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I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place
when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? |
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On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Cydrome Leader wrote:
I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? For a light oil I use 'genuine' Singer Sewing Machine Oil. I comes in a metal can and doesn't leave gummy residue. At least the stuff I bought 15 years ago or so is in this condition. Go to a sewing store and see what you can find. Wolfgang |
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![]() "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote:
Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. It comes in bigger bottles too. I have a pint bottle of Break Free CLP sitting on the desk. I'm not doing a testimonial but I think it works pretty good. It isn't all that expensive in that size. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...637&t=11082005 Wes |
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On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Cydrome Leader wrote:
I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Cydrome, 3 in One plastic containers arn't the only ones that fail. All the motor oil "bottles" come in plastic these days. Don't leave these sitting around unused too long. They most definetly fail as well without any human touch. Ask me how I know :-(( What a mess. Saving all my WD-40, thinner, etc METAL gallon cans, for reuse, RichD, Atlanta |
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RichD wrote:
Cydrome, 3 in One plastic containers arn't the only ones that fail. All the motor oil "bottles" come in plastic these days. Don't leave these sitting around unused too long. They most definetly fail as well without any human touch. Ask me how I know :-(( What a mess. Saving all my WD-40, thinner, etc METAL gallon cans, for reuse, RichD, Atlanta I still think plastic beats those paper and tin oil cans of the past. Wes |
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For a light oil I use a good qaulity airline oil like silkolene
currently, contains various additives for rust prevention, anti oxidants, anti foam etc, can even be used in hydraulic systems. I sympathise regarding the qaulity of the container, it has annoyed me for years that grease and some other products seem to come in hard plastic containers that dropped once split, gaffer tape to the rescue. Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? |
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I use an aerosol of lanolin oil. (From sheeps wool). Our shop is
near the coast, and any tools left out will start to rust in about 12 hours. I spray it on everything, bedways, cutting tools, measuring equipment. I use it for antispatter too, as it can be painted straight over. I find it has a thinner film than most other oils, and it is a natural product. Its available in bulk cans aswell, but the best method of applying it is aerosol, or spray. |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. Good call. For whatever reason it never crossed my mind to use gun oil. I haven't even broken the seals on all the bottles of that stuff I've accumulated that come with any new gun. I just use teflon-ish oils and greases on everything. |
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On 2007-10-09, Cydrome Leader wrote:
I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. Try to be more careful next time. i The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:49:51 -0700, RichD wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Cydrome, 3 in One plastic containers arn't the only ones that fail. All the motor oil "bottles" come in plastic these days. Don't leave these sitting around unused too long. They most definetly fail as well without any human touch. Ask me how I know :-(( What a mess. Saving all my WD-40, thinner, etc METAL gallon cans, for reuse, RichD, Atlanta Oddly enough, I have been using a (UK) plastic 3 in One oil bottle to dispense neat cutting oil on the lathe for the last 7 years and it's still going strong. The oil was crap, but the container seems to survive where a metal one could be dangerous. Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:49:51 -0700, RichD
wrote: Cydrome, 3 in One plastic containers arn't the only ones that fail. All the motor oil "bottles" come in plastic these days. Don't leave these sitting around unused too long. They most definetly fail as well without any human touch. Ask me how I know :-(( What a mess. Saving all my WD-40, thinner, etc METAL gallon cans, for reuse, RichD, Atlanta I just went down to the shop and looked but I don't see any drips from the 1 Quart can of 50 wt Sunoco motor oil that has been following me around since the early 1950's when my brother bought it to mix with gas for his chain saw (this was before they made special 2 cycle oils). On the other hand, three vehicles made after 1985 have had their oil pans replaced because of rust out. Are modern vehicles with all of the technical advances made of less durable material than 50+ year old oil cans? Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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Yea just replaced my Radiator on the truck. Plastic sides to the tank...
