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Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)



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Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)



"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails
and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose
to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and
4% trying oven gloves.

Focus project manager Nasim Valli said: "The problem seems to be that
most of us simply don't own the right DIY tools, or in some cases any
at all. 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


Damn!


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"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails
and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose
to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and
4% trying oven gloves.


"Tool store in tool selling shocker!"

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"Tool store in tool selling shocker!"


"Clueless numpties found shopping at Focus!"
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"24% use pennies."

My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of
old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for
the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was
hanging a new door.


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"24% use pennies."

My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of
old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for
the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was
hanging a new door.


Agreed. But I took that comment as meaning that they used them to try to
turn screws?

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:52:29 -0700 (PDT), joeys worldcup wrote:

"24% use pennies."

My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of
old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for
the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was
hanging a new door.


For some screw-heads a 20p piece is almost a perfect fit.
An old mini-can opener that I keep in my wallet is a good screwdriver for
odd things - adjusted gear mechs. several times with it.

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On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote:

48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Matty F
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On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote:

48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!


12km?
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48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!




Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from
next door?

Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears?

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On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
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Matty F wrote:

On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote:


48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!


Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from
next door?

Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears?


None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem.
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On 23/07/2010 08:23, Matty F wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
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Matty wrote:

On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote:


48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!


Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from
next door?

Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears?


None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem.


To kill the wireless signal so the kids upstairs can't use it after bedtime?

When I decided to go all wired I was surprised there was no option for
turning the wireless signal off. Even with all the various protective
measures available set I was dubious as to whether some of the local
students might have found it a challenge to hack.
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48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!


Making an omni-directional slot aerial out of the omni-directional aerial on
the modem?


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On 23/07/2010 06:35, Matty F wrote:
On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote:

48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of
us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!"


I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why!


An RF reflector?

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote:
On Jul 22, 11:38Â*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
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Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)



"The survey revealed ... using kitchen cutlery ...4% trying oven

gloves.

Focus project manager Nasim Valli said: "The problem seems to be

... and even saucepans!"

Maybe the problem is that Focus shopkeepers are confused about the
difference between DIY and cookery? It would explain the utter
lack of knowledge in their staff.

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On 23 July, 00:02, NT wrote:

"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails
and 24% use pennies.


How many used a hacksaw for pushfit?
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On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 00:02, NT wrote:

"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails
and 24% use pennies.


How many used a hacksaw for pushfit?


PMSL !!!!!!!!

Has he popped in recently ?
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On 23 July, 16:41, Jethro wrote:
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How many used a hacksaw for pushfit?


PMSL !!!!!!!!

Has he popped in recently ?


He probably effed off because he was a plantpot.
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How many used a hacksaw for pushfit?


PMSL !!!!!!!!

Has he popped in recently ?


He probably effed off because he was a plantpot.


geof must be taking his pills, at least for now.

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On 24/07/2010 11:54, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 16:41, wrote:
On 23 July, 10:31, Andy wrote:


How many used a hacksaw for pushfit?


PMSL !!!!!!!!

Has he popped in recently ?


He probably effed off because he was a plantpot.


Morphed into Harry?


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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT), NT
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"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails
and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose
to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and
4% trying oven gloves.


Isn't this just lying with statistics? It doesn't say what the job is.
I suspect "it" is replies to a list of different jobs because what one
job could you complete with oven gloves or shoes or pennies or
fingernails?

I recently asked how to cut celotex and kitchen knives were
recommended, so in the right context some of these solutions aren't as
daft as the report makes out. I was going to suggest whether you could
you use pennies beneath a row of tiles but I see other people have
beaten me to it and already suggested they might be legitimately used
as spacers.
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"The Medway Handyman" writes:
Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)


I read that as
"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit
to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their
fingernails and 24% use penises."

Talk about a pointless non-story though. I guess they couldn't
think of something useful to publish.

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)


A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.
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On Jul 23, 6:52*am, Grimly Curmudgeon
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Good news for me :-)


http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578


Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)


A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.


I have one, in common with lots of other people. For doing up Romford
axle nuts.

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On 23 July, 10:00, "Man at B&Q" wrote:

A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.


I have one, in common with lots of other people. For doing up Romford
axle nuts.


Now there's a name I've not heard of in years.


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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Man at B&Q"
saying something like:

A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.


I have one, in common with lots of other people.


I'll bet you don't.
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:23:17 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Man at B&Q"
saying something like:

A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.


I have one, in common with lots of other people.


I'll bet you don't.


I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the
nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke.
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember PeterC
saying something like:

A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast.

I have one, in common with lots of other people.


I'll bet you don't.


I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the
nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke.


I'll bet it isn't.
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On 23 July, 21:22, PeterC wrote:

I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the
nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke.


Funny that, my spoke screwdriver has a spike in the middle, so that it
locates in the spoke nut. It's only for initial assembly of a wheel,
truing uses a Spokey on the nut flats.

How many spokes end up sticking out past the nut, and what sort of rim
tape does that need?
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Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

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I have used kitchen knives (the bluntish sort) when I needed a wedge, I
would be amongst the 84% if they asked me.
Spoons are good for removing lids too.



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On 2010-07-23 08:37:53 +0100, dennis@home said:

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http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

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I have used kitchen knives (the bluntish sort) when I needed a wedge, I
would be amongst the 84% if they asked me.


Exactly. Regularly use blunt knives for opening tins.

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Good news for me :-)

http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578

Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)

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Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)

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Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber.


Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the
use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a
correct alternative.

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Good news for me :-)


http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578


Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-)


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Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber.


Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the
use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a
correct alternative.

regards


I prefer paint scrapers, with a wider blade they're less likely to
bend the lid, and can thus apply more opening force.


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http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578
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Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber.

Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the
use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a
correct alternative.

regards


I prefer paint scrapers, with a wider blade they're less likely to
bend the lid, and can thus apply more opening force.


Surely a tin opener, or an angle grinder?


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Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the
use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a
correct alternative.


I bought several tins of paint a few months back for some outdoor
work. I noticed on one of them it said "do not open with a
screwdriver". Well, I already had. It didn't say how you should
open the tin. Actually, the metal tab on the triagular gas meter
box key is perfect. It is wide and slightly curved, like the
edge of the tin.

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:56:03 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

I bought several tins of paint a few months back for some outdoor
work. I noticed on one of them it said "do not open with a
screwdriver". Well, I already had. It didn't say how you should
open the tin.


Hum, quite. How are you supposed to open these containers if you
can't use a lever?

Whats the problem with a screwdriver? I am aware that the occasional
lid will pop off rather than just come loose but that's why you have
your other hand over the top of the can... One would also use a
fairly large flat bladed screwdriver not a tiddly one for doing
screws in plug tops.

I guess it's the nanny state and ares covering manufacturers
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Hum, quite. How are you supposed to open these containers if you
can't use a lever?

Whats the problem with a screwdriver?


I expect some pillock slipped and cut themselves and then sued. The
instruction about screwdrivers is to prevent a repeat, not a real
directive.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Pain.../dp/B0001IWE4Q
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"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job"

Well that's not exactly suprising. I often use knives on the screws of
the kids toys' battery boxes, simply because I'd have to get the key for
the garage, go out there and get rained on, climb past the kit-car, etc.
just to get a screwdriver for the sake of one small screw. I should
really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I
can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all.

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I should
really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I
can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all.


Why do some people like to move other people's things around and
forget where they put them? Including stacking things on top of each
other, like putting things on top of important things like the TV
remote or car keys.


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