Until recently I've always used the traditional hide "gardening" gloves for
handling blocks, etc, and put up with cuts and splinters as an inevitable
consequence of most lighter building DIY because you have to take them off
for anything more delicate.

But this type

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74540/...uilders-Gloves

is *really* good (have used similar non-screwfix from local builders'
merchant, not just pushing the Screwfix product).

You get enough "touch" to keep them on while drilling brickwork, plugging
and screwing, sawing timber and doing basic carpentry with wood chisels,
etc. I've been climbing up and down a scaffold tower while repairing and
painting facia boards, fitting new guttering and downpipes, and you can just
leave them on for everything.

Also, they come up more or less as new if you sling them in the washing
machine at the end of the day with the jeans and boiler suit.

Really impressed.

newshound wrote:
Until recently I've always used the traditional hide "gardening"
gloves for handling blocks, etc, and put up with cuts and splinters
as an inevitable consequence of most lighter building DIY because you
have to take them off for anything more delicate.

But this type

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74540/...uilders-Gloves

is *really* good (have used similar non-screwfix from local builders'
merchant, not just pushing the Screwfix product).

You get enough "touch" to keep them on while drilling brickwork,
plugging and screwing, sawing timber and doing basic carpentry with
wood chisels, etc. I've been climbing up and down a scaffold tower
while repairing and painting facia boards, fitting new guttering and
downpipes, and you can just leave them on for everything.

Also, they come up more or less as new if you sling them in the
washing machine at the end of the day with the jeans and boiler suit.

Really impressed.

They sell these as gardening gloves around here - I buy them all the time,
50p a pair.
They are normal cotton gloves but are partially coated with silicone
rubber....this peels off after a while, but they last quite a long time.

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

"newshound" wrote in message
...
Until recently I've always used the traditional hide "gardening" gloves
for handling blocks, etc, and put up with cuts and splinters as an
inevitable consequence of most lighter building DIY because you have to
take them off for anything more delicate.

But this type

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74540/...uilders-Gloves

is *really* good (have used similar non-screwfix from local builders'
merchant, not just pushing the Screwfix product).

You get enough "touch" to keep them on while drilling brickwork, plugging
and screwing, sawing timber and doing basic carpentry with wood chisels,
etc. I've been climbing up and down a scaffold tower while repairing and
painting facia boards, fitting new guttering and downpipes, and you can
just leave them on for everything.

Also, they come up more or less as new if you sling them in the washing
machine at the end of the day with the jeans and boiler suit.

Really impressed.

I like Kevlar gloves, which are similar, but provide good cut protection as
well.

Colin Bignell

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:36:26 +0100, newshound wrote:

is *really* good (have used similar non-screwfix from local builders'
merchant, not just pushing the Screwfix product).

How well do they stand up to handling blocks? I'm looking for a pair
that will take more than 1/2 a days dry stone walling before a hole
appears in the finger or thumb tips.

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Cheers
Dave.

In article et,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
How well do they stand up to handling blocks? I'm looking for a pair
that will take more than 1/2 a days dry stone walling before a hole
appears in the finger or thumb tips.

They are the standard you see used on building sites round here that
enforce H&S. One pair with me survived cutting out a large hole in a brick
wall for a bigger window and all the associated re-building so certainly
not a too big expense. I use them for 'our' rigging work too - much better
than the leather ones.

--
*A bicycle can't stand alone because it's two tyred.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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newshound wrote:

But this type

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74540/...Clothing/Glove
s/Builders-Gloves

is *really* good

I prefer chrome leather welding gloves. As chosen by Clarkson, J. for
use when stoking boilers.

In article ,
Steve Firth wrote:
newshound wrote:

But this type

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/74540/...Clothing/Glove
s/Builders-Gloves

is *really* good

I prefer chrome leather welding gloves. As chosen by Clarkson, J. for
use when stoking boilers.

Fine for lifting blocks - but not so good for using tools.

Wonder if the make-up girl who applied the 'soot' was sat among the coals?

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*Am I ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I prefer chrome leather welding gloves. As chosen by Clarkson, J. for
use when stoking boilers.

Fine for lifting blocks - but not so good for using tools.

I'll use riggers gloves for tools, depending on the type of tool.