Cracked plastic doesn't hold fluid long. That was a simple $1000 on that job. Soak you for every joint an task. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:49:51 -0700, RichD wrote: Cydrome, 3 in One plastic containers arn't the only ones that fail. All the motor oil "bottles" come in plastic these days. Don't leave these sitting around unused too long. They most definetly fail as well without any human touch. Ask me how I know :-(( What a mess. Saving all my WD-40, thinner, etc METAL gallon cans, for reuse, RichD, Atlanta I just went down to the shop and looked but I don't see any drips from the 1 Quart can of 50 wt Sunoco motor oil that has been following me around since the early 1950's when my brother bought it to mix with gas for his chain saw (this was before they made special 2 cycle oils). On the other hand, three vehicles made after 1985 have had their oil pans replaced because of rust out. Are modern vehicles with all of the technical advances made of less durable material than 50+ year old oil cans? Gerry :-)} London, Canada ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:36:05 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. Good call. For whatever reason it never crossed my mind to use gun oil. I haven't even broken the seals on all the bottles of that stuff I've accumulated that come with any new gun. I just use teflon-ish oils and greases on everything. Our local itinerant sewing machine repairman, whom we regard as a Singer genius, swears by TriFlo in little 4-oz squeeze bottles with dropper tips and tubes. I have no idea where he gets it. We buy it from him. Mary has a coupla Singers that are more than 50 years old, run like new -- and they sew considerably better than most new machines. No electronics, no plastic, just (!) precision. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:36:05 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. Good call. For whatever reason it never crossed my mind to use gun oil. I haven't even broken the seals on all the bottles of that stuff I've accumulated that come with any new gun. I just use teflon-ish oils and greases on everything. Our local itinerant sewing machine repairman, whom we regard as a Singer genius, swears by TriFlo in little 4-oz squeeze bottles with dropper tips and tubes. I have no idea where he gets it. We buy it from him. Mary has a coupla Singers that are more than 50 years old, run like new -- and they sew considerably better than most new machines. No electronics, no plastic, just (!) precision. That stuff is weird- but works great, as long as you don't already have other oil on the parts. The rare times I see it, I buy it- and I stree the rare part. |
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On 2007-10-09, Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. Try to be more careful next time. Should I use the light touch needed to be unable to smash a hard disk with an 8 pound sledge? Under no circumstance should the entire top of a container pop off before the cap on the nozzle part. |
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Singer. Plastic bottle that hardens after several years and then
cracks when you drop it. Mines now in a plastic precision oiler. Karl On Oct 9, 6:20 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 11:00 am, Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? For a light oil I use 'genuine' Singer Sewing Machine Oil. I comes in a metal can and doesn't leave gummy residue. At least the stuff I bought 15 years ago or so is in this condition. Go to a sewing store and see what you can find. Wolfgang |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
I just went down to the shop and looked but I don't see any drips from the 1 Quart can of 50 wt Sunoco motor oil that has been following me around since the early 1950's when my brother bought it to mix with gas for his chain saw (this was before they made special 2 cycle oils). I think I have a pour spout if you ever need one. On the other hand, three vehicles made after 1985 have had their oil pans replaced because of rust out. Are modern vehicles with all of the technical advances made of less durable material than 50+ year old oil cans? EPA CAFE standards have a lot to do with that one. Is road salt used much in your area? Wes |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
wrote: Ignoramus3694 wrote: On 2007-10-09, Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. Try to be more careful next time. Should I use the light touch needed to be unable to smash a hard disk with an 8 pound sledge? Under no circumstance should the entire top of a container pop off before the cap on the nozzle part. Can be a bit of a bugger when you discover that you've just pulled off the screw-on cap :-( Mark Rand RTFM |
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I had some - found Triflow in a hardware store - but not since.
