On Friday, 13 January 2017 17:59:49 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:37:10 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 13/01/2017 15:36, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 13:41:00 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:15:28 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:06:01 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:05:47 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:52:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:34:40 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

So we had 2-3 inches of snow today. Why on earth do people
spend
an hour clearing their drive, just to make it take 5 seconds
instead of 10 to get the car out?

So they can dump their snow on your drive and presumably make
you
happy?

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I was asking a simple question. Do you clear yours? If so why?

If we have snow yes.
Because we are house proud and do not live in a ******** as you do.

What benefit is having the snow cleared?

It means you can walk on that part without having to drudge it
through into the house and might even stop yourself from slipping.

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

It could be especailly important if you have kids walking that path
or elderly people or just those not very good on their feet.

They would have a problem once they left the drive anyway.

But that would be their problem same if they went skiiing their
problem not mine.

Blame society bull****.

Or if you're expecting a fragile delivery.

Couriers are used to it.

Yeah sure.
mountineers are used to it but some don;t make it back alive, so being
used to it is irrelivant from an accident point of view.

Hardly the same difficulty level.

Or you might know yuo don;t want to clear the snow AFTER coming
back from the pub.

You won't care then.

I will if it puts me in hospital, but then again some of us have
enough sense to predict what can happen in the future.

Falling over in soft snow is not life threatening.

maybe that's why I've not taken up hang gliding or any other dangerous
sport.

Wimp.

As I said, it was 2-3 inches here!

Is that with or without viagra

Viagra doesn't change the length.

That sounds like the voice of experience.

Everybody knows what Viagra is for. I have the average (real average, not the crap that gets posted on internet pages nowadays) of 7 inches, like Mr Mason, and it goes up when required without difficulty.

I'm so pleased you and mr Mason can compare such things it must make you very satisfied.

Anyway according to the internet gay men like lengh while women want girth.

You'd have to aks wodeny about sheep.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then
freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.



We has a similar siruation here where there was a cut through
walkway and an old lady tripped over a raised paving slab the
college was balamed as it didn;t maintain the pavement,

How stupid. There's plenty things to trip on around here, but
people look where they're going.

She was quite old 70+ with a stick from what I heard at the time but
the college wanted iot kept quite for some reason the women was in
hospital for a few days she hit her head/face on the concrete.

That's called an ACCIDENT.

Waiting to happen they;d ignored reports of the unlevel surface.


but the college said this was not a right of way and the genral
public shouldn;t be walking there. So that shows you how much it
cares about staff and studetns , so they put a no access notice in
the area.

If the old lady wasn't a student, the college were correct.

So should have blocked it off then but they didn't.

No. They shouldn't have to tell people not to walk across their land.

There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.


It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a
notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to
be treated like children.

The why worry about car speeds or even keeping your car in good repair
tough luck if you crash, yeah like that makes sense. You have to have
reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise, I;d say tough
**** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car, don't drive
on pot holes it's really simple.

Without streetlights on a wet road, they can be impossible to see.

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from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 16/01/2017 12:28, whisky-dave wrote:

Everybody knows what Viagra is for.

Its a heart drug.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:28:26 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 17:59:49 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:37:10 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 13/01/2017 15:36, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 13:41:00 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:15:28 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:06:01 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:05:47 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:52:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Graham. wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:34:40 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

So we had 2-3 inches of snow today. Why on earth do people
spend
an hour clearing their drive, just to make it take 5 seconds
instead of 10 to get the car out?

So they can dump their snow on your drive and presumably make
you
happy?

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I was asking a simple question. Do you clear yours? If so why?

If we have snow yes.
Because we are house proud and do not live in a ******** as you do.

What benefit is having the snow cleared?

It means you can walk on that part without having to drudge it
through into the house and might even stop yourself from slipping.

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

It could be especailly important if you have kids walking that path
or elderly people or just those not very good on their feet.

They would have a problem once they left the drive anyway.

But that would be their problem same if they went skiiing their
problem not mine.

Blame society bull****.

Or if you're expecting a fragile delivery.

Couriers are used to it.

Yeah sure.
mountineers are used to it but some don;t make it back alive, so being
used to it is irrelivant from an accident point of view.

Hardly the same difficulty level.

Or you might know yuo don;t want to clear the snow AFTER coming
back from the pub.

You won't care then.

I will if it puts me in hospital, but then again some of us have
enough sense to predict what can happen in the future.

Falling over in soft snow is not life threatening.

maybe that's why I've not taken up hang gliding or any other dangerous
sport.

Wimp.

As I said, it was 2-3 inches here!

Is that with or without viagra

Viagra doesn't change the length.

That sounds like the voice of experience.

Everybody knows what Viagra is for. I have the average (real average, not the crap that gets posted on internet pages nowadays) of 7 inches, like Mr Mason, and it goes up when required without difficulty.

I'm so pleased you and mr Mason can compare such things it must make you very satisfied.

Anyway according to the internet gay men like lengh while women want girth.

You'd have to aks wodeny about sheep.

Never heard a woman say anything but "I like big ones". 8" interests most women.

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On Monday, 16 January 2017 15:22:57 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Never heard a woman say anything but "I like big ones". 8" interests most women.

Mine is only 7.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/condom.wma

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:36:28 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:


But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

That clears the snow.

And then freezes and is much more slippery than the snow was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon

Didn't you mean silicone?

