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Gordon Henderson wrote:
I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall. I wonder what it would be like to put your knob in one of those? Anyone any practical experience of this? Bill |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... Gordon Henderson wrote: I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall. I wonder what it would be like to put your knob in one of those? Anyone any practical experience of this? One of these? http://www.airblade.ca/ I'm not that religious. |
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En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió: The belts are a little slack and not very 'grippy' with a shiny surface. Cleaning them with IPA has made them grippier and got rid of the shine, I'll stick it back together and see how it goes. update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked, the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new when I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack. Thanks all. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 28/08/2012 22:30, Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-28, Gordon Henderson wrote: I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall. You also need space to store the ear defenders, something you can clean out the evil gunge that grows in the bottom of them and paper towels to dry your finger tips which they miss. In short, they're utter ****. Known as "Die Soon" in the trade. Never found one that picks up properly. And why do they all look like space stations? It takes 5 mins to find the bloody on/off switch. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:06:54 PM UTC+1, Tim Streater wrote:
Well you might be influenced by Which reports. I'm not. Their typical in-depth analysis of, say, DSLRs, usually says: "Takes great photos" or the equivalent. Indeed. Whenever I've read one of their reports about something I feel I know something about I've come away wondering whether they really know their stuff or not. Almost like their reviewers are not experts in any particular field, but merely 'generally pretty knowledgeable' about a variety of subjects. This has undermined my faith and confidence in them in fields I know nothing/little about, and it's not like I have any reason to be cynical about them - I want a source of recommendations I can trust but I can't help but feel that Which? is not it. Mathew |
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On Aug 29, 8:24*am, The Medway Handyman
wrote: On 28/08/2012 22:30, Huge wrote: On 2012-08-28, Gordon Henderson wrote: I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall. You also need space to store the ear defenders, something you can clean out the evil gunge that grows in the bottom of them and paper towels to dry your finger tips which they miss. Known as "Die Soon" in the trade. *Never found one that picks up properly. No wonder some people think Dyson are rubbish if they try to use an Airblade hand dryer to clean the carpets! You'll find their vacuum cleaners are considerably more effective at that task. Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ |
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The Other Mike wrote: I thought the ball idea rubbish. It doesn't work on a wheelbarrow, so why is it suddenly a good idea on a vacuum cleaner? OAP's that are ancient but still active enough to vacuum clean their carpets love 'ball' Dysons like the lightweight DC24, as they are far easier to push around and easy to carry up and down the stairs. Lightweight simply means it will break easier. -- *Money isn‘t everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Tim Streater wrote: I've never understood it, either. I've also had to rewire the mains plug a few times, too, for the same reason (burned out wires). I notice that the cable is more plasticky than rubbery, but apart from that... Well perhaps some of the Dyson "experts" here who don't like them could comment. Me, I'm just a user. Cheap cable. -- *Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Gordon Henderson wrote: Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60. So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years? My Panasonic didn't cost 120 quid some 20 years ago and has never needed a service. Nor have I spent anything like 120 quid on new bags. -- *Gaffer tape - The Force, light and dark sides - holds the universe together* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Aug 28, 9:06*pm, Tim Streater wrote:
Well you might be influenced by Which reports. I'm not. Their typical in-depth analysis of, say, DSLRs, usually says: "Takes great photos" or the equivalent. I think you're confusing the summary with the detailed test results. The most recent Which DSLR review I can find rates each camera on a scale of 1 to 5 for fourteen characteristics, and then assigns an overall score out of 100. Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:54:16 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked, the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new when I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack. How much is your time? Why not use the in home service? http://www.dyson.co.uk/Support/Repai...formation.aspx Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:53:37 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60. So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years? Our DC04 at 10years+ has had one £65 service and no consumables. My Panasonic didn't cost 120 quid some 20 years ago and has never needed a service. Nor have I spent anything like 120 quid on new bags. Other vacuum cleaners (Electrolux and Panasonic) of similar vintage and use have gone to the dump and none of them ever worked as well as the DC04 still does. Both bagged things would put a very fine dust into the air as well, the DC04 doesn't. -- Cheers Dave. |
