David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang
on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking, but
if you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree with
you then I shall not waste my time with you.

He died of lung cancer. Passive smoking was a suggested cause of that lung
cancer. That does not make it a well well documented proof.

--
Adam

On 27/08/2011 21:47, David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on
to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking, but if
you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree with you
then I shall not waste my time with you.

Roy Castle died of lung cancer, like many non smokers do, but it wasn't
caused by the myth of passive smoking.

The types of lung cancer affecting smokers & non smokers are entirely
different & occur in entirely different parts of the lung.

Inconvenient I know, but true nevertheless.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:06:16 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang
on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking, but
if you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree with
you then I shall not waste my time with you.

He died of lung cancer. Passive smoking was a suggested cause of that lung
cancer. That does not make it a well well documented proof.

He believed it himself. That's good enough for me.

On 27/08/2011 21:01, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:01:26 +0100, David Rance wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to
it and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the
world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Ronnie Scott.

Afraid not.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 27/08/2011 20:44, Interloper wrote:
Unable to think up a new insult, "The Medway Handyman" reiterated:

No, you are still a pompous ****.

OK TMH, it's been fun bandying words with an archetypical, arrogant smoker,
but I can't justify any more of today in a battle of wits against an unarmed
adversary.

Still being a pompous **** I see. At least you are consistent.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 27/08/2011 22:44, The Medway Handyman wrote:


Roy Castle died of lung cancer, like many non smokers do, but it wasn't
caused by the myth of passive smoking.

The types of lung cancer affecting smokers & non smokers are entirely
different & occur in entirely different parts of the lung.

Inconvenient I know, but true nevertheless.



Very true - there are a lot of myths about smoking, perpetuated by those
with an agenda and propagated by those who slavishly believe whatever
they're told.

For a more balanced view on the subject, the singer Joe Jackson decided
to look into REAL facts regarding smoking and wrote "Smoke Lies, and the
Nanny State"

It can be downloaded here as a doc or PDF file:

Jon

On 28/08/2011 00:40, Jon wrote:


It can be downloaded here as a doc or PDF file:


Oops, here

http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.php

The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" mocked:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.
How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d.../2/newsid_2493
000/2493567.stm

http://www.stopsmokingtoday.com/dync...e_Smoking.html

http://www.europ-assistance.com/uk/n...ml?id_actu=965

http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/25/60000...assive-smoking
-study.html

Peter (an ex-smoker)
--
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I
could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far
from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 09:42:14 +0100
"Dave East" wrote:

Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed
up with the smell of it.

Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed
it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would
be it be a waste of time?



Finally! A use for those spare windfarm fans!

R.

in 1063687 20110827 172027 The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" mocked:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

Roy Castle

In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Dean Heighington wrote:
I have my suspicions that the OT may have been
intended to spark a row, cos the solution seems quite obvious.

In one. And it worked.

No-one is going to suffer from passive smoking outdoors. Annoying,
possibly. But then so are lots of things neighbours do.

It depends on how concentrated. It can certainly be very unpleasant
going into a building past all the smokers at the door.

I can see that as you're close to them. Not so close if you're next door.
Of course blame the law for your situation. A room provided for smokers
with decent filtration and extraction (as before the law changed) saved
such things.

PS I did smoke (a pipe) until the BBC gave me Legionaires' Disease.
(1988) Not a comfortable way to give up smoking.

Oh dear - I remember that. Riverside had water evaporation air cooling
which always struck me as dodgy.

--
*One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
Dean Heighington wrote:
I have my suspicions that the OT may have been
intended to spark a row, cos the solution seems quite obvious.

In one. And it worked.

No-one is going to suffer from passive smoking outdoors. Annoying,
possibly. But then so are lots of things neighbours do.

It depends on how concentrated. It can certainly be very unpleasant
going into a building past all the smokers at the door.

I can see that as you're close to them. Not so close if you're next door.
Of course blame the law for your situation. A room provided for smokers
with decent filtration and extraction (as before the law changed) saved
such things.

PS I did smoke (a pipe) until the BBC gave me Legionaires' Disease.
(1988) Not a comfortable way to give up smoking.

Oh dear - I remember that. Riverside had water evaporation air cooling
which always struck me as dodgy.

In my case: BH

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

In article ,
Peter James wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Peter James wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

Peter
--
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I
could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far
from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975

In article ,
Peter James wrote:
One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And
even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your
life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

Of course not. Just that the link between passive smoking and lung disease
is far more difficult to prove.

You seem to think Roy Castle proves it. Despite his death being many years
ago. Where are all the other famous people so afflicted?

If one does you, I had a neighbour who worked in pubs and clubs all his
life, and didn't smoke. He didn't die of cancer or any other smoking
related disease - and at a ripe old age.

