"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 11:56, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:48, Huge wrote:

An acquaintance was trying to convince me of your position a few weeks
ago. I
then pointed out that she was sitting, with her face uncovered, in a
pub,
drinking alcohol with a number of men unrelated to her. A situation
which
would earn her 1000 lashes in some parts of the world.

(* Fit In or **** Off.)

Well, she would not do it in those parts of the world, then, would she?
She'd FIFO.

I can't see anything intrinsically wrong with laws banning alcohol or
prescribing particular dress codes. Try walking nude down Oxford Street
if you really think there are no dress codes in this country.


It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers at
all.

Yeah, you do have to wonder about stuff like that.

Same with the religions that demand
you hack the end off your kids dicks too.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 19:42, john james wrote:

My view is:

If your god is unable to deal with mockers and thus you feel the need
to avenge on his behalf, then you need a new god...

Applies to all religions where people get in a tizzy about stuff...

It's got nothing to do with gods. It's actually about fools that are
actually
stupid enough to end up dead for something as trivial as that.

I think you may have missed my point...

You're wrong.

No...

Yes...

My point was that these "gods" are the invention of man and thus the
stupidity is not with "god" but with the twit who thinks it's worth
killing someone over...

I didn’t miss that point.

"GB" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them,

I don’t believe that.

although many might think the cartoons were offensive - not to say puerile
and unfunny.

Sure, but I'm sure some do support the executions.

On 15/01/2015 21:53, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and
law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them,

I don’t believe that.

although many might think the cartoons were offensive - not to say
puerile and unfunny.

Sure, but I'm sure some do support the executions.

Well, if you already know the answer, I can't quite see why you said "It
would be interesting to know just how many..."? You have prejudged the
issue, and you are not really interested in an alternative view.

"polygonum" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 20:16, Tim Watts wrote:
On 15/01/15 19:21, Mr Pounder wrote:

I have little time for "entertainers" who keep saying ****. I have
little
time for people who think that saying **** is clever; thus I have little
time for the dumb British public.


Yep.

Everyone on TV who was funny in the 70s-80s somehow managed to be as
funny as **** (sorry) without saying "****" once.

****ing showoffs...

Though some, such as Dave Allen, did goon later to do so:

His final series for the BBC in 1990 caused controversy with a joke: "We
spend our lives on the run. We get up by the clock, eat and sleep by the
clock, go to work by the clock, get up again, go to work – and then we
retire. And what do they ****ing give us? A clock.

Though broadcast (which would have been unlikely in the 70s), it did cause
problems.

He was quite correct.

On 15/01/15 21:25, john james wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Re-writing history again Harry?

Nope. You are in this case.

Blair wasnt PM at the time of the first gulf war.

But he was during the second


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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GB explained :
On 15/01/2015 01:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quite. Not sure who is the better comedian.


I find Al Murray excruciating. I saw his show, and I simply left.
Everybody else was loving it.

Am I the only one, who had to look up 'Al Murray', to find out who he
was?

Nope, I did too.

He is what the dumb Brits think as being funny because he says ****.
Reading a post from someone who likes him makes me feel dead intelligent.
Dumb Britain.

On 15/01/2015 19:54, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 15/01/2015 13:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.


He would get my vote if I lived there.

http://thepublandlord.com/

Latest odds;

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Manston Airport Party
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"john james" wrote in message
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Frankly, if someone hates me, tries to take everything I have, and
enforces a code of conduct on me that I think is insane and will make
my life nasty, brutish and short, its all very well saying I must
respect his position, if as long as I respect it while I drive a
bayonet through his throat.

Which is exactly what started things off centuries ago. Think Crusaders
and so on. Followed by tit for tat ever since.

Mmmm not quite. It could be argued that the Muslim lands only became so
due to extensive conquest

Yes.

and putting people to the sword if they didn't convert.

That isn't what happened.

The Crusaders went there (nominally, at least) to reclaim Jerusalem from
the invader.

So who gives a ****?

He is what the dumb Brits think as being funny because he says ****.
Reading a post from someone who likes him makes me feel dead intelligent.
Dumb Britain.




