On 15/01/15 15:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
No one yet, apart from government, but just research what radical Islam
*wants* to enforce here

And likely everywhere else in the world. No different from other nutters
who have different religions.

Oh - and of course all those missionaries sent out from the UK not so long
ago. To 'civilise' heathens.

Obviously failed miserably in your case....

--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 15/01/15 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Re-writing history again Harry?

Nope. You are in this case.


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

Bob Henson wrote in
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On 15/01/2015 1:57 pm, Tim Watts wrote:
On 15/01/15 13:49, stuart noble wrote:

I've lost interest in comedy altogether. Always seems to me to be a
veiled attack on someone else, invariably by a thoroughly nasty
piece of work with close set eyes. Gags are dull and they've all
been done before. Laughter may be just some kind of nervous kneejerk
reaction to stress. I prefer smiling.
The moral maze is tricky one, but we went over to their place first
and we sure as hell weren't bothered about their customs. What we're
suffering could be seen as the last straw. I've never had a child
killed by a drone, so I hesitate to say how I might feel, or which
god I might pray to.

You can't win.

There are some comedians or comedies who/which are true genius -
Blackadder, although that did have a serious dig at a) peasants; b)
the Church; c) the Turks/French/Spanish

My favourites of all time:

Blackadder;

Monty Python;

Benny Hill (usually pilloried for being sexist, but I don't care)

Paul Hogan (see Benny Hill)

Ben Elton doing stand up;

Michael Mcintyre;



I'm hard pressed to pick a "top ten" list of funny men/women, but I'll
have a stab at it.

Victor Borge (Easy - top by a mile)
Bill Bailey * (Also an easy decision)
Bob Newhart
Milton Jones *
Omid Djalili *
Micky Flanagan
Adam Hills *
Les Dawson
Blaster Bates
Tim Vine

Now I've typed those I'm still not sure which are my favourites, other
than the top three. There are no women in the list, but that doesn't
mean I don't enjoy women comics, they just don't make my top ten. The
ladies list starts:-

Victoria Wood
Joan Rivers
Shappi Khorsandi *


All the ones, male or female, with * asterisks, I've seen recently on
stage - along with quite a few others.

I suspect there are as many lists of favourite comics as there are
people.







Blaster Bates. Crikey you are showing your age. Have you got his LPs?

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On 15/01/15 15:55, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message


My favourites of all time:

Blackadder;

Monty Python;

Benny Hill (usually pilloried for being sexist, but I don't care)

Paul Hogan (see Benny Hill)

Ben Elton doing stand up;

Michael Mcintyre;

I've never heard of the last three, but +1 on the others.


Ok - Paul Hogan - apart from "Crocodile Dundee", "The Paul Hogan Show" was
once of the launch pins of Channel 4 because it was fresh and a bit
"naughty" and they managed to say "******" on evening TV (there was a
hapless stuntman played by Hogan called Leo ******).

Ben Elton is responsible for writing quite a bit of comedy, including some
of the Blackadders and The Young Ones. But he did limited stand up too.

Michael McIntyre is very "now" - very Dave Allen in style but with less
religion - turns everyday happenings into a stream.

I remember watching Crocodile Dundee. Hogan is not the typical Australian,
they are little weeds that love to swear a lot and are not very bright.
Credits to Elton for contributing to Blackadder. I used to like Dave Allen.

On 15/01/2015 11:43, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Humour is very personal. I have a long list of so-called "comedians" who
I find utterly unfunny; Reeves & Mortimer, Ben Elton and Ricky Gervais
for starters.


Please add Sarah Jane Millican right at the very pinnacle of
unfunniness. Even above Al Murray and Count Arthur Strong.

--
Rod

On 15/01/2015 5:09 pm, DerbyBorn wrote:
Bob Henson wrote in
:

On 15/01/2015 1:57 pm, Tim Watts wrote:
On 15/01/15 13:49, stuart noble wrote:

I've lost interest in comedy altogether. Always seems to me to be a
veiled attack on someone else, invariably by a thoroughly nasty
piece of work with close set eyes. Gags are dull and they've all
been done before. Laughter may be just some kind of nervous kneejerk
reaction to stress. I prefer smiling.
The moral maze is tricky one, but we went over to their place first
and we sure as hell weren't bothered about their customs. What we're
suffering could be seen as the last straw. I've never had a child
killed by a drone, so I hesitate to say how I might feel, or which
god I might pray to.

