Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but rarely post. Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:02:23 +0100, dtechy wrote:

it also has cubic feet on it as
opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis

Unfortunately not. That applies when it is being measured in cubic meters and
they believe it is being read in 100s of cubic feet, when they have to multiply
by 2.83.

Andy

Thanks for advice Andy.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:02:23 +0100, dtechy
wrote:

|!
|!Dear all, have received a gas bill for ?188.00 for 91 days. The last
|!bill was over ?200.00.
|!I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has
|!been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in
|!my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know
|!most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the
|!coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking
|!readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on
|!the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
|!I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
|!anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry
|!for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this
|!is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as
|!opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
|!should be.
|!Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
|!Many thanks in advance.
|!Willie Davis

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:02:23 +0100, dtechy
wrote:


Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.


I use an average of 2.018 units (100s of cubic feet) per day - this
gives an annual bill of around 600 gbp at current rates with EDF.

This is for a three bedroomed house with Combi boiler and gas cooker -
two people all of the time.

Yours does seem high.

"dtechy" wrote in message
...

Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has
been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in
my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know
most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the
coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking
readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on
the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry
for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this
is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as
opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur

Arthur wrote:
"dtechy" wrote in message
...

Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which
has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I
am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes
I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup
on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am
taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the
gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly -
sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I
suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic
feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3
times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first
post. Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur

Mine was £139 for the last quarter, running 9 rads (averaging 9 hrs per
day) + cooking and that's with BG.

Don.

"Don Spumey" wrote in message
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Arthur wrote:
"dtechy" wrote in message
...

Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which
has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I
am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes
I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup
on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am
taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the
gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly -
sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I
suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic
feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3
times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first
post. Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur

Mine was £139 for the last quarter, running 9 rads (averaging 9 hrs per
day) + cooking and that's with BG.

Don.

I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:44:42 UTC, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

The combination of good insulation, TVRs

It would help if you sold the gas guzzling cars!

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:44:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary



I would say that aboout £350 is the ' going rate' for your average 3 bed semi.
but that recent rises have concentrated the minds of many that haven't
previously invested in adequate insulation, TRVs, timed controls etc. I added
the more sophisticated controls last summer and the savings have been useful,
but of course against the background of a mild winter. I think if we ever return
to really cold winters, we will all be pulled up with a start. I plan to bring
the loft insulation up to the latest standard as this summer little chore.

Andy

"Andy Cap" wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:44:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"

wrote:


I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly
Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of
the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas
hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary



I would say that aboout £350 is the ' going rate' for your average 3 bed
semi.

I think that's very high. Ours is an average inter-war 3 bed semi.

but that recent rises have concentrated the minds of many that haven't
previously invested in adequate insulation, TRVs, timed controls etc. I
added
the more sophisticated controls last summer and the savings have been
useful,

We do have a timer but it isn't used. Because we're at home all day on most
days we've found it better to have the boiler controlled by the thermostat.

but of course against the background of a mild winter. I think if we ever
return
to really cold winters, we will all be pulled up with a start. I plan to
bring
the loft insulation up to the latest standard as this summer little chore.

Do, I'm sure you'll notice the difference. Cavity wall insulation, which we
had installed years ago, made a big difference to our comfort. We don't have
underfloor insulation and we don't have carpets but they don't feel cold.

When we first moved here, in 1954, it was a very cold house. We've made the
changes. Oh - and I forgot draughtproofing on windows and external doors. We
also built a porch so the 'front' door is protected from the outside
temperature. Occasionally we're more comfortable if we close the (velvet)
curtains.

Our comfort is more important than the bills, that they've gone down rather
than up is a bonus :-)

Mary


Andy

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:44:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"

wrote:


I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly
Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be
refunded this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took
advantage of the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well
insulated so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated
rooms; gas hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is
rarely used for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at
home all day. The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water
heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary



I would say that aboout £350 is the ' going rate' for your average 3
bed semi.

I think that's very high. Ours is an average inter-war 3 bed semi.

but that recent rises have concentrated the minds of many that
haven't previously invested in adequate insulation, TRVs, timed
controls etc. I added
the more sophisticated controls last summer and the savings have been
useful,

We do have a timer but it isn't used. Because we're at home all day
on most days we've found it better to have the boiler controlled by
the thermostat.
but of course against the background of a mild winter. I think if we
ever return
to really cold winters, we will all be pulled up with a start. I
plan to bring
the loft insulation up to the latest standard as this summer little
chore.

