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Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but rarely post. Many thanks in advance.
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:02:23 +0100, dtechy wrote:

it also has cubic feet on it as
opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Unfortunately not. That applies when it is being measured in cubic meters and
they believe it is being read in 100s of cubic feet, when they have to multiply
by 2.83.

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|!Dear all, have received a gas bill for ?188.00 for 91 days. The last
|!bill was over ?200.00.
|!I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has
|!been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in
|!my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know
|!most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the
|!coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking
|!readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on
|!the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
|!I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
|!anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry
|!for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this
|!is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as
|!opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
|!should be.
|!Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
|!Many thanks in advance.
|!Willie Davis

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Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.



I use an average of 2.018 units (100s of cubic feet) per day - this
gives an annual bill of around 600 gbp at current rates with EDF.

This is for a three bedroomed house with Combi boiler and gas cooker -
two people all of the time.

Yours does seem high.
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Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which has
been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I am in
my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes I know
most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup on the
coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am taking
readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the gas fire on
the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly - sorry
for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I suspect this
is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic feet on it as
opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3 times the amount I
should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first post.
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur



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Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which
has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I
am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes
I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup
on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am
taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the
gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly -
sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I
suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic
feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3
times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first
post. Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur


Mine was £139 for the last quarter, running 9 rads (averaging 9 hrs per
day) + cooking and that's with BG.

Don.


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Dear all, have received a gas bill for £188.00 for 91 days. The last
bill was over £200.00.
I live in a 1 bedroom flat with a 2 year old ravenheat combi which
has been flawless. spend 3 days a week at my girlfriends, and when I
am in my flat alone, i'm only using my 'flame effect' gas fire.(yes
I know most of it goes up chimney)with the lounge rad on as backup
on the coldest nights. Scottish Gas have been contacted and I am
taking readings for 7 days. When watching the meter with only the
gas fire on the needle does not move 'smoothly' - is this relevant?
I am probably going to have the company come out to check the meter
anyway, (there is a charge if meter is found to be OK). Lastly -
sorry for long post, the meter has 1991 next to the dials and I
suspect this is when it was last replaced, and it also has cubic
feet on it as opposed to cubic meters. Could I be being billed 3
times the amount I should be.
Have been reading DIYbanter for 2 years now, but this is my first
post. Many thanks in advance.
Willie Davis


Just got my quarterly. £200 for combi running 2 rads (2 never on)
and 1 radiant fire, 1 flame effect fire and stove.

Arthur


Mine was £139 for the last quarter, running 9 rads (averaging 9 hrs per
day) + cooking and that's with BG.

Don.


I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary




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The combination of good insulation, TVRs


It would help if you sold the gas guzzling cars!

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 10:44:42 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary



I would say that aboout £350 is the ' going rate' for your average 3 bed semi.
but that recent rises have concentrated the minds of many that haven't
previously invested in adequate insulation, TRVs, timed controls etc. I added
the more sophisticated controls last summer and the savings have been useful,
but of course against the background of a mild winter. I think if we ever return
to really cold winters, we will all be pulled up with a start. I plan to bring
the loft insulation up to the latest standard as this summer little chore.

Andy


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I can't believe all these high figures. We're with BG, our quarterly
Direct
Debits are less than £80 and we're £103 in credit - that will be refunded
this month and the payments re-assessed downwards. We took advantage of
the
fixed charge which a lot of people scorned.

We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so
it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms; gas
hob
cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is rarely used
for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at home all day.

The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.

Mary



I would say that aboout £350 is the ' going rate' for your average 3 bed
semi.


I think that's very high. Ours is an average inter-war 3 bed semi.

but that recent rises have concentrated the minds of many that haven't
previously invested in adequate insulation, TRVs, timed controls etc. I
added
the more sophisticated controls last summer and the savings have been
useful,


We do have a timer but it isn't used. Because we're at home all day on most
days we've found it better to have the boiler controlled by the thermostat.

but of course against the background of a mild winter. I think if we ever
return
to really cold winters, we will all be pulled up with a start. I plan to
bring
the loft insulation up to the latest standard as this summer little chore.


Do, I'm sure you'll notice the difference. Cavity wall insulation, which we
had installed years ago, made a big difference to our comfort. We don't have
underfloor insulation and we don't have carpets but they don't feel cold.

When we first moved here, in 1954, it was a very cold house. We've made the
changes. Oh - and I forgot draughtproofing on windows and external doors. We
also built a porch so the 'front' door is protected from the outside
temperature. Occasionally we're more comfortable if we close the (velvet)
curtains.

Our comfort is more important than the bills, that they've gone down rather
than up is a bonus :-)

Mary


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We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms;
gas hob cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is
rarely used for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at
home all day.


The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.


Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?

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Mary Fisher wrote:
We have gas central heating (seven rads) but the house is well insulated
so it's rarely on; two old Gas Miser fires in otherwise unheated rooms;
gas hob cooking and I cook a lot; and hot water. But of course gas is
rarely used for that because we have solar water heatiing. We're at
home all day.


The combination of good insulation, TVRs, solar water heating and
intelligent use of hobs seem to be our answer.


Can I ask what temperature you keep the house at?


The thermostat is normall set at 10C but I don't think it's 100% accurate.

The gas fires are in the dining and sitting rooms, which are the rooms we
use most. The fires are normally only lit when we're in there and it's cold.
We should get more efficient ones but I don't like any of the designs and
these are still working. Spouse wants to put rads in those rooms but I
don't.

When I'm in the kitchen (small) I'm usually moving and/or the cooker is on.

I forgot that over the drive is a carport - full width over ours and next
doors. That made a surprising difference to the kitchen comfort.

Mary


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