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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:45:02 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 22:06:01 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.


Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


It's more E/W.

http://www.combimate.co.uk/images/up...rdwaterMap.jpg


NW/SE.

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On 10/10/2016 15:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm


Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England and ...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html
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On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead pipes!
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On Monday, 10 October 2016 09:17:46 UTC+1, Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 05:45, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 22:06:01 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:00:25 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.

Soft water in Scotland too. The south has terrible water.


It's more E/W.

http://www.combimate.co.uk/images/up...rdwaterMap.jpg

Indeed, there are several areas in the north east that have hard water.


And Eastern Wales.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:12:56 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 15:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm


Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England and ....
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html


That's because people are more well off.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/

Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.


99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.


Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

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On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.


Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.


Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to solder a joint?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:59:44 +0100, GB wrote:

On 10/10/2016 02:06, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Some people worry about nothing. Funny how I keep seeing 100 year old
women in the news that drink and smoke.


Smokers have a 50% chance of dying from it.


But most of those would probably have died shortly afterwards anyway.

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On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


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Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.

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On 10/10/2016 17:18, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.

Yes, much neater.
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On 10/10/16 17:07, Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


I'm not a great plumber, but around 10 seconds to solder a joint, a
little more to flux it and steel wool it first. Say 30 second.

That's not what takes the time. It's deciding where the pipe is to go,
cutting it and bending it and holding it there.

Which is the same fr compression.

The real time saver is flexible plastic pipe . That is FAST.



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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:07:03 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong..
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


Compression fittings take virtually no time at all, and don't require equipment and heat and so forth to use. Some people just like to do things "the tradition correct way" without thinking.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:18:29 +0100, charles wrote:

In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.


More likely the plumber doesn't give a **** about future modifications. I've found it very handy to be able to remove one and change what goes into it.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:11 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 17:18, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.

Yes, much neater.


They're not normally visible anyway.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/10/16 17:07, Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


I'm not a great plumber, but around 10 seconds to solder a joint, a
little more to flux it and steel wool it first. Say 30 second.

That's not what takes the time. It's deciding where the pipe is to go,
cutting it and bending it and holding it there.

Which is the same fr compression.


For soldering you have to hold it there a lot longer than just tightening a screw thread.

The real time saver is flexible plastic pipe . That is FAST.


Indeed, that stuff is great.

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On 10/10/2016 06:35, Rod Speed wrote:


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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

The vast majority of Australians are descended from immigrants.


But most of them white.

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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.


WTF are you talking about?

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.


A small amount doesn't matter, but the amount that's happening now is an invasion.

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On 10/10/16 17:18, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.

simply pout a pipe cutter in and remove the section.

OR heat em up and knock em apart

you cant reuse a compression joint anyway. You need to cut the pipe and
use a new olive.



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In fact, you can see it on the PDF of the tap you posted. Part B3.


Yes, I had noticed that. But upon peering in, it looks like
it's missing!

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After my kitchen mixer has been in place about 7 years, both hot
and cold began to drip. I opened them up, more in hope than
expectation, but I found scale deposits on the ceramic disc,
which were quite easily removed, and all was well.


OTOH the other day I decided to descale the filter on the washing
machine. Darned thing started leaking afterwards... after a few
days it did stop, though.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:12:56 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 15:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm

Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England and ...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html


That's because people are more well off.


Nope, its primarily due to the **** you lot eat. Nothing to do with the
water.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years I've
been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to solder a
joint?


Less time than when using a compression fitting when you know what you are
doing.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:07:03 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


Compression fittings take virtually no time at all,


Same with soldered fittings.

and don't require equipment and heat and so forth to use.


Irrelevant to a plumber.

Some people just like to do things "the tradition correct way" without
thinking.


And any plumber with even half a clue knows that the time
to do the joint is only a tiny part of the total time to do the
job and is the same for a plumber with soldered joints and
compression fittings, with soldered ones much cheaper
and arent going to ever need to be replaced when done
by someone who knows what they are doing.

Compression fittings are for clowns like you that don't have a ****ing clue.



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On 10/10/16 17:07, Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it
doesn't.


I'm not a great plumber, but around 10 seconds to solder a joint, a
little more to flux it and steel wool it first. Say 30 second.

That's not what takes the time. It's deciding where the pipe is to go,
cutting it and bending it and holding it there.

Which is the same fr compression.


For soldering you have to hold it there a lot longer than just tightening
a screw thread.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The real time saver is flexible plastic pipe . That is FAST.


Indeed, that stuff is great.



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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 23:56:43 +0100, Rod Speed
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote

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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.


WTF are you talking about?


The fact that there are so many immigrants working for the NHS
that without them the entire operation wouldn't work at all.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.


A small amount doesn't matter, but the amount that's happening now is an
invasion.


You lot said that about all of the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Romans, Vikings,
Normans, Huguenots, Jews, Wogs, Dagos, Blacks, Browns, Yellows, etc etc etc.

Your ancestors were immigrants, wog boy.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:55:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/10/16 17:18, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bod wrote:
On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


They tend to look neater, too. However, they are not as easy to undo as a
compression fitting - but there again, you might never want to.

simply pout a pipe cutter in and remove the section.

OR heat em up and knock em apart

you cant reuse a compression joint anyway. You need to cut the pipe and
use a new olive.


You can reuse it, just not the olive.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:12:56 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 15:47, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm

Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England and ...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html


That's because people are more well off.


Nope, its primarily due to the **** you lot eat. Nothing to do with the
water.


Poorer people eat lower quality food.

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It's a myth.
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.


Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years I've
been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to solder a
joint?


