On Apr 17, 12:47*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"

Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper end,
they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them frequently..
Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are expensive, have
poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very often. E.g. mushrooms
(treated as if vegetables though we all know they are not!), leaf
vegetables.

But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not loose?

You really don't do the shopping, do you?

MBQ

On 16/04/2013 18:11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/13 15:47, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:04:54 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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PeterC wrote:
I know it's "all for a good cause" (is it ?) but my heart sinks when
I see these charity packers at the tills. Last few times I have said
to the volunteers that I will give them money *not* to pack my bags.
I don't let 'em touch my stuff. The rucsack on the conveyor is higher
than most people and I want the hard, heavy stuff at the bottom. Not
yet that crumbly that I need help.
I generally just put everything back in the trolley, and pack up at the
car. Wish everyone did.
That must rate as one of the most ****ing obvious solutions ever. I'll
try it this weekend, but already I can seem myself in 2040 saying "why
did I even wait so long to do this ..."

Are you a messiah ?
frankly, I am not convinced that the easiest thing isn't just to
randomly bung the stuff in bags and sort it just ONCE when you get home.

Load the belt in the right order, and its naturally segregated into
appropriate bags by the time you get it home...

Or, sort it by weight and crushability (EggsonTop principle) for transit
only.

and frozen stuff together etc.


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In article
,
Man at B&Q wrote:
Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper
end, they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them
frequently. Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are
expensive, have poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very
often. E.g. mushrooms (treated as if vegetables though we all know
they are not!), leaf vegetables.

But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not
loose?

You really don't do the shopping, do you?

If I didn't do it no one would.

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

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On 18/04/2013 14:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Man at B&Q wrote:
Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper
end, they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them
frequently. Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are
expensive, have poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very
often. E.g. mushrooms (treated as if vegetables though we all know
they are not!), leaf vegetables.

But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not
loose?

You really don't do the shopping, do you?

If I didn't do it no one would.

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

Yes I do! And kale. I don't want to grab a handful, or whatever form it
comes in, and have move than we need.

--
Rod

In article ,
polygonum wrote:
On 18/04/2013 14:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Man at B&Q wrote:
Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper
end, they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them
frequently. Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are
expensive, have poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very
often. E.g. mushrooms (treated as if vegetables though we all know
they are not!), leaf vegetables.

But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not
loose?

You really don't do the shopping, do you?

If I didn't do it no one would.

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

Yes I do! And kale. I don't want to grab a handful, or whatever form it
comes in, and have move than we need.

But by weight? I'd have no idea what enough broccoli for four would weigh.
Or kale, come to that. I buy the quantity I want just by looking at it -
so more by volume than weight.

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On 18/04/2013 15:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
polygonum wrote:
On 18/04/2013 14:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Man at B&Q wrote:
Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper
end, they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them
frequently. Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are
expensive, have poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very
often. E.g. mushrooms (treated as if vegetables though we all know
they are not!), leaf vegetables.

But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not
loose?

You really don't do the shopping, do you?

If I didn't do it no one would.

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

Yes I do! And kale. I don't want to grab a handful, or whatever form it
comes in, and have move than we need.

But by weight? I'd have no idea what enough broccoli for four would weigh.
Or kale, come to that. I buy the quantity I want just by looking at it -
so more by volume than weight.

Even if that were the case, I'd like to check that I haven't grossly
wrongly estimated. Maybe grab some kale by eye/feel, weigh it, check the
amount isn't crazy and the price isn't more than I am willing to pay.
Then put in trolley/basket.

--
Rod

polygonum wrote:

On 18/04/2013 15:06, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But by weight? I'd have no idea what enough broccoli for four would weigh.
Or kale, come to that. I buy the quantity I want just by looking at it -
so more by volume than weight.

Even if that were the case, I'd like to check that I haven't grossly
wrongly estimated. Maybe grab some kale by eye/feel, weigh it, check the
amount isn't crazy and the price isn't more than I am willing to pay.
Then put in trolley/basket.

It matters when you are selecting stuff of which you need a
particular quantity, and too much would be wasted, too little
unsatisfactory. Which butternut squash is right, how big a sweet
potato? I wouldn't use them every week, unlike, say, potato or
onions, so it matters.

Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:06:42 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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polygonum wrote:

On 18/04/2013 14:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article

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Man at B&Q wrote:

Fine for carrots (usually) because they tend to be at the cheaper

end, they often keep well (as you said), and many people use them

frequently. Very, very much less acceptable for vegetables which are

expensive, have poor keeping qualities, and may not be used very

often. E.g. mushrooms (treated as if vegetables though we all know

they are not!), leaf vegetables.



But those sort of things are generally sold pre-packed anyway - not

loose?