--
*A fool and his money are soon partying *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

Peter

One of my brothers in law did not smoke. He was a professional guitar
player. He died from lung cancer in his fifties after playing in
countless smoky places.

On 28/08/2011 08:33, Peter James wrote:
The Medway wrote:

On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" mocked:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.
How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.


Many non smokers die from lung cancer.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer.
Passive smoking is however a myth.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 28/08/2011 12:02, Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your
life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

Peter

One of my brothers in law did not smoke. He was a professional guitar
player. He died from lung cancer in his fifties after playing in
countless smoky places.

How many non smoking professional guitar players didn't die of lung cancer?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 27/08/2011 23:05, Huge wrote:
On 2011-08-27, David wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on
to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking, but if
you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree with you

Which he will. There's no point in arguing with junkies.


No point in arguing with anyone if you don't know the facts.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Sacha wrote:

There's no point in arguing about this at all. The OP finds the smoke
offensive and wants ideas to be rid of it. Why is not the issue.

I find fat stupid people offensive. And total vegetarian snobs. What is
the best method of blowing them away?

On 28/08/2011 15:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Sacha wrote:

There's no point in arguing about this at all. The OP finds the smoke
offensive and wants ideas to be rid of it. Why is not the issue.

I find fat stupid people offensive. And total vegetarian snobs. What is
the best method of blowing them away?

Semtex?

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer.
Passive smoking is however a myth.
I think that this will be my last posting on this subject. There's none
so bllind as those who will not see!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Smok...e-Smoking).htm

http://www.helpwithsmoking.com/passive-smoking.php

http://bookshop.rcplondon.ac.uk/details.aspx?e=305

Peter


He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I
could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far
from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975

"Dave East" wrote in message
...
Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up
with the smell of it.

Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on
the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a
waste of time?

Try it. I wish my new neighbours would just smoke rather than only occupy
their house when they are going to have a huge party. A car blocked me in,
and I asked them to move (this was at 9a.m. and he said he would only be
there for a few minutes, so I agreed ok) It was there until 7 pm. and
there were people spilling into the street talking at the top of their
voices all day.
This is a quiet area, this is the 2nd noisy party in a few weeks. They will
not fit in if they continue.
They do not even seem to be living there, just using it for parties.
It drives me wild.
Tina

On 28/08/2011 15:15, Peter James wrote:
The Medway wrote:

On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion
that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease?

There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer.
Passive smoking is however a myth.
I think that this will be my last posting on this subject. There's none
so bllind as those who will not see!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Smok...e-Smoking).htm

http://www.helpwithsmoking.com/passive-smoking.php

http://bookshop.rcplondon.ac.uk/details.aspx?e=305

Peter



http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Jon" wrote in message
...

Very true - there are a lot of myths about smoking, perpetuated by those
with an agenda and propagated by those who slavishly believe whatever
they're told.

Mostly by the addicts.


For a more balanced view on the subject, the singer Joe Jackson decided to
look into REAL facts regarding smoking and wrote "Smoke Lies, and the
Nanny State"

Addicts and their suppliers always like to look at studies and ignore those
that don't agree with their findings.
remember how many decades the smoking lobby told everyone that smoking
didn't harm the addicts?
remember how many decades the smoking lobby claimed smoking was not
addictive.
Now they claim passive smoking does no harm.

You just can't trust the smoking industry or the addicts, they lie, they lie
lots.

There is no way an addict will admit that he has helped to kill someone and
they will cling on to any sliver of evidence to say they didn't, such is
life and death.

Its pointless arguing with addicts until they are cured.


It can be downloaded here as a doc or PDF file:

Jon

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:10 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 28/08/2011 15:15, Peter James wrote:
The Medway wrote:

On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote:
Dave Plowman wrote:

In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com,
Peter wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he
worked in and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And
even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all
your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's?

I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies
assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung
disease?

There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer.
Passive smoking is however a myth.
I think that this will be my last posting on this subject. There's
none so bllind as those who will not see!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Smok...hers-(Passive-
Smoking).htm

http://www.helpwithsmoking.com/passive-smoking.php

http://bookshop.rcplondon.ac.uk/details.aspx?e=305

Peter



http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/

MRD.



--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Peter James wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in
and where smoking was rampant.
For further information see the following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even
if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in
smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms.
in the other case they are taking away your freedom.

In article , dennis@home
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter
James wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked
in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the
following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And
even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your
life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms.

not if your job depends on it.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:07:36 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Sacha wrote:

There's no point in arguing about this at all. The OP finds the smoke
offensive and wants ideas to be rid of it. Why is not the issue.

I find fat stupid people offensive. And total vegetarian snobs. What is
the best method of blowing them away?