It's either:

silicon
ˈsɪlɪk(ə)n/Submit
noun
the chemical element of atomic number 14, a non-metal with
semiconducting properties, used in making electronic circuits. Pure
silicon exists in a shiny dark grey crystalline form and as an amorphous
powder.


Silicon - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
Silicon is a chemical element with symbol Si and atomic number 14. A
hard and brittle crystalline solid with a blue-gray metallic luster, it
is a tetravalent metalloid.
€ŽSilicone · €ŽAbundance of the chemical ... · €ŽSilicon Valley ·
€ŽCzochralski process

Ah!! just double checked and Peter is correct:

Image result for silicon vs silicone
In short, silicon is a naturally occurring chemical element, whereas
silicone is a synthetic substance. Silicon is the 14th element on the
periodic table. It's a metalloid, meaning it has properties of both
metals and nonmetals, and is the second most abundant element in the
Earth's crust, after oxygen.20 Jun 2013
Silicon or Silicone: What's the Difference? - Live Science
http://www.livescience.com/37598-sil...-implants.html

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:51:55 -0000, Bod wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon

Didn't you mean silicone?

It's either:

silicon
ˈsɪlɪk(ə)n/Submit
noun
the chemical element of atomic number 14, a non-metal with
semiconducting properties, used in making electronic circuits. Pure
silicon exists in a shiny dark grey crystalline form and as an amorphous
powder.


Silicon - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
Silicon is a chemical element with symbol Si and atomic number 14. A
hard and brittle crystalline solid with a blue-gray metallic luster, it
is a tetravalent metalloid.
€ŽSilicone · €ŽAbundance of the chemical ... · €ŽSilicon Valley ·
€ŽCzochralski process

Ah!! just double checked and Peter is correct:

Image result for silicon vs silicone
In short, silicon is a naturally occurring chemical element, whereas
silicone is a synthetic substance. Silicon is the 14th element on the
periodic table. It's a metalloid, meaning it has properties of both
metals and nonmetals, and is the second most abundant element in the
Earth's crust, after oxygen.20 Jun 2013
Silicon or Silicone: What's the Difference? - Live Science
http://www.livescience.com/37598-sil...-implants.html

I thought everyone knew what silicone was. It's used for all sorts nowadays. One you should be familiar with is the sealant you get in tubes to go round baths etc.

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Silicon - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
Silicon is a chemical element with symbol Si and atomic number 14. A
hard and brittle crystalline solid with a blue-gray metallic luster, it
is a tetravalent metalloid.
€ŽSilicone · €ŽAbundance of the chemical ... · €ŽSilicon Valley ·
€ŽCzochralski process

Ah!! just double checked and Peter is correct:

Image result for silicon vs silicone
In short, silicon is a naturally occurring chemical element, whereas
silicone is a synthetic substance. Silicon is the 14th element on the
periodic table. It's a metalloid, meaning it has properties of both
metals and nonmetals, and is the second most abundant element in the
Earth's crust, after oxygen.20 Jun 2013
Silicon or Silicone: What's the Difference? - Live Science
http://www.livescience.com/37598-sil...-implants.html

I thought everyone knew what silicone was. It's used for all sorts
nowadays. One you should be familiar with is the sealant you get in
tubes to go round baths etc.

It was the spelling that I got confused with, that's all.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:11:04 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:53:07 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then
freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

you can get that on pavements, too. I managed to avoid some this morning by
walking on the road.

I do that too sometimes especailly as they grit the road but not the pavements.
be interesting to see what they do with teh cycle highways.

They will be gritted at the cost of road tax paid by car drivers.

We has a similar siruation here where there was a cut through walkway
and an old lady tripped over a raised paving slab the college was
balamed as it didn;t maintain the pavement,

How stupid. There's plenty things to trip on around here, but people
look where they're going.

She was quite old 70+ with a stick from what I heard at the time but the
college wanted iot kept quite for some reason the women was in hospital
for a few days she hit her head/face on the concrete.

70+ is NOT quite old. It's being suiggested that you shouldn't be calle
old until you are 75 - I'm still old.

Some used the pension age to decide whether someone was old or not.
As in old age pension in that yuo have to be old to get it.
Not very PC I know.

I go by wrinkles and stooped posture.

but the college said this was not a right of way and the genral
public shouldn;t be walking there. So that shows you how much it
cares about staff and studetns , so they put a no access notice in
the area.

If the old lady wasn't a student, the college were correct.

You even have to worry about the health and safety of criminals on your
property.

To some extent yes.

The only worry about criminals on my property is if I can render them dead/unconscious/on fire.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

We has a similar siruation here where there was a cut through walkway and an old lady tripped over a raised paving slab the college was balamed as it didn;t maintain the pavement,

How stupid. There's plenty things to trip on around here, but people look where they're going.

She was quite old 70+ with a stick from what I heard at the time but the college wanted iot kept quite for some reason the women was in hospital for a few days she hit her head/face on the concrete.

That's called an ACCIDENT.

Waiting to happen they;d ignored reports of the unlevel surface.

No, she ****ed up and tried to blame others. It's called "blame society bull****", America is famous for it.

but the college said this was not a right of way and the genral public shouldn;t be walking there. So that shows you how much it cares about staff and studetns , so they put a no access notice in the area.

If the old lady wasn't a student, the college were correct.

So should have blocked it off then but they didn't.

No. They shouldn't have to tell people not to walk across their land.

There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.
The why worry about car speeds or even keeping your car in good repair tough luck if you crash, yeah like that makes sense.

Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished. Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

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Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my lunch, and slipped quietly into the garage. I hooked up the boat up to the van, and proceeded to back out into a torrential downpour. The wind was blowing 50 mph, so I pulled back into the garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather would be bad all day. I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back into bed.. I cuddled up to my wife's back, now with a different anticipation, and whispered, "The weather out there is terrible."
My loving wife of 5 years replied, "And can you believe my stupid husband is out fishing in that?"
And that's how the fight started...

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:32:38 -0000, charles wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:

It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a
notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to
be treated like children.

The why worry about car speeds or even keeping your car in good repair
tough luck if you crash, yeah like that makes sense. You have to have
reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise, I;d say tough
**** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car, don't drive
on pot holes it's really simple.

Without streetlights on a wet road, they can be impossible to see.

See the big white things on the front of your car? Switch them on at night.

--
Mistress: Something between a mister and a mattress.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:00:04 -0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 16/01/2017 12:28, whisky-dave wrote:

Everybody knows what Viagra is for.

Its a heart drug.

That's not where my heart is.

--
After pleading no contest to burglarizing Britney Spears's home, four men received three years of probation.
All they had to do was sign an agreement not to reveal what they stole from the house or how many batteries it took.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:54:50 -0000, Huge wrote:

On 2017-01-16, whisky-dave wrote:

[130 lines snipped]

Maybe they just think they do, just like most men like big tits
but few like ballon silicon implants, most pretent they do otherwise your
thought of as gay.

Dave, could you consider snipping the quoted text, please?

Huge, could you consider buying a wheelmouse please? It clearly isn't bothering Dave or whoever he was talking to.

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10 times as many people are killed by coconuts falling on their heads as are eaten by sharks.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:13:28 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

On Monday, 16 January 2017 15:22:57 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Never heard a woman say anything but "I like big ones". 8" interests most women.

Mine is only 7.

I can't imagine what having only 5 or 6 inches is like.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/condom.wma

What is this?

--
Police cordoned off Liverpool City Centre this morning when a suspicious object was discovered in a car.
It later turned out to be a tax disc.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:11:59 -0000, Bod wrote:


Silicon - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
Silicon is a chemical element with symbol Si and atomic number 14. A
hard and brittle crystalline solid with a blue-gray metallic luster, it
is a tetravalent metalloid.
€ŽSilicone · €ŽAbundance of the chemical ... · €ŽSilicon Valley ·
€ŽCzochralski process

Ah!! just double checked and Peter is correct:

Image result for silicon vs silicone
In short, silicon is a naturally occurring chemical element, whereas
silicone is a synthetic substance. Silicon is the 14th element on the
periodic table. It's a metalloid, meaning it has properties of both
metals and nonmetals, and is the second most abundant element in the
Earth's crust, after oxygen.20 Jun 2013
Silicon or Silicone: What's the Difference? - Live Science
http://www.livescience.com/37598-sil...-implants.html

I thought everyone knew what silicone was. It's used for all sorts
nowadays. One you should be familiar with is the sealant you get in
tubes to go round baths etc.

It was the spelling that I got confused with, that's all.

Because you'
a) Old.
b) Stoned.
c) Drunk.
d) Stupid.

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On Monday, 16 January 2017 17:43:45 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:36:28 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave
wrote:


But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is. Unless of course you're saying that when roads are cleared of snow they aren't cleared 'properly' you have to define 'properly' don't you.

But why would you understand that anyway ?

The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK, you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes again.
You could add salt to the water and that should be OK unless the temp drops below -8C or so when it might start freezing again.







Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.


That clears the snow.

And then freezes and is much more slippery than the snow was.

that depends on time and temeprature as I've already said.

Of course a lot of people have clear driveways during the summer months how does that happen ?

On Monday, 16 January 2017 22:25:39 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

and rain and snow and even hot weather.


And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

Why not, what is so specail about black ice ?


We has a similar siruation here where there was a cut through walkway and an old lady tripped over a raised paving slab the college was balamed as it didn;t maintain the pavement,

How stupid. There's plenty things to trip on around here, but people look where they're going.

She was quite old 70+ with a stick from what I heard at the time but the college wanted iot kept quite for some reason the women was in hospital for a few days she hit her head/face on the concrete.

That's called an ACCIDENT.

Waiting to happen they;d ignored reports of the unlevel surface.

No, she ****ed up and tried to blame others. It's called "blame society bull****", America is famous for it.

No there was a legal requirement to have pavements level.
Which is why they put a notice up after it happened rather than before.
Just like they do even in supermarkets with wet floor signs.
Those signs don't prevent slipping they are there to warn you.



There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

Because it's not a public right of way as it previously was and using it would be at your own risk.


It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.

Lots of people are children.

The why worry about car speeds or even keeping your car in good repair tough luck if you crash, yeah like that makes sense.

Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished.

Why.

Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

What an idiot.
That means that a car can be used as a weapon and if you get killed it's your fauly, what an idiot.


You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

Even the blind or at night without lights.
What about sink holes.

Have you ever driven over a pothole

whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still icy.

The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing that.

Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

That clears the snow.

And then freezes and is much more slippery than the snow was.

On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:15:38 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 16 January 2017 22:25:39 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

and rain and snow and even hot weather.

We are treated like children. It has to stop.

And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

Why not, what is so specail about black ice ?

It's the low speed that stops you destroying your house.

We has a similar siruation here where there was a cut through walkway and an old lady tripped over a raised paving slab the college was balamed as it didn;t maintain the pavement,

How stupid. There's plenty things to trip on around here, but people look where they're going.

