"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty void if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you brought it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They still have a legal obligation to repair or replace it if it
fails within a reasonable time for that particular type of item.

And who sets that time ?

Ultimately the legal system used if the manufacturer refuses to honour
the warranty claim. Usually the small claims system in many jurisdictions.

So laptop is expected to last rather longer than say a pair of flip
flops.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

If a manufactuer guarantees a product for life then
why should they merchant support it for life ?

Because when something is guaranteed for life by the manufacturer,
the merchant can claim off the manufacturer when they get a
customer returning a failed product that has a lifetime guarantee.

So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed, take them to
a trade show and get the goon in the fancy clothes fronting
the manufacturers booth to replace the failed ones.

It's a con that you've fallen for

Nope.

as most people have to.

Wrong, as always.

whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't
bind a third party to the terms of a contract that they
have not signed and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

In his situation, they are.

So why send a product back to apple via applecare
when you can get PC woprld to sort it ?

Because PC world and apple will agree that apple will
handle all returns etc. Without that agreement the
responsibility would remain with PC world, and apple
would be within their rights to tell you to go take a hike.

(however apple don't work like that, and tend to dislike
resellers and distributors unless they add significant value)

yuo can buty applecare cheaper than apple sells it.
You can go to anothe rcompany to buy applecare
and teh computer is still covered by apple.

On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:21:09 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/12/2016 11:05, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 21:54:11 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/12/2016 12:22, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 11:42:21 UTC, John Rumm wrote:

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't bind a
third party to the terms of a contract that they have not signed
and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

What else could they be?

the first pary the 2nd would be the shop where you brought it.


You are not Sony, and Currys are not Sony. The only contract that would
be created is between you and Currys, so Sony would not be a party to
the contract.

currys would if the TV needed repair.

On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:23:19 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:21:03 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Places like currys sell extended warremties via 3rd party componies
if a TV goes back to currys they send it on the the 3rd party
company.

Really? Most of these extended warranties are operated by insurance
companies.

So insurance companies aren't 3rd party companies 1st party being the
shop the 2nd the manufacter what's next ?

You think insurance companies actually repair faulty TVs?

No idea and don't care. Their job is to get them repaired or exchanged.

When a friends TV died after a lightning strike they had brought the pcworld
the warrenty had expired. A bloke from samsung turned up (yes the TV was a samsung) he exchanged two boards and left TV working and no charge.

On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty void if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you brought it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything. The manufacture warrents the product



They still have a legal obligation to repair or replace it if it
fails within a reasonable time for that particular type of item.

And who sets that time ?

Ultimately the legal system used if the manufacturer refuses to honour
the warranty claim. Usually the small claims system in many jurisdictions..

So laptop is expected to last rather longer than say a pair of flip
flops.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?


So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?


take them to
a trade show and get the goon in the fancy clothes fronting
the manufacturers booth to replace the failed ones.

Why would he do that without a reciept. ?

On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:43:43 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't
bind a third party to the terms of a contract that they
have not signed and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

In his situation, they are.

So why send a product back to apple via applecare
when you can get PC woprld to sort it ?

Because PC world and apple will agree that apple will
handle all returns etc. Without that agreement the
responsibility would remain with PC world, and apple
would be within their rights to tell you to go take a hike.

(however apple don't work like that, and tend to dislike
resellers and distributors unless they add significant value)

yuo can buty applecare cheaper than apple sells it.
You can go to anothe rcompany to buy applecare
and teh computer is still covered by apple.

So Word/excel/PP is a 3rd party product for PCs then is it ?

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:43:43 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't
bind a third party to the terms of a contract that they
have not signed and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

In his situation, they are.

So why send a product back to apple via applecare
when you can get PC woprld to sort it ?

Because PC world and apple will agree that apple will
handle all returns etc. Without that agreement the
responsibility would remain with PC world, and apple
would be within their rights to tell you to go take a hike.

(however apple don't work like that, and tend to dislike
resellers and distributors unless they add significant value)

yuo can buty applecare cheaper than apple sells it.
You can go to anothe rcompany to buy applecare
and teh computer is still covered by apple.

So Word/excel/PP is a 3rd party product for PCs then is it ?

well, my PC is made by Acer, so yes, Microsoft are a 3rd Party.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:23:19 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:21:03 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
Places like currys sell extended warremties via 3rd party
componies if a TV goes back to currys they send it on the the
3rd party company.