You can't win.

There are some comedians or comedies who/which are true genius -
Blackadder, although that did have a serious dig at a) peasants; b)
the Church; c) the Turks/French/Spanish

My favourites of all time:

Blackadder;

Monty Python;

Benny Hill (usually pilloried for being sexist, but I don't care)

Paul Hogan (see Benny Hill)

Ben Elton doing stand up;

Michael Mcintyre;



I'm hard pressed to pick a "top ten" list of funny men/women, but I'll
have a stab at it.

Victor Borge (Easy - top by a mile)
Bill Bailey * (Also an easy decision)
Bob Newhart
Milton Jones *
Omid Djalili *
Micky Flanagan
Adam Hills *
Les Dawson
Blaster Bates
Tim Vine

Now I've typed those I'm still not sure which are my favourites, other
than the top three. There are no women in the list, but that doesn't
mean I don't enjoy women comics, they just don't make my top ten. The
ladies list starts:-

Victoria Wood
Joan Rivers
Shappi Khorsandi *


All the ones, male or female, with * asterisks, I've seen recently on
stage - along with quite a few others.

I suspect there are as many lists of favourite comics as there are
people.







Blaster Bates. Crikey you are showing your age. Have you got his LPs?


Yes. They're available on CDs now, so I replaced my old tape recordings
a while back.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Why is there only one Competition Commission?

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:09:58 GMT
DerbyBorn wrote:

Blaster Bates. Crikey you are showing your age.

I remember him! At about the same time as Derek and Clive.

My main memories of Blaster Bates a

"The Shower of **** over Shropshire" ("he had gossamer wings")

and his description of being in the way of advancing hunt horses:

".. and they don't have Ferodo, you know!".

Happy memories of student days.

--
Davey.

On 15/01/2015 15:52, Mr Pounder wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.

I had to look this guy up as I had never heard of him. Oh yes, this is a guy
that says "****ing" a lot. Yup, dumb Britain will give him plenty of votes.



Murray was educated at Bedford School before going up to St Edmund
Hall, Oxford, graduating with the degree of MA in Modern History



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/01/2015 10:19, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.


You clearly have a sense of humour failure :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/01/2015 16:08, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Mr Pounder
wrote:

"Bod" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 15:24, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he
was?

Seems like it.

Nope, I had to.

and I would have needed to, except that I don't give a monkey's.

I needed to find out who was being talked about. Then I wished that I had
not bothered.


I have tickets to go and see him live - Xmas pressie - can't wait

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/01/2015 15:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/01/15 15:24, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he
was?

yes. I didn't even bother to look him up. I haven't found any comedian
funny in years.


That probably says more about you than current comedians.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/01/2015 11:56, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:48, Huge wrote:

An acquaintance was trying to convince me of your position a few weeks
ago. I
then pointed out that she was sitting, with her face uncovered, in a pub,
drinking alcohol with a number of men unrelated to her. A situation which
would earn her 1000 lashes in some parts of the world.

(* Fit In or **** Off.)

Well, she would not do it in those parts of the world, then, would she?
She'd FIFO.

I can't see anything intrinsically wrong with laws banning alcohol or
prescribing particular dress codes. Try walking nude down Oxford Street
if you really think there are no dress codes in this country.


It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/01/15 17:03, whisky-dave wrote:

it might not be possible, there was a case where a muslim women
didn;t want to serve alchol to anyonme put she woprked at checkout.
Yes of course you could have a non-alchol isle but I don;t think
that's a good idea.

I think that means she can't do tills. Or shelf stacking. Which limits
her options somewhat. I think she's silly, but there you go. It's a long
way between getting pork juice on your hands and touching a glass/metal
object that happens to contain alcohol. Especially when sufi muslims
don't seem to bothered about beer at least (I know a sufi guy - he
drinks beer but not spirits).

I personally am very happy to draw the line there because it's gone from
"no real hassle to accomodate" to PITA.

This is why I compared a supermarket with a butcher. The latter
cannot accommodate anti-porcine wishes without changing their
entire practise. A supermarket can trivially say "OK, you can do
shelf, tills and veg".

it can but when on the tills you might have to handle the meat that's
in bags. If teh supwermarket allows vegitarians not to shel;f meat
and vegans not to touch what they don;t want to fine. But these
things are all just beliefs. Anyone can have beliefs.