Like many people I suffer badly from cigarette smoke. It makes me
cough and my eyes and ears itch terribly. I object to being subjected
to that. Fortunately I do not suffer for asthma like many people for
who cigarette smoke can actually be life threatening without waiting
to get cancer.
For you to equate that with a dislike of vegetarians simply underlines
your selfishness and your scorn for the wellbeing of others.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:37:43 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:





"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" mocked:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the
world will do.

Margaret Horsborough
25 Colchester Road
Leicester

My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's

A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst in
an office environment.


Was this the result of an autopsy - or just your guess.
Did it say on the death certificate : Lung Cancer caused by passive smoking?

- or are you just guessing or suggesting that Lung Cancer is *only* caused by
inhaling cigarette smoke?

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:47:18 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on
to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking


Please point out the many scientific articles which support you claim.


(Letters from his wife to the Daily Mail do not count as such)

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:44:25 +0100, Fuschia
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:06:16 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang
on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking, but
if you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree with
you then I shall not waste my time with you.

He died of lung cancer. Passive smoking was a suggested cause of that lung
cancer. That does not make it a well well documented proof.

He believed it himself. That's good enough for me.



I believe that you are a ****wit. Is that good enough for you?

Fuschia wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:06:16 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang
on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking,
but if you are simply going to contradict anyone who doesn't agree
with you then I shall not waste my time with you.

He died of lung cancer. Passive smoking was a suggested cause of
that lung cancer. That does not make it a well well documented proof.

He believed it himself. That's good enough for me.

And if he believed that fairies lived at the bottom of the garden?


--
Adam

"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:37:43 +0100, "'Mike'"
wrote:





"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" mocked:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to
it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the
world will do.

Margaret Horsborough
25 Colchester Road
Leicester

My next door neighbour when I lived in Leicester in the 60's and 70's

A non smoker, died of Lung Cancer due to secondary/passive smoking whilst
in
an office environment.


Was this the result of an autopsy - or just your guess.
Did it say on the death certificate : Lung Cancer caused by passive
smoking?

- or are you just guessing or suggesting that Lung Cancer is *only* caused
by
inhaling cigarette smoke?

Oh dear :-((

Another smoker trying to justify their addiction to the obnoxious weed.

Why can't they just admit that they are wrong, pack up their vile habit and
stop polluting the air WE breath and the pavements with their dog ends?

..

--

....................................

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

....................................

"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:47:18 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on
to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in
the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking


Please point out the many scientific articles which support you claim.


(Letters from his wife to the Daily Mail do not count as such)



Oh dear :-((

Another smoker trying to justify their addiction to the obnoxious weed.

Why can't they just admit that they are wrong, pack up their vile habit and
stop polluting the air WE breath and the pavements with their dog ends?

..

--

....................................

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.

....................................

'Mike' wrote:
"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:47:18 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Why don't you try getting a life?

Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to
hang on to it
and his health by avoiding passive smoking.

Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking?
Anywhere in the world will do.

Roy Castle, the entertainer.

Nope.

It is well documented that Roy Castle did die of passive smoking


Please point out the many scientific articles which support you
claim. (Letters from his wife to the Daily Mail do not count as such)



Oh dear :-((

Another smoker trying to justify their addiction to the obnoxious
weed.
Why can't they just admit that they are wrong, pack up their vile
habit and stop polluting the air WE breath and the pavements with
their dog ends?

Tobacco is still a legal drug.

--
Adam

On 27/08/2011 22:46, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 27/08/2011 20:44, Interloper wrote:
Unable to think up a new insult, "The Medway Handyman" reiterated:

No, you are still a pompous ****.

OK TMH, it's been fun bandying words with an archetypical, arrogant
smoker,
but I can't justify any more of today in a battle of wits against an
unarmed
adversary.

Still being a pompous **** I see. At least you are consistent.



So you think it's perfectly reasonable to inflict your smoking stench on
others?

A straight 'yes' will suffice.

--
R
Smoker's VOR

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:41:10 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

On 27/08/2011 22:46, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 27/08/2011 20:44, Interloper wrote:
Unable to think up a new insult, "The Medway Handyman" reiterated:

No, you are still a pompous ****.

OK TMH, it's been fun bandying words with an archetypical, arrogant
smoker,
but I can't justify any more of today in a battle of wits against an
unarmed
adversary.

Still being a pompous **** I see. At least you are consistent.



So you think it's perfectly reasonable to inflict your smoking stench on
others?

A straight 'yes' will suffice.

Of course he does.
He doesn't care that it causes other people to cough,make their eyes
sore and their clothes smell.
He doesn't care that it may start an asthmatic attack.
He's happy to ignore these things.
He's a smoker.

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , dennis@home
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter
James wrote:
Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere
in the world will do.

How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never
smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked
in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the
following URL's.

One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And
even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your
life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors.

that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms.

not if your job depends on it.

That's why we have a smoking ban, you can't go into smoke filled rooms
because of your job anymore.