Wonder if the make-up girl who applied the 'soot' was sat among the coals?

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate. I noticed that Clarkson only did a tiny bit of shovelling, I
doubt that he actually shovelled 6 tonnes of coal.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:03:28 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate. I noticed that Clarkson only did a tiny bit of shovelling, I
doubt that he actually shovelled 6 tonnes of coal.

I doubt it as well apart from the physical effort firing a steam loco
is quite a skilled job. It may be a small hole but the grate behind
it is quite big (50 sq ft in the spec that's somthing 5' wide and 10'
long...) and you need to keep it burning all over not just a little
bit by the door.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:10:10 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

They are the standard you see used on building sites round here that
enforce H&S. One pair with me survived cutting out a large hole in a
brick wall for a bigger window and all the associated re-building so
certainly not a too big expense.

I might have to give 'em a go. Handling sandstone and limestone lumps
non-stop for a few hours is quite hard on gloves.

I use them for 'our' rigging work too - much better than the leather
ones.

I use a cheap pair of gardening gloves but in the wet you do end up
with damp hands. I can see these dipped things been better at being
water proof and easier to clean the **** (literally) off.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Steve Firth wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I prefer chrome leather welding gloves. As chosen by Clarkson, J. for
use when stoking boilers.
Fine for lifting blocks - but not so good for using tools.

I'll use riggers gloves for tools, depending on the type of tool.

Wonder if the make-up girl who applied the 'soot' was sat among the coals?

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate. I noticed that Clarkson only did a tiny bit of shovelling, I
doubt that he actually shovelled 6 tonnes of coal.

Impossible to shovel 6 tonnes of coal unless you do it daily.

I belive te record is 30 tonnes of ballast by an Irish Navvy.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate. I noticed that Clarkson only did a tiny bit of shovelling, I
doubt that he actually shovelled 6 tonnes of coal.

Impossible to shovel 6 tonnes of coal unless you do it daily.

As a summer job I used to work in a cotton mill shovelling 6 to 20
tonnes of wet cotton per day. It takes about a week or doing it 8 hours
per day to get into it.

I belive te record is 30 tonnes of ballast by an Irish Navvy.

Hell. Although some of the blokes I used to work with were Irish Navvies
so I can believe it.

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from The Natural Philosopher contains these words:

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate. I noticed that Clarkson only did a tiny bit of shovelling, I
doubt that he actually shovelled 6 tonnes of coal.

I was under the impression that back in the days of steam the standard
footplate crew was driver and fireman.

Impossible to shovel 6 tonnes of coal unless you do it daily.

It is a very long time since I shovelled any quantity of coal. (I spent
a weekend shifting 20 tons up to a mountaineering club hut in my
Landrover with very little assistance circa 1970). However ISTR that it
is harder to shovel than ballast particularly when you don't have a
smooth surface to shovel it off. Clarkson of course would have had a
tender floor to shovel off but he doesn't look the type to relish
physical exercise.

I belive te record is 30 tonnes of ballast by an Irish Navvy.

My experience with ballast is rather more recent. I have just spread 66
tonnes of crushed limestone over my access track and yard, nominally 2"
deep but in places rather deeper where the underlying surface was
uneven. It took me the best part of 3 days to deal with each 20 tonne
load. Depends what you do with it but I think even Clarkson could manage
6 tonnes of ballast a day if he didn't have to move it very far.

--
Roger Chapman

The message et
from "Dave Liquorice" contains these words:

They are the standard you see used on building sites round here that
enforce H&S. One pair with me survived cutting out a large hole in a
brick wall for a bigger window and all the associated re-building so
certainly not a too big expense.

I might have to give 'em a go. Handling sandstone and limestone lumps
non-stop for a few hours is quite hard on gloves.

I use them for 'our' rigging work too - much better than the leather
ones.

I use a cheap pair of gardening gloves but in the wet you do end up
with damp hands. I can see these dipped things been better at being
water proof and easier to clean the **** (literally) off.

I have been using the Ultimate Riggers gloves for some years now. I find
they perform much better with gritstone than the cheap gloves which have
been known to wear out almost instantly. Like all leather gloves they go
hard when they dry out after getting wet so I try to avoid getting the
newer pairs wet.