I've not met any vegetarians (change of word intentional) that
physically won't handle meat - might be some, but if so, they are
definitely rare.


If there is such a job. I doubt the companies that clean windows have
two sets of employeees one for ground floor and then everyone else.

If the company is nowt but a window cleaner, maybe. But the company
might well handle other cleaning. It's the butcher vs supermarket thing
again.


I'm not so sure it is a balance. Yopu set laws a rules for those
that are inhabiting the country rather than for teh benifit of
those that don't.


All I;m saying is I have no problems with low cost accommodations
-

Are you refering to those that are renting out garden sheds as houses
?

No I mean "it is no real effort to accomodate their wishes"

it's when people want to change everything it becomes untenable.

It's happening with halal meat, nothing wrong with that until you
suspect or realsie the reason halal meat is being sold isn't really
down to religion but cost. You don't need all the checks in place for
the non cruelty of animals and you'll find of allowed, the hygena
also suffers. Some halal butchers are fine and are clean while others
leave a lot to be desired and I bet they ARE breaking the law.

https://www.facebook.com/BOYCOTTxHAL...86648021467082

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 15:52, Mr Pounder wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.

I had to look this guy up as I had never heard of him. Oh yes, this is a
guy
that says "****ing" a lot. Yup, dumb Britain will give him plenty of
votes.



Murray was educated at Bedford School before going up to St Edmund Hall,
Oxford, graduating with the degree of MA in Modern History

I have little time for "entertainers" who keep saying ****. I have little
time for people who think that saying **** is clever; thus I have little
time for the dumb British public.





--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

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On 15/01/2015 16:08, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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In article , Mr Pounder
wrote:

"Bod" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 15:24, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he
was?

Seems like it.

Nope, I had to.

and I would have needed to, except that I don't give a monkey's.

I needed to find out who was being talked about. Then I wished that I had
not bothered.


I have tickets to go and see him live - Xmas pressie - can't wait

Somethings should be kept to yourself.





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On 15/01/2015 15:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/01/15 15:24, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he
was?

yes. I didn't even bother to look him up. I haven't found any comedian
funny in years.


That probably says more about you than current comedians.

He must be like me, high standards.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

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On 15/01/2015 11:56, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:48, Huge wrote:

An acquaintance was trying to convince me of your position a few weeks
ago. I
then pointed out that she was sitting, with her face uncovered, in a
pub,
drinking alcohol with a number of men unrelated to her. A situation
which
would earn her 1000 lashes in some parts of the world.

(* Fit In or **** Off.)

Well, she would not do it in those parts of the world, then, would she?
She'd FIFO.

I can't see anything intrinsically wrong with laws banning alcohol or
prescribing particular dress codes. Try walking nude down Oxford Street
if you really think there are no dress codes in this country.


It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers at
all.

But it is still okay for them to sell it from their corner shops.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 09:15, john james wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/15 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I can recall many Years ago there was some problem due to a clock
that had
Jesus on the cross on it and the chime was every hour little men came
out
and hammered in the nails for the hours.
The world has not ended since then, and most people, although they
find it
in bad taste or gross, realise that its just dark humour.
So yes, in many ways people are entitled to be annoyed even
outraged, but
not go around doing people harm over bad humour. At tg that rate,
Bernard
Manning would never have lived past his 30 birthday.
Brian


My view is:

If your god is unable to deal with mockers and thus you feel the need
to avenge on his behalf, then you need a new god...

Applies to all religions where people get in a tizzy about stuff...

It's got nothing to do with gods. It's actually about fools that are
actually
stupid enough to end up dead for something as trivial as that.

I think you may have missed my point...

You're wrong.

"GB" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 11:25, stuart noble wrote:

Given what's going on in the world, I don't think I'd be lampooning the
prophet. It may well be as offensive to many as a cartoon of Jimmy
Saville buggering a disabled toddler might be to us. Just because we in
the west have abandoned religion in favour of shopping, doesn't mean
other people don't feel strongly about it, and doesn't stop a handful of
nutters gravitating towards a cause that allows them to kill people.
When psychopaths have god on their side, you're in big trouble.

My thoughts exactly. We need to live in harmony with our neighbours, and
making fun of things they hold dear is not the way to go about it.

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

On 15/01/2015 13:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.


