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I'm shopping for one now ... and I'm wondering if the plot arc
feature is worth the extra cost . I'm looking at the bottom of the price range , around 200-250 bucks - I'm not going to be using this thing all day every day . I'm basically looking at one for irregular cuts and more efficient cutting on things too big for my bandsaws . I don't do much OA cutting since I'm operating on small bottles - a "B" tank for Acetylene and a 20 CF oxygen tank . And since the wife has no objection ... she's always been pretty flexible with me on buying tools , she knows I save much more on repair costs than the cost of those tools . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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On 10/27/2020 3:17 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* I'm shopping for one now ... and I'm wondering if the plot arc feature is worth the extra cost . I'm looking at the bottom of the price range , around 200-250 bucks - I'm not going to be using this thing all day every day . I'm basically looking at one for irregular cuts and more efficient cutting on things too big for my bandsaws . I don't do much OA cutting since I'm operating on small bottles - a "B" tank for Acetylene and a 20 CF oxygen tank . And since the wife has no objection ... she's always been pretty flexible with me on buying tools , she knows I save much more on repair costs than the cost of those tools . Just remember that most of the small cheap plasma cutters tend to overstate their cut and sever range. Also It won't cut as thick on aluminum. I don't know what "plot arc" is. A quick search didn't tell me. Oh! Duh! I'm not normally that slow. I promise. I bet you meant pilot arc. YES. Its it helps with interrupted cutting and cutting dirty(ish) material. Some claims are that the pilot arc may burn through paint, rust, and other gunk, and the main arc will come on when the "current starts to flow." One thing I would strongly suggest if you buy one of those inexpensive low price import machines is stock up on consumables just in case they aren't available later. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 10/27/2020 6:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 10/27/2020 3:17 PM, Snag wrote: Â*Â* I'm shopping for one now ... and I'm wondering if the plot arc feature is worth the extra cost . I'm looking at the bottom of the price range , around 200-250 bucks - I'm not going to be using this thing all day every day . I'm basically looking at one for irregular cuts and more efficient cutting on things too big for my bandsaws . I don't do much OA cutting since I'm operating on small bottles - a "B" tank for Acetylene and a 20 CF oxygen tank . And since the wife has no objection ... she's always been pretty flexible with me on buying tools , she knows I save much more on repair costs than the cost of those tools . Just remember that most of the small cheap plasma cutters tend to overstate their cut and sever range.Â* Also It won't cut as thick on aluminum.Â* I don't know what "plot arc" is.Â* A quick search didn't tell me. Oh!Â* Duh!Â* I'm not normally that slow.Â* I promise.Â* I bet you meant pilot arc.Â* YES.Â* Its it helps with interrupted cutting and cutting dirty(ish) material.Â* Some claims are that the pilot arc may burn through paint, rust, and other gunk, and the main arc will come on when the "current starts to flow." Yeah , I missed that one when I proofread . I thought it would probably be a feature I'd need , most of my stock is stored outside and it's not too clean . And I figure they will fudge on the capabilities , but I think I'll be cutting 3/8" and under mostly - if it's heavier than that there's always the OA torch . Most of my aluminum projects are pretty small , I seldom need anything bigger than the 4X6 bandsaw . And aluminum I can cut with my woodworking saws and the proper blades . One thing I would strongly suggest if you buy one of those inexpensive low price import machines is stock up on consumables just in case they aren't available later. I have read about the difficulty of getting consumables . They list a torch model though I don't know how standardized that is between vendors . Probably be a good idea to stock up as you suggest . I have found a 50 amp unit with the pilot arc for 225 bucks that I think will fit my needs . It's first job might be cutting those OCS's into knife blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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On 10/27/2020 5:42 PM, Snag wrote:
blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . Um... am I missing something again? LIGHT THE FORGE! LOL. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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"Snag" wrote in message ...
I'm shopping for one now ... and I'm wondering if the plot arc feature is worth the extra cost . I'm looking at the bottom of the price range , around 200-250 bucks - I'm not going to be using this thing all day every day . I'm basically looking at one for irregular cuts and more efficient cutting on things too big for my bandsaws . I don't do much OA cutting since I'm operating on small bottles - a "B" tank for Acetylene and a 20 CF oxygen tank . And since the wife has no objection ... she's always been pretty flexible with me on buying tools , she knows I save much more on repair costs than the cost of those tools . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum =========================== My 1/2 HP air compressor couldn't keep up with a 30A plasma cutter. |
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:17:09 -0500, Snag wrote:
I'm shopping for one now ... and I'm wondering if the plot arc feature is worth the extra cost . I'm looking at the bottom of the price range , around 200-250 bucks - I'm not going to be using this thing all day every day . I'm basically looking at one for irregular cuts and more efficient cutting on things too big for my bandsaws . I don't do much OA cutting since I'm operating on small bottles - a "B" tank for Acetylene and a 20 CF oxygen tank . And since the wife has no objection ... she's always been pretty flexible with me on buying tools , she knows I save much more on repair costs than the cost of those tools . My plasma cutter, which is a nice (and expensive) Thermal arc, has a feature that you set for cutting stuff like expanded metal or dirty metal. I believe it is what is now called a pilot arc. I dunno what Thermal Arc calls it. It does, on my machine, wear the consumables faster, but when needed it sure is handy. Eric --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 10/27/2020 7:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 10/27/2020 5:42 PM, Snag wrote: blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . Um... am I missing something again?Â* LIGHT THE FORGE!Â* LOL. P.S. Yer a bad influence. I started looking at plasma cutters again today. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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Bob La Londe wrote:
On 10/27/2020 7:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: On 10/27/2020 5:42 PM, Snag wrote: blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . Um... am I missing something again? LIGHT THE FORGE! LOL. P.S. Yer a bad influence. I started looking at plasma cutters again today. They are incredibly handy at times. Much easier and faster than pretty much every other cutting method except for a shear. -- Steve W. |
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On 10/27/2020 9:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 10/27/2020 5:42 PM, Snag wrote: blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . Um... am I missing something again?Â* LIGHT THE FORGE!Â* LOL. The only problem with lighting up a gas forge (or torpedo heater) is the several hundred pounds of cold iron machine tooling ... the forge will warm the place quite nicely , but I end up with flash rust on the lathe and mill . I have a small pot belly stove that might work out , I just need to find the time to repair it and rearrange the whole shop to accommodate it . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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On 10/28/2020 8:16 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 10/27/2020 7:31 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: On 10/27/2020 5:42 PM, Snag wrote: blanks ... I'm already thinking of ways to warm up the shop better this winter so I can spend some Quality Time with my forge and anvil . Um... am I missing something again?Â* LIGHT THE FORGE!Â* LOL. P.S.Â* Yer a bad influence.Â* I started looking at plasma cutters again today. They're getting quite reasonable now . The one I bought is one of the cut50 variants with pilot arc . 225 bucks plus taxes , free shipping . My wife didn't even ask what I wanted it for , she's a gem when it comes to me buying tools . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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