Nice stuff. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Don Foreman wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:36:05 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Tom Gardner wrote: "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? Gun oil comes in little leak-proof plastic bottles with good dispensing dropper. Good call. For whatever reason it never crossed my mind to use gun oil. I haven't even broken the seals on all the bottles of that stuff I've accumulated that come with any new gun. I just use teflon-ish oils and greases on everything. Our local itinerant sewing machine repairman, whom we regard as a Singer genius, swears by TriFlo in little 4-oz squeeze bottles with dropper tips and tubes. I have no idea where he gets it. We buy it from him. Mary has a coupla Singers that are more than 50 years old, run like new -- and they sew considerably better than most new machines. No electronics, no plastic, just (!) precision. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:19:57 -0400, Wes wrote:
Gerald Miller wrote: I just went down to the shop and looked but I don't see any drips from the 1 Quart can of 50 wt Sunoco motor oil that has been following me around since the early 1950's when my brother bought it to mix with gas for his chain saw (this was before they made special 2 cycle oils). I think I have a pour spout if you ever need one. Got a couple myself plus the piercing funnel On the other hand, three vehicles made after 1985 have had their oil pans replaced because of rust out. Are modern vehicles with all of the technical advances made of less durable material than 50+ year old oil cans? EPA CAFE standards have a lot to do with that one. Is road salt used much in your area? I'm with you on that, but rads and oil pans should outlast body panels, at least to my way of thinking. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:33:51 +0100, Mark Rand
wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader wrote: Ignoramus3694 wrote: On 2007-10-09, Cydrome Leader wrote: I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. Try to be more careful next time. Should I use the light touch needed to be unable to smash a hard disk with an 8 pound sledge? Under no circumstance should the entire top of a container pop off before the cap on the nozzle part. Can be a bit of a bugger when you discover that you've just pulled off the screw-on cap :-( Or tried to unscrew the cap from a non threaded beer bottle Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:19:57 -0400, Wes wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: I just went down to the shop and looked but I don't see any drips from the 1 Quart can of 50 wt Sunoco motor oil that has been following me around since the early 1950's when my brother bought it to mix with gas for his chain saw (this was before they made special 2 cycle oils). I think I have a pour spout if you ever need one. Got a couple myself plus the piercing funnel On the other hand, three vehicles made after 1985 have had their oil pans replaced because of rust out. Are modern vehicles with all of the technical advances made of less durable material than 50+ year old oil cans? EPA CAFE standards have a lot to do with that one. Is road salt used much in your area? I'm with you on that, but rads and oil pans should outlast body panels, at least to my way of thinking. Gerry :-)} London, Canada Automotive radiators are certainly lower quality than in years past, I really dislike the aluminum and plastic radiators. Oil pans and valve covers may be made of lighter gauge steel than they used to be, which would explain some of the rust holes in them, but I feel it's more because new motors are sealed up much better than they used to be. I've seen quite a few rusted through oil pans and they were all very dry and clean, no oil/dust caked on at all. John |
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About the only plastic bottle that I've found handy to put oil in, is the
oom Spout bottle with the extension tube in the cap tip. I've had one of these for a couple of decades, which usually has ordinary engine/motor oil in it. I've used one in the past for just dispensing air tool oil. The threaded portion of the cap can become weak with time, but putting a metal band around the threaded portion (or even a miniature hose clamp) to keep the thread diameter from expanding. I recently found some of these bottles at a Ollie's discount/clearance store, filled with Pennzoil Pennzbell oil in it (bright yellow bottle, hard to missplace). This oil seems to be a very good all purpose oil, and I've been oiling fractional HP electric motor bushing-type bearings with it, with no problems. The zoom spouts have proven to be a really useful feature over the years. WB .......... metalworking projects www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... I just had another plastic "can" of 3 in 1 oil explode all over the place when trying to get the ****ty plastic red cap off. The entire red top came off, not the small cap. This isn't the first time. Their oil can "looking" plastic containers are utter **** as well. They leak when you don't want them to, and when you need oil, basically nothing comes out. The garbage packaging is why I will no longer but this stuff. so, who still sells oil in metal cans these days, even it has to be mail ordered? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:17:17 -0400, "Wild_Bill"
wrote: About the only plastic bottle that I've found handy to put oil in, is the oom Spout bottle with the extension tube in the cap tip. I've had one of these for a couple of decades, which usually has ordinary engine/motor oil in it. I've used one in the past for just dispensing air tool oil. The threaded portion of the cap can become weak with time, but putting a metal band around the threaded portion (or even a miniature hose clamp) to keep the thread diameter from expanding. I recently found some of these bottles at a Ollie's discount/clearance store, filled with Pennzoil Pennzbell oil in it (bright yellow bottle, hard to missplace). This oil seems to be a very good all purpose oil, and I've been oiling fractional HP electric motor bushing-type bearings with it, with no problems. The zoom spouts have proven to be a really useful feature over the years. My furnace man left one on my porch when he finished a service call. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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