She was quite old 70+ with a stick from what I heard at the time but the college wanted iot kept quite for some reason the women was in hospital for a few days she hit her head/face on the concrete.

That's called an ACCIDENT.

Waiting to happen they;d ignored reports of the unlevel surface.

No, she ****ed up and tried to blame others. It's called "blame society bull****", America is famous for it.

No there was a legal requirement to have pavements level.
Which is why they put a notice up after it happened rather than before.
Just like they do even in supermarkets with wet floor signs.
Those signs don't prevent slipping they are there to warn you.

If a pavement isn't level, notice it yourself, stop expecting others to wrap you in cotton wool, it's pathetic.

There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

Because it's not a public right of way as it previously was and using it would be at your own risk.

Using anything is at your own risk, you CHOSE to use that path.

It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.

Lots of people are children.

Then why does the law apply to adults?

Anyway if the children are so ****ing stupid they can't avoid tripping over something, maybe their parents should keep them on a lead?

The why worry about car speeds or even keeping your car in good repair tough luck if you crash, yeah like that makes sense.

Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished.

Why.

Because the safety of your own car is up to you, and nobody else.

Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

What an idiot.
That means that a car can be used as a weapon and if you get killed it's your fauly, what an idiot.

Nobody would destroy their own car on purpose.

You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

Even the blind or at night without lights.

Get a dog or a friend.

What about sink holes.

What?

Have you ever driven over a pothole

No, I go round them.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:03:48 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:36:28 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's easier to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it. Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it. That clears the snow.

You're right, only fools clear snow. Sensible people can just walk through it.

It could be especailly important if you have kids walking that path or elderly people or just those not very good on their feet.

They would have a problem once they left the drive anyway.

But that would be their problem same if they went skiiing their problem not mine.

Blame society bull****.

Sometiems one has to be resonsible for ones own decisions, you can't always blame 'society' whatever that is.

Precisely, stop clearing your drive for other people. Let them walk across the snow as though they had a brain.

Or if you're expecting a fragile delivery.

Couriers are used to it.

Yeah sure.
mountineers are used to it but some don;t make it back alive, so being used to it is irrelivant from an accident point of view.

Hardly the same difficulty level.

The more difficult something is the more care you take.

It is up to the courier to learn to do the basic task of walking through snow, a naturally occurring substance he encountered as a child.

Or you might know yuo don;t want to clear the snow AFTER coming back from the pub.

You won't care then.

I will if it puts me in hospital, but then again some of us have enough sense to predict what can happen in the future.

Falling over in soft snow is not life threatening.

It is if you hit your head on a wall or something that's what happened to Natasha Richardson.

Clumsy idiot.

maybe that's why I've not taken up hang gliding or any other dangerous sport.

Wimp.

Nah self presevation.

Hiding from all danger is pathetic and boring.

As I said, it was 2-3 inches here!

Is that with or without viagra

Viagra doesn't change the length.

That's not what I've heard

Then you need to read up on it.

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She was a little taken, but she decided to just tell him the truth. "It's called sexual intercourse, darling".

Little Tony just said, "Oh, OK," and went back outside to play with the other kids.

A few minutes later he came back in and said angrily, "Grandma, it isn't called sexual intercourse. It's called "Bunk Beds". And Jimmy's mum wants to talk to you."

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's no longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how did that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is pilled up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but most of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of the cold tap it ain't rocket science.
Do you water your garden using jugs of water maybe you think UKers use pint glasses to water their garden maybe the rich and royalty use old magnum champagne bottles.....

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:09:35 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:15:38 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 16 January 2017 22:25:39 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

and rain and snow and even hot weather.

We are treated like children. It has to stop.

Maybe if people stopped acting like children....



And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

Why not, what is so specail about black ice ?

It's the low speed that stops you destroying your house.

Low speed of what exactly ?



No there was a legal requirement to have pavements level.
Which is why they put a notice up after it happened rather than before.
Just like they do even in supermarkets with wet floor signs.
Those signs don't prevent slipping they are there to warn you.

If a pavement isn't level, notice it yourself, stop expecting others to wrap you in cotton wool, it's pathetic.

They have yet to find a way to get guide dogs to see such things as raised pavements and the area wasn't well lit because it was under a bridge with NO lighting.


There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

Because it's not a public right of way as it previously was and using it would be at your own risk.

Using anything is at your own risk, you CHOSE to use that path.

People choose to drive cars and take flights and go to resorts in other countries where terrorism allows gunman on the beach and in hotels.
People expect the food they buy to be safe do yuo test food before you eat it to make sure it;s not contaminaed.
we're having rooms checked for asbesdos today.



It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.

Lots of people are children.

Then why does the law apply to adults?

Try thinking about it if you are an adult that is.
Why put speed limits on cars and lorries, why have traffic lights ?


Anyway if the children are so ****ing stupid they can't avoid tripping over something, maybe their parents should keep them on a lead?

Some do.
Some adults are put on shoer leads some adults are locked up so they can't interfere with other adults lives maybe we dontl need prisions then if yuo;re not adult enough to aviod murderes or those defrauding you.
Why do you need guerentees if you buyt a fauulty product surely that's your problem.


Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished.

Why.

Because the safety of your own car is up to you, and nobody else.

What if yuo crash it into someone elses car or hosue that's OK then is it.


Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

What iof a lorry crashed into yuor house, it;s yuor fault for buying a house near a road.
What about an aircraft falling from the sky because a pilot didnlt check he had enough fuel ?



