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Matty F
wibbled on Friday 23 July 2010 22:54 On Jul 24, 6:04 am, Steve Walker wrote: I should really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all. Why do some people like to move other people's things around and forget where they put them? Including stacking things on top of each other, like putting things on top of important things like the TV remote or car keys. Now add the kids and you're doomed. I never lose anything that's lying around in the roof spaces. And keys and and paper are safe since I bough a job lot of ******* string neodynium magnets and stuck them to the fridge. But try to hold onto the TV remote for a day... -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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Matty F wrote:
On Jul 24, 6:04 am, Steve Walker wrote: I should really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all. Why do some people like to move other people's things around and forget where they put them? Including stacking things on top of each other, like putting things on top of important things like the TV remote or car keys. Hoy! Are you seeing my wife? On second thoughts, you can't be: her best triumphs are to place tall stacks of heavy objects such as books on top of thinwalled cardboard boxes crushing them and their contents! She has learnt not to move things but has acquired the skill of placing stuff over them over the past ~40 years. "Darling, do you know where I've put my glasses?" as I grope around the house trying to find them! No, not hidden, not crushed, just misplaced by me. Doh! |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember PeterC saying something like: A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. I have one, in common with lots of other people. I'll bet you don't. I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke. I'll bet it isn't. |
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On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote:
On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. |
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On 23 July, 21:22, PeterC wrote:
I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke. Funny that, my spoke screwdriver has a spike in the middle, so that it locates in the spoke nut. It's only for initial assembly of a wheel, truing uses a Spokey on the nut flats. How many spokes end up sticking out past the nut, and what sort of rim tape does that need? |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. geof must be taking his pills, at least for now. |
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On 24/07/2010 11:54, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 16:41, wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. Morphed into Harry? |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:56:42 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 21:22, PeterC wrote: I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke. Funny that, my spoke screwdriver has a spike in the middle, so that it locates in the spoke nut. It's only for initial assembly of a wheel, truing uses a Spokey on the nut flats. How many spokes end up sticking out past the nut, and what sort of rim tape does that need? It's for the last few turns as it's much quicker than a key. I first made it when I used tubs. for TTs, then it was OK for rims such as Mavic M3CD, MA40 etc. There was often a little bit through when dishing was extreme (used to make a lot of effort to gain a few mm on the drive side to reduce it) and anyway, once the spoke is to the bottom of the slot the modded 'driver's handy. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. geof must be taking his pills, at least for now. What are you ranting on about now, retard ? -- geoff |
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In message , Roger Chapman
writes On 24/07/2010 11:54, Andy Dingley wrote: On 23 July, 16:41, wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. Morphed into Harry? Harry and dennis, eh ? -- geoff |
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Tim Lamb writes: Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a correct alternative. I bought several tins of paint a few months back for some outdoor work. I noticed on one of them it said "do not open with a screwdriver". Well, I already had. It didn't say how you should open the tin. Actually, the metal tab on the triagular gas meter box key is perfect. It is wide and slightly curved, like the edge of the tin. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:56:03 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:
I bought several tins of paint a few months back for some outdoor work. I noticed on one of them it said "do not open with a screwdriver". Well, I already had. It didn't say how you should open the tin. Hum, quite. How are you supposed to open these containers if you can't use a lever? Whats the problem with a screwdriver? I am aware that the occasional lid will pop off rather than just come loose but that's why you have your other hand over the top of the can... One would also use a fairly large flat bladed screwdriver not a tiddly one for doing screws in plug tops. I guess it's the nanny state and ares covering manufacturers protecting themselves from the clueless. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. geof must be taking his pills, at least for now. What are you ranting on about now, retard ? -- geoff He is such a retard that he cannot spell geoff. Adam |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:E0I2o.218250$U%7.156428@hurricane... "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. geof must be taking his pills, at least for now. What are you ranting on about now, retard ? -- geoff He is such a retard that he cannot spell geoff. Adam There are too many letters in geoff for you so I had to shorten it. Shouldn't you be out annoying your neighbours or are you having a day off? |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:E0I2o.218250$U%7.156428@hurricane... "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote: On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote: How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? He probably effed off because he was a plantpot. geof must be taking his pills, at least for now. What are you ranting on about now, retard ? -- geoff He is such a retard that he cannot spell geoff. Adam There are too many letters in geoff for you so I had to shorten it. Shouldn't you be out annoying your neighbours or are you having a day off? You are a cnt. Adam |
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Huge wrote:
On 2010-07-24, Dave Liquorice wrote: Hum, quite. How are you supposed to open these containers if you can't use a lever? Whats the problem with a screwdriver? I expect some pillock slipped and cut themselves and then sued. The instruction about screwdrivers is to prevent a repeat, not a real directive. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:44:13 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
Huge wrote: On 2010-07-24, Dave Liquorice wrote: Hum, quite. How are you supposed to open these containers if you can't use a lever? Whats the problem with a screwdriver? I expect some pillock slipped and cut themselves and then sued. The instruction about screwdrivers is to prevent a repeat, not a real directive. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q That looks like a crude version of the smooth, rounded tyre lever that I use. Gave up with screwdrivers on modern paint cans because the metal is too thin - had to use a plastic stirrer on one because metal was deforming the side of the can where it touched. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:44:13 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q Looks like a large, bent, worn, screwdriver to me. B-) It's also unavailable or no longer listed from the handful of stores that returned it from google. Bit woorying that it has to have what it's for embossed on the handle, but then for the clueless... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Jul 25, 6:34 pm, PeterC wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q That looks like a crude version of the smooth, rounded tyre lever that I use. Gave up with screwdrivers on modern paint cans because the metal is too thin - had to use a plastic stirrer on one because metal was deforming the side of the can where it touched. If the can is very thin I use a screwdriver at 0 degees rather than 90 degree angle to the edge of the can. Lever up a little bit around half of the can and the lid doesn't get damaged. I don't know how to explain this but when you do it it is really the only sensible way to open a paint can. |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:
If the can is very thin I use a screwdriver at 0 degees rather than 90 degree angle to the edge of the can. Lever up a little bit around half of the can and the lid doesn't get damaged. I don't know how to explain this but when you do it it is really the only sensible way to open a paint can. The word you are looking for is "tangent". Have the screwdriver at a tangent to the rim and yes that is a more controlled method of opening. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:
On Jul 25, 6:34 pm, PeterC wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q That looks like a crude version of the smooth, rounded tyre lever that I use. Gave up with screwdrivers on modern paint cans because the metal is too thin - had to use a plastic stirrer on one because metal was deforming the side of the can where it touched. If the can is very thin I use a screwdriver at 0 degees rather than 90 degree angle to the edge of the can. Lever up a little bit around half of the can and the lid doesn't get damaged. I don't know how to explain this but when you do it it is really the only sensible way to open a paint can. Yes, go round doing a bit at a time. The tyre lever doesn't have any sharp corners or edges and it wider than a screwdriver so I prefer it. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q Looks like a large, bent, worn, screwdriver to me. B-) It's also unavailable or no longer listed from the handful of stores that returned it from google. Bit woorying that it has to have what it's for embossed on the handle, but then for the clueless... When it finally ends up in the kitchen Drawer-Fulla-Crap, it might be some years before it's found and the inscription might prevent it being thrown out. |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT), NT
wrote: "The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and 4% trying oven gloves. Isn't this just lying with statistics? It doesn't say what the job is. I suspect "it" is replies to a list of different jobs because what one job could you complete with oven gloves or shoes or pennies or fingernails? I recently asked how to cut celotex and kitchen knives were recommended, so in the right context some of these solutions aren't as daft as the report makes out. I was going to suggest whether you could you use pennies beneath a row of tiles but I see other people have beaten me to it and already suggested they might be legitimately used as spacers. |
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