Really? Most of these extended warranties are operated by
insurance companies.

So insurance companies aren't 3rd party companies 1st party being
the shop the 2nd the manufacter what's next ?

You think insurance companies actually repair faulty TVs?

No idea and don't care. Their job is to get them repaired or exchanged.

When a friends TV died after a lightning strike they had brought the
pcworld the warrenty had expired. A bloke from samsung turned up (yes
the TV was a samsung) he exchanged two boards and left TV working and no
charge.

PCworld arranged for a FOC repair out of warranty?

--
*Virtual reality is its own reward *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:47:05 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:23:19 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:21:03 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
Places like currys sell extended warremties via 3rd party
componies if a TV goes back to currys they send it on the the
3rd party company.

Really? Most of these extended warranties are operated by
insurance companies.

So insurance companies aren't 3rd party companies 1st party being
the shop the 2nd the manufacter what's next ?

You think insurance companies actually repair faulty TVs?

No idea and don't care. Their job is to get them repaired or exchanged.

When a friends TV died after a lightning strike they had brought the
pcworld the warrenty had expired. A bloke from samsung turned up (yes
the TV was a samsung) he exchanged two boards and left TV working and no
charge.

PCworld arranged for a FOC repair out of warranty?

YES. roughly 3 months outside .

They were suprised too, expecting the bloke fixing it to say your not covered by warrenty these two boards will cost you £xxxx
But no he said as it's lightning we'll just replace the boards without charge, as it was a board swap a new TV would have been differnt, they never recieved a bill or anyone asking for payment so he must have been telling the truth or didn;t know what he was doing.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:21:09 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/12/2016 11:05, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 21:54:11 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/12/2016 12:22, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 11:42:21 UTC, John Rumm wrote:

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't bind a
third party to the terms of a contract that they have not signed
and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

What else could they be?

the first pary

Not with a CONTRACT.

the 2nd would be the shop where you brought it.

You're talking about how the item gets to the consumer, not the CONTRACT.

You are not Sony, and Currys are not Sony. The only contract that would
be created is between you and Currys, so Sony would not be a party to
the contract.

currys would if the TV needed repair.

Again, nothing to do with the CONTRACT.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

They still have a legal obligation to repair or replace it if it
fails within a reasonable time for that particular type of item.

And who sets that time ?

Ultimately the legal system used if the manufacturer refuses to honour
the warranty claim. Usually the small claims system in many
jurisdictions.

So laptop is expected to last rather longer than say a pair of flip
flops.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

take them to a trade show and get the goon in the fancy clothes
fronting the manufacturers booth to replace the failed ones.

Why would he do that without a reciept. ?

Not everyone requires a receipt.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:43:43 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't
bind a third party to the terms of a contract that they
have not signed and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

In his situation, they are.

So why send a product back to apple via applecare
when you can get PC woprld to sort it ?

Because PC world and apple will agree that apple will
handle all returns etc. Without that agreement the
responsibility would remain with PC world, and apple
would be within their rights to tell you to go take a hike.

(however apple don't work like that, and tend to dislike
resellers and distributors unless they add significant value)

yuo can buty applecare cheaper than apple sells it.
You can go to anothe rcompany to buy applecare
and teh computer is still covered by apple.

So Word/excel/PP is a 3rd party product for PCs then is it ?

We arent discussing 3rd party PRODUCTS, we
are discussing who is a party to a sales CONTRACT.

The manufacturer isnt when you buy
something like a fridge from a retailer.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
John wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 11:08:44 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Normally, the receipt is the proof of *when* as well as *where*
the
device was bought.

Why does that matter ?

Suppose it had been stolen from the factory. Would you expect the
maker to honour any warranty on that?

If it can be proved to have been stolen then no.

Think it's up to you to prove it was bought legitimately. Normally, by
a
receipt or registration.

What about the CFL light my energy supplier sent me for free ?

You expect a gift to have a warranty?

Of course it does.

Good luck with that.

No luck needed, just the receipt at most.

In article ,
John wrote:
What about the CFL light my energy supplier sent me for free ?

You expect a gift to have a warranty?

Of course it does.

Good luck with that.

No luck needed, just the receipt at most.

How do you get the receipt for a gift from your energy supplier?

It's possible if it failed and you complained to them they might send you
another - but what if they'd run out? Send you a refund of what you'd paid?

