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Good news for me :-)
http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Jul 22, 11:38*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) "The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and 4% trying oven gloves. Focus project manager Nasim Valli said: "The problem seems to be that most of us simply don't own the right DIY tools, or in some cases any at all. 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" Damn! NT |
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NT wrote:
"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use pennies. Some of those unable to find the right tool chose to use a nail file instead (14%), with 13% choosing to use shoes and 4% trying oven gloves. "Tool store in tool selling shocker!" Theo |
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In article QN32o.256060$vB5.37476@hurricane,
"The Medway Handyman" writes: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) I read that as "The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use penises." Talk about a pointless non-story though. I guess they couldn't think of something useful to publish. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote:
48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Matty F saying something like: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! 12km? |
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Matty F wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from next door? Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears? Darren |
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On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote:
In article , Matty F wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from next door? Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears? None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news:QN32o.256060$vB5.37476@hurricane... Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) I have used kitchen knives (the bluntish sort) when I needed a wedge, I would be amongst the 84% if they asked me. Spoons are good for removing lids too. |
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"Matty F" wrote in message ... On Jul 23, 11:02 am, NT wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Making an omni-directional slot aerial out of the omni-directional aerial on the modem? |
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On 23/07/2010 08:23, Matty F wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote: In , Matty wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from next door? Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears? None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem. To kill the wireless signal so the kids upstairs can't use it after bedtime? When I decided to go all wired I was surprised there was no option for turning the wireless signal off. Even with all the various protective measures available set I was dubious as to whether some of the local students might have found it a challenge to hack. |
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On 22 July, 23:38, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber. |
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On 2010-07-23 08:37:53 +0100, dennis@home said:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news:QN32o.256060$vB5.37476@hurricane... Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) I have used kitchen knives (the bluntish sort) when I needed a wedge, I would be amongst the 84% if they asked me. Exactly. Regularly use blunt knives for opening tins. |
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On Jul 23, 6:52*am, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. I have one, in common with lots of other people. For doing up Romford axle nuts. MBQ |
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On Jul 23, 7:42 pm, Invisible Man wrote:
On 23/07/2010 08:23, Matty F wrote: On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote: In , Matty wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from next door? Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears? None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem. To kill the wireless signal so the kids upstairs can't use it after bedtime? When I decided to go all wired I was surprised there was no option for turning the wireless signal off. Even with all the various protective measures available set I was dubious as to whether some of the local students might have found it a challenge to hack. Wrong! He's downstairs! When he's used up all my bandwidth and we are back on dialup speed, the modem seems to give precedence to the wireless connection ahead of the ethernet cable connection. So his Youtube download stops a quite small jpg from arriving in my machine. But not with a saucepan over the modem! |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote:
On Jul 22, 11:38Â*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) "The survey revealed ... using kitchen cutlery ...4% trying oven gloves. Focus project manager Nasim Valli said: "The problem seems to be ... and even saucepans!" Maybe the problem is that Focus shopkeepers are confused about the difference between DIY and cookery? It would explain the utter lack of knowledge in their staff. -- www.thisreallyismyhost.99k.org/page1.php |
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On 23 July, 10:00, "Man at B&Q" wrote:
A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. I have one, in common with lots of other people. For doing up Romford axle nuts. Now there's a name I've not heard of in years. |
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On 23 July, 00:02, NT wrote:
"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use pennies. How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? |
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On 23 July, 00:44, Theo Markettos
wrote: "Tool store in tool selling shocker!" "Clueless numpties found shopping at Focus!" |
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In message
, harry writes On 22 July, 23:38, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber. Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a correct alternative. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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"24% use pennies."