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wrote: Indeed. Whenever I've read one of their reports about something I feel I know something about I've come away wondering whether they really know their stuff or not. Almost like their reviewers are not experts in any particular field, but merely 'generally pretty knowledgeable' about a variety of subjects. Sounds like you've not read the full reports - merely a summary. This has undermined my faith and confidence in them in fields I know nothing/little about, and it's not like I have any reason to be cynical about them - I want a source of recommendations I can trust but I can't help but feel that Which? is not it. 'Experts' on all sorts of hobby things like Hi-Fi or cameras or even cars are unlikely to agree among themselves. As so much is down to personal preference. So all Which attempts to do is guide those who simply want a good value product which does what it says on the tin. I've bought several of their 'best buys' over the years and never been disappointed. But these are generally household goods I'm not particularly interested in - other than them doing what they're meant to reliably. And vacuum cleaners definitely fit this group. I don't much care what it looks like, within reason. -- *Acupuncture is a jab well done* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: Other vacuum cleaners (Electrolux and Panasonic) of similar vintage and use have gone to the dump and none of them ever worked as well as the DC04 still does. Both bagged things would put a very fine dust into the air as well, the DC04 doesn't. My next door neighbour has had three new Dysons to my one Panasonic. And she's an elderly widow living on a very modest income. I don't suffer from dust allergies. Do you have to wear a mask when outdoors - like you see all those Japanese doing? -- *Rehab is for quitters. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Richard Russell wrote:
On Aug 28, 9:06 pm, Tim Streater wrote: Well you might be influenced by Which reports. I'm not. Their typical in-depth analysis of, say, DSLRs, usually says: "Takes great photos" or the equivalent. I think you're confusing the summary with the detailed test results. The most recent Which DSLR review I can find rates each camera on a scale of 1 to 5 for fourteen characteristics, Only 7 of which are interesting to you and fails to mention the other 35 that are.. and then assigns an overall score out of 100. Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:54:16 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote: update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked, the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new when I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack. How much is your time? Why not use the in home service? http://www.dyson.co.uk/Support/Repai...formation.aspx Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts. and exceeds the cost of simple reliable cylinder cleaner. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:11:32 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
wrote: I spent most of the w/e in the tip (28 bags of garden waste!). Eyeballing the electrics skip (it's a non-selling tip) I read here about people who get spare parts from their tips but there is a sign at our tip saying you cannot take anything. I presume this is because the council get more money selling it on. Are they paid per kilo? Actually, I notice it is no longer operated by the council but subcontracted out, so perhaps the operator gets more money by selling it on. I bought a second hand dc07 so that I could use it for cleaning up after DIY jobs and not dirty SWMBO's vacuum. One reason I chose the dc07 was that spares seemed to be readily and cheaply available from ebay. But it seems to me that the prices have gone up, making this less appealing now. Anyway, the dc07 has sat in the garage unused because I can't get the base to pivot and I've never got round to looking at it properly. Any ideas what to look for? TIA |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Gordon Henderson wrote: Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60. So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years? Well... It was free. However if I had actually bought it, it would have been treated better than the place I got it from (building site), so probably unlikely to have needed both services. But for running costs - £60 every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK in my books. Gordon |
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Fred wrote: I bought a second hand dc07 so that I could use it for cleaning up after DIY jobs and not dirty SWMBO's vacuum. One reason I chose the dc07 was that spares seemed to be readily and cheaply available from ebay. But it seems to me that the prices have gone up, making this less appealing now. I was quite surprised some years ago to see a full 'bay' of Dyson spares in Comet. With only bags and belts etc on sale for other makes. This either meant they were providing an excellent service - or were going to make a good profit on having such spares on display, taking up valuable space. What do you think? -- *When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Gordon Henderson wrote: But for running costs - £60 every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK in my books. I'm much happier with zero. ;-) -- *It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... Yes, it sucks but won't pick up. DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine. Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common fault. Why do people buy this rubbish? Just a success of effective marketing- the product is just crap, all of them, always were, always will be. Tim. |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On Aug 28, 1:41 pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote: Yes, it sucks but won't pick up. Throw it away, get a Henry, then get the Airobrush head for the Henry. Nothing to match it on pet hair. If you do manage to clog it, they've already put Stanley knife grooves down the roller, through the brushes. Just slide a knife along and the hair falls loose. +1. No bag option for the Henry. They 'just work'. Ive got 3 or 4 of them in various jobs from in the house to being hurled around sucking up plaster dust and generally abused in a builders vans. If you burn out the motor, £35. Hose £8. Tim. |
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In article , S Viemeister wrote:
On 8/28/2012 1:11 PM, Andy Dingley wrote: On Aug 28, 5:39 pm, Richard Russell wrote: Dyson appears mid-table in their reliability ratings: below Miele, Panasonic and Numatic but above Vax, Hoover and Electrolux. That's an improvement on what Which? found some years ago: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3688983.stm "least reliable of all upright and cylinder brands" But even then "Dyson owners remain the most likely to recommend the machine to a friend", so they must have been doing something right, even if only marketing. I spent most of the w/e in the tip (28 bags of garden waste!). Eyeballing the electrics skip (it's a non-selling tip) I counted four Dysons, an ancient orange drum Vax and one dark green upright of unknown make. Is Dysons are so damned good, why are there so many already thrown away? Fashion? The new ones come in more up-to-date colour combinations. I've known people to get rid of perfectly good KitchenAid mixers because the colour doesn't suit the new kitchen. Also, they're distinctive and colorful so stand out even when there are other things around, and they are overpriced^W expensive enough to be worth breaking for parts instead of just throwing the whole thing in a skip, so show up more at tips where stuff is segregated. But "Dyson owners are more likely to be fashion victims than users of other makes" isn't really a good reason to buy them.... |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:30:57 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
