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Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?

I have found this:
http://www.tap-spares.com/downloads/...22%20PARTS.pdf


Then I guess I will need one of these:
http://www.tap-spares.com/p/40mm-Sin...ridge_174.html

- or similar from Amazon for a tenner - are they standardised?

[1] or possibly the similar
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-lever-tap/
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Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?


I would imagine that there will be a hidden grub screw beneath the red/blue
temperature indicator. Use a thin blade under the edge of it and it'll
probably pop out.

Once you've slackened the screw the lever will come off giving you access
to remove the cartridge.


I have found this:
http://www.tap-spares.com/downloads/...22%20PARTS.pdf


Then I guess I will need one of these:
http://www.tap-spares.com/p/40mm-Sin...ridge_174.html

- or similar from Amazon for a tenner - are they standardised?


Well there are a *lot* of similar looking valves but once you have it in
you hand you can compare it with pictures on line to confirm that the
replacement is correct.

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Tim+ wrote:

Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?


I would imagine that there will be a hidden grub screw beneath the red/blue
temperature indicator. Use a thin blade under the edge of it and it'll
probably pop out.


Yes, that was my guess from the PDF and the red/blue thing just
disintegrated when I took it off? Can't see a screw in there -
not had time since to grab a torch.

Then I guess I will need one of these:
http://www.tap-spares.com/p/40mm-Sin...ridge_174.html

- or similar from Amazon for a tenner - are they standardised?


Well there are a *lot* of similar looking valves but once you have it in
you hand you can compare it with pictures on line to confirm that the
replacement is correct.


OK, useful to know, thanks.

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Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past for me now.

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Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Tim+ wrote:

Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?


I would imagine that there will be a hidden grub screw beneath the red/blue
temperature indicator. Use a thin blade under the edge of it and it'll
probably pop out.


Yes, that was my guess from the PDF and the red/blue thing just
disintegrated when I took it off? Can't see a screw in there -
not had time since to grab a torch.


Well if there's a hole I bet there's a screw down there. Sometimes it's a
hex socket, 3mm or thereabouts.

Tim


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Tim+ wrote:
Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Tim+ wrote:

Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?

I would imagine that there will be a hidden grub screw beneath the red/blue
temperature indicator. Use a thin blade under the edge of it and it'll
probably pop out.


Yes, that was my guess from the PDF and the red/blue thing just
disintegrated when I took it off? Can't see a screw in there -
not had time since to grab a torch.


Well if there's a hole I bet there's a screw down there. Sometimes it's a
hex socket, 3mm or thereabouts.


In fact, you can see it on the PDF of the tap you posted. Part B3.

Tim

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Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


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On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead pipes!
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On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.

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On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.







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On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I grew up in a soft water area and we definately had lead pipes. What hava
=e I suffered from in the last 76 years?

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wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


Goes against the grain does this. I agree with you.
I won't sleep tonight .......


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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


Goes against the grain does this. I agree with you.
I won't sleep tonight .......


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In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I grew up in a soft water area and we definately had lead pipes. What hava
=e I suffered from in the last 76 years?


The inability to say "have" without stuttering, and the inability to spell "definitely".

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In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I grew up in a soft water area and we definately had lead pipes. What hava
=e I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately. The limescale coats the insides of the
lead pipes and stops lead dissolving in the water.





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In article , GB
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On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?

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In article , GB
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On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?

Possibly. Are you above or below ground level?


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In article , GB
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On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?


Some people worry about nothing. Funny how I keep seeing 100 year old women in the news that drink and smoke.

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Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in, we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.

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On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead pipes!
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On Sunday, 9 October 2016 22:06:01 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


It's more E/W.

http://www.combimate.co.uk/images/up...rdwaterMap.jpg
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In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?


Just brain dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_p...onic_poisoning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_p...ts_on_children

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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.


Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

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Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

What I can't immediately see is how to get it out / dismantled.

Any hints?

I have found this:
http://www.tap-spares.com/downloads/...22%20PARTS.pdf

Then I guess I will need one of these:
http://www.tap-spares.com/p/40mm-Sin...ridge_174.html
- or similar from Amazon for a tenner - are they standardised?

[1] or possibly the similar
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-lever-tap/


After my kitchen mixer has been in place about 7 years, both hot
and cold began to drip. I opened them up, more in hope than
expectation, but I found scale deposits on the ceramic disc,
which were quite easily removed, and all was well.

Perhaps the hardest part is knowing how to gain access; once in
it may be simple to fix.

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On 09/10/16 22:41, charles wrote:
In article , GB
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?

no, just mentally impaired
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning


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In article , GB
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On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
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On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ********
you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes.
What have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?

no, just mentally impaired https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning


don't recognise any of the symptoms


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Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.


Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.

Not all areas. All of Cornwall and Devon has soft water, some other
areas have medium soft. There are also a few areas in the north that
have hard water. there are also a few pockets of the south that have
soft water, but generally, yes, the south has mainly hard.
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On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm

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On 10/10/2016 05:45, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 22:06:01 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


It's more E/W.

http://www.combimate.co.uk/images/up...rdwaterMap.jpg

Indeed, there are several areas in the north east that have hard water.


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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

The vast majority of Australians are descended from immigrants.
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On 10/10/2016 08:31, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 09/10/16 22:41, charles wrote:
In article , GB
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ********
you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes.
What have I suffered from in the last 76 years?

Lead poisoning, unfortunately.

So, I'm dead?

no, just mentally impaired https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning


don't recognise any of the symptoms


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no, just mentally impaired https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning


don't recognise any of the symptoms



That's how bad the mental impairment is ;-)


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On 10/10/16 09:04, Bod wrote:
On 09/10/2016 22:05, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.

Not all areas. All of Cornwall and Devon has soft water, some other
areas have medium soft. There are also a few areas in the north that
have hard water. there are also a few pockets of the south that have
soft water, but generally, yes, the south has mainly hard.


AS someone pointed out, its really an east west divide. Granite to the
west of the pennines and sometimes chalks and clays to the east.

Most of Wales, the west country, Cumbria and nearly all of scotland is soft.

Its the south east, well up as far as Lincoln and beyond that is all
limestone and chalk.




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On 10/10/16 09:20, Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 06:35, Rod Speed wrote:


"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 23:56:43 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote

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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

The vast majority of Australians are descended from immigrants.


ALL Australians are descended from immigrants.

Since the continent became separate before humans evolved.



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On 10/10/2016 08:31, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 09/10/16 22:41, charles wrote:
In article , GB
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ********
you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes.
What have I suffered from in the last 76 years?

Lead poisoning, unfortunately.

So, I'm dead?

no, just mentally impaired https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning


don't recognise any of the symptoms


You may not have reached the same potential. No way to tell.

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Some people worry about nothing. Funny how I keep seeing 100 year old
women in the news that drink and smoke.


Smokers have a 50% chance of dying from it.
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On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead pipes!
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 06:22:57 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"charles" wrote in message
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In article , GB
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 22:10, charles wrote:
In article , Roger Mills
wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap is now
"grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle. What a ******** you
must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I grew up in a soft water area and we definitely had lead pipes. What
have I suffered from in the last 76 years?


Lead poisoning, unfortunately.


So, I'm dead?


Just brain dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_p...onic_poisoning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_p...ts_on_children


Everything's bad for you, easiest to ignore all the propaganda.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!


I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm


Regular sex and red wine also do.

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