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Who sells hydrogen peroxide?
No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5
litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Well it's definitely used for cleaning contact lenses; Boots will sell you 200mL of a 1% solution for a couple of quid. But I doubt that helps much! I think it's manufactured by Ciba Vision. Lab suppliers like http://www.sigmaaldrich.com will sell it I'm sure, but at a price and probably not to the general public, if that's what you are! If you can get 25L or 0.5L, seems odd you can't find 5L? David |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:18:13 +0000, Stuart Noble wrote:
No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Look for Chemical wholesalers in yellow pages. Dave |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:30:13 -0000,it is alleged that "Tony"
spake thusly in uk.d-i-y: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony Sadly you're probably correct. Especially if someone now mentions acetone. Oops. -- The follies which a man regrets most in his life are those which he didn't commit when he had the opportunity. - Helen Rowland |
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Tony wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony Now you mention it, there is a bloke outside in dark glasses with big feet reading The Sun..... |
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Lobster wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote: No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Well it's definitely used for cleaning contact lenses; Boots will sell you 200mL of a 1% solution for a couple of quid. But I doubt that helps much! I think it's manufactured by Ciba Vision. Lab suppliers like http://www.sigmaaldrich.com will sell it I'm sure, but at a price and probably not to the general public, if that's what you are! If you can get 25L or 0.5L, seems odd you can't find 5L? David No trouble finding a 200 litre drum either. Wood finishing suppliers have 5L as part of a 2 pack bleach but I don't need the other part. IIRC it's used in agriculture |
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Tony wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... Tony wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony Now you mention it, there is a bloke outside in dark glasses with big feet reading The Sun..... And what did he do after the 30 seconds it took him to do that? Adam |
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In message , Stuart Noble
writes No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). Where do you get 25l from, that supplier up in Scotland ? -- geoff |
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In message , Tony
writes "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Sounds like fun I might buy some Now, where to get the acetone from ... ? Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony -- geoff |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:18:13 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote: No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). Not a hope. A few weeks ago it would have been difficult, now it will be impossible. Why would you need 30% anyway? - that's pretty pokey stuff. For wood bleaching I can't imagine you needing more than a litre or so. |
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In message , OldBill
writes Tony wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. I hope he told them to **** off -- geoff |
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In article , OldBill
writes Tony wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. Really?, Whatever for?..... -- Tony Sayer |
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raden wrote:
In message , OldBill writes [SNIP]... Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. I hope he told them to **** off Why should he? If he'd annoyed them they could've given him at least a few hours of uncomfortable questioning, the anti-terrorism powers being what they are. After a chat they went away. Apparently suppliers of any electronic bits that could be used to trigger bombs are told to inform the "authorities" when orders come from certain areas. Similarly if you want to fly your private plane to certain locations you have to file your flight plans with S.B. in advance. |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Now you mention it, there is a bloke outside in dark glasses with big feet reading The Sun..... And what did he do after the 30 seconds it took him to do that? Adam LOL I can't disagree with that :-) And that includes the drivelling mouth looking at the topless totty :-) Dave |
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In message , OldBill
writes raden wrote: In message , OldBill writes [SNIP]... Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. I hope he told them to **** off Why should he? If he'd annoyed them they could've given him at least a few hours of uncomfortable questioning, the anti-terrorism powers being what they are. After a chat they went away. Apparently suppliers of any electronic bits that could be used to trigger bombs are told to inform the "authorities" when orders come from certain areas. I remain unconvinced So, anyone on Leeds who buys a e.g. 555 or a shift register gets leant on I don't think so Similarly if you want to fly your private plane to certain locations you have to file your flight plans with S.B. in advance. -- geoff |
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OldBill wrote:
A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. BBC T.V. makes them out to be not that bright, or they tend to swing to tory blair. bliar watchers note... I was under the official secrets act UK eyes B, when I worked and still am! Dave |
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raden wrote:
In message , Tony writes "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Sounds like fun I might buy some Now, where to get the acetone from ... ? I have some acetone. How much do you want ;-) dave |
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In message , Dave
writes raden wrote: In message , Tony writes "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Sounds like fun I might buy some Now, where to get the acetone from ... ? I have some acetone. How much do you want ;-) Ooh, I suppose a bucket full -- geoff |
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In message , Dave