But for running costs - £60 every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK in my books. I'm much happier with zero. ;-) So you don't buy bags for your Panny? B-) -- Cheers Dave. |
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Gordon Henderson wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Gordon Henderson wrote: Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice in the past 8 years. I think it's about � So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years? Well... It was free. However if I had actually bought it, it would have been treated better than the place I got it from (building site), so probably unlikely to have needed both services. But for running costs - �every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK in my books. Gordon sheesh. My mums constellation did 20 years with NO service costs at all. Even used to empty the bags and reuse em -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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Liquorice writes How much is your time? Why not use the in home service? Last time I looked, this group was called uk.d-i-y, not uk.make-james- dyson-even-richer. And I like the satisfaction that comes from fixing something myself. Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts. Excluding filters. The only parts I need are the belts, which cost me 2 quid delivered from fleabay, and now I've had the thing apart once, fitting them won't take long. There are better things I can do with 73 quid. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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Alan Braggins wrote:
Also, they're distinctive and colorful so stand out even when there are other things around, and they are overpriced^W expensive enough to be worth breaking for parts instead of just throwing the whole thing in a skip, so show up more at tips where stuff is segregated. But "Dyson owners are more likely to be fashion victims than users of other makes" isn't really a good reason to buy them.... They are designed to be attractive to women. Not to work. Their sole advantage is that even a woman can tell when one needs emptying. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Aug 28, 7:08*pm, hugh ] wrote:
In message , Andy Dingley writesOn Aug 28, 5:39*pm, Richard Russell wrote: Dyson appears mid-table in their reliability ratings: below Miele, Panasonic and Numatic but above Vax, Hoover and Electrolux. I spent most of the w/e in the tip *(28 bags of garden waste!). Eyeballing the electrics skip (it's a non-selling tip) I counted four Dysons, an ancient orange drum Vax and one dark green upright of unknown make. Is Dysons are so damned good, why are there so many already thrown away? 1. Because they are the most popular brand. 2. A lot of people when faced with a trivial fault simply think it's knackered and throw it away without realising that Dysons will send an engineer/technician and fix it including parts for £70. I can replace a whole Henry for les than £100. Oh, hang on, I don't need to 'cos it doesn't break like a Dyson. MBQ |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT), Man at B&Q wrote:
I can replace a whole Henry for les than £100. Oh, hang on, I don't need to 'cos it doesn't break like a Dyson. The Henry we had broke, a brush welded itself to the commutator. Stripped it down, emeried the commutator, all worked again. Then sold it for £20 in a garage sale as it was much harder work shoving the head about to get the (short pile) carpets clean and didn't do anything like a good a job as the DC04 does with much less effort. The cheapo Earlex wet'n dry is better than the Henry. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: Then sold it for £20 in a garage sale as it was much harder work shoving the head about to get the (short pile) carpets clean and didn't do anything like a good a job as the DC04 does with much less effort. Of course. One is specifically for cleaning carpets, ie an upright, the other a general purpose machine for anything. Pretty well any upright ever made would be easier to push than a cylinder for this purpose. That's why they were invented. -- *Money isn't everything, but it sure keeps the kids in touch. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:30:57 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: But for running costs - £60 every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK in my books. I'm much happier with zero. ;-) So you don't buy bags for your Panny? B-) You call that a service? ;-) I also empty them and only change them once in a while. Say a quid's worth every couple of years. -- *Tell me to 'stuff it' - I'm a taxidermist. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Huge wrote: On 2012-08-29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I don't suffer from dust allergies. Do you have to wear a mask when outdoors - like you see all those Japanese doing? The Japanese wearing masks have colds - they are trying not to infect those around them. Doesn't seem to do much good - otherwise they'd not catch one. -- *I don't work here. I'm a consultant Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 29/08/2012 14:20, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article o.uk, Dave Liquorice writes How much is your time? Why not use the in home service? Last time I looked, this group was called uk.d-i-y, not uk.make-james- dyson-even-richer. And I like the satisfaction that comes from fixing something myself. Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts. Excluding filters. The only parts I need are the belts, which cost me 2 quid delivered from fleabay, and now I've had the thing apart once, fitting them won't take long. There are better things I can do with 73 quid. Like buy a new Henry? :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The nay-sayers seem to fall into two groups: those who say Dysons are
