Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

they don't cope very well with dust and fluff. Clogs em up. Strip and clean.

I just had an issue with t e wifes VA wert and dry 'its not sucking up
the water' well that too had a pad of fluff keeping the front of the
sucker off te ground, and intakes filled with fluff..but the killer was
that teh dirt water bit - which does the sucking, could be fitted in two
ways, one of which left the intake 3mm above carpet level.

She is now busy emptying the dirty water into the bath, instead of the
bog, where it will doubtless block the entire bath waste system.

If there is one thing more useless than a modern vacuum cleaner, it has
to be the airhead that buys one.



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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:00:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

they don't cope very well with dust and fluff. Clogs em up. Strip and clean.

Dysons look really pretty (if you like Fischer-Price), but appear to
be useless. Like WAGs.

MM

On Aug 28, 1:41*pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

Throw it away, get a Henry, then get the Airobrush head for the
Henry. Nothing to match it on pet hair.

If you do manage to clog it, they've already put Stanley knife grooves
down the roller, through the brushes. Just slide a knife along and the
hair falls loose.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:18:32 -0700, Andy Dingley wrote:

On Aug 28, 1:41Â*pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

Throw it away, get a Henry, then get the Airobrush head for the Henry.
Nothing to match it on pet hair.

Hardwood floors and a brush works well for me :-) (I never realised just
how much hair pets lose until I got a place with wood flooring... I don't
think I could go back to carpets again now that I know how much crud must
accumulate in them)

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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On Aug 28, 1:41 pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

Throw it away, get a Henry, then get the Airobrush head for the
Henry. Nothing to match it on pet hair.

If you do manage to clog it, they've already put Stanley knife grooves
down the roller, through the brushes. Just slide a knife along and the
hair falls loose.

+1.

No bag option for the Henry. They 'just work'.

Ive got 3 or 4 of them in various jobs from in the house to being hurled
around sucking up plaster dust and generally abused in a builders vans. If
you burn out the motor, £35. Hose £8.

Tim.

On Aug 28, 1:41*pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. *Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. *Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. *Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

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(='.'=)
(")_(")

Does the brush rotate when on the floor? It could be stopping and the
drive belt just slipping.
A new drive belt solves this.
Also check the bearings at the end of the brush, they get full of dust
and stop the brush rotating.

En el artículo
roups.com, Richard Ford escribió:

Does the brush rotate when on the floor? It could be stopping and the
drive belt just slipping.

Finally got the blasted thing apart after consulting YouTube. It's the
'all floors' model with the clutch and two belts. The belts are a
little slack and not very 'grippy' with a shiny surface. Cleaning them
with IPA has made them grippier and got rid of the shine, I'll stick it
back together and see how it goes.

Searching for the belts online, several spares places supply the clutch
with two belts fitted and suggest the entire clutch assembly has to be
replaced, because changing the belts needs the clutch to be dismantled.
About £18.

Found an eBay supplier which does the belts on their own for a couple of
quid. Have ordered them and will have a go.

These Dysons are clearly not intended to be repairable - they're
throwaway crap.

Also check the bearings at the end of the brush, they get full of dust
and stop the brush rotating.

Brush rotates freely, so I think this is OK. Found the shoe plate would
not swivel freely, this was caused by a wood shaving jamming the hinge.

Thanks for the tips.

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(='.'=)
(")_(")

In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo
roups.com, Richard Ford escribió:

Does the brush rotate when on the floor? It could be stopping and the
drive belt just slipping.

Finally got the blasted thing apart after consulting YouTube. It's the
'all floors' model with the clutch and two belts. The belts are a
little slack and not very 'grippy' with a shiny surface. Cleaning them
with IPA has made them grippier and got rid of the shine, I'll stick it
back together and see how it goes.

Searching for the belts online, several spares places supply the clutch
with two belts fitted and suggest the entire clutch assembly has to be
replaced, because changing the belts needs the clutch to be dismantled.
About £18.

