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OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There
is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL |
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AnthonyL wrote:
OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? Our gas meter is also in the pantry and there is no airbrick or ventilation whatsoever. We have recently had the meter changed (routine scheduled change) and the fitters did not say anything about needing ventilation. AFAIK is only gas burning appliances that ate not room sealed need ventilation to the outside world. |
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On 09/02/16 19:10, Bob Minchin wrote:
AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? Our gas meter is also in the pantry and there is no airbrick or ventilation whatsoever. We have recently had the meter changed (routine scheduled change) and the fitters did not say anything about needing ventilation. AFAIK is only gas burning appliances that ate not room sealed need ventilation to the outside world. Lots of gas meters are under the stairs with no ventilation. I cannot say what the current regs are, but it has no more reason to leak than the rest of the gas pipework (which shouldn't leak at all). |
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AnthonyL wrote:
OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? You can take the airbrick out and plaster over it, unless you want ventilation in this area for some other reason. Gas meters have no need of ventilation, food used to before proper refrigeration, and this is what the pantry was originally built for, along with it's airbrick. |
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On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote:
OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. |
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On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:55:09 UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
On 09/02/16 19:10, Bob Minchin wrote: AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? Our gas meter is also in the pantry and there is no airbrick or ventilation whatsoever. We have recently had the meter changed (routine scheduled change) and the fitters did not say anything about needing ventilation. AFAIK is only gas burning appliances that ate not room sealed need ventilation to the outside world. Lots of gas meters are under the stairs with no ventilation. I cannot say what the current regs are, but it has no more reason to leak than the rest of the gas pipework (which shouldn't leak at all). Don't guess if you don't know. |
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"harry" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 About as relevant as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBT9VBTvMw -- Adam |
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harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. |
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:04:32 -0000, "Phil L"
wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. SWIMBO shall have her draught free dust free pantry - thanks (most of you) for your help. -- AnthonyL |
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On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote:
OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare |
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Yes indeed, when we had gas it was under the stairs with no ventilation.
The only thing I'd say is to be sure there are no leaks and that blocking it does not cause condensation issues, then get out the eve stik and stick something over it! Brian "Bob Minchin" wrote in message ... AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? Our gas meter is also in the pantry and there is no airbrick or ventilation whatsoever. We have recently had the meter changed (routine scheduled change) and the fitters did not say anything about needing ventilation. AFAIK is only gas burning appliances that ate not room sealed need ventilation to the outside world. -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! |
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On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote:
On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:50:25 -0800, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Because it's a pantry, idiot. |
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On 10/02/2016 09:56, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. You have clearly demonstrated that you lack the wits to determine whether the link you posted is likely to be relevant. -- Michael Chare |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Nope, it's a pantry. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Because it's a pantry. Even you should have notice that there is no air brick when the meter is under the stairs. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? -- AnthonyL |
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On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Voids don't have a six foot six inch door in them you thick ****. |
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On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. FWIW our small larder does have an airbrick. There is no gas supply where I live. -- Michael Chare |
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AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It has no effect on your situation, Harry hasn't got a clue. Almost everyone here lives in a 2 storey house, of those, the majority of them have at least 1 gas pipe running through the ceiling void, underneath their upstairs floorboards so to speak. Of that high number of properties, the gas pipe will go across the joists, from one 'void' to another and onto the next and so on until it reaches the boiler / kitchen / whatever. All of these voids would have to be ventilated by Harry's logic - there would be rows of exterior vent bricks at joist height on almost every two storey house in the country. I've never seen one yet, but he insists all gas pipes in a void need their own ventilation, he's got the wrong end of the stick, in fact, it's the wrong stick |
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Michael Chare wrote:
On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. FWIW our small larder does have an airbrick. There is no gas supply where I live. Well, in my early days the gas meter was under the stairs, no air brick. In my later days, the gas meter was also under the stairs, no air brick. In my a bit later days the gas meter was in the porch thigee, no air brick. Ditto for a few more years in other houses. In my present and probably my last home the gas meter is in a dead posh cupboard in the hall, no air brick. |