Almost as sad as those who laugh at Mrs Brown's Boys when she/he says
"Fecking"

On 15/01/2015 20:34, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 19:08, The Medway Handyman wrote:

It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.


I take it that you are not exactly a Teetotal veggie, then?


Errrm. No.

Plenty of
those around, though, and many of them simply choose that lifestyle for
non-religious reasons.

People choose not to eat bacon & drink beer?



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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 20:28, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 19:42, Mr Pounder wrote:

Aww well now then! They don't get the hump when you drink alcohol in
your
country in front of them. You have changed my entire view of these
****s.

I hate to break it to you, but not every non white non yorkshireman is a
tosser

You will never be certain of that.
Where abouts in Yorkshire are ye?



I'm in East Sussex.

No it's not next to Essex. But I lived in N Yorkshire once.

Ahhh, not too far away from Worthing then. That was the only part of the
south that I enjoyed working in. The rest was a ********.
Where in Yorkshire were you?

On 15/01/2015 13:23, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, R.G. Bargy wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:56, GB wrote:
Try walking nude down Oxford Street if you really think there are no
dress codes in this country.
See "naked rambler" for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29800016

Fallacious; Reductio ad absurdum

I don't understand. Explain?

"GB" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 21:53, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
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On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and
law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them,

I don’t believe that.

although many might think the cartoons were offensive - not to say
puerile and unfunny.

Sure, but I'm sure some do support the executions.

Well, if you already know the answer, I can't quite see why you said "It
would be interesting to know just how many..."?

I was clearly interested in what PERCENTAGE do that.

You have prejudged the issue,

Pigs arse I have.

and you are not really interested in an alternative view.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 15/01/15 21:25, john james wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/15 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Re-writing history again Harry?

Nope. You are in this case.

Blair wasnt PM at the time of the first gulf war.

But he was during the second

So Dave wasnt re-writing history, Harry was.

On 15/01/15 22:12, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Zebabist Nation of OOOG
500/1

^ This.

On 15/01/15 22:18, Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message

I'm in East Sussex.

No it's not next to Essex. But I lived in N Yorkshire once.

Ahhh, not too far away from Worthing then. That was the only part of the
south that I enjoyed working in.

Worthing is West Sussex. We don't talk to them.


The rest was a ********.
Where in Yorkshire were you?



York.

I guess that was pretty "Yorkshire".

But I was a student so -100000 points for that.

However, I did not dance down Bootham whilst ****ed singing "North
Yorkshiremen shag sheep" repeatedly at 90 dB on a weekend night.

That was Jon from Wigan. He came back alive and unscathed. Only people
from Wigan can do that. No one knows how.

On 15/01/15 22:19, R.G. Bargy wrote:
On 15/01/2015 13:23, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, R.G. Bargy wrote:
On 15/01/2015 11:56, GB wrote:
Try walking nude down Oxford Street if you really think there are no
dress codes in this country.
See "naked rambler" for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29800016

Fallacious; Reductio ad absurdum

I don't understand. Explain?

Something about giving a giving a blowjob to a roman?

On 15/01/2015 22:15, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 15/01/2015 20:34, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 19:08, The Medway Handyman wrote:

It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.


I take it that you are not exactly a Teetotal veggie, then?


Errrm. No.

Plenty of
those around, though, and many of them simply choose that lifestyle for
non-religious reasons.

People choose not to eat bacon & drink beer?

Yes, and they live to a very very old age. Or at least it seems that way.

On 15/01/2015 22:16, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, The Medway Handyman wrote:

It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.

Never mind that, they want you to cut the end of your dick off!

You're assuming that they want you to join.

On 15/01/2015 22:25, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2015 21:53, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and
law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them,

I don’t believe that.

although many might think the cartoons were offensive - not to say
puerile and unfunny.

Sure, but I'm sure some do support the executions.

Well, if you already know the answer, I can't quite see why you said
"It would be interesting to know just how many..."?

I was clearly interested in what PERCENTAGE do that.

That's easy - it's 0%.