--
*Your kid may be an honours student, but you're still an idiot.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
John wrote:
What about the CFL light my energy supplier sent me for free ?

You expect a gift to have a warranty?

Of course it does.

Good luck with that.

No luck needed, just the receipt at most.

How do you get the receipt for a gift from your energy supplier?

I said at most for a reason.

It's possible if it failed and you complained to them they might send you
another - but what if they'd run out? Send you a refund of what you'd
paid?

There might well be more than just that sort of gift.

--
*Your kid may be an honours student, but you're still an idiot.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:16:24 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 11:21:09 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 05/12/2016 11:05, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 21:54:11 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/12/2016 12:22, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 December 2016 11:42:21 UTC, John Rumm wrote:

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you can't bind a
third party to the terms of a contract that they have not signed
and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

What else could they be?

the first pary

Not with a CONTRACT.

what contract ?


the 2nd would be the shop where you brought it.

You're talking about how the item gets to the consumer, not the CONTRACT.

what contract ?


You are not Sony, and Currys are not Sony. The only contract that would
be created is between you and Currys, so Sony would not be a party to
the contract.

currys would if the TV needed repair.

Again, nothing to do with the CONTRACT.

what contract ?

On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:33:17 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?


And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.
The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring, it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.


So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.


So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive and the discs
can;t be read because they have deterioted will say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge or will the shop that sold them do that. ?

whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote
whisky-dave wrote
John Rumm wrote

It's a con that you've fallen for as most people have to.

There is a fairly simple concept in law, that you
can't bind a third party to the terms of a contract
that they have not signed and have not even seen.

Who's the 3rd party ?

If you bought a Sony TV from Currys, then Sony would be a 3rd party.

No they wouldn't

What else could they be?

the first pary

Not with a CONTRACT.

what contract ?

The one referred to in the second para above.

the 2nd would be the shop where you brought it.

You're talking about how the item gets to the consumer, not the CONTRACT.

what contract ?

The one referred to in the second para above.

You are not Sony, and Currys are not Sony. The only
contract that would be created is between you and
Currys, so Sony would not be a party to the contract.

currys would if the TV needed repair.

Again, nothing to do with the CONTRACT.

what contract ?

The one referred to in the second para above and just above.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:33:17 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article , Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

Of for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.

I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge

Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.

or will the shop that sold them do that. ?

Them too, but they just get they replaced by the manufacturer.

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:33:17 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article , Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.


Of for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing things.
so tell me how long this lifetime is then.


So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.

even if you damged it ?


I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge

Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.

So how long is a lifetime ?
threre no evidence that any magnetic media can last a lifetime.


or will the shop that sold them do that. ?

Them too, but they just get they replaced by the manufacturer.

why would they be making 3/12 floppies if they have a lifetime guarantee
few use such thin gs so why make them now to replace those that were used 10+ years agp and give them away free ?

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:33:17 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article ,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.

even if you damged it ?

Corse not.

Tho with the aldi guaranteed, we actually had one of the aldi
managers say that you are free to throw the phone at the wall
in disgust and that they would still give you a full refund with
the phone they were flogging at one time.

That is obviously much more than the statutory warranty provides.

I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge

Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.

So how long is a lifetime ?

For as long as the manufacturer is still around
to provide the replacement in practice.

threre no evidence that any magnetic media can last a lifetime.

It does in the sense that the most you have
to do is reformat to be able to keep using it.

The lifetime guarantee didnt apply to the data,
JUST to the media continuing to be usable.

or will the shop that sold them do that. ?

Them too, but they just get they replaced by the manufacturer.

why would they be making 3/12 floppies if they
have a lifetime guarantee few use such thin gs

Everyone used them when they had that lifetime guarantee.
There was no alternative. That was before data CDs.

so why make them now to replace those that were
used 10+ years agp and give them away free ?

I doubt too many are claiming replacements anymore.

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On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:55:27 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:33:17 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 5 December 2016 18:39:10 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
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...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article ,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has..

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?
Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?


If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.
can you give a figure.


So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.

even if you damged it ?

Corse not.

so there you have your restriction now define damage that you do.


Tho with the aldi guaranteed, we actually had one of the aldi
managers say that you are free to throw the phone at the wall
in disgust and that they would still give you a full refund with
the phone they were flogging at one time.

just at one time.
So would aldi send this back to the manufactor for a replacement ?
You have claimed this is how things work they know how long a product will last



That is obviously much more than the statutory warranty provides.

