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On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:55:27 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:49:50 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 01/12/2016 17:06, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:33:43 UTC, charles wrote:
In article
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:30:33 UTC, Dave Plowman
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In article , Tim
Watts
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On 30/11/16 18:00, charles wrote:
I have that problem in a shower room. To wire in
permanently
means
removing a factory fitted, moulded on plug. Doing that
negates
the
guarantee,


I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

Can't see why it would if the plug is correctly fitted.

Isnt it simialr to a sticker falling off saying "warrenty
void
if
removed". All it means is the company refused to guarentee
something
that
could have been '****ed' with and then put back together so
it's
not
noticable.

I;'m not saying they are right to claim this it';s just what
they
say.

It;'s similar to lifetime guarantees where the con is that
you
have
to
have a reciept why ? If a product is faulty it goers back to
the
manufacter for replacement NOT the store, as where you
brought
it
should
be irrelivant.

If a product is faulty it goes back to the store from which
you
bought
it.
You have no contract with the manufacturer.

A friend had a canon camecoder 500i that was sent back to
canon
under
guarantee
NOT to the store.

That may well be the case in that situation.

However, the legal responsibility belongs to the merchant it was
bought
from.

How does a merchant know how long any product will last ?

They dont.

They do have some idea.

Only once they have been selling them for a while and so
know what the warranty claim rate has turned out to be.

They don't need to know anything.
The manufacture warrents the product

Legally that isnt correct. Legally your warranty rights are
with who you bought it from, not the manufacturer.


what contract ?


The one referred to above.

And the retailer does need to know what the warranty
claim rate is like because there is an obvious advantage
with stuff that doesnt fail in warranty so they dont have
to fart around providing refunds or replacements and
then claiming that back from the manufacturer. That
has a real cost to the retailer, even if the manufacturer
does cover the refund or replacement.


But all warrenties deal with teh product not the person selling it.


Legally your warranty rights are with the operation that sold you the item.

The warrenties deal with anyhting regarding a fault in manufactiuring,
it wopn;t iusualy be the shops fault if a product goes wrong.


Irrelevant to who your warranty rights are with.

So flip flops don;t have a warrenty is that it ?

Corse they have a warranty. Its just not as long as a laptop has.

So what is the warrenty on flip flops ?

What is a reasonable time for it to last with the statutory warranty.


So what does the statutory warranty say regarding flip flops ?


Same as it does with everything else, it if fails before time at which
you can reasonably expect that type of product to last for, you have
the right to have THE SELLER, replace it with a working product or
give you a full refund of what you paid for that item, and in some
jurisdictions that choice is the buyers, not the sellers.

https://www.rainbowsandals.com/custo...ime)-guarantee
See what the lifetime warrenty actually means.


That is just what THAT PARTICULAR lifetime
guarantee actually means and says nothing useful
what so ever about the STATUTORY warranty.
It is in ADDITION to the statutory warranty.


So no use then is it.


Of for example the sole of the rainbow sandal
only lasts a week with normal use being worn
about the house and work during that week, you
have the legal right to have the sandals replaced
regardless of what Rainbow Sandals say there.


Yes the warrenty sets out teh rules for replacing things.
so tell me how long this lifetime is then.


So which products have a lifetime guarantee ?

That varys. At one time some floppy disks had one and a mate
of mine used to save up the ones that had failed,

are yuo sure it's a lifetime warrenty ?

It certainly was with those at that time.


So what is a lifetime warrenty on floppy discs?


With the ones that actually had a lifetime warranty,
you were entitled to a replacement whenever it failed.


even if you damged it ?


I have 5 1/4 disc, now if I insert them into a know good drive
and the discs can;t be read because they have deterioted will
say 3M or whover made them replace them free of charge


Yes. But as far as I am aware no one offered a lifetime
guarantee on 5.25" floppys, only some of the 3.5" floppys.


So how long is a lifetime ?
threre no evidence that any magnetic media can last a lifetime.


or will the shop that sold them do that. ?


Them too, but they just get they replaced by the manufacturer.


why would they be making 3/12 floppies if they have a lifetime guarantee
few use such thin gs so why make them now to replace those that were used 10+ years agp and give them away free ?