You have prejudged the issue,

Pigs arse I have.


At least you admit it.



and you are not really interested in an alternative view.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Thank you.

"GB" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2015 22:25, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2015 21:53, Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2015 19:53, Rod Speed wrote:

Virtually all Muslims in this country are very peaceful and
law-abiding.

It would be interesting to know just how many of them
actually support the execution of those journalists tho.

None of them,

I don’t believe that.

although many might think the cartoons were offensive - not to say
puerile and unfunny.

Sure, but I'm sure some do support the executions.

Well, if you already know the answer, I can't quite see why you said
"It would be interesting to know just how many..."?

I was clearly interested in what PERCENTAGE do that.

That's easy - it's 0%.

That's a lie.

You have prejudged the issue,

Pigs arse I have.

At least you admit it.

Did nothing of the sort.

and you are not really interested in an alternative view.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Thank you.

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
It's a long way between getting pork juice on your hands and touching a
glass/metal object that happens to contain alcohol.

Care to guess how many Muslin owned and run shops in the UK sell alcohol?

--
*I wished the buck stopped here, as I could use a few*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 15/01/2015 22:12, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 15/01/2015 19:54, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 15/01/2015 13:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54:44 UTC, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 14/01/2015 21:28, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Al Murray is standing against Nigel Farage in Thanet South.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779


They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

I would hope he'd get far more than that.


He would get my vote if I lived there.

http://thepublandlord.com/

Latest odds;

UKIP
8/13
Conservatives
15/8
Labour
7/1
The Pub Landlord
66/1
Liberal Democrats
100/1
Greens
200/1
Reality Party
500/1
Manston Airport Party
500/1
Al Zebabist Nation of OOOG
500/1

Russ Timpson commented:

I heard that a beer drinking, right wing comedian was going for election
in Thanet South. Al Murray is also standing


--
Colin Bignell

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
the salient fact that it is seldom members of the islamic community who
provide the leads about terrorists who have operated in their midst.

My next door neighbour could be a mass murderer for all I know. Of course
if we were both Muslim and he a terrorist, the likes of you would expect
me to somehow know.

--
*They told me I had type-A blood, but it was a Type-O.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
john james wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/15 16:39, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The amount of money wasted on Iraq (twice) and Afghanistan would have
solved a shed load of problems here.

Well you can blame your socialist friend Bliar for that.

Re-writing history again Harry?

Nope. You are in this case.

Blair wasn‘t PM at the time of the first gulf war.

You're not allowed facts when dealing with harry. He doesn't understand
the concept.

--
*I can see your point, but I still think you're full of ****.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Plenty of
those around, though, and many of them simply choose that lifestyle for
non-religious reasons.

People choose not to eat bacon & drink beer?

Plenty of things we choose not to eat here too. Dog, horse and a variety
of insects.

--
*Always borrow money from pessimists - they don't expect it back *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:35:34 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:



It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers at
all.

But it is still okay for them to sell it from their corner shops.


I was involved in fitting out an American themed Diner that was owned
by a chap I knew as Ahmed, it had a reasonable range of alcoholic
beverages available and some of the food would have had pig in in it.
The place was due to open on Friday 14/9/2001.

"What a ****ing week I've chosen for me a Muslim to open an American
Burger Bar" he said as we finished off.

G,Harman

They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity stunts.
Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

You can't buy publicity like that. It is worth far more to him than
£500. Since it's an obvious publicity stunt he will be able to claim it
off tax anyway.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote

They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

You can't buy publicity like that. It is worth far more to him than £500.
Since it's an obvious publicity stunt he will be able to claim it off tax
anyway.

It would be interesting to see if the tax man buys that claim.

Bet they wouldn't allow all the money spent
during the election campaign as a deduction.

On 16/01/15 00:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
the salient fact that it is seldom members of the islamic community who
provide the leads about terrorists who have operated in their midst.

My next door neighbour could be a mass murderer for all I know. Of course
if we were both Muslim and he a terrorist, the likes of you would expect
me to somehow know.