Found an eBay supplier which does the belts on their own for a couple of
quid. Have ordered them and will have a go.

Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice
in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60. It includes all parts except
the filters. They even give you free upgrades too - we now have the Mk2
cyclone and and upgraded brush, belt and bearings. Last time we got it
serviced was when the motor blew up (I got it 2nd-hand from a building
site where it had been royally abused with plaster dust and all sorts
of rubbish) Always wash the filter out at least every 2-3 months. That's
the biggest issue the service chap told us (same chap both times)

These Dysons are clearly not intended to be repairable - they're
throwaway crap.

They're fully servicable. Very repairable. The service chap stripped ours
down to things I never knew existed in under 5 miuntes, and 5 minutes
after that the new motor was in.

Some spares he doesn't carry - the cyclone arrived a few days later.

My experienced with Dysons is good. We bought their hand-held thing too
and it's also very good.

I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall.

Gordon

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson wrote:

Some spares he doesn't carry - the cyclone arrived a few days later.

My experienced with Dysons is good.

Same here. DC04 at least 10 years old, one £65 in home service several
years ago. Very good value, I'm not sure why Dyson don't publicise it
more, I guess because it does actually cost 'em money.

As everyone else in household only ever uses the DC04 and never empties
it, it does get rather full at times. The washable filter gets washed
when I remember that it hasn't been done for "a while".

And it does pickup more muck than any bagged vacuum I've had before and
considerably better than a Henry we had. Even with brand new bags in
either. I only wish the cannsister was bigger vac the whole (large) house
and it needs emptying...

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Cheers
Dave.

Gordon Henderson wrote:

I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall.

I wonder what it would be like to put your knob in one of those? Anyone
any practical experience of this?

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Gordon Henderson wrote:

I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom
wall.

I wonder what it would be like to put your knob in one of those? Anyone
any practical experience of this?

One of these? http://www.airblade.ca/
I'm not that religious.

In article ,
Gordon Henderson wrote:
Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice
in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60.

So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years?

My Panasonic didn't cost 120 quid some 20 years ago and has never needed a
service. Nor have I spent anything like 120 quid on new bags.

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:53:37 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice
in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60.

So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years?

Our DC04 at 10years+ has had one £65 service and no consumables.

My Panasonic didn't cost 120 quid some 20 years ago and has never
needed a service. Nor have I spent anything like 120 quid on new bags.

Other vacuum cleaners (Electrolux and Panasonic) of similar vintage and
use have gone to the dump and none of them ever worked as well as the
DC04 still does. Both bagged things would put a very fine dust into the
air as well, the DC04 doesn't.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Gordon Henderson wrote:
Dyson do an at-home service and repair. We've had our DC07 done twice
in the past 8 years. I think it's about £60.

So purchase price plus 120 quid in 8 years?

Well... It was free. However if I had actually bought it, it would
have been treated better than the place I got it from (building site),
so probably unlikely to have needed both services.

But for running costs - £60 every 3-4 years for a service/upgrade is OK
in my books.

Gordon

On 28/08/2012 22:30, Huge wrote:
On 2012-08-28, Gordon Henderson wrote:

I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall.

You also need space to store the ear defenders, something you can clean
out the evil gunge that grows in the bottom of them and paper towels to
dry your finger tips which they miss.

In short, they're utter ****.


Known as "Die Soon" in the trade. Never found one that picks up properly.

And why do they all look like space stations? It takes 5 mins to find
the bloody on/off switch.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Aug 29, 8:24*am, The Medway Handyman
wrote:
On 28/08/2012 22:30, Huge wrote: On 2012-08-28, Gordon Henderson wrote:
I'd have an air blade if I could find space to put it on the bathroom wall.

You also need space to store the ear defenders, something you can clean
out the evil gunge that grows in the bottom of them and paper towels to
dry your finger tips which they miss.

Known as "Die Soon" in the trade. *Never found one that picks up properly.

