https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 08/05/17 17:20, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

They all react to moisture. Accelerant is used when they dont react very
fast.

I've had CA smoke when applied to the correct surfaces. Ore refuse to
set for ages when applied to others.


Apparently dripping it onto cotton wool starts a fire.


--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ate-Accelerato
r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would
you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound shop
which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which squirts
everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

--
The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity.

pamela wrote:
On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ate-Accelerato
r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would
you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound shop
which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which squirts
everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I bought a pack of three little bottles from the pound shop a couple of
years ago, it has been excellent.
The stuff in the tubes is horrible.

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:42:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/05/17 17:20, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

They all react to moisture. Accelerant is used when they dont react very
fast.

I've had CA smoke when applied to the correct surfaces. Ore refuse to
set for ages when applied to others.

Yes I've had smoke from plastics.

Apparently dripping it onto cotton wool starts a fire.

Yes:
https://youtu.be/fYFGTs6vQFU

I've also seen cotton wool lit with a match and burning violently after being soaked in liquid oxygen (ok a very long match):
https://youtu.be/k46SBv8EiS8

I'd love to see cyanoacrylate and oxygen at the same time :-)

Looks like every other combination has already been tried, here's lithium and liquid oxygen:
https://youtu.be/Mtb87I3xKUU

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On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:20:59 +0100, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

I can't find the one that requires an activator (the activator says it's for normal superglue). One which waits for the activator would be useful - do you have a link?

--
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has
is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough
criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime
that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
(Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:20:59 +0100, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

I can't find the one that requires an activator (the activator says it's for normal superglue). One which waits for the activator would be useful - do you have a link?

First place I saw it used was in fitting double glazing.
CA could be painted on to great long lengths of plastic
trim (that took noticable time to paint it all on),
and the activator sprayed on the matching surface. It
then sets when you push the two together, and ISTR
excess activator could be wiped off where it was
oversprayed without damaging the PVC surface.

Here's the first one on a google search:
http://www.windowrepairshop.co.uk/Mi...-Kit-Superglue

I don't know what happens if you don't use the activator.
Maybe it takes much longer to set, or maybe it doesn't
set.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:35:11 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:53 8 May 2017, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela
wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ylate-Accelera
to r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth
would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound
shop which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which
squirts everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same
in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

You can get slow setting superglue.

I thought the whole idea of superglue was it's speed. Otherwise you use contact adhesive or araldite.

--
I just sent my lawyer something for his birthday. Unfortunately, he wasn't home when it went off.

On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:42:20 +0100, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:20:59 +0100, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

I can't find the one that requires an activator (the activator says it's for normal superglue). One which waits for the activator would be useful - do you have a link?

First place I saw it used was in fitting double glazing.
CA could be painted on to great long lengths of plastic
trim (that took noticable time to paint it all on),
and the activator sprayed on the matching surface. It
then sets when you push the two together, and ISTR
excess activator could be wiped off where it was
oversprayed without damaging the PVC surface.

Here's the first one on a google search:
http://www.windowrepairshop.co.uk/Mi...-Kit-Superglue

I don't know what happens if you don't use the activator.
Maybe it takes much longer to set, or maybe it doesn't
set.

That sounds extremely useful, I'll have to buy some. Sticking when you want it to, not before you've positioned it, or after 10 minutes of holding it together while trying to ignore an itch.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ate-Accelerato
r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would
you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound shop
which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which squirts
everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same in every
bottle?

Nope, that name is a class of adhesives, just like epoxy is too.

Is it watered down with something else?

Nope.

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
news
pamela wrote:
On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ate-Accelerato
r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would
you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound shop
which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which squirts
everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I bought a pack of three little bottles from the pound shop a couple of
years ago, it has been excellent.
The stuff in the tubes is horrible.

And he should know, with all those butterflys to glue to the fence.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:35:11 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:53 8 May 2017, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela
wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ylate-Accelera
to r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth
would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound
shop which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which
squirts everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same
in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

You can get slow setting superglue.

I thought the whole idea of superglue was it's speed.

That's just one of the idea of superglue.

Otherwise you use contact adhesive or araldite.

Doesn't work when gluing wounds.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 00:16:13 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:35:11 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:53 8 May 2017, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela
wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ylate-Accelera
to r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth
would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound
shop which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which
squirts everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same
in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

You can get slow setting superglue.

I thought the whole idea of superglue was it's speed.

That's just one of the idea of superglue.

Otherwise you use contact adhesive or araldite.

Doesn't work when gluing wounds.

Wounds are stuck together with superglue?

Yep.

WTF?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate#Medical

Yes there used to be a great explanation of this available from Loctite.
Brian

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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
news
In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the
workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate
it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture actually),
and the other requires an activator to set.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes



Wounds are stuck together with superglue? WTF?