Do, I'm sure you'll notice the difference. Cavity wall insulation,
which we had installed years ago, made a big difference to our
comfort. We don't have underfloor insulation and we don't have
carpets but they don't feel cold.
When we first moved here, in 1954, it was a very cold house. We've
made the changes. Oh - and I forgot draughtproofing on windows and
external doors. We also built a porch so the 'front' door is
protected from the outside temperature. Occasionally we're more
comfortable if we close the (velvet) curtains.

Our comfort is more important than the bills, that they've gone down
rather than up is a bonus :-)

Mary


Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Don.

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Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Don.

Mary Fisher wrote:
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Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Don.

http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/goodlife/index.html

Don.

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writes

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Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Learn to google

silly "woman"

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wrote:


"Don Spumey" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:

Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

That was entirely predictable, wasn't it?

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writes

"Don Spumey" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Learn to google

silly "woman"

I don't have a TV, can't be bothered to google but think they were in a
comedy sitcom called 'The Good Life', possibly in leafy Surrey.

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"Don Spumey" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Don Spumey" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Don.

http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/goodlife/index.html

We haven't a television - too busy with real life :-)

Mary

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:12:35 UTC, "Don Spumey"
wrote:

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Don Spumey" wrote in message
. uk...
Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Don.

http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/goodlife/index.html

All you needed to say was that they were a bit like Mary and "Spouse" -
but a good deal less self satisfied.

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"Don Spumey" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Don Spumey" wrote in message
. uk...
Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Don.

http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/goodlife/index.html

We haven't a television - too busy with real life :-)

No you're not - you post here

if you weren't so lazy and googled for things, you wouldn't have to ask,
would you ?

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In message , Mary Fisher
writes

"Don Spumey" wrote in message
.uk...
Mary Fisher wrote:



Methinks that you are Tom & Barbara Good and I claim my £5 ;-)

Who?

Mary

Learn to google

silly "woman"

I don't have a TV, can't be bothered to google but think they were in a
comedy sitcom called 'The Good Life', possibly in leafy Surrey.

There speaks someone with a clue


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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
...

....


I don't have a TV, can't be bothered to google but think they were in a
comedy sitcom called 'The Good Life', possibly in leafy Surrey.

Ah yes, thanks Helen. ISTR reports of silly men falling for Felicity Kendal.

I even saw an episode at a friend's house. None of the characters was
anything like us, we live in inner city Leeds. We do have bantams and for
twenty five years I kept bees but there's not enough room for anything
bigger. We leave sheep and cattle to a farmer daughter.

Self sufficiency is impossible in this country. I've never aimed for the
impossible, the possible is tiring enough :-)

Mary

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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms;
gas hob cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is
rarely used for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at
home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I don't have a TV, can't be bothered to google but think they were in a
comedy sitcom called 'The Good Life', possibly in leafy Surrey.

IIRC, Surbiton.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms;
gas hob cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is
rarely used for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at
home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?

The thermostat is normall set at 10C but I don't think it's 100% accurate.

The gas fires are in the dining and sitting rooms, which are the rooms we
use most. The fires are normally only lit when we're in there and it's cold.
We should get more efficient ones but I don't like any of the designs and
these are still working. Spouse wants to put rads in those rooms but I
don't.

When I'm in the kitchen (small) I'm usually moving and/or the cooker is on.

I forgot that over the drive is a carport - full width over ours and next
doors. That made a surprising difference to the kitchen comfort.

Mary

In article , Mary Fisher
wrote:
The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?

The thermostat is normall set at 10C but I don't think it's 100%
accurate.

I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house at
somewhere between 18-22C. Not much point in having central heating if it's
not used.

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:27:35 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
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I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house at
somewhere between 18-22C.

Those who want to wander round in thin clothes with nothing on their
feet.

Not much point in having central heating if it's not used.

There is a difference between use and over-use.


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On 2007-04-02 11:25:15 +0100, David Hansen
said:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:27:35 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
(News)" wrote this:-

I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house at
somewhere between 18-22C.

Those who want to wander round in thin clothes with nothing on their
feet.

.... and why shouldn't they?


Not much point in having central heating if it's not used.

There is a difference between use and over-use.

Over use would be if the windows were wide open and the thermostat set
to 28 degrees.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , Mary Fisher
wrote:
The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?

The thermostat is normall set at 10C but I don't think it's 100%
accurate.

I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house at
somewhere between 18-22C.

WHAT? No wonder we're uncomfortable in some houses. We're not tropical
plants.

Not much point in having central heating if it's
not used.

It is used, it just doesn't make us feel the need to take off clothes :-)

Mary

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 10:27:35 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
(News)" wrote this:-

I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house at
somewhere between 18-22C.

Those who want to wander round in thin clothes with nothing on their
feet.

Not much point in having central heating if it's not used.

There is a difference between use and over-use.