No Dave,. in your case we have learnt to expect nothing but bigotry and
ignorance and a huge chip on your shoulder.

I would not be surprised if you (had already) converted to Islam.


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/01/2015 02:13, Bill Wright wrote:

They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.
Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

You can't buy publicity like that. It is worth far more to him than
£500. Since it's an obvious publicity stunt he will be able to claim it
off tax anyway.

It is a satirical dig at UKIP, rather than a simple publicity stunt.


--
Colin Bignell

On 16/01/15 08:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No Dave,. in your case we have learnt to expect nothing but bigotry and
ignorance and a huge chip on your shoulder.

I would not be surprised if you (had already) converted to Islam.



Ah, ad hominem - truly the master of mass debate...

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/01/15 00:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
the salient fact that it is seldom members of the islamic community
who provide the leads about terrorists who have operated in their
midst.

My next door neighbour could be a mass murderer for all I know. Of
course if we were both Muslim and he a terrorist, the likes of you
would expect me to somehow know.

No Dave,. in your case we have learnt to expect nothing but bigotry and
ignorance and a huge chip on your shoulder.

You really don't like having facts pointed out to you, do you?

I would not be surprised if you (had already) converted to Islam.

Converted from what?

You really don't have a clue.

--
*Do they ever shut up on your planet?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 16/01/15 08:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No Dave,. in your case we have learnt to expect nothing but bigotry and
ignorance and a huge chip on your shoulder.

I would not be surprised if you (had already) converted to Islam.



Ah, ad hominem - truly the master of mass debate...

It really does worry me when seemingly intelligent people tar a whole
group with the same brush. It means they simply don't think at all - just
rely on blind prejudice.

--
*All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 16/01/15 12:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 16/01/15 08:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No Dave,. in your case we have learnt to expect nothing but bigotry and
ignorance and a huge chip on your shoulder.

I would not be surprised if you (had already) converted to Islam.



Ah, ad hominem - truly the master of mass debate...

It really does worry me when seemingly intelligent people tar a whole
group with the same brush. It means they simply don't think at all - just
rely on blind prejudice.


Worked for McCarthyism...

On 16/01/15 12:08, Huge wrote:

W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-ll. So long as they make it clear before they accept
the job.

Yes.

I once asked a Muslim checkout girl at Waitrose whether she minded handling
alcohol or pork (since I was buying wine and pork chops) and she said her
imam had said that since she didn't have to handle the actual haram (one
bottled & the other in shrink wrap) and that they weren't for her consumption,
it didn't matter. A perfectly sensible position, IMNHO.

Indeed. Sounds like she's one of the 90+% of perfectly normal religious
people happy to go about their daily business without a lot of fuss.

And whilst Waitrose aren't likely to bend over backwards for an awkward
sod, they do regard their employees as partners and not just minions so
I expect they would be willing to make reasonable concessions.


That means you, Oxford University Press![3]

BTW, surely that's a joke?

Who knows - it's stupid enough to be true.

On 16/01/2015 12:11, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, GB wrote:
On 15/01/2015 22:16, Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-15, The Medway Handyman wrote:

It amazes me that any religion that bans bacon & beer has any followers
at all.

Never mind that, they want you to cut the end of your dick off!

You're assuming that they want you to join.

You're assuming that this conversation is anything but hypothetical.

I'm a stone atheist. AFAIAC, all religion is superstitious clap-trap.
However, I don't care what people believe or how they live their lives
until the day it affects my life.


In that case, aren't you making rather a big deal out of the
circumcision aspect?

On 15/01/15 22:16, Huge wrote:

Never mind that, they want you to cut the end of your dick off!

With mental image I can never eat squid rings again!

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote

They shouldn't be allowed to use the election system for publicity
stunts.

Well it'll cost him £500 unless he gets 5% of the vote.

You can't buy publicity like that. It is worth far more to him than £500.
Since it's an obvious publicity stunt he will be able to claim it off tax
anyway.

It would be interesting to see if the tax man buys that claim.

He won't.

Bet they wouldn't allow all the money spent
during the election campaign as a deduction.