writes OldBill wrote: A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. BBC T.V. makes them out to be not that bright, or they tend to swing to tory blair. bliar watchers note... I was under the official secrets act UK eyes B, when I worked and still am! As is everyone who ever has -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Dave writes OldBill wrote: A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. BBC T.V. makes them out to be not that bright, or they tend to swing to tory blair. bliar watchers note... I was under the official secrets act UK eyes B, when I worked and still am! As is everyone who ever has As is everyone, actually, signing it is an irrelevance. Bob Mannix |
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OldBill wrote: Special Branch came round to see him. One of my brothers used to dabble in electronics. He was rudely awakened very early one morning by the unannounced entry of some rozzers in mufti, some of whom examined his PCBs whilst others pointed shooters at his head. |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
Tony wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. Unless you want armed response teams bursting into your house in the middle of the night I would steer clear of asking for this. Unfortunately for you, your name, address, date of birth, ethnic origin etc will be flashing on someones computer screen for investigation,as you read this. I hope for your sake you're not jumpy... Tony Now you mention it, there is a bloke outside in dark glasses with big feet reading The Sun..... Thats your Control. He will be conatcting you shortly with a carefully torn half page of the Q'ran...;-) |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. As most German rocket development went to America after the war, perhaps N.A.S.A. could give you a lead :-) Roger |
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"Roger R" wrote in message ... "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. The V1 was a pulse jet powered by petrol. The V2 was the rocket and use hydrogen peroxide as an oxidant. As most German rocket development went to America after the war, perhaps N.A.S.A. could give you a lead :-) Roger |
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Roger R wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. As most German rocket development went to America after the war, perhaps N.A.S.A. could give you a lead :-) Roger I hereby state that I have now STOPPED LOOKING for hydrogen peroxide :-) Sodium percarbonate seems to work just as well. Better stock up from my secret source before that gets difficult to find. |
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Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. |
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Aidan wrote:
Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. I am that anorak. Take off mainly, they glided in to land empty having IIRC used thei ca. 8 minutes fuel. Me 163 Komet http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163.htm -- I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. Groucho Marx |
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In article .com,
"Aidan" writes: Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. He163 and Me262 were both jet aircraft. They may have carried H2O2 as some auxiliary fuel, I suppose. I can't see a `rocket-propelled fighter' being very practical: it would be in-theatre swiftly, out-of-theatre equally swiftly, and be out of juice shortly thereafter. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. Having watched that used on a cut on my leg once, as a kid, I've an idea of that experience etched (NPI) on my memory. -- SAm. |
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In article ,
"Scraggy" writes: Aidan wrote: Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. I am that anorak. Take off mainly, they glided in to land empty having IIRC used thei ca. 8 minutes fuel. Me 163 Komet http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163.htm Never seen or heard of that before---but it's just plain silly. Or desperate. Just as a matter of interest, did any of them ever shoot anything down? -- SAm. |
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Thanks Mr. Scraggy Anorak. Sam Nelson wrote: Never seen or heard of that before---but it's just plain silly. Or desperate. Just as a matter of interest, did any of them ever shoot anything down? Utter desperation. They shot down lots, if developed better & earlier in the war, they'd probably have won it. I've heard from a reliable source (ex-bomber gunner) that if one decided to pick on you, then you'd probably be dead very shortly. Far faster than anything else in the sky and very little you could do about it. Allied fighters used to loiter in the area of the Luftwaffe airfields to try to nail them as they glided in to land; no hope of catching one in flight. |
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In message , Sam Nelson
writes In article .com, "Aidan" writes: Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. He163 and Me262 were both jet aircraft. They may have carried H2O2 as some auxiliary fuel, I suppose. I can't see a `rocket-propelled fighter' being very practical: it would be in-theatre swiftly, out-of-theatre equally swiftly, and be out of juice shortly thereafter. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. Having watched that used on a cut on my leg once, as a kid, I've an idea of that experience etched (NPI) on my memory. Ah, but that would just be the 1% stuff -- geoff |
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"Sam Nelson" wrote in message
... In article .com, "Aidan" writes: Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. He163 and Me262 were both jet aircraft. They may have carried H2O2 as some auxiliary fuel, I suppose. I can't see a `rocket-propelled fighter' being very practical: it would be in-theatre swiftly, out-of-theatre equally swiftly, and be out of juice shortly thereafter. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. Having watched that used on a cut on my leg once, as a kid, I've an idea of that experience etched (NPI) on my memory. -- SAm. Just to add my bit of pedantry, the Me262 was a jet, the Me163 was a rocket powered aircraft. There was a rocket powred He 176, but as far as I am aware no He-163. At the stage of the war it was used it was a very practical aircraft, in that the 'theatre' was German cities subject to mass daylight bombing raids. The Me163 could sit around and wait for the massed raids to come over, then fly to altitude, attack at speeds that allied aircraft couldn't hope to deal with, and be back on the ground within minutes. However by the time they were deployed Germanies infrastructure and manufacturing were so disrupted that they couldn't be bult in the quantities required They only built a few 100, and they could never deploy them in numbers to do real damage. It is estimated that they shot down about 10 allied planes for 15 Me163s lost in combat, but that hundreds of Me163 were destroyed in landing or takeoff, or due to airfarme failure when mucking about at the edge of the sound barrier. There is a Me-163 in the Science museum in London. Just to bring things back to D-I-Y - go to http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html and you too can dream of building an Me-262 n your shed! Andy M |