He would get my vote if I lived there.

http://thepublandlord.com/

--
Colin Bignell

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 11:12, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
I can recall many Years ago there was some problem due to a clock that
had Jesus on the cross on it and the chime was every hour little men
came out and hammered in the nails for the hours. The world has not
ended since then, and most people, although they find it in bad taste or
gross, realise that its just dark humour. So yes, in many ways people
are entitled to be annoyed even outraged, but not go around doing
people harm over bad humour. At tg that rate, Bernard Manning would
never have lived past his 30 birthday.

It's not that long ago Mary Whitehouse initiated a trial of Gay News for
blasphemy in the UK.

Although I don't think she represented the majority even at that time -
and she herself became a subject of comedy.

It's not just Moslems who don't want anything they don't like said about
anything to do with their religion. Even more so in the US.

And Africa.

And (although not targetted at me) *I'm* generally careful to blame
"religion" as a whole as the christians have been just as bad as the
muslims

Worse in some ways when they are burning each other at the stake
even in places like Britain.

(and still are in the whackier parts of the USA and Africa).

I dare say even the followers of the Roman, Greek and Norse gods did their
bit to "educate" unbelievers.


Freedom of speech usually means 'my right to criticise you' Commonly, not
the other way round, too.


I'm all for that. I've noticed the only group who get the **** taken out
of them on TV are gingers (Citizen Khan, target Dave the white
ginger-haired mosque manager) and maybe some slight ribbing in Dr Who (Amy
Pond).

Is that because gingers don't have an effective lobbying group?

On 15/01/15 19:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

the salient fact that it is seldom members of the islamic community who
provide the leads about terrorists who have operated in their midst.


Can you be sure of that?

Given that it is likely some of the grooming groups meet after prayers
in special little groups round the back of the mosque by invite only,
it's quite possible the congregation at large have not concrete
knowledge of what's going on.

The likes of Anjem Choudry might be happy to preach sharia in public and
be generally outspoken but I doubt he is stupid enough to tell the
congregation "death to the infidel" and "for more info, pop round back
at 8:30 where we'll have tea and a few videos from our brothers in Syria..."

On 15/01/15 19:42, Mr Pounder wrote:

Aww well now then! They don't get the hump when you drink alcohol in your
country in front of them. You have changed my entire view of these ****s.

I hate to break it to you, but not every non white non yorkshireman is a
tosser

On 15/01/15 19:21, Mr Pounder wrote:

I have little time for "entertainers" who keep saying ****. I have little
time for people who think that saying **** is clever; thus I have little
time for the dumb British public.


Yep.

Everyone on TV who was funny in the 70s-80s somehow managed to be as
funny as **** (sorry) without saying "****" once.

****ing showoffs...

On 15/01/15 19:42, john james wrote:

My view is:

If your god is unable to deal with mockers and thus you feel the need
to avenge on his behalf, then you need a new god...

Applies to all religions where people get in a tizzy about stuff...

It's got nothing to do with gods. It's actually about fools that are
actually
stupid enough to end up dead for something as trivial as that.

I think you may have missed my point...

You're wrong.

No...

My point was that these "gods" are the invention of man and thus the
stupidity is not with "god" but with the twit who thinks it's worth
killing someone over...

"stuart noble" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 13:13, Bob Henson wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:43 am, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Humour is very personal. I have a long list of so-called "comedians"
who
I find utterly unfunny; Reeves & Mortimer, Ben Elton and Ricky Gervais
for starters.



My list is not very long, but Al Murray and your three are high on the
list, along with Noel Fielding.


I've lost interest in comedy altogether. Always seems to me to be a veiled
attack on someone else, invariably by a thoroughly nasty piece of work
with close set eyes.

Hard to claim that about Billy Connelly or John Cleese.

Gags are dull and they've all been done before.

You can say that about any fiction.

Laughter may be just some kind of nervous kneejerk reaction to stress. I
prefer smiling.

The moral maze is tricky one, but we went over to their place first and we
sure as hell weren't bothered about their customs. What we're suffering
could be seen as the last straw. I've never had a child killed by a drone,

Plenty did in WW2.

so I hesitate to say how I might feel, or which god I might pray to.

I know I wouldn’t be grovelling to any god.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 19:21, Mr Pounder wrote:

I have little time for "entertainers" who keep saying ****. I have little
time for people who think that saying **** is clever; thus I have little
time for the dumb British public.


Yep.

Everyone on TV who was funny in the 70s-80s somehow managed to be as funny
as **** (sorry) without saying "****" once.

****ing showoffs...

It was called talent.