You really don't do the shopping, do you?



If I didn't do it no one would.



But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?



Yes I do! And kale. I don't want to grab a handful, or whatever form it

comes in, and have move than we need.



But by weight? I'd have no idea what enough broccoli for four would weigh.

But aren't such things sold by wieght rather than volume.
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/grocerie...=1366299115401

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp

all sold by wieght.

Cabbages, lettaces are all sold in price per kg rather than prive per litre.
Bannanas are sold either in set bags or by wieght not number or lenght or volume.

Beer and wine is sold by volume.

But I buy the above by wieght as I know I can only carry a certain amount home on the bus, so say I buy 3 500ml bottles of beer, 1 litre of milk, & 1kg of sugar is about the limit if I'm buying other stuff.






Or kale, come to that. I buy the quantity I want just by looking at it -

so more by volume than weight.

But it's sold by wieght too, you just find vison easier to judge.

On 17/04/2013 13:01, polygonum wrote:

and a water droplet device spraying over them all the time. The veg
there have to be loose in order for that to work.


Which will ensure that they will rot very quickly when kept in the
plastic bag you put them in when purchasing.

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On 18/04/2013 22:55, alan wrote:
On 17/04/2013 13:01, polygonum wrote:

and a water droplet device spraying over them all the time. The veg
there have to be loose in order for that to work.


Which will ensure that they will rot very quickly when kept in the
plastic bag you put them in when purchasing.

Maybe.

Picture he

http://getrawcous.com/wp-content/upl...6/SAM_0809.jpg

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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:22:45 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

As I said before if I've been asked to get X grams of something I make
damn sure I get at least X grams. Life would not be worth living if I
didn't...

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Cheers
Dave.

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:22:45 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

As I said before if I've been asked to get X grams of something I make
damn sure I get at least X grams. Life would not be worth living if I
didn't...

SWMBO instructs you get so many grams of cauliflower? Cabbage?
She's got your measure. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/04/13 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
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Man at B&Q wrote:
Or leave it in the bank and watch 60% of it taxed out of existence
by te EU?
Where do you get 60 from?
Cyprus? It is NTP you're replying to and he probably doesn't know the
difference.

or spain (40%)

Eseentially the EU has in principle decided that all your bank accounts
belong to them to bail out the GOVERNMENTS of any country they happen to
be lodged in.

If the government of that country approves.

Even the disgraceful Nu Labia never dared go that far.

They didn't have to ask the EU to bail them out.

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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:21:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:22:45 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

As I said before if I've been asked to get X grams of something I make
damn sure I get at least X grams. Life would not be worth living if I
didn't...

SWMBO instructs you get so many grams of cauliflower? Cabbage?
She's got your measure. ;-)

I try to eschew buying things in "grammes", but it's fairly
unavoidable for things like medicines, sadly.

--
Frank Erskine
Foot, pint and pound are perfectly sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/04/13 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Man at B&Q wrote:
Or leave it in the bank and watch 60% of it taxed out of existence
by te EU?
Where do you get 60 from?
Cyprus? It is NTP you're replying to and he probably doesn't know the
difference.

or spain (40%)

Eseentially the EU has in principle decided that all your bank accounts
belong to them to bail out the GOVERNMENTS of any country they happen to
be lodged in.

If the government of that country approves.

And that’s only eurozone countrys too, they get
no say with countrys that arent in the eurozone.

Even the disgraceful Nu Labia never dared go that far.

They didn't have to ask the EU to bail them out.

On 19/04/2013 01:33, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:21:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 14:22:45 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But do you really weigh cauliflower cabbage or broccoli before buying?

As I said before if I've been asked to get X grams of something I make
damn sure I get at least X grams. Life would not be worth living if I
didn't...

SWMBO instructs you get so many grams of cauliflower? Cabbage?
She's got your measure. ;-)

I try to eschew buying things in "grammes", but it's fairly
unavoidable for things like medicines, sadly.

Glad you had a "fairly" in there.

One medicine taken in this house is produced and sold in grains and
fractions thereof.

--
Rod

In article ,
polygonum writes:

As far as I know Julian Graves got taken over by Holland & Barrett - and
our one became a body-builders muscle-milk-powder-and-supplement shop
(can't remember branding but think they are subsidiary of H&B).

Our one closed, and as I used them quite a bit, I asked them.
They were only closing out stores at end of lease, and that depended
on the amount of business and rent/rates for the store in question.
It was empty for a while and has now turned into a nail bar (which
is always empty, so I don't imagine that will last).

There's still a Julian Graves in the next town, but as they charge
for car parking, I only use it very occasionally when I feel like
cycling over there.

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