Less time than when using a compression fitting when you know what you are
doing.


Bull****. Both involve cutting the pipe to the right length. After that you just screw the thing on.

--
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Spits out the feathers.


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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:07:03 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
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On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it doesn't.


Compression fittings take virtually no time at all,


Same with soldered fittings.

and don't require equipment and heat and so forth to use.


Irrelevant to a plumber.

Some people just like to do things "the tradition correct way" without
thinking.


And any plumber with even half a clue knows that the time
to do the joint is only a tiny part of the total time to do the
job and is the same for a plumber with soldered joints and
compression fittings, with soldered ones much cheaper
and arent going to ever need to be replaced when done
by someone who knows what they are doing.


Plumbers who have learnt how to do them want to make use of the pointless skill.

Compression fittings are for clowns like you that don't have a ****ing clue.


They last forever too.

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3: Try weakly
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
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On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've
been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to solder a
joint?


Less time than when using a compression fitting when you know what you
are
doing.


Bull****. Both involve cutting the pipe to the right length. After
that you just screw the thing on.

Peter, you don't know what you are talking about.
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Tim+ wrote:

In fact, you can see it on the PDF of the tap you posted. Part B3.


Yes, I had noticed that. But upon peering in, it looks like
it's missing!



Well it'll almost certainly be a hex socket head so it won't look like
much. Have you tried an Allen key down the hole?


Tim

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm

Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England and
...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html

That's because people are more well off.


Nope, its primarily due to the **** you lot eat. Nothing to do with the
water.


Poorer people eat lower quality food.


The dregs are too stupid to eat sensibly.

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On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry
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On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/


Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've
been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to solder a
joint?


Less time than when using a compression fitting when you know what you
are
doing.


Bull****.


Fact.

Both involve cutting the pipe to the right length. After that you just
screw the thing on.


Which takes longer than soldering it when you know what you are doing.
The soldered joint requires no support either.



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On 10/10/2016 16:58, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:44:30 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 10/10/2016 16:42, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:37:38 +0100, harry

wrote:

On Monday, 10 October 2016 15:47:11 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 05:43:18 +0100, Simon Mason

wrote:

On Sunday, 9 October 2016 21:58:23 UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J.
Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]

https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of
the past
for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead pipes!
--

100% Cu.

99% Cu, 1% CuO probably.


With lead solder.

Most plumbers use compression fittings, much quicker.

No they don't. Compression fittings are far more expensive and less
reliable.

Funny my house is ful of them and not one has failed in the 16 years
I've been here. As for expense, how much of your time is taken to
solder a joint?

You are very obviously not a plumber. I *know* 100% that you are wrong.
I used to use *end feed* fittings which are about a tenth of the price
of compression joints. Soldering a joint doesn't take much more time to
solder than using compression fittings. At least to a plumber it
doesn't.

Compression fittings take virtually no time at all,


Same with soldered fittings.

and don't require equipment and heat and so forth to use.


Irrelevant to a plumber.

Some people just like to do things "the tradition correct way" without
thinking.


And any plumber with even half a clue knows that the time
to do the joint is only a tiny part of the total time to do the
job and is the same for a plumber with soldered joints and
compression fittings, with soldered ones much cheaper
and arent going to ever need to be replaced when done
by someone who knows what they are doing.


Plumbers who have learnt how to do them want to make use of the pointless
skill.


They do what is cheapest and is the best technology.

Compression fittings are for clowns like you that don't have a ****ing
clue.


They last forever too.


Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never had a
****ing clue.

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:12:15 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 09/10/2016 22:10, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 09/10/2016 21:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 14:53:44 UTC+1, Fevric J. Glandules
wrote:
Hi,

we live in a very hard water area and the kitchen tap
is now "grinding" whenever used. It's one of these [1]
https://www.howdens.com/kitchen-coll...gle-level-tap/



Got a water softener last week for £1500 - that's a thing of the
past for me now.

Looked into the kettle today, clean as a whistle.
What a ******** you must live in.



If your water is that soft, let's hope that you haven't got any
lead
pipes!

I live in the superior north.
I've worked in the ******** of the south, looked into the
kettles in
hotels
and have been disgusted with what I saw in them.

BBC NEWS | Health | Hard water 'stops heart attacks'
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3396141.stm

Regular sex and red wine also do.


'The top 50 local areas with the highest male life expectancy at birth
were in the South East, East of England, South West, London and East
Midlands'

Life Expectancy at Birth and at Age 65 by Local Areas in England
and ...
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/.../li...e-2012-14.html


That's because people are more well off.

Nope, its primarily due to the **** you lot eat. Nothing to do with
the water.


Poorer people eat lower quality food.


The dregs are too stupid to eat sensibly.

If you shop sensibly, anybody can eat well on limited money.
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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.


We keep letting them in,


There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.


There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

The vast majority of Australians are descended from immigrants.


The vast majority of everyone are descended from immigrants.

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Got myself a new Jack Russell puppy, he's mainly black and
brown with a small white patch, so I've named him England.

Hilarious watching all those black, brown and yellow people
that Britain ****ed over for centurys all getting their revenge
now back in that soggy little frigid island, ****ing you lot over.

We keep letting them in,

There in no alternative. The NHS alone wouldn't survive without them.

we're fighting a war and we don't even realise it.

There is no war, just more of the immigration that has always
happened in that soggy little frigid island for millennia.

The vast majority of Australians are descended from immigrants.


The vast majority of everyone are descended from immigrants.

Agreed.
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That's how bad the mental impairment is ;-)


Surely, that's how bad the metal impairment is ;-)

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