What an idiot.
That means that a car can be used as a weapon and if you get killed it's your fauly, what an idiot.

Nobody would destroy their own car on purpose.

And no one would kill themselves either would they.


You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

Even the blind or at night without lights.

Get a dog or a friend.

or a brain, you should try it sometime.


What about sink holes.

What?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...eorgia-n708106

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-37934011


Have you ever driven over a pothole

No, I go round them.

Why doesn't everyone ?



--
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"Not right now," I replied, "I'm having a ****."
"I don't believe you," said the voice, "slide it under the door."
"No problem," I said. "The yellow bits are sweetcorn!"

On 18/01/2017 11:17, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's no longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how did that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is pilled up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but most of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of the cold tap it ain't rocket science.
Do you water your garden using jugs of water maybe you think UKers use pint glasses to water their garden maybe the rich and royalty use old magnum champagne bottles.....



NOT a sensible thing to do if the ground is still freezing.

Hot water freezes faster than cold. In other words, you'll make it worse.

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:14:43 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:03:48 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:36:28 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's easier to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it. Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it. That clears the snow.

You're right,

I know.

only fools clear snow. Sensible people can just walk through it.

Yep, that's what Robert Scott did, why can't everyone.




Blame society bull****.

Sometiems one has to be resonsible for ones own decisions, you can't always blame 'society' whatever that is.

Precisely, stop clearing your drive for other people. Let them walk across the snow as though they had a brain.

Yep if you can't walk on yuor drive to collect the [post frpm a postman in his van that's your problem get if your arse and collect your own post.


Or if you're expecting a fragile delivery.

Couriers are used to it.

Yeah sure.
mountineers are used to it but some don;t make it back alive, so being used to it is irrelivant from an accident point of view.

Hardly the same difficulty level.

The more difficult something is the more care you take.

It is up to the courier to learn to do the basic task of walking through snow, a naturally occurring substance he encountered as a child.

Or learn to collct your own post it isn't that difficult did you leant to walk to a shop as a kid or do you use amazon for everything.


Or you might know yuo don;t want to clear the snow AFTER coming back from the pub.

You won't care then.

I will if it puts me in hospital, but then again some of us have enough sense to predict what can happen in the future.


Falling over in soft snow is not life threatening.

It is if you hit your head on a wall or something that's what happened to Natasha Richardson.

Clumsy idiot.

only idiots ignore warnings. The sensible take note and act accordingly that's why there are such things as warnings.


maybe that's why I've not taken up hang gliding or any other dangerous sport.

Wimp.

Nah self presevation.

Hiding from all danger is pathetic and boring.

Putting yourself in danger is proof that stupid people do exist and one of them can be next to yuo or in the car behind.
If you're stupid enough to drive in front of an idiot that's your problem too isn't it.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the house,
****wit.

All your even sillier **** ignored.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:56:15 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:09:35 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:15:38 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 16 January 2017 22:25:39 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

and rain and snow and even hot weather.

We are treated like children. It has to stop.

Maybe if people stopped acting like children....

Irrelevant.

And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

Why not, what is so specail about black ice ?

It's the low speed that stops you destroying your house.

Low speed of what exactly ?

Your car when on your drive.

No there was a legal requirement to have pavements level.
Which is why they put a notice up after it happened rather than before.
Just like they do even in supermarkets with wet floor signs.
Those signs don't prevent slipping they are there to warn you.

If a pavement isn't level, notice it yourself, stop expecting others to wrap you in cotton wool, it's pathetic.

They have yet to find a way to get guide dogs to see such things as raised pavements and the area wasn't well lit because it was under a bridge with NO lighting.

Then the guide dog isn't trained well enough.

There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

Because it's not a public right of way as it previously was and using it would be at your own risk.

Using anything is at your own risk, you CHOSE to use that path.

People choose to drive cars and take flights and go to resorts in other countries where terrorism allows gunman on the beach and in hotels.
People expect the food they buy to be safe do yuo test food before you eat it to make sure it;s not contaminaed.
we're having rooms checked for asbesdos today.

People need to work out their own dangers and stop expecting everything to be handed to them on a plate.

It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.

Lots of people are children.

Then why does the law apply to adults?

Try thinking about it if you are an adult that is.
Why put speed limits on cars and lorries, why have traffic lights ?

Speed limits are pointless, traffic lights are to increase traffic flow, sensible folk ignore them if their way is clear.

Anyway if the children are so ****ing stupid they can't avoid tripping over something, maybe their parents should keep them on a lead?

Some do.

Then get locked up for cruelty to THEIR OWN children.

Some adults are put on shoer leads some adults are locked up so they can't interfere with other adults lives maybe we dontl need prisions then if yuo;re not adult enough to aviod murderes or those defrauding you.

Your sentence is disjointed. Drink less then try again.

Why do you need guerentees if you buyt a fauulty product surely that's your problem.

You cannot tell it's faulty. But you can tell there is ice or a pothole in front of you.

Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished.

Why.

Because the safety of your own car is up to you, and nobody else.

What if yuo crash it into someone elses car or hosue that's OK then is it.

They were free to avoid you.

Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

What iof a lorry crashed into yuor house, it;s yuor fault for buying a house near a road.

Yes, mine is in a culdesac.

What about an aircraft falling from the sky because a pilot didnlt check he had enough fuel ?

**** happens. The pilot won't do it twice.

What an idiot.
That means that a car can be used as a weapon and if you get killed it's your fauly, what an idiot.

Nobody would destroy their own car on purpose.

And no one would kill themselves either would they.