Yes and that is why they can remove this guarantee whenever they want to.
Now if aldi sell teh original iphone adn I have one and it no longer works could i get a free replacement by throwing it against the wall ?



I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge

Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.

So how long is a lifetime ?

For as long as the manufacturer is still around
to provide the replacement in practice.

So unlikely to be a lifetime. And such guarantees come with T&Cs anyway.



threre no evidence that any magnetic media can last a lifetime.

It does in the sense that the most you have
to do is reformat to be able to keep using it.

No there isn't it degrades just like cassette tape used to.

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...
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...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
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...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.

So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?

With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.

even if you damged it ?

Corse not.

so there you have your restriction now define damage that you do.

No point, that is obvious.

Tho with the aldi guarantee, we actually had one of the aldi
managers say that you are free to throw the phone at the wall
in disgust and that they would still give you a full refund with
the phone they were flogging at one time.

just at one time.

Even you should have noticed that they dont always have a phone for sale.

So would aldi send this back to the manufactor for a replacement ?

Obviously not in that case.

You have claimed this is how things work
they know how long a product will last

I never ever said anything even remotely like that about that ALDI
guarantee.

That is obviously much more than the statutory warranty provides.

Yes and that is why they can remove
this guarantee whenever they want to.

But not after you have bought it with that guarantee applying.

Now if aldi sell teh original iphone adn I have one and it no longer
works could i get a free replacement by throwing it against the wall ?

You get a FULL REFUND if you dont like it for whatever reason.

I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge

Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.

So how long is a lifetime ?

For as long as the manufacturer is still around
to provide the replacement in practice.

So unlikely to be a lifetime.

Can be, Kodak is still around and was there before I was born.

And such guarantees come with T&Cs anyway.

And the statutory guarantees dont.

threre no evidence that any magnetic media can last a lifetime.

It does in the sense that the most you have
to do is reformat to be able to keep using it.

No there isn't it degrades just like cassette tape used to.

Plenty never degrades enough so it isnt usable anymore.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work bludging
troll.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole, you brain dead ****wit.
You can't even read or understand a simple guarantee !

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee

The Rainbow® Guarantee is for the lifetime of the sole. The sandals will be eligible for warranty until you have worn through anywhere on the top or bottom layer of the sole.
RAINBOW® SANDALS will repair your sandals if they are damaged or defective due to manufacturing defects only. If your sandals are covered under our warranty and we are unable to repair them, we will issue a new pair.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

You can't even read or understand a simple guarantee !

It says precisely what I said, ****wit troll.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee

The Rainbow® Guarantee is for the lifetime of the sole. The sandals will
be eligible
for warranty until you have worn through anywhere on the top or bottom
layer of the sole.
RAINBOW® SANDALS will repair your sandals if they are damaged or defective
due to
manufacturing defects only. If your sandals are covered under our warranty
and we are
unable to repair them, we will issue a new pair.

What I said in the quoting, ****wit troll.

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...
On Friday, 2 December 2016 17:51:38 UTC, Rod Speed
wrote:
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...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug..
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

So only the sole is the warranty for life.
Id the strapo breaks tough **** as it's not guetenteed for life is it.


You can't even read or understand a simple guarantee !

It says precisely what I said, ****wit troll.

Nothing like what you said you said teh sandel has a lifetime warrenty when it doesn't only the sole has.



https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee

The Rainbow® Guarantee is for the lifetime of the sole. The sandals will
be eligible
for warranty until you have worn through anywhere on the top or bottom
layer of the sole.
RAINBOW® SANDALS will repair your sandals if they are damaged or defective
due to
manufacturing defects only. If your sandals are covered under our warranty
and we are
unable to repair them, we will issue a new pair.

What I said in the quoting, ****wit troll.

No you claim the sandals has the lifetime warrenty it doesn't the sole only..

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John
Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC,
charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC,
Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on
plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is
correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off
saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused
to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put
back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where
the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty
it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the
store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was
sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and
so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights
are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont
have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes
wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the
statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip
flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time
at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for,
you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working
product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work
bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

So only the sole is the warranty for life.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Id the strapo breaks tough **** as it's not guetenteed for life is it.

The warranty says the exact opposite, you stupid clown.
While ever the SOLE has not worn out, you get new sandals
whenever the strap comes out of the sole, or breaks etc.