No wonder some people think Dyson are rubbish if they try to use an
Airblade hand dryer to clean the carpets! You'll find their vacuum
cleaners are considerably more effective at that task.

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/

On 28/08/2012 15:43, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
These Dysons are clearly not intended to be repairable - they're
throwaway crap.

When I called Dyson they were surprised I'd got the clutch assembly
apart, but happily sold me a belt.

Andy

On 8/28/2012 10:43 AM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Finally got the blasted thing apart after consulting YouTube. It's the
'all floors' model with the clutch and two belts. The belts are a
little slack and not very 'grippy' with a shiny surface. Cleaning them
with IPA has made them grippier and got rid of the shine, I'll stick it
back together and see how it goes.

Searching for the belts online, several spares places supply the clutch
with two belts fitted and suggest the entire clutch assembly has to be
replaced, because changing the belts needs the clutch to be dismantled.
About £18.

Found an eBay supplier which does the belts on their own for a couple of
quid. Have ordered them and will have a go.

These Dysons are clearly not intended to be repairable - they're
throwaway crap.

The old ones were UK-made, the new fancy ones are not, which may or may
not have something to do with their quality. I still have a DC01 (just
under 15 years old) - it's easy to strip down and clean out, and still
does an excellent job. I bought a pair of replacement belts when I
bought the machine, just to have on hand, but haven't needed to use them
yet.

En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

The belts are a
little slack and not very 'grippy' with a shiny surface. Cleaning them
with IPA has made them grippier and got rid of the shine, I'll stick it
back together and see how it goes.

update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked,
the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new when
I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack.

Thanks all.
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(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:54:16 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked,
the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new
when I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack.

How much is your time? Why not use the in home service?

http://www.dyson.co.uk/Support/Repai...formation.aspx

Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:54:16 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

update: cleaning the belts with IPA to restore grippiness has worked,
the thing now picks up well. I'll still replace the belts with new
when I get a round tuit as they felt a little slack.

How much is your time? Why not use the in home service?

http://www.dyson.co.uk/Support/Repai...formation.aspx

Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts.

and exceeds the cost of simple reliable cylinder cleaner.


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rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes

How much is your time? Why not use the in home service?

Last time I looked, this group was called uk.d-i-y, not uk.make-james-
dyson-even-richer.

And I like the satisfaction that comes from fixing something myself.

Flat fee of £73 inc VAT includes labour and all parts.

Excluding filters.

The only parts I need are the belts, which cost me 2 quid delivered from
fleabay, and now I've had the thing apart once, fitting them won't take
long.

There are better things I can do with 73 quid.

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Maybe you have the wrong type of dirt?
Too heavy, not enough surface area?


Brian

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

--
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(='.'=)
(")_(")

In article ,
Mike Tomlinson writes:

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

Check the shoe to hose path isn't blocked.
Saw this once on a DC04 - someone had tried sucking up large lumps
of foam rubber.

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When I was looking to buy my first vacuum cleaner for my own home,
after the previous owner's crappy Hoover had fallen to pieces, I
asked about a Dyson and my local vacuum cleaner shop said: no way,
they're crap, we're forever repairing them. They sold me a Mercedes:
http://www.killiskleaners.co.uk/inde...ypage.tpl.html
It's worked perfectly ever since, 19 years now.

You can clean it by popping the lid off, removing three screws holding
the motor in place, and then dunking the entire lot in the sink.

JGH

On Aug 28, 3:08*pm, wrote:
after the previous owner's crappy Hoover had fallen to pieces, I
asked about a Dyson and my local vacuum cleaner shop said: no way,
they're crap, we're forever repairing them.

We've got four Dysons currently: a very old DC02 cylinder (still as
good as new), an old DC03 upright (has needed a replacement wand and
canister), a DC24 'ball' upright and a little DC34 handheld. Apart
from the DIY spare part replacements for the DC03, none has given any
trouble.

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Richard Russell wrote:

On Aug 28, 3:08 pm, wrote:
after the previous owner's crappy Hoover had fallen to pieces, I
asked about a Dyson and my local vacuum cleaner shop said: no way,
they're crap, we're forever repairing them.