Most, not intentionally.

You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

Even the blind or at night without lights.

Get a dog or a friend.

or a brain, you should try it sometime.

Brains allow us to look out for ourselves.

What about sink holes.

What?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...eorgia-n708106

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-37934011

Rare. So what was your point?

Have you ever driven over a pothole

No, I go round them.

Why doesn't everyone ?

Because they are worthy of a Darwin award.

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Son: "I was the only one who could answer my maths teacher's question."
Mother: "Oh, really? What was her question?
Son: "Who threw the paper aeroplane at me?"

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:13:55 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:14:43 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:03:48 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 15:36:28 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:25:27 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's easier to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it. Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it. That clears the snow.

You're right,

I know.

only fools clear snow. Sensible people can just walk through it.

Yep, that's what Robert Scott did, why can't everyone.

Snow in habited countries ain't as deep.

Blame society bull****.

Sometiems one has to be resonsible for ones own decisions, you can't always blame 'society' whatever that is.

Precisely, stop clearing your drive for other people. Let them walk across the snow as though they had a brain.

Yep if you can't walk on yuor drive to collect the [post frpm a postman in his van that's your problem get if your arse and collect your own post.

Postmen deliver to my door, only America doesn't do this. They have boxes by the road.

Or if you're expecting a fragile delivery.

Couriers are used to it.

Yeah sure.
mountineers are used to it but some don;t make it back alive, so being used to it is irrelivant from an accident point of view.

Hardly the same difficulty level.

The more difficult something is the more care you take.

It is up to the courier to learn to do the basic task of walking through snow, a naturally occurring substance he encountered as a child.

Or learn to collct your own post it isn't that difficult did you leant to walk to a shop as a kid or do you use amazon for everything.

Why would I collect my own post? It comes through my letterbox.

Or you might know yuo don;t want to clear the snow AFTER coming back from the pub.

You won't care then.

I will if it puts me in hospital, but then again some of us have enough sense to predict what can happen in the future.


Falling over in soft snow is not life threatening.

It is if you hit your head on a wall or something that's what happened to Natasha Richardson.

Clumsy idiot.

only idiots ignore warnings. The sensible take note and act accordingly that's why there are such things as warnings.

Only idiots need warnings.

maybe that's why I've not taken up hang gliding or any other dangerous sport.

Wimp.

Nah self presevation.

Hiding from all danger is pathetic and boring.

Putting yourself in danger is proof that stupid people do exist and one of them can be next to yuo or in the car behind.
If you're stupid enough to drive in front of an idiot that's your problem too isn't it.

It's only "danger" if you're a wimp.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news
Why don't you just **** off?
You're a ******, we know it, you know it.

On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:15:18 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the house,
****wit.

but you do have hot water inside yuor hose don;t you the same place you fill yuor jug from. Why must you tape be threaded most of the hoses I've seen and used don;t have threads and teh tapes in the house haven't either.



All your even sillier **** ignored.

On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:11:07 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:56:15 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:09:35 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:15:38 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 16 January 2017 22:25:39 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:21:19 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 16:23:30 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:38:43 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 13 January 2017 14:15:21 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:06:34 -0000, whisky-dave wrote:


Just supose you clear yuor driveway with hot water and it then freezes and teh postie falls and breaks a leg.

Easy enough to spot ice while you're walking.

what about while driving have you heard of black ice.

Yes, it's visible as a shiny surface.

So why do they issue specail warning about it if yuo can see it.

They warn you about fog too, and that's very visible.

and rain and snow and even hot weather.

We are treated like children. It has to stop.

Maybe if people stopped acting like children....

Irrelevant.

And just what sped do you drive on your driveway?

Speed is irrelivant resistance is futile ask Anton Yelchin, oh you can't.

At low driveway speeds, you cannot smash into something by hitting black ice.

Why not, what is so specail about black ice ?

It's the low speed that stops you destroying your house.

Low speed of what exactly ?

Your car when on your drive.

What about al those cars crashing at the low speed of not gripping the road and slidding.



No there was a legal requirement to have pavements level.
Which is why they put a notice up after it happened rather than before.
Just like they do even in supermarkets with wet floor signs.
Those signs don't prevent slipping they are there to warn you.

If a pavement isn't level, notice it yourself, stop expecting others to wrap you in cotton wool, it's pathetic.

They have yet to find a way to get guide dogs to see such things as raised pavements and the area wasn't well lit because it was under a bridge with NO lighting.

Then the guide dog isn't trained well enough.

They don't train guide dogs to recognised raised pavements.
I don't think they train them to pull their owners back from steps or stairs either.



There was no sign at the time one appearded later though.

Why should they have to tell people not to walk across their land?

Because it's not a public right of way as it previously was and using it would be at your own risk.

Using anything is at your own risk, you CHOSE to use that path.

People choose to drive cars and take flights and go to resorts in other countries where terrorism allows gunman on the beach and in hotels.
People expect the food they buy to be safe do yuo test food before you eat it to make sure it;s not contaminaed.
we're having rooms checked for asbesdos today.

People need to work out their own dangers and stop expecting everything to be handed to them on a plate.

What do you mean by their own dangers is an out of control car or lorry their danger or someone elses ?




It's a bit like woning a bridge if it;s faulty yuo should put a notice up or stop people using it or at least make some attempt.

********. People should look out for themselves and stop expecting to be treated like children.

Lots of people are children.

Then why does the law apply to adults?

Try thinking about it if you are an adult that is.
Why put speed limits on cars and lorries, why have traffic lights ?