It's an essential part of military first aid kit.
http://bit.ly/2pqVo6Q
http://bit.ly/2pqvAYy


--
Ian

Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
pamela wrote:
On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ate-Accelerato
r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would
you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound shop
which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which squirts
everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I bought a pack of three little bottles from the pound shop a couple of
years ago, it has been excellent.
The stuff in the tubes is horrible.



I use it for the finish when making these.

http://imgur.com/a/8g9Pl

On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

On Tue, 09 May 2017 04:18:59 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 00:16:13 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:35:11 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:53 8 May 2017, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela
wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ylate-Accelera
to r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth
would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound
shop which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which
squirts everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same
in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

You can get slow setting superglue.

I thought the whole idea of superglue was it's speed.

That's just one of the idea of superglue.

Otherwise you use contact adhesive or araldite.

Doesn't work when gluing wounds.

Wounds are stuck together with superglue?

Yep.

WTF?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate#Medical

Oh. I thought it was bad for you to get it on your skin. So "bad for you" just means you might stick your fingers together.

--
Setting a good example for your children takes all the fun out of middle age.

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

--
Ian

On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

--
A hand job a day keeps arthritis away.

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 04:18:59 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 00:16:13 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Mon, 08 May 2017 21:35:11 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 17:53 8 May 2017, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2017 17:43:27 +0100, pamela
wrote:

On 17:20 8 May 2017, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"James Wilkinson Sword" writes:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...ylate-Accelera
to r-Superglue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before
you've got the workpieces together straight, why on earth
would you need to accelerate it?

There are two types. One sets on exposure to air (moisture
actually), and the other requires an activator to set.


There's also the rubbishy superglue I have had from the pound
shop which doesn't set even if left for hours.

(Not to be confused with the watery variant they sell which
squirts everywhere when opened and sets immediately.)

I thought cyanoacrylate was a chemical which would be the same
in every bottle? Is it watered down with something else?

You can get slow setting superglue.

I thought the whole idea of superglue was it's speed.

That's just one of the idea of superglue.

Otherwise you use contact adhesive or araldite.

Doesn't work when gluing wounds.

Wounds are stuck together with superglue?

Yep.

WTF?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate#Medical

Oh. I thought it was bad for you to get it on your skin. So "bad for
you" just means you might stick your fingers together.

I once told the doctor about my finger-tip problem (see elsewhere in
this thread) and asked if superglue was harmful - and whether the
medical type was different. She didn't really know - but thought it was
probably all the same.
--
Ian

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.


--
Ian

On Tue, 09 May 2017 11:47:27 +0100, Huge wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes

Wounds are stuck together with superglue? WTF?

Not been to A&E recently?

Only for broken bones (about 1988, 1995, and 2002) and stitches to my head (twice in the 80s). No glue was used. I'm sure superglue was around at least as far back as 1980.

--
Legalise drugs now and stop the crime
http://www.legalisedrugs.co.uk/

On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:32:23 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.

I'm surprised the glue goes any deeper than the moisturiser.

--
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Mike wrote:
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...tor/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've
got the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Pity it wasn't around 50 or so years ago when I was flying single channel.

In article , James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2017 11:47:27 +0100, Huge
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes

Wounds are stuck together with superglue? WTF?

Not been to A&E recently?

Only for broken bones (about 1988, 1995, and 2002) and stitches to my
head (twice in the 80s). No glue was used. I'm sure superglue was
around at least as far back as 1980.

It was developed to help with casualties in the VietNam war.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On Tue, 09 May 2017 17:15:46 +0100, charles wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2017 11:47:27 +0100, Huge
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
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Wounds are stuck together with superglue? WTF?

Not been to A&E recently?

Only for broken bones (about 1988, 1995, and 2002) and stitches to my
head (twice in the 80s). No glue was used. I'm sure superglue was
around at least as far back as 1980.

It was developed to help with casualties in the VietNam war.

Quicker?

--
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shagger to save just one Scottish soldiers life, then I have only three things to say: Red is positive, Black is
negative, and make sure his nuts are wet" -- Jimmy MacDonald, Glasgow City Councillor

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
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On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:32:23 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.

I'm surprised the glue goes any deeper than the moisturiser.

It doesn't. It 'locks' the two sides of the fissure by forming a scab,
and this prevents the split from constantly being renewed and failing to
heal (and this stops the pain).
--
Ian

On Tue, 09 May 2017 17:40:25 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:32:23 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.

I'm surprised the glue goes any deeper than the moisturiser.

It doesn't. It 'locks' the two sides of the fissure by forming a scab,
and this prevents the split from constantly being renewed and failing to
heal (and this stops the pain).