My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was hanging a new door. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Man at B&Q" saying something like: A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. I have one, in common with lots of other people. I'll bet you don't. |
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"joeys worldcup" wrote in message ... "24% use pennies." My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was hanging a new door. Agreed. But I took that comment as meaning that they used them to try to turn screws? JW |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 23/07/2010 00:02, NT wrote: On Jul 22, 11:38 pm, "The Medway Handyman"davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) "The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to When they day "DIY enthusiasts" do they perhaps mean "the first plebs we asked, regardless of whether they professed to know anything about DIY"? Probably the ones who needed to ask Focus DIY staff for help. |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:52:29 -0700 (PDT), joeys worldcup wrote:
"24% use pennies." My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was hanging a new door. For some screw-heads a 20p piece is almost a perfect fit. An old mini-can opener that I keep in my wallet is a good screwdriver for odd things - adjusted gear mechs. several times with it. It's not what you use but knowing how to use what's to hand and it's limitations. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On 23 July, 13:09, PeterC wrote:
For some screw-heads a 20p piece is almost a perfect fit. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...=1,43411,43417 |
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On Jul 23, 1:05*pm, "John Whitworth"
wrote: "joeys worldcup" wrote in message ... "24% use pennies." My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of old pennies in his toolkit. *They were just the right thickness, for the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was hanging a new door. Agreed. But I took that comment as meaning that they used them to try to turn screws? JW No, pennies were too thick, he used ha'pennies for that. ;-) |
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On 23 July, 10:31, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 00:02, NT wrote: "The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to using kitchen cutlery to finish a job, while 43% use their fingernails and 24% use pennies. How many used a hacksaw for pushfit? PMSL !!!!!!!! Has he popped in recently ? |
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John Rumm wrote:
On 23/07/2010 06:35, Matty F wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! as a "cantenna"... Surely a "pantenna" in that case Bob |
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On Jul 23, 10:43*am, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , harry writes On 22 July, 23:38, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber. Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a correct alternative. regards I prefer paint scrapers, with a wider blade they're less likely to bend the lid, and can thus apply more opening force. NT |
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NT wrote:
On Jul 23, 10:43 am, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , harry writes On 22 July, 23:38, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam- blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Good news for me :-) http://www.diyweek.net/news/news.asp?id=13578 Unlikely to be a problem to the people here :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Electric knife good for cutting foam rubber. Many years ago, there was a Health and Safety poster discouraging the use of a screwdriver to open a tin of paint. They didn't suggest a correct alternative. regards I prefer paint scrapers, with a wider blade they're less likely to bend the lid, and can thus apply more opening force. Surely a tin opener, or an angle grinder? NT |
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Invisible Man wrote:
.... When I decided to go all wired I was surprised there was no option for turning the wireless signal off. Even with all the various protective measures available set I was dubious as to whether some of the local students might have found it a challenge to hack. The Netgear DGN2000 has a wireless on/off button. Colin Bignell |
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"The survey revealed that a whopping 84% of DIY enthusiasts admit to
using kitchen cutlery to finish a job" Well that's not exactly suprising. I often use knives on the screws of the kids toys' battery boxes, simply because I'd have to get the key for the garage, go out there and get rained on, climb past the kit-car, etc. just to get a screwdriver for the sake of one small screw. I should really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all. SteveW --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Invisible Man wrote:
On 23/07/2010 08:23, Matty F wrote: On Jul 23, 5:58 pm, dmc@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) wrote: In , Matty wrote: On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! Focusing it to increase distance? Shielding to reduce interference from next door? Building a microwave deathray with 500 focused netgears? None of those. The saucepan is sometimes put over the entire modem. To kill the wireless signal so the kids upstairs can't use it after bedtime? When I decided to go all wired I was surprised there was no option for turning the wireless signal off. Even with all the various protective measures available set I was dubious as to whether some of the local students might have found it a challenge to hack. All the wireless/wired routers that I've seen have had an option for turning off the wireless section completely, however you do have to log in to their internal webserver and select the option from the configuration menus. SteveW --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 23/07/2010 06:35, Matty F wrote:
On Jul 23, 11:02 am, wrote: 48% of us own 10 or less tools, which is probably why some of us have resorted to using our toothbrushes and even saucepans!" I use a saucepan with my wireless modem. I bet nobody can guess why! An RF reflector? Dave |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:23:17 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Man at B&Q" saying something like: A "slotted screwdriver" sounds like a rare beast. I have one, in common with lots of other people. I'll bet you don't. I do - a screwdriver with a slot cut in it for doing up spokes, so that the nipple can be screwed down past the end of the spoke. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:32:56 -0700 (PDT), Andy Dingley wrote:
On 23 July, 13:09, PeterC wrote: For some screw-heads a 20p piece is almost a perfect fit. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...=1,43411,43417 Not bad for range, but a constant-diameter polygon has less radius of curvature so is better in a slot. It's also more common. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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Kevin
wibbled on Friday 23 July 2010 16:34 On Jul 23, 1:05 pm, "John Whitworth" wrote: "joeys worldcup" wrote in message ... "24% use pennies." My father, a time-served joiner (now retired) always kept a couple of old pennies in his toolkit. They were just the right thickness, for the gap required between the top of a door and the casing when he was hanging a new door. Agreed. But I took that comment as meaning that they used them to try to turn screws? JW No, pennies were too thick, he used ha'pennies for that. ;-) What would be best now? 50p or £2 coin? -- Tim Watts Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer. |
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On Jul 24, 6:04 am, Steve Walker
wrote: I should really keep some in the house, but my wife moves everything and then I can't find it, whereas she doesn't venture into the garage at all. Why do some people like to move other people's things around and forget where they put them? Including stacking things on top of each other, like putting things on top of important things like the TV remote or car keys. |
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