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On 15/01/2015 13:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.


He would get my vote if I lived there.

http://thepublandlord.com/

Hmmm, come to think of it ....................

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 19:42, Mr Pounder wrote:

Aww well now then! They don't get the hump when you drink alcohol in your
country in front of them. You have changed my entire view of these ****s.

I hate to break it to you, but not every non white non yorkshireman is a
tosser

You will never be certain of that.
Where abouts in Yorkshire are ye?

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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Well, if one thing has come of this, *everyone* is talking about stuff
now - resentments, annoyances are all coming out into the open.

If this can be used to good effect for all "sides",

Trouble is that it can't.

then maybe the
deaths of the Charlie Hebdo staff will not have been in vain.

On 15/01/15 20:28, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 19:42, Mr Pounder wrote:

Aww well now then! They don't get the hump when you drink alcohol in your
country in front of them. You have changed my entire view of these ****s.

I hate to break it to you, but not every non white non yorkshireman is a
tosser

You will never be certain of that.
Where abouts in Yorkshire are ye?



I'm in East Sussex.

No it's not next to Essex. But I lived in N Yorkshire once.

On 15/01/2015 19:08, The Medway Handyman wrote:

It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.


I take it that you are not exactly a Teetotal veggie, then? Plenty of
those around, though, and many of them simply choose that lifestyle for
non-religious reasons.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
[2] I think it is perfectly reasonable for a jew or a muslim to work in
a supermarket and ask not to do meat counter duties as touching pork is
more than he can stand - because it's relatively simple to accommodate.
Not much different to accommodating someone with a shellfish allergy.

It would be totally unreasonable in my view for said person to apply to
work in a butcher's shop and then demand all pork is removed and no
longer sold. He may however ask to be supplied with working gloves to
avoid "touching" the stuff. That means you, Oxford University Press![3]
Ditto I would not expect a person with a shellfish allergy to be wanting
to work in a sushi kitchen.

Yet we banned smoking totally in places like pubs regardless of the
opinions of those who worked there. Allegedly to protect those working
there.

A health risk is different to a moral preference.

On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them, although many might think the cartoons were offensive -
not to say puerile and unfunny.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 14:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
My thoughts exactly. We need to live in harmony with our neighbours,
and making fun of things they hold dear is not the way to go about it.

And will they return the favour?

We're never likely to find out. Not while we consider the middle east to
be ours to interfere with as we see fit.

That may be your attitude, but it isn't mine and hasn't been the West's
since WWII

It has actually with Iraq, twice and with Afghanistan as well.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he was?

Nope, I did too.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Frankly, if someone hates me, tries to take everything I have, and
enforces a code of conduct on me that I think is insane and will make my
life nasty, brutish and short, its all very well saying I must respect
his position, if as long as I respect it while I drive a bayonet through
his throat.

Which is exactly what started things off centuries ago. Think Crusaders
and so on. Followed by tit for tat ever since.

Mmmm not quite. It could be argued that the Muslim lands only became so
due to extensive conquest

Yes.

and putting people to the sword if they didn't convert.

That isn't what happened.

The Crusaders went there (nominally, at least) to reclaim Jerusalem from
the invader.

On 15/01/2015 20:16, Tim Watts wrote:
On 15/01/15 19:21, Mr Pounder wrote:

I have little time for "entertainers" who keep saying ****. I have little
time for people who think that saying **** is clever; thus I have little
time for the dumb British public.


Yep.

Everyone on TV who was funny in the 70s-80s somehow managed to be as
funny as **** (sorry) without saying "****" once.

****ing showoffs...

Though some, such as Dave Allen, did goon later to do so:

His final series for the BBC in 1990 caused controversy with a joke: "We
spend our lives on the run. We get up by the clock, eat and sleep by the
clock, go to work by the clock, get up again, go to work – and then we
retire. And what do they ****ing give us? A clock.

Though broadcast (which would have been unlikely in the 70s), it did
cause problems.

--
Rod

"harryagain" wrote in message
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 14:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
My thoughts exactly. We need to live in harmony with our neighbours,
and making fun of things they hold dear is not the way to go about it.

And will they return the favour?

We're never likely to find out. Not while we consider the middle east to
be ours to interfere with as we see fit.


+1

The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Corse no non socialists ever did anything like that, eh ?

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Re-writing history again Harry?

Nope. You are in this case.

Blair wasnt PM at the time of the first gulf war.