unreliable and those who say they don't work very well (there's a third group who can't manage to say anything intelligent at all, but hey this is Usenet!). As far as unreliability is concerned I haven't personally found that to be the case, but I accept that a sample of size of 4 is far too small to conclude anything meaningful. I am happy to believe the verdict of Which that they are neither particularly reliable nor particularly unreliable (with some evidence that things have improved in the last few years). However as far as performance is concerned my personal experience (and that of most other Dyson users I'm sure) *is* relevant, and that is that they work very well. They also score highly with me for ease of emptying, weight and manoevrability (at least the models we have). I am mystified that some people are claiming that they "don't pick up"; that is totally at variance with the Which test reports which typically describe Dysons as 'excellent', 'superb' or 'outstanding'. Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ |
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On 29/08/2012 09:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Lightweight simply means it will break easier. Ours is a lightweight one. Most obviously the dirt canister is half size. /She/ puts up with that for the weight. Andy |
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On 28/08/2012 19:14, rbel wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT), Richard Russell wrote: On Aug 28, 4:23 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: I can never understand this Dyson fetish. They appear to give more problems than a pre-war Hoover. Advertising obviously works. I wouldn't say we are influenced by advertising at all. We base our purchasing decisions on our own experiences of the brand and on Which? reports. Dyson appears mid-table in their reliability ratings: below Miele, Panasonic and Numatic but above Vax, Hoover and Electrolux. As a matter of interest where do Sebo appear in the ratings? -- rbel Sebo uprights are the mutts nuts. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 29/08/2012 18:41, Richard Russell wrote:
The nay-sayers seem to fall into two groups: those who say Dysons are unreliable and those who say they don't work very well (there's a third group who can't manage to say anything intelligent at all, but hey this is Usenet!). The forth group is those who say they are both unreliable and don't pick up very well either. As far as unreliability is concerned I haven't personally found that to be the case, but I accept that a sample of size of 4 is far too small to conclude anything meaningful. I am happy to believe the verdict of Which that they are neither particularly reliable nor particularly unreliable (with some evidence that things have improved in the last few years). A guy I know runs a large vacuum cleaner repair centre on the south coast. At any given time he has a room full of dead Die Soons. He loves them, the repairs pay for his 3 holidays a year. However as far as performance is concerned my personal experience (and that of most other Dyson users I'm sure) *is* relevant, and that is that they work very well. They also score highly with me for ease of emptying, weight and manoevrability (at least the models we have). I am mystified that some people are claiming that they "don't pick up"; that is totally at variance with the Which test reports which typically describe Dysons as 'excellent', 'superb' or 'outstanding'. I've spent most of my working life selling cleaning machines & have experience of every type of vacuum you could imagine - and some you couldn't. Based on that experience Die Soons don't pick up very well at all. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Tim Streater wrote: The most recent Which DSLR review I can find rates each camera on a scale of 1 to 5 for fourteen characteristics, and then assigns an overall score out of 100. And do they mention stuff like lens aberrations or sensor size? No. If I want "detailed test results" about DSLRs I'll go to dpreview or photozone, thanks. Quite. Which never claimed to do reviews for enthusiasts. Plenty of mags around for those. But they can be daunting for someone who may just want a decent camera which works. -- *A closed mouth gathers no feet.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dyson SUCKS - the answer
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Tim Streater wrote: 'Experts' on all sorts of hobby things like Hi-Fi or cameras or even cars are unlikely to agree among themselves. As so much is down to personal preference. So all Which attempts to do is guide those who simply want a good value product which does what it says on the tin. That may be the case for commodity items like toasters, but for anything that embodies any degree of complexity their reports are laughable. The only way to deal with such items is to become a bit knowledgeable yourself, such as listening to the "experts" debating amongst themselves. But as I keep on saying, 'experts' with these hobby things very rarely agree about anything - leaving a non expert confused. I've bought several of their 'best buys' over the years and never been disappointed. But these are generally household goods I'm not particularly interested in - other than them doing what they're meant to reliably. And vacuum cleaners definitely fit this group. I don't much care what it looks like, within reason. Neither do I. To me, the Dysons look fugly, unlike the sleek sexy models you get from most vendors. However I'm uninfluenced by that, just as I'd never buy B&O hi-fi. B&O usually performs perfectly adequately, so if someone is willing to pay extra for its looks, it's their money. But you don't tend to have to look at a vacuum cleaner other than when it's in use. I bought my Dyson 18 or whatever years ago on a recommendation from a relly whose judgement I can trust. Well, yes. Dyson fetishists always try for recruits to their cult. -- *You can't have everything, where would you put it?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dyson SUCKS!
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley
wrote: On Aug 28, 8:37*pm, The Other Mike wrote: one now has a crack in the nozzle after I drove over it. See! Rubbish! Our car has a dent in the back bumper where Dad drove it into Henry. The Henry has long been relegated to sucking up wood dust but cannot be lifted as the latch connecting the top and the bottom doesn't work (nor can I see how to make it work) -- |
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