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niavasha
 
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hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?

Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks
Harry

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hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?

Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks
Harry


Yep make a lot of noise.. pretend if need be. It will embarass them into
sorting the problem for you. Either that or you will become good friends.

;-)


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niavasha wrote:
we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our
neighbours, into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.


there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!


Unpleasant for them, as well as embarassing for you!


Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?


I would not expect any connection with the next door
house in terms of the floor running through. How are
the fittings fixed, to which wall? Did you replace
or tinker about with the floor before tiling?

I'm assuming you've got something like this:


##############P#A#R#T#Y##W#A#L#L###############
| ####C#H##B#R#S#T#### |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| BATHROOM | BEDROOM |
| | |
| | |
| | |
###############################################
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
niavasha wrote:

hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?

Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks
Harry


Are they complaining - or do you simply want to deprive them of their
entertainment? g
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niavasha wrote:
hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?

Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks
Harry


Ask them do they wan't to buy better "Sherry glasses". :-)
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niavasha wrote:

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our
neighbours, into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.


Hm, forgot to mention, did this go through the pen-pushers
at the council? If no, might be unfortunate if the neighbour
complained to them...
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niavasha wrote:

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?


I recently did up a terraced house of similar age, and while the 1st
floor was up I noticed that you could see right through under the
neighbour's floor in several places. Same above the 1st floor ceiling.
The ceiling/floor joists were actually continuous with the neighbour's
joists - in itself bad news for sound transmission amongst other things
- but anywhere where the old mortar had fallen out, there was a clear
air passage right through.

So for starters, you need to whip the floorboards up and check the
integrity of the party wall. A bummer that it's tiled, though!

David
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niavasha
 
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Hehe, thanks to all for your comments! I might have to start
straining hard...!

But in absence of that, yes, the diagram is exactly how it is. The
partition wall is
exactly half way through the chimney breast.

I'm pretty sure they must have put something ontop of the floor boards
so that the adhesive
for the tiles and the tiles could settle properly, but i'm not sure
what...

The loo is actually connected to a saniflo that sits against the
chimney breast, and the bath runs
along the left hand wall of the diagram. I think it's sitting on the
floor with a wooden frame so the
tiles can be attached. not sure if it's fixed to the wall, but probably
is.

Seeing a later post, about seeing through to the neighbours, this
sounds like a potential
issue, but i'm pretty sure we didnt see anything through when the
boards where up.
then again they were polish builders so i'm not sure everything got
communicated!

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niavasha wrote:

The loo is actually connected to a saniflo that sits against the


Ah - I imagine that's what the neighbours don't like then!

Seeing a later post, about seeing through to the neighbours, this
sounds like a potential
issue, but i'm pretty sure we didnt see anything through when the
boards where up.


Bear in mind you wouldn't expect to see daylight - any gap would be
through to the neighbour's underfloor space (dark). And you'd only need
miniscule gaps for a large amount of sound leakage.

David
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Our kitchen is below the bedroom of the nextdoor terraced house.
Certain noises do go up & down, mostly our washing dishes. The Council
inspector declaimed only one thing would stop sound, and I sort of
believe him. That is mass. Something massive is needed to soak up
sound. We settled on gravel above the ceiling, which almost works.
Phil



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In article .com
, OLDTOWNGUY writes
Our kitchen is below the bedroom of the nextdoor terraced house.
Certain noises do go up & down, mostly our washing dishes. The Council
inspector declaimed only one thing would stop sound, and I sort of
believe him. That is mass. Something massive is needed to soak up
sound. We settled on gravel above the ceiling, which almost works.


FWIW, I'd have thought sand would have done a better job as gravel will
have air gaps, I'd then apply some sort of conformal coat over the top to
definitely eliminate airborne sound.
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thanks. I was thinking of some expanding foam, i can just make a hole
in the tiles under the bath and then inject away?



fred wrote:
In article .com
, OLDTOWNGUY writes
Our kitchen is below the bedroom of the nextdoor terraced house.
Certain noises do go up & down, mostly our washing dishes. The Council
inspector declaimed only one thing would stop sound, and I sort of
believe him. That is mass. Something massive is needed to soak up
sound. We settled on gravel above the ceiling, which almost works.


FWIW, I'd have thought sand would have done a better job as gravel will
have air gaps, I'd then apply some sort of conformal coat over the top to
definitely eliminate airborne sound.
--
fred


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In article , Set Square
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
niavasha wrote:

hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

we live in a 1904 terraced house. we partitioned one of the
upstairs bedrooms, which is against the party wall of our neighbours,
into a bathroom and smaller bedroom.

there is a chimney breast that runs half way between both
new rooms.
in the bathroom, the floor is tiled with bath and loo etc.

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do? The sound presumably must be going under
the floor boards? Could we put some sound dampening material
under the boards to mute this?

Any ideas appreciated!

Thanks
Harry


Are they complaining - or do you simply want to deprive them of their
entertainment? g


We used to live in such a place and the silly giggles of the couple next
door used to have us almost roaring with laughter at their antics
whereas if it were some rhythmic thumping and yelling then we could
understand that))

Thank god for the wherewithal to by a detached gaff)
--
Tony Sayer

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In article .com,
niavasha wrote:
thanks. I was thinking of some expanding foam, i can just make a hole
in the tiles under the bath and then inject away?


Perhaps a touch inventive but, as your neighbours have the problem, would it
be possible to do the work from their side of the divide?

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Eat more fibre?



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niavasha wrote:

hi all

nightmare of nightmares, the neighbours can hear us!

.....

However, owing to another problem with the neighbour they
just informed us that they can hear everything we do in
the bathroom as their bedroom is on the other side!

Is there anything we can do?


Shag in the bedroom instead.

And insatll recording equipment in YOUR bathrooom.

And blackmail them.
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