And since this mindless silly **** is the best you can manage, here
goes the chain in the rest of your even more mindless silly ****.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John
Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC,
charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC,
Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on
plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is
correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off
saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused
to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put
back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where
the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty
it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the
store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was
sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and
so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights
are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont
have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes
wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the
statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip
flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time
at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for,
you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working
product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such things..

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work
bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

So only the sole is the warranty for life.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Id the strapo breaks tough **** as it's not guetenteed for life is it.

The warranty says the exact opposite, you stupid clown.
While ever the SOLE has not worn out, you get new sandals
whenever the strap comes out of the sole, or breaks etc.

Where does it say that ?
Doesn't say anything like it.
They have T&Cs for replacement.



And since this mindless silly **** is the best you can manage, here
goes the chain in the rest of your even more mindless silly ****.

you couldn;t even lie yourself out of a wet paper bag.

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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John
Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC,
charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave
wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC,
Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room.
To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on
plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is
correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off
saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company
refused
to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put
back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim
this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where
the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is
faulty
it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store,
as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the
store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was
sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to
the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product
will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while
and
so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to
be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights
are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious
advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont
have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the
manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that
sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes
wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as
a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the
statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip
flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before
time
at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last
for,
you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working
product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and
in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users
lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case.

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such
things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work
bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

So only the sole is the warranty for life.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Id the strapo breaks tough **** as it's not guetenteed for life is it.

The warranty says the exact opposite, you stupid clown.
While ever the SOLE has not worn out, you get new sandals
whenever the strap comes out of the sole, or breaks etc.

Where does it say that ?

In the link you posted, ****wit.

And since this mindless silly **** is the best you can manage, here
goes the chain in the rest of your even more mindless silly ****.

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...
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John
Rumm
wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC,
charles
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave
wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC,
Dave
Plowman
(News)
wrote:
In article
,
Tim
Watts
wrote:
On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room..
To
wire
in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on
plug.
Doing
that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is
correctly
fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off
saying
"warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company
refused
to
guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put
back
together
so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim
this
it';s
just
what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where
the
con
is
that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is
faulty
it
goers
back
to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store,
as
where
you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the
store
from
which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was
sent
back
to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation..

However, the legal responsibility belongs to
the
merchant
it
was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product
will
last
?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while
and
so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to
be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights
are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.

what contract ?

The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious
advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont
have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the
manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.

But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person
selling
it.

Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that
sold
you
the
item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in
manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes
wrong.

Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as
a
laptop
has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the
statutory
warranty.

So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip
flops ?

Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before
time
at
which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last
for,
you
have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working
product
or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and
in
some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.

That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.

So no use then is it.

Corse it is if the strap pulls out of the sole
or breaks with the sole still fine and you
are in Britain so the postage isnt too bad.

for a lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

Do sandels even live or have a life or is it the users
lifetime ?

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

If for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.

Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing
things. so tell me how long this lifetime is then.

It tells you, the life of the sole in that particular case..

SO what is the life of teh sole.

Until the sole has worn out, as it says.

can you give a figure.

Obviously not, it depends on how its used.

Even you should have noticed that if you only wear it
one day a year, say to the Xmas party, it will last a tad
longer than if you deliver catalogs to letter boxes and
do that 5 days a week, for 80 hours a week.

So your lifetime ends after a few weeks of delivering such
things.

Its the lifetime of the sandal, you pathetic excuse for a work
bludging
troll.



So why do they only mention the sole,

Because that is what they use to determine when
the warranty stops, when the sole has worn out.

So only the sole is the warranty for life.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

If the strap breaks tough **** as it's not guetenteed for life is it..

The warranty says the exact opposite, you stupid clown.
While ever the SOLE has not worn out, you get new sandals
whenever the strap comes out of the sole, or breaks etc.

Where does it say that ?

In the link you posted, ****wit.

No it doesn't ****wit learn to read.
It wonl;t repolace it for life only if faylty workmanship is the cause NOT normal wear and tear or some ****wit cuts through them with an angle grinder while cutting their toe nails.



And since this mindless silly **** is the best you can manage, here
goes the chain in the rest of your even more mindless silly ****.

and a plip plop to you and your ****.

Some terminal ****wit desperately cowering behind
whisky-dave wrote
just the **** that always pours from the back of it.