--
Roger Chapman

In article et, Dave
Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:10:10 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

They are the standard you see used on building sites round here that
enforce H&S. One pair with me survived cutting out a large hole in a
brick wall for a bigger window and all the associated re-building so
certainly not a too big expense.

I might have to give 'em a go. Handling sandstone and limestone lumps
non-stop for a few hours is quite hard on gloves.

I use them for 'our' rigging work too - much better than the leather
ones.

I use a cheap pair of gardening gloves but in the wet you do end up with
damp hands. I can see these dipped things been better at being water
proof and easier to clean the **** (literally) off.

They're also cheaper - if you buy them at the right place - than most
gardening gloves. So a win win situation as our pal dribble would say.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Roger wrote:
Clarkson of course would have had a
tender floor to shovel off but he doesn't look the type to relish
physical exercise.

Of course not. He's an actor. You could count on the fingers of half a
hand the ones who are actually proficient at the things they portray.

--
*If at first you don't succeed, avoid skydiving.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Clarkson of course would have had a
tender floor to shovel off but he doesn't look the type to relish
physical exercise.

Of course not. He's an actor. You could count on the fingers of half a
hand the ones who are actually proficient at the things they portray.

I thought Clarkson was supposed to be a journalist.

As to actors just the occasional one might be competent. A couple come
to mind. Richard Todd; ok so he couldn't fly a Lancaster but ISTR that
he came very close to playing his army officer self in one or more of
the D Day epics he was in. And then there was Audie Murphy, allegedly
the most decorated American soldier of WW2, who did play himself.

--
Roger Chapman

Roger wrote:

And then there was Audie Murphy, allegedly the most decorated American
soldier of WW2, who did play himself.

Badly.

In article ,
Roger wrote:
The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Clarkson of course would have had a
tender floor to shovel off but he doesn't look the type to relish
physical exercise.

Of course not. He's an actor. You could count on the fingers of half a
hand the ones who are actually proficient at the things they portray.

I thought Clarkson was supposed to be a journalist.

Same difference.

As to actors just the occasional one might be competent. A couple come
to mind. Richard Todd; ok so he couldn't fly a Lancaster but ISTR that
he came very close to playing his army officer self in one or more of
the D Day epics he was in.

Well most of his age would have been in the army, etc.

And then there was Audie Murphy, allegedly
the most decorated American soldier of WW2, who did play himself.

Standing on a box most of the time. Allegedly.

So that's two...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Steve Firth wrote:

Heh. I'm astounded they could get a cameraman, sound recordist and what
looked like five blokes actually needed to run the train on the
footplate.

I doubt the five blokes were needed for the train, that's just the
number that managed to blag a space in the thing for a Spotter's dream
day out :-)

Pete

I like Kevlar gloves, which are similar, but provide good cut protection
as well.

Colin Bignell


Agree, I have used those too and they are almost certainly tougher and more
abrasion and cut resistant, but they are quite expensive and don't give you
the same "touch". Also they are probably not so good for the mistake when
you clump a fingertip between two blocks. Obviously, it is horses for
courses and they might not last as long as hide or kevlar if you were just
building a block or stone wall. But I found them superb when doing a mix of
jobs including trimming and replacing a few slabs, replacing bits of facia
board, re-hanging an exterior door, cutting gutters and downpipes, drilling
and screwing brackets into wood and stone, mixing small amounts of mortar
and concrete, and painting. And the grip is good enough to leave me
confident climbing up and down ladders and a scaffold tower.

newshound wrote:
I like Kevlar gloves, which are similar, but provide good cut
protection as well.

Colin Bignell

But I found them superb when doing a mix of jobs including trimming
and replacing a few slabs, replacing bits of facia board, re-hanging
an exterior door, cutting gutters and downpipes, drilling and
screwing brackets into wood and stone, mixing small amounts of mortar
and concrete, and painting. And the grip is good enough to leave me
confident climbing up and down ladders and a scaffold tower.

I'm a great fan of the 3 finger framers gloves;
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...framers+gloves

Good protection against scrapes & abrasions, good grip & you can still pick
up screws & nails. Great for general use. Don't use them for wet/tough
applications though.



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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk