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The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion)
expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. |
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Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). Â*It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked.Â* Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. No. |
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FMurtz wrote:
Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. No. Okay, didn't think so. |
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No not really. I recall trying this for some trim in a shed and it was like
screwing into candy floss, unless they have made a better foam by now! Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Dan S. MacAbre" wrote in message news ![]() The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. |
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Jim K wrote:
"Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. Not really no. They will certainly go in and take a screw, but id expect minimal resistance to coming back out again under any sort of provocation. Can you use an adhesive (& weighty items to hold in place as necessary) & glue the skirting boards on? In the past, I have done; but from now on, I decided I'd do it so that I can more easily remove them. In case I need to replace bits of floor, or get into the void, etc. |
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"Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message:
The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. Not really no. They will certainly go in and take a screw, but id expect minimal resistance to coming back out again under any sort of provocation. Can you use an adhesive (& weighty items to hold in place as necessary) & glue the skirting boards on? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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No problem. I'll go all the way through it.
Brian Gaff wrote: No not really. I recall trying this for some trim in a shed and it was like screwing into candy floss, unless they have made a better foam by now! Brian |
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On Friday, 6 April 2018 15:48:52 UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. |
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On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 6 April 2018 15:48:52 UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? |
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 6 April 2018 15:48:52 UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. Profuse apologies, then. But we have a boxful from when our lad was small. It's a good way of doing something useful with them, I think. And I'm not going to leave them lying around the countryside when I've finished :-) |
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On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). Â*It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked.Â* Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these thin Is this on a brick wall? Can you not rake out some mortar from the vertical lines and hammer in wooden wedges to screw to? SteveW |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2018 17:01:54 +0100, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
whisky-dave wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 15:48:52 UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. Profuse apologies, then. But we have a boxful from when our lad was small. It's a good way of doing something useful with them, I think. And I'm not going to leave them lying around the countryside when I've finished :-) I had to pass the wires from the door release round the door frame, under the plaster. Used a plastic drinking straw as micro-trunking. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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Steve Walker wrote:
On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these thin Is this on a brick wall? Can you not rake out some mortar from the vertical lines and hammer in wooden wedges to screw to? SteveW Breeze block. There is about an inch of plaster on it, with the usual gap at the bottom. |
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On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). Â*It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked.Â* Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. I swear by an old bag of polyfilla or better still Wickes fine surface filler. It sets rock hard in about a minute, so excellent for those oversized holes that wont hold the rawlplug in place. Unlike old gypsum plaster, the Wickes variety can still be shaped or scraped flat after its initial set but before it is dry. Also sandable. |
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On 07/04/2018 19:08, Andrew wrote:
On 06/04/2018 16:54, wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-daveÂ* wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 15:48:52 UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbreÂ* wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). Â*Â* It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked.Â* Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. Plastic drinking straws !Â* I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-plastic.html |
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Andrew wrote:
On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these things. I swear by an old bag of polyfilla or better still Wickes fine surface filler. It sets rock hard in about a minute, so excellent for those oversized holes that wont hold the rawlplug in place. Unlike old gypsum plaster, the Wickes variety can still be shaped or scraped flat after its initial set but before it is dry. Also sandable. I'll try it next time I need to buy something like that. I need something that dries more quickly than what I usually have lying around. |
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On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. I shall add drinking straws to the list. NT |
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On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, AndrewÂ* wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-daveÂ* wrote: Plastic drinking straws !Â* I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. I shall add drinking straws to the list. NT |
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On 08/04/2018 10:50, Richard wrote:
On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, AndrewÂ* wrote: If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. Well quite. At the end of the last ice age the world population was ~ 5 million. Mind you, they were all pretty poor. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? I shall add drinking straws to the list. NT -- Roger Hayter |
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Richard wrote:
On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. AFAIK, we have had limited or no success with the supernatural. What's "natural" in the context? I shall add drinking straws to the list. NT -- Roger Hayter |
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In article ,
Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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"Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message:
Steve Walker wrote: On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these thin Is this on a brick wall? Can you not rake out some mortar from the vertical lines and hammer in wooden wedges to screw to? SteveW Breeze block. There is about an inch of plaster on it, with the usual gap at the bottom. Longer screws? Or if you must, glue some 1" thick blocks of wood to the breeze blocks, then screw into them? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 08/04/18 13:16, newshound wrote:
On 08/04/2018 10:50, Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, AndrewÂ* wrote: If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. Well quite. At the end of the last ice age the world population was ~ 5 million. Mind you, they were all pretty poor. Which kinda removes the poverty tag. |
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On 08/04/18 14:03, Roger Hayter wrote:
Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. AFAIK, we have had limited or no success with the supernatural. What's "natural" in the context? None of this new fangled life saving stuff like medicine and agriculture. |
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On Sunday, 8 April 2018 13:16:08 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
On 08/04/2018 10:50, Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, tabbypurr wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, AndrewÂ* wrote: If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. Well quite. At the end of the last ice age the world population was ~ 5 million. Mind you, they were all pretty poor. exactly, 5 million in poverty the rest would be dead. |
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Jim K wrote:
"Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message: Steve Walker wrote: On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these thin Is this on a brick wall? Can you not rake out some mortar from the vertical lines and hammer in wooden wedges to screw to? SteveW Breeze block. There is about an inch of plaster on it, with the usual gap at the bottom. Longer screws? Or if you must, glue some 1" thick blocks of wood to the breeze blocks, then screw into them? ATM, I think it's going to be longer screws. |
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"Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote: "Dan S. MacAbre" Wrote in message: Steve Walker wrote: On 06/04/2018 15:48, Dan S. MacAbre wrote: The answer is most likely no, but I was wondering if (minimal expansion) expanding foam will take rawlplugs (my own generic name for the things). It's only for holding skirting boards to the wall, so not really a tough job. I also discovered that drinking straws can be used as a nozzle for this stuff when your old one is solidly blocked. Although I know that there is more than one diameter for these thin Is this on a brick wall? Can you not rake out some mortar from the vertical lines and hammer in wooden wedges to screw to? SteveW Breeze block. There is about an inch of plaster on it, with the usual gap at the bottom. Longer screws? Or if you must, glue some 1" thick blocks of wood to the breeze blocks, then screw into them? ATM, I think it's going to be longer screws. Has been the correct answer all along. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Richard wrote:
On 08/04/18 14:03, Roger Hayter wrote: Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. AFAIK, we have had limited or no success with the supernatural. What's "natural" in the context? None of this new fangled life saving stuff like medicine and agriculture. I was involved in one of those trades, and absolutely everything we did was perfectly natural. -- Roger Hayter |
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charles wrote:
In article , Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? Re-usable straws. So only those who really need them will bother. People with wired jaws, for instance. -- Roger Hayter |
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wrote: charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? Re-usable straws. So only those who really need them will bother. People with wired jaws, for instance. and small children -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 08/04/18 22:48, Roger Hayter wrote:
Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 14:03, Roger Hayter wrote: Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. AFAIK, we have had limited or no success with the supernatural. What's "natural" in the context? None of this new fangled life saving stuff like medicine and agriculture. I was involved in one of those trades, and absolutely everything we did was perfectly natural. Oh. So you lived in a cave/outside? No machinery was involved in the production or transportation? |
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charles wrote:
In article , Roger Hayter wrote: charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? Re-usable straws. So only those who really need them will bother. People with wired jaws, for instance. and small children Largely superseded by cups with spouts for those who really need them. -- Roger Hayter |
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Richard wrote:
On 08/04/18 22:48, Roger Hayter wrote: Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 14:03, Roger Hayter wrote: Richard wrote: On 08/04/18 10:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. The planet has no problems. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does.. Only Man is capable of Sin. If people lived the *natural* way there would not be the quoted billion people in poverty. AFAIK, we have had limited or no success with the supernatural. What's "natural" in the context? None of this new fangled life saving stuff like medicine and agriculture. I was involved in one of those trades, and absolutely everything we did was perfectly natural. Oh. So you lived in a cave/outside? No machinery was involved in the production or transportation? Only normal machinery obeying physical laws; no supernatural machinery. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 09/04/18 10:31, Roger Hayter wrote:
charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? Re-usable straws. So only those who really need them will bother. People with wired jaws, for instance. and small children Largely superseded by cups with spouts for those who really need them. Or bottles with nipples -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx. |
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In article , Roger Hayter
wrote: charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: charles wrote: In article , Roger Hayter wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 08/04/18 03:36, wrote: On Saturday, 7 April 2018 19:08:14 UTC+1, Andrew wrote: On 06/04/2018 16:54, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2018 16:20:03 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote: Plastic drinking straws ! I've just signed a petition against plastic drinking straws. How high do you think they are on the list of the planet's biggest problems? Judging by the way they wash up beaches and are ingested by marine life, I think they belong in the top 10, along with all forms of plastic waste (teabags, coffee cups, sandwich cartons, cook-chill food trays). Ah. I thought the planet's top 10 problems contained things like a billion people in poverty, huge numbers of deaths from diseases, stuff like that. But thats all *natural* stuff like wot God does. Only Man is capable of Sin. Giving the environmentalists full credit for honesty and good judgment, I wonder if it is justified to do away with plastic straws because it is relatively cheap and simple to do? and what do you do then? use plastic coated paper? or real straw? Re-usable straws. So only those who really need them will bother. People with wired jaws, for instance. and small children Largely superseded by cups with spouts for those who really need them. which are all made of plastic ! -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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