I see. I thought moisturiser was meant to soften the skin so it wouldn't keep splitting though. I guess it depends how dry your skin is.

--
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird, people take prozac to make it normal.

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 17:40:25 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:32:23 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.

I'm surprised the glue goes any deeper than the moisturiser.

It doesn't. It 'locks' the two sides of the fissure by forming a scab,
and this prevents the split from constantly being renewed and failing to
heal (and this stops the pain).

I see. I thought moisturiser was meant to soften the skin so it
wouldn't keep splitting though. I guess it depends how dry your skin
is.

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.
Moisturiser does help, but it would really need to penetrate one or two
mm to really be effective.

Also, if you're a busy DIY sort of person, it's not very convenient to
be constantly larding your hands with moisturiser cream.


--
Ian

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 17:40:25 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:32:23 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 16:13:07 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Mike
writes
On Mon, 08 May 2017 16:43:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Grocery/B...elerator-Super
glue-activator/B005H0X8OS

In my experience, superglue sets instantly, usually before you've got
the workpieces together straight, why on earth would you need to
accelerate it?

In aeromodelling, superglue is used on all sorts of materials and
there are many different types available: thick, thin, medium, low
vapour, for foam. There are also accellerators and these can be very
useful when the material has little or no moisture in it or when you
are holding the parts together wating for the glue to grab.
- Mike

Between the ages of 10 and 15, I used to be a keen aeromodeller.
Unfortunately, in those days superglue was still many years from being
invented. It would have been a godsend for doing instant between-flight
repairs.

For many years, I have suffered from the tips of my fingers
spontaneously developing cracks and fissures - and these are
surprisingly agonising despite appearing to be absolutely insignificant.
I use superglue to immobilise the tissue and to create an artificial
scab (steam from the spout of a boiling kettle helps it to go off
rapidly!). After the glue has hardened, the pain relief is immediate.

Does moisturiser not help?

Yes - but not a lot. The fissures actually seem to start deep under the
skin, and work their way to the surface. Then it hurts!

Unfortunately, my fingertip problem precludes any possibility of me ever
being able to play a guitar like Mark Knopfler.

I'm surprised the glue goes any deeper than the moisturiser.

It doesn't. It 'locks' the two sides of the fissure by forming a scab,
and this prevents the split from constantly being renewed and failing to
heal (and this stops the pain).

I see. I thought moisturiser was meant to soften the skin so it
wouldn't keep splitting though. I guess it depends how dry your skin
is.

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.
Moisturiser does help, but it would really need to penetrate one or two
mm to really be effective.

So the glue is kinda forming a protective layer to prevent pain when you touch things? And it then heals underneath aswell?

Also, if you're a busy DIY sort of person, it's not very convenient to
be constantly larding your hands with moisturiser cream.

I had a colleague with very dry cracked hands, he'd use cream a few times a day. Might not have been the same condition of course - it wasn't his fingertips but his whole hands. I think he called it xma or something.

--
Can you be a closet claustrophobic?

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 17:15:46 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2017 11:47:27 +0100, Huge
wrote:

In message , James Wilkinson Sword
writes

Wounds are stuck together with superglue? WTF?

Not been to A&E recently?

Only for broken bones (about 1988, 1995, and 2002) and stitches to my
head (twice in the 80s). No glue was used. I'm sure superglue was
around at least as far back as 1980.

It was developed to help with casualties in the VietNam war.

Quicker?

And better. The wound is held together over the entire length,
not just in isolated places like with stitches or clips.

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

--
TOJ.

In message , The Other John
writes
On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

No. Simvastatin and Levothyroxine.
--
Ian

On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:09:50 +0100, The Other John wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

I've used those, they did precisely nothing, much like most medications.

--
Mike Hallett discussing missed snooker shots on Sky Sports: "Stephen Hendry jumps on Steve Davis's misses every chance he gets."

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:09:50 +0100, The Other John
wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

I've used those, they did precisely nothing, much like most medications.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:09:50 +0100, The Other John
wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

I've used those, they did precisely nothing, much like most medications.

How do you expect medication to affect a dumbarse?

On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:41:48 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:09:50 +0100, The Other John
wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

I've used those, they did precisely nothing, much like most medications.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

It's a fact, dispute it all you like.

--
Life is a sexually transmitted terminal condition.

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:41:48 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 09 May 2017 23:09:50 +0100, The Other John
wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2017 19:21:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

As I said, the split starts deep down, and progresses to the surface.

JOOI are you on beta blockers? They did this to me. As soon as I came
off them it stopped happening.

I've used those, they did precisely nothing, much like most medications.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

It's a fact,

Like hell it is with beta blockers, statins etc etc etc.