Indeede. People can be as profligate as they like but they shouldn't then
complain about high bills.

Nobody's ever felt cold iin our house - I'm sure insulation is the reason.

The front of the house faces due south so when it's sunny, like today, the
dining room acts as a heat store. We shall be eatiing lunch in the garden,
it's too hot in the house and there's no point in preventing all that free
heat coming in by closing the curtains.

Mary

In article ,
David Hansen wrote:
I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house
at somewhere between 18-22C.

Those who want to wander round in thin clothes with nothing on their
feet.

I prefer to keep outdoor clothing for outdoors.

Not much point in having central heating if it's not used.

There is a difference between use and over-use.

You have a thing about saving energy regardless. That's your prerogative.
But doesn't help answer the sort of question the OP asked.

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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house
at somewhere between 18-22C.

WHAT? No wonder we're uncomfortable in some houses. We're not tropical
plants.

You must hate the summer then. Perhaps you spend all the money you save in
gas for heating on electricity for air conditioning? My house never falls
below 10C for much of the year with no heating at all...

Not much point in having central heating if it's
not used.

It is used, it just doesn't make us feel the need to take off clothes :-)

As I said I don't want to wear outdoor clothes indoors. It's unhealthy.

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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
Nobody's ever felt cold iin our house - I'm sure insulation is the
reason.

At 10C? Even you will - in a few years.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
Nobody's ever felt cold iin our house - I'm sure insulation is the
reason.

At 10C? Even you will - in a few years.

It rarely gets down to 10C! And we might not be around in a few years, we're
over retirement age.

You don't understand, it's a warm house. If we've been away for a few days
in cold weather the house is cold. When we're there our body heat helps to
keep it warm, as well as other activities like cooking, ironing etc. When we
have guests, as we did last night, it was too warm even for them and one of
them (a 22 yo grandson) is very thin and wore only a T shirt.

We never get colds, only dramatic illnesses and then rarely.

Mary

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
David Hansen wrote:
I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house
at somewhere between 18-22C.

Those who want to wander round in thin clothes with nothing on their
feet.

I prefer to keep outdoor clothing for outdoors.

Oddly enough, so do I! We don't wear outdoor clothing indoors.

Not much point in having central heating if it's not used.

There is a difference between use and over-use.

You have a thing about saving energy regardless.

Regardless of what?

That's your prerogative.
But doesn't help answer the sort of question the OP asked.

Do your answers?

It's called 'thread drift' and happens all the time :-)

Mary

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
I'm not surprised your bills are low, then. Most will want their house
at somewhere between 18-22C.

WHAT? No wonder we're uncomfortable in some houses. We're not tropical
plants.

You must hate the summer then.

We do. Even in Yorkshire it can be far too hot for us.

Perhaps you spend all the money you save in
gas for heating on electricity for air conditioning?

Certainly not, we close the thick curtains on the south side of the house
and open doors and windows.

My house never falls
below 10C for much of the year with no heating at all...

But we DO have heating. There are several sources, as I've explained. Most
of the heat generated by whatever means is retained by the insulation.

We're not unique!

Not much point in having central heating if it's
not used.

It is used, it just doesn't make us feel the need to take off clothes :-)

As I said I don't want to wear outdoor clothes indoors. It's unhealthy.

I don't know about unhealthy but it would be uncomfortable. Comfort is all
to us.

Mary

In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
At 10C? Even you will - in a few years.

It rarely gets down to 10C!

Then why have the stat set at 10C? I really don't understand this.

And we might not be around in a few years,
we're over retirement age.

Many live for 30 odd years after that.

You don't understand, it's a warm house. If we've been away for a few
days in cold weather the house is cold. When we're there our body heat
helps to keep it warm, as well as other activities like cooking,
ironing etc. When we have guests, as we did last night, it was too warm
even for them and one of them (a 22 yo grandson) is very thin and wore
only a T shirt.
I hope it was a very long one.

You don't have opening windows, then?

We never get colds, only dramatic illnesses and then rarely.

Colds are caused by viruses.

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*Do they ever shut up on your planet?

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 17:21:02 +0100 someone who may be "Mary Fisher"
wrote this:-

Perhaps you spend all the money you save in
gas for heating on electricity for air conditioning?

Certainly not, we close the thick curtains on the south side of the house
and open doors and windows.

And one of the benefits of proper insulation is that it delays the
heat from the sun getting through the walls. Meaning rooms are
cooler than they would be.


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David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I don't have a TV, can't be bothered to google but think they were in a
comedy sitcom called 'The Good Life', possibly in leafy Surrey.

IIRC, Surbiton.

Meant to be, but in reality, IIRC Northwood


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geoff