On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:20:47 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:47:00 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:16:11 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
I worked in TV for a long time, so it is mostly background noise when

So why waste electricity and disturb your peace and quiet? That's my
goal nowadays. Total quiet.


That is impossible. My tinnitus is so bad that it wakes me up. I have to
leave the TV on, a radio and two fans to help mask it enough just to get
any sleep. It is miserable, whenever the power is out. I may be awake
for days at a time, because of the loud whistling.

I think it's my own tinnitus which makes me enjoy the lack of external
noise so much.


Mine is mostly a high pitched whistle, mixed with a low rumble.

My ears ring off and on, usually a high-pitched tone. I never seem to
have access to a sig gen to find out at what pitch they ring, though.
The one I dragged home wasn't working and my mere 3 years as an
electronics tech didn't lend me enough experience to repair it.
Too few discretes, too many ICs.


That is why I stay away rom most name brands that do a lot of
advertising. The 'generic' 80 cent version of Diet Mountain Dew tastes
the same as the $2.29 bottle from Pepsico.

I'll have to try that. What's your generic called?

One is called 'Diet Mountain Holler', from Save-A-Lot supermarkets.
Another is 'Diet Country Mist' from Winn-Dixie supermarkets. There are a
lot of other regional version of these.

Hah! Neither of those markets exist out here in the PNW. I'll check
at Fred Meyer supermarket in a little while. I need to buy some
vanilla for plum coffee cake. I froze 25# of Santa Rosa plums off my
tree this year. 10 quartered plums make a nice, tart, juicy coffee
cake.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On 2016-02-11, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

[ ... ]

This is more about requirements for service from the central
exchange. In power outages, it does not take too long for cell towers
to run out of stored power, but supposedly the copper to the exchange
must be retained working or repaired in a very short time. Since the
fiber is not covered by these rules, they can save money on the number
of trained linemen kept on hand.

[ ... ]

But as an *individual* customer, it appears to be quite
difficult to get the pinout information to make use of that. So -- if
I'm going to switch over, I want the data in hand before I sign on the
dotted line.

And -- they also have to be prevented from ripping out the
copper from the side of the house to the junction box, because of the
two pair supporting the T1 feed. (Unless they can replace that with more
fiber at no extra cost. :-)

When they call up, or send someone to try to talk me into taking
their package deal (voice, internet, and cable), I get rid of them by
asking:

Can I get static IPs?


I have had the same IP address on broadband cable for over five years.

Guaranteed? And advertised by your domain name, rather than
some Verizon name? (Web pages and e-mail servers want to be reached by
name, after all. :-) And I wind up *blocking* a lot of Verizon IPs
because of spam or sshd login attacks.

Can I get a class-C subnet? (256 addresses).

Does your T1 support IPV6?

It could, if I requested it. I have not bothered, so far.

They can't provide either, while my T1 feed does both for me, so
they go away until the next time. :-)

Can't, or you can't talk to the right people?

Since the communications are always originated at *their* end --
by the people trying to sell the home packages (Voice, Internet and Tv),
*those* people can't give me what I ask for -- so it makes an easy way
to send them away. :-)

T1 is only 1.544 Mb/s. That fiber can handle gigabits per second. T1
and ISDN are the only time they are allowed to cut off the line,
according to discussions that I've had with linemen.

T1 speeds are quite sufficient for my needs.

Granted -- the computers would not need long-term service during
power outages, since I don't have power to run them for more than about
an hour of power company downtime. :-) But the loss of voice
communications for old farts who may need medical assistance is a
different matter. :-) And more likely to be needed in mid-summer or
mid-winter when the longer power outages typically happen. :-)

I just ran a speed test for this computer I got 1.24 Mb/s down and
1.07 Mb/s up but it isn't the only computer that is running right now. I
am also streaming a radio station. I used http://www.speedtest.net/ for
the test. I can get up to 150 Mb/s down, if I want to pay for it. I'll
bet that FIOS will be a lot cheaper than that T1 line, and perform
better.

Probably cheaper -- but only with their own ISP, not with the
one which I am using, which would be charged extra to feed me through
the FIOS, so they would have to charge me extra.

A friend of mine has over 1 Gb/s for his business, but it is only
available in the downtown area. The city built a private fiber backbone
for all their various offices