We've got four Dysons currently: a very old DC02 cylinder (still as
good as new), an old DC03 upright (has needed a replacement wand and
canister), a DC24 'ball' upright and a little DC34 handheld. Apart
from the DIY spare part replacements for the DC03, none has given any
trouble.

Similar here. An original DC01. Has had a new flexible tube for the wand,
and I've rewired the mains cable where it enters the machine. Nothing
else.

I've had to do that twice. Wires keep breaking at the point where it goes
inside. Apart from that, it just seems to keep going.

On Aug 28, 3:58*pm, "gogmagog" wrote:

I've had to do that twice. *Wires keep breaking at the point where it goes
inside.

Best thing about Dysons. Grab half a dozen from the tip and you can
fix at least a couple of them with just this fault.

Found myself without a vacuum at the w/e (my fault, left it 200 miles
away) and needed to buy one ASAP. Ormskirk market's range of £40
refurb Dysons (up to £75 for balls) didn't appeal, so we ended up
getting a last minute Henrietta from eBay for £42. I also like the
idea of imposing a _pink_ vacuum cleaner on the new tenant (only ever
wears black, talks incessantly about guns, mostly talks to his guns).

On 29/08/2012 5:05 a.m., Andy Dingley wrote:
On Aug 28, 3:58 pm, "gogmagog" wrote:

I've had to do that twice. Wires keep breaking at the point where it goes
inside.

Best thing about Dysons. Grab half a dozen from the tip and you can
fix at least a couple of them with just this fault.

Found myself without a vacuum at the w/e (my fault, left it 200 miles
away) and needed to buy one ASAP. Ormskirk market's range of £40
refurb Dysons (up to £75 for balls) didn't appeal, so we ended up
getting a last minute Henrietta from eBay for £42. I also like the
idea of imposing a _pink_ vacuum cleaner on the new tenant (only ever
wears black, talks incessantly about guns, mostly talks to his guns).


You let one of those "blacks" rent your place?

In message , gogmagog
writes

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Richard Russell wrote:

On Aug 28, 3:08 pm, wrote:
after the previous owner's crappy Hoover had fallen to pieces, I
asked about a Dyson and my local vacuum cleaner shop said: no way,
they're crap, we're forever repairing them.

We've got four Dysons currently: a very old DC02 cylinder (still as
good as new), an old DC03 upright (has needed a replacement wand and
canister), a DC24 'ball' upright and a little DC34 handheld. Apart
from the DIY spare part replacements for the DC03, none has given any
trouble.

Similar here. An original DC01. Has had a new flexible tube for the wand,
and I've rewired the mains cable where it enters the machine. Nothing
else.

I've had to do that twice. Wires keep breaking at the point where it goes
inside. Apart from that, it just seems to keep going.


They've enlarged the entry point to give more support to the cable.
Seems a lot better now. Main thing with servicing Dysons is having the
confidence to lever the plastic bits apart
--
hugh

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"gogmagog" wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...

Similar here. An original DC01. Has had a new flexible tube for the
wand, and I've rewired the mains cable where it enters the machine.
Nothing else.

I've had to do that twice. Wires keep breaking at the point where it
goes inside. Apart from that, it just seems to keep going.

Odd, I don't understand it really. Cable was tied off inside - so no
strain issues (at least not obviously to me), and no sharp edges where it
enters the body. It's a sort of exponential horn profile there.

I've never understood it, either. I've also had to rewire the mains plug a
few times, too, for the same reason (burned out wires). I notice that the
cable is more plasticky than rubbery, but apart from that...

On Aug 28, 5:37*pm, Tim Streater wrote:
Well perhaps some of the Dyson "experts" here who don't like them could
comment.

I believe the original fault was a poor grip on Dyson's shiny silver
cable, so the tension wasn't being relieved by the outside clamp and
was still pulling on the conductors. On some of them, the cable
between the strain relief and the terminal block was simply too tight,
owing to a millimetre-shaving exercise in the factory.