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Well, in my early days the gas meter was under the stairs, no air brick. In my later days, the gas meter was also under the stairs, no air brick. In my a bit later days the gas meter was in the porch thigee, no air brick. Ditto for a few more years in other houses. In my present and probably my last home the gas meter is in a dead posh cupboard in the hall, no air brick. Pretty much the same as 90% of the population then |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:02:51 UTC, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Voids don't have a six foot six inch door in them you thick ****. A void is any enclosed space. It's enclosed because there is a door ****-fer-brains. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:38:12 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Michael Chare wrote: On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. FWIW our small larder does have an airbrick. There is no gas supply where I live. Well, in my early days the gas meter was under the stairs, no air brick. In my later days, the gas meter was also under the stairs, no air brick. In my a bit later days the gas meter was in the porch thigee, no air brick. Ditto for a few more years in other houses. In my present and probably my last home the gas meter is in a dead posh cupboard in the hall, no air brick. If you look at a modern gas meter, it with be outside in a an enclosure that is ventilated. The electricity meter is in an identical box but unventilated. Gas meters/pipes in unventilated spaces are one reason we have gas explosions. And idiots blocking vents. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:49:54 UTC, Phil L wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Well, in my early days the gas meter was under the stairs, no air brick. In my later days, the gas meter was also under the stairs, no air brick. In my a bit later days the gas meter was in the porch thigee, no air brick. Ditto for a few more years in other houses. In my present and probably my last home the gas meter is in a dead posh cupboard in the hall, no air brick. Pretty much the same as 90% of the population then That type of installation no longer complies. And no it isn't. For the brain dead. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/13/made A "compound" BTW is the room the meter is in. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:08:01 UTC, Phil L wrote:
AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It has no effect on your situation, Harry hasn't got a clue. Almost everyone here lives in a 2 storey house, of those, the majority of them have at least 1 gas pipe running through the ceiling void, underneath their upstairs floorboards so to speak. Of that high number of properties, the gas pipe will go across the joists, from one 'void' to another and onto the next and so on until it reaches the boiler / kitchen / whatever. All of these voids would have to be ventilated by Harry's logic - there would be rows of exterior vent bricks at joist height on almost every two storey house in the country. I've never seen one yet, but he insists all gas pipes in a void need their own ventilation, he's got the wrong end of the stick, in fact, it's the wrong stick Well **** fer brains, you have hit on the reason we get gas explosions blowing buildings up. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 12:55:00 UTC, Michael Chare wrote:
On 10/02/2016 09:56, harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. You have clearly demonstrated that you lack the wits to determine whether the link you posted is likely to be relevant. -- Michael Chare Why don't you just ****ing read it? And yes, it applies to us all. And, these rules are legally enforceable. And if you had an explosion, it would be the ideal excuse for the insurance not to pay out. And yes, there would be an investigation to determine the cause. I can't abide idiots. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:17:50 UTC, Blanco wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Nope, it's a pantry. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Because it's a pantry. Even you should have notice that there is no air brick when the meter is under the stairs. You have hit on the reason we get gas explosions in peoples houses. See my other post. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:02:51 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Voids don't have a six foot six inch door in them you thick ****. A void is any enclosed space. It's enclosed because there is a door Plenty of voids don't have any door. ****-fer-brains. Your sig is sposed to have a line with just -- on it in front of it. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:17:50 UTC, Blanco wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:01:44 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Tuesday, 9 February 2016 17:47:21 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? -- AnthonyL All closed spaces where there are gas pipe have to be ventilated. Completely false. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1...lation/19/made Paragraph 6 This is to dissipate accumulations of gas if there should be a leak. Where any installation pipework is not itself contained in a ventilated duct, no person shall install any installation pipework in any shaft, duct or void which is not adequately ventilated. A pantry, like a kitchen, living room or cupboard under the stairs, isn't a shaft, duct or void. It's a void ****-fer-brains. Nope, it's a pantry. Why do you think the air brick is there in the first place? Because it's a pantry. Even you should have notice that there is no air brick when the meter is under the stairs. You have hit on the reason we get gas explosions in peoples houses. Nope. See my other post. Completely useless, as always with your mindless silly ****. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:38:12 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Michael Chare wrote: On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. FWIW our small larder does have an airbrick. There is no gas supply where I live. Well, in my early days the gas meter was under the stairs, no air brick. In my later days, the gas meter was also under the stairs, no air brick. In my a bit later days the gas meter was in the porch thigee, no air brick. Ditto for a few more years in other houses. In my present and probably my last home the gas meter is in a dead posh cupboard in the hall, no air brick. If you look at a modern gas meter, it with be outside in a an enclosure that is ventilated. The electricity meter is in an identical box but unventilated. Gas meters/pipes in unventilated spaces are one reason we have gas explosions. And idiots blocking vents. My gas supply was very recently replaced, and checked to the latest standards by National Grid. The meter is in the sealed unventilated garage, which is part of the house. You're talking crap again. |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 12:55:00 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 10/02/2016 09:56, harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. You have clearly demonstrated that you lack the wits to determine whether the link you posted is likely to be relevant. -- Michael Chare Why don't you just ****ing read it? And yes, it applies to us all. And, these rules are legally enforceable. And if you had an explosion, it would be the ideal excuse for the insurance not to pay out. And yes, there would be an investigation to determine the cause. I can't abide idiots. Mirror? |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:08:50 +0000, Michael Chare
wrote: On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:11:13 -0000, "Phil L" wrote: It has no effect on your situation, Harry hasn't got a clue. I sort of was hoping for Harry to respond. He surely must know about all this have made such clear pronouncement following his two minute gas expert googling course? -- AnthonyL |
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On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:08:01 UTC, Phil L wrote: Almost everyone here lives in a 2 storey house, of those, the majority of them have at least 1 gas pipe running through the ceiling void, underneath their upstairs floorboards so to speak. Of that high number of properties, the gas pipe will go across the joists, from one 'void' to another and onto the next and so on until it reaches the boiler / kitchen / whatever. All of these voids would have to be ventilated by Harry's logic - there would be rows of exterior vent bricks at joist height on almost every two storey house in the country. I've never seen one yet, but he insists all gas pipes in a void need their own ventilation, he's got the wrong end of the stick, in fact, it's the wrong stick Well **** fer brains, you have hit on the reason we get gas explosions blowing buildings up. Get a grip you ****ing clown. There's thousands of building sites all over the country building houses without underfloor vents, are you trying to suggest that they are all breaking the law? How are they all able to remain in buisness? You've misunderstood your own (incorrect) link and are now making yourself look an even bigger moron than most realised |
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On Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46:18 UTC, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:08:01 UTC, Phil L wrote: Almost everyone here lives in a 2 storey house, of those, the majority of them have at least 1 gas pipe running through the ceiling void, underneath their upstairs floorboards so to speak. Of that high number of properties, the gas pipe will go across the joists, from one 'void' to another and onto the next and so on until it reaches the boiler / kitchen / whatever. All of these voids would have to be ventilated by Harry's logic - there would be rows of exterior vent bricks at joist height on almost every two storey house in the country. I've never seen one yet, but he insists all gas pipes in a void need their own ventilation, he's got the wrong end of the stick, in fact, it's the wrong stick Well **** fer brains, you have hit on the reason we get gas explosions blowing buildings up. Get a grip you ****ing clown. There's thousands of building sites all over the country building houses without underfloor vents, are you trying to suggest that they are all breaking the law? How are they all able to remain in buisness? You've misunderstood your own (incorrect) link and are now making yourself look an even bigger moron than most realised Modern houses do not have suspended timber floors and the VENTILATED meter box is outside ****-fer-brains. |
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On Thursday, 11 February 2016 12:49:07 UTC, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:08:50 +0000, Michael Chare wrote: On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:11:13 -0000, "Phil L" wrote: It has no effect on your situation, Harry hasn't got a clue. I sort of was hoping for Harry to respond. He surely must know about all this have made such clear pronouncement following his two minute gas expert googling course? Look at the meter boxes ****-fer-brains. The door has top and bottom ventilation. |
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On 11/02/2016 19:59, harry wrote:
Modern houses do not have suspended timber floors and the VENTILATED meter box is outside ****-fer-brains. No, most of them around here have beam and block floors. |
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:03:50 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote: On Thursday, 11 February 2016 12:49:07 UTC, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:08:50 +0000, Michael Chare wrote: On 10/02/2016 19:26, AnthonyL wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:32 -0800 (PST), harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 01:14:13 UTC, Michael Chare wrote: On 09/02/2016 17:47, AnthonyL wrote: OUr gas meter is at high level in the pantry of our bungalow. There is an airbrick at about 4' height which introduces quite a lot of cold air and dust/dirt and SWIMBO would like to block it off. Google isn't clear. What and where are the regs applying to it and more simply can I put a piece of card in front of the airbrick? The air brick may be because the space is a pantry, and perhaps needs to be kept cool, rather than because of the presence of the gas meter. -- Michael Chare You are full of crap. http://www.fulcrum.co.uk/expertise/f...16-or-greater/ The ventilation has to be 2% of the ground area of the place the meter is enclosed in. It took me two minute to find the above. It's half wits like you causes gas explosions. Could you clarify how the above url applies to my situation? It is very possible that your meter is not large enough to need a vent See https://www.bes.co.uk/products/030.asp for example. On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:11:13 -0000, "Phil L" wrote: It has no effect on your situation, Harry hasn't got a clue. I sort of was hoping for Harry to respond. He surely must know about all this have made such clear pronouncement following his two minute gas expert googling course? Look at the meter boxes ****-fer-brains. The door has top and bottom ventilation. That is avoiding my question with regard to the U16 or greater specification that you cited. -- AnthonyL |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46:18 UTC, Phil L wrote: harry wrote: On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:08:01 UTC, Phil L wrote: Almost everyone here lives in a 2 storey house, of those, the majority of them have at least 1 gas pipe running through the ceiling void, underneath their upstairs floorboards so to speak. Of that high number of properties, the gas pipe will go across the joists, from one 'void' to another and onto the next and so on until it reaches the boiler / kitchen / whatever. All of these voids would have to be ventilated by Harry's logic - there would be rows of exterior vent bricks at joist height on almost every two storey house in the country. I've never seen one yet, but he insists all gas pipes in a void need their own ventilation, he's got the wrong end of the stick, in fact, it's the wrong stick Well **** fer brains, you have hit on the reason we get gas explosions blowing buildings up. Get a grip you ****ing clown. There's thousands of building sites all over the country building houses without underfloor vents, are you trying to suggest that they are all breaking the law? How are they all able to remain in buisness? You've misunderstood your own (incorrect) link and are now making yourself look an even bigger moron than most realised Modern houses do not have suspended timber floors Plenty of them do you pig ignorant clown. |
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On Friday, 12 February 2016 01:24:02 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... Modern houses do not have suspended timber floors Plenty of them do Not, I think you will find, in the UK. At least, not on the ground floor (where the gas pipes are most likely to be). Suspended timber makes it hard to meet the insulation requirements. (Obviously, it's *possible*, but there are cheaper and easier ways to do it.) |
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