Speed limits are pointless, traffic lights are to increase traffic flow, sensible folk ignore them if their way is clear.

Anyway if the children are so ****ing stupid they can't avoid tripping over something, maybe their parents should keep them on a lead?

Some do.

Then get locked up for cruelty to THEIR OWN children.

No they don't if they are using the lead correctly.
Same as putting baby in one of those cages or cots that they can't get out of themselves the parents aren't charged with imprisioning someone without their consent.



Some adults are put on shoer leads some adults are locked up so they can't interfere with other adults lives maybe we dontl need prisions then if yuo;re not adult enough to aviod murderes or those defrauding you.

Your sentence is disjointed. Drink less then try again.

Inteligent people don;t need every single letter to be in the correct place the human brain can work it out but those wioth teh inteligence of an earthworm micht have probles are you having problems ?

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/cna-yuo-raed-tihs/

I tried it on my cat who didn;t have a clue what the text said, do you have the same problems ?




Why do you need guerentees if you buyt a fauulty product surely that's your problem.

You cannot tell it's faulty. But you can tell there is ice or a pothole in front of you.

can you spot when there is a car in front of you ? How about behind you and to the left and right.
why do people that drive need to be told to keep a specific distance bewteen them. Why do they need to be told when there's corner coming up, why do they need to be told which side of the road to drive on, why is there a line down the middle of the road, why do cars have indicators and warning light ssurely you know which way yuo are going and how come you can;t work out which way the car in front is going ? Seems such peole need an awful lot of info before they can even drive.




Yes it does. The MOT should be abolished.

Why.

Because the safety of your own car is up to you, and nobody else.

What if yuo crash it into someone elses car or hosue that's OK then is it.

They were free to avoid you.

They did that by breaking and some ****wit like yuorself goes into the back of them.



Car insurance should be abolished. Everyone look out for themselves. If we crash into each other, we both pay for our own damages.

What iof a lorry crashed into yuor house, it;s yuor fault for buying a house near a road.

Yes, mine is in a culdesac.

Like your head a dead end in ENGLISH. Why not say it's a dead end.



What about an aircraft falling from the sky because a pilot didnlt check he had enough fuel ?

**** happens. The pilot won't do it twice.

None of his passengers will ever fly with him again either.


What an idiot.
That means that a car can be used as a weapon and if you get killed it's your fauly, what an idiot.

Nobody would destroy their own car on purpose.

And no one would kill themselves either would they.

Most, not intentionally.

Why would you kill yuorself unintentionaly ?


You have to have reasonably flat surfaces to walk or drive on otherwise,
I;d say tough **** for those that drive in potholes and damaged their car,
don't drive on pot holes it's really simple.

I agree, anyone with eyes can avoid holes.

Even the blind or at night without lights.

Get a dog or a friend.

or a brain, you should try it sometime.

Brains allow us to look out for ourselves.

No they do not, brains interpet what they eye can see.
If you're eyses aren;t working the brain can't look.


What about sink holes.

What?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...eorgia-n708106

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-37934011

Rare.

Not that rare depending on where you live.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:15:18 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact
it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still
icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's
no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how
did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be
OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is
gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is
pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the
temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing
that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but
most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the
house,
****wit.

but you do have hot water inside yuor hose don;t you

Yes, but none of those taps are threaded to
take a hose and even if they were, that hose
would be inside the ****ing house, ****wit.

the same place you fill yuor jug from.

I'm not actually stupid enough to fill a jug
from the hot water tap, even if you are.

Why must you tape be threaded

Because thats the only sensible way to attach a hose to it, ****wit.

most of the hoses I've seen and used don;t have threads

The fitting that attaches it to the tap does, ****wit.

and teh tapes in the house haven't either.

The cold water taps for the washing machine and dishwasher do, ****wit.

All your even sillier **** ignored.

On Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:25:36 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:15:18 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact
it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be icy..

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still
icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted it's
no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so how
did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would be
OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is
gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is
pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the
temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing
that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but
most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the
house,
****wit.

but you do have hot water inside yuor hose don;t you

Yes, but none of those taps are threaded to
take a hose

The hose can go on the outside of the tap idiot.
Same way you can get hoses that go over bathroom taps so you can have a shower.


and even if they were, that hose
would be inside the ****ing house, ****wit.

So.
All you need is the inteligence to put the hose pipe through a window door or even cat flap. I;ve managed that living on the foirst floor the hose goes out the kitchen window to the garden it's not rocket science.



the same place you fill yuor jug from.

I'm not actually stupid enough to fill a jug
from the hot water tap, even if you are.

So how would you throw hot water over snow then ?


Why must you tape be threaded

Because thats the only sensible way to attach a hose to it, ****wit.

No have you never heard of Hose clamps, the clues in the title, and as yuo;'re cluless here's a picture.
https://www.rapidonline.com/rolson-6...rtment-13-0280



most of the hoses I've seen and used don;t have threads

The fitting that attaches it to the tap does, ****wit.

They don't have to ****wit.



and teh tapes in the house haven't either.

The cold water taps for the washing machine and dishwasher do, ****wit.

Mine don't you are meant to connect those to the pipes not the tap otherwiose yuo wouldn;lt be able to use the kitchen tap when the washing machine is attached. I can use my kitchen tap to fill my kettle evemn when the washing machine is filling itself upm with water.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:25:36 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:15:18 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while
you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact
it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be
icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still
icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted
it's
no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so
how
did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would
be
OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is
gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is
pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer.
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the
temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it
freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing
that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK
put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but
most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead
of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the
house,
****wit.

but you do have hot water inside yuor hose don;t you

Yes, but none of those taps are threaded to
take a hose

The hose can go on the outside of the tap idiot.
Same way you can get hoses that go over bathroom
taps so you can have a shower.

AND THE ****ING HOSE IS STILL INSIDE THE ****ING HOUSE, ****WIT.

and even if they were, that hose would be inside the ****ing house,
****wit.

So.
All you need is the inteligence to put the hose pipe through a window
door or even cat flap. I;ve managed that living on the foirst floor the
hose goes out the kitchen window to the garden it's not rocket science.

In the depths of winter after a snow storm or blizzard has
just dumped inches or feet of snow on your drive way.

Yep, you are likely to actually be that ****ing stupid.

Anyone with even half a ****ing clue would use a snow
blower instead of farting around with hot water like that.

On Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:31:14 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:25:36 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:15:18 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:54:47 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
whisky-dave wrote

But you spend an hour slipping and sliding in it while
you're
digging!

I wouldn't.

Then you also wouldn't while just walking across it. In fact
it's
easier
to walk through snow than across cleared snow which can be
icy.

Then it hasn't been cleared properly has it.

Not possible to clear a drive way 'properly' in that sense.

Yes it is.

It clearly isnt if you have JUST removed the snow and left it still
icy.

Then you haven't done it properly.
Any fool can throw how water over snow and claim now it's melted
it's
no
longer snow so you've cleared the drive.
I would assume your driveway is currently free of ice and snow so
how
did
that happen ? magic.



The snow can be blown to another location or shoveled that would
be
OK,

Not if its still got ice once the snow has been removed.

but the snow has gone so for some that means the driveway danger is
gone.
Same as those driving on roads might think oh look all the snow is
pilled
up on the side of teh road so the road is safe as it is in summer..
And this is why the black ice warnings start.


you could use hot water and that would work OK provided the
temerature
wasn't zero C or below the water should drain away before it
freezes
again.

And when it is below zero C it would be MUCH worse than not doing
that.

Thats when you can add salt which is why gritting lorries in the UK
put
salt down when the temp is likely to drop below 1C.
Salted grit will still, freeze below -8 so there's little point but
most
of england rarely gets that low for very long.
If you have temps of -20 there;s no point in usign salt.




Any fool can clear snow away by throwing warm water on it.

You can't clear an entire driveway that way.

yes you can.

Corse you can't, you'd need too many jugs of hot water, ****wit.

Don't use jugs ****wit, stick the garden hose on the hot tap instead
of
the cold tap it ain't rocket science.

**** all have any hot water tap threaded to take a hose outside the
house,
****wit.

but you do have hot water inside yuor hose don;t you

Yes, but none of those taps are threaded to
take a hose

The hose can go on the outside of the tap idiot.
Same way you can get hoses that go over bathroom
taps so you can have a shower.

AND THE ****ING HOSE IS STILL INSIDE THE ****ING HOUSE, ****WIT.

Yes that;s the way it works yuo attach the hose to the tap , yuo turn the tap on and water flows through the hose until it reaches the end of the hose then you can either use the water for cleaning a car driveway or watering the front garden you can even using it for washing the car.
A hose is quite useful if you know how to use one.


and even if they were, that hose would be inside the ****ing house,
****wit.

So.
All you need is the inteligence to put the hose pipe through a window
door or even cat flap. I;ve managed that living on the first floor the
hose goes out the kitchen window to the garden it's not rocket science.

In the depths of winter after a snow storm or blizzard has
just dumped inches or feet of snow on your drive way.

That depends on the conditions wouldn't be much point tryign to clear the snow from the avalanche on the hotel in Italy even if they had a tap outside.
inteligent peole would be able to work out what;s best for teh conditions maybe this is why you're having problems.
Do yuo have problems washing yuor car in a blizard or when it;s a few feet under snow, if I were you I;d wait until the weather improves before cleanign the car.




Yep, you are likely to actually be that ****ing stupid.

Anyone with even half a ****ing clue would use a snow
blower instead of farting around with hot water like that.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:01:05 +0000, Bod wrote:

Hot water freezes faster than cold.

Eh?

On Friday, 20 January 2017 12:55:17 UTC, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:01:05 +0000, Bod wrote:

Hot water freezes faster than cold.

Eh?

http://www.iflscience.com/chemistry/...d-now-we-know/

mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:01:05 +0000, Bod wrote:

Hot water freezes faster than cold.

Eh?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 20/01/2017 17:35, Tim+ wrote:
mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:01:05 +0000, Bod wrote:

Hot water freezes faster than cold.

Eh?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect

Tim

We've Finally Figured Out Why Hot Water Freezes Faster Than Cold
gizmodo.com/weve-finally-figured-out-why-hot-water-freezes-faster-1455906029

Fortunately, now a team of physicists has worked out why it happens.
Known as the Mpemba effect€”after a Tanzanian student who noticed that
hot ice cream mix freezes faster than a cold€”it was in fact first
observed by Aristotle, then later Francis Bacon and René Descartes.31
Oct 2013

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:35:29 -0000 (UTC), Tim+ wrote:

mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:01:05 +0000, Bod wrote:

Hot water freezes faster than cold.

Eh?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect

Tim

So hot water doesn't go through the cold phase before freezing?
Seems unlikely (!) and indeed that link implies no serious evidence
to back up the assertion.