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
I've never understood it, either. I've also had to rewire the mains
plug a few times, too, for the same reason (burned out wires). I
notice that the cable is more plasticky than rubbery, but apart from
that...

Well perhaps some of the Dyson "experts" here who don't like them could
comment. Me, I'm just a user.


Cheap cable.

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En el artículo ,
Tim Streater escribió:

Similar here. An original DC01.

Just dumped my DC01 (which is why I got a used DC07). Needed the shoe,
which is no longer available as a spare part, otherwise still working
fine.

Has had a new flexible tube for the
wand, and I've rewired the mains cable where it enters the machine.

Yes, I did the cable too, then later on replaced it with a longer one.

I have a spare belt for the '01, yours if you want it.
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?

--
(\_/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

Had something similar on ours. It helped to wash the circular sponge filter
in the top. Don't know why - I'm still not sure how these things work.

On 28/08/2012 13:25, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?


I had the same problem on my DC04 - the suction was good and the bar
spun but it didn't pick-up cottons, etc. The problem was that the bar
was not spinning when in contact with the carpet - the solution was to
change the clutch assembly, which includes the two drive belts. I bought
the clutch on eBay and it took about 30 minutes to fit. It now works
like a new cleaner, despite being about 10 years old.

In article ,
Nospam wrote:
On 28/08/2012 13:25, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?


I had the same problem on my DC04 - the suction was good and the bar
spun but it didn't pick-up cottons, etc. The problem was that the bar
was not spinning when in contact with the carpet - the solution was to
change the clutch assembly, which includes the two drive belts. I bought
the clutch on eBay and it took about 30 minutes to fit. It now works
like a new cleaner, despite being about 10 years old.

My Panasonic (Which best buy) is more like 20 years old and still going
strong. With nothing so complicated as a clutch and twin drive belts. Or
rather I dunno if it has a clutch - you can stop the brushes rotating when
using the nozzle. Perhaps I'll find out when it breaks in another 20 years
time.

I can never understand this Dyson fetish. They appear to give more
problems than a pre-war Hoover. Advertising obviously works.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:16:41 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Nospam wrote:
On 28/08/2012 13:25, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Yes, it sucks but won't pick up.

DC07. Loads of suction at the wand hose and underneath at the flexible
hose that connects to the shoe. Beater bar rotates fine.

Just won't pick anything up. Googled and this seems to be a common
fault.

Any ideas please?


I had the same problem on my DC04 - the suction was good and the bar
spun but it didn't pick-up cottons, etc. The problem was that the bar
was not spinning when in contact with the carpet - the solution was to
change the clutch assembly, which includes the two drive belts. I bought
the clutch on eBay and it took about 30 minutes to fit. It now works
like a new cleaner, despite being about 10 years old.

My Panasonic (Which best buy) is more like 20 years old and still going
strong. With nothing so complicated as a clutch and twin drive belts. Or
rather I dunno if it has a clutch - you can stop the brushes rotating when
using the nozzle. Perhaps I'll find out when it breaks in another 20 years
time.

I can never understand this Dyson fetish. They appear to give more
problems than a pre-war Hoover. Advertising obviously works.

I'm delighted for those Dysonistas who have only good stories to tell
and I commiserate with those who only have bad. Me? I bought one of
the first Dyson Ballbarrows because it seemed like a good idea. It
rotted itself to death over its first winter. I promised myself then
that I'd never give James any more of my money, under any
circumstances.

Nick

On Aug 28, 4:23*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
I can never understand this Dyson fetish. They appear to give more
problems than a pre-war Hoover. Advertising obviously works.

I wouldn't say we are influenced by advertising at all. We base our
purchasing decisions on our own experiences of the brand and on Which?
reports. Dyson appears mid-table in their reliability ratings: below
Miele, Panasonic and Numatic but above Vax, Hoover and Electrolux.

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/