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OldBill wrote:
A N.I. located friend of mine ordered some parts from Maplin to make an FM tuner. Special Branch came round to see him.. POLICE CHIEF: Si! Okay, now, here is the uniform [he hands Neil the uniform] take that with you, and as you go out, watch out for the Special Branch. [Neil walks out of the station and hits his head on a tree branch] NEIL: I don't see what's so special about that. TREE BRANCH: I've got a degree in Computer Science, that's what. NEIL: Oh, yeah, that's quite special. [From The Young Ones - "Cash"] -- |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
In article , "Scraggy" writes: Aidan wrote: Roger R wrote: The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. Also used on one of their rocket propelled fighters, Heinkel,Me 262 or something; some otaku anorak will know. The planes used to crash frequently on take off or landing. I've read that if the pilot escaped instant cremation, he'd probably get dissolved by the hydrogen peroxide. I am that anorak. Take off mainly, they glided in to land empty having IIRC used thei ca. 8 minutes fuel. Me 163 Komet http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163.htm Never seen or heard of that before---but it's just plain silly. Or desperate. Just as a matter of interest, did any of them ever shoot anything down? Not many thankfully. More info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163 and here http://www.betten-24.de/me163.htm translated http://translate.google.com/translat...1%26safe%3Doff -- I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. Groucho Marx |
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"Andy Mckenzie" writes: Just to add my bit of pedantry, the Me262 was a jet, the Me163 was a rocket powered aircraft. There was a rocket powred He 176, but as far as I am aware no He-163. I either meant 162 or 178, Google suggests. I'm not sure. A Close Relative spent a fair amount of time in Germany in 1946/7 translating engineering documentation on various fascinating projects (V1, V2, Schmetterling, Me/He??? for various values of ???) and as a result has such a headful of stuff that was secret for so long that he's only ever mentioned it in recent years and tends to get them mixed up, and all I have is mixed-up hearsay. Whichever one it was had a nasty habit of falling out of the sky in increasingly small bits, anyway. They only built a few 100, and they could never deploy them in numbers to do real damage. It is estimated that they shot down about 10 allied planes for 15 Me163s lost in combat, but that hundreds of Me163 were destroyed in landing or takeoff, or due to airfarme failure when mucking about at the edge of the sound barrier. There is a Me-163 in the Science museum in London. That's perilously close to suicide missions, then, and not the war-winning weapon others might have us believe. -- SAm. |
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Roger R wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... No trouble getting 25 litres, or half a litre, but I'm looking for 5 litre packaging (30% conc). A web search might be easier if I knew which trades use it. I'm sick of reading about hairdressing and teeth whitening. Thanks for any pointers. The Germans used concentrated hydrogen peroxide as a propellant for their V-1 flying bomb. It was used to rapidly generate steam for the launching catapult. They called it T-Stoff. As most German rocket development went to America after the war, perhaps N.A.S.A. could give you a lead :-) Remind me what the C-Stoff was that they mixed with it to make it go bang? |
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"Sam Nelson" wrote in message ... In article , "Andy Mckenzie" writes: Just to add my bit of pedantry, the Me262 was a jet, the Me163 was a rocket powered aircraft. There was a rocket powred He 176, but as far as I am aware no He-163. I either meant 162 or 178, Google suggests. I'm not sure. A Close Relative spent a fair amount of time in Germany in 1946/7 translating engineering documentation on various fascinating projects (V1, V2, Schmetterling, Me/He??? for various values of ???) and as a result has such a headful of stuff that was secret for so long that he's only ever mentioned it in recent years and tends to get them mixed up, and all I have is mixed-up hearsay. Whichever one it was had a nasty habit of falling out of the sky in increasingly small bits, anyway. They only built a few 100, and they could never deploy them in numbers to do real damage. It is estimated that they shot down about 10 allied planes for 15 Me163s lost in combat, but that hundreds of Me163 were destroyed in landing or takeoff, or due to airfarme failure when mucking about at the edge of the sound barrier. There is a Me-163 in the Science museum in London. That's perilously close to suicide missions, then, and not the war-winning weapon others might have us believe. -- SAm. Isn't so much 'war-winning' about timing? If the Me163 had been operational in substantial quantities in 1943 the daylight bomber offensive would probably have been abandoned and therefore the war would have progressed diffrently, but that sort of speculation is fairly fatuous, because it wasn't. A better case can be made for the rather more deadly Me 262 as a war winning weapon, if had been put into service soonr, although that had atrocious reliability problems. Andy |
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raden wrote:
snip I remain unconvinced So, anyone on Leeds who buys a e.g. 555 or a shift register gets leant on I don't think so I wonder if it could be simply looking for identical components from previous bombs? And anyway, given the hundreds of mail order components suppliers, the chances of anyone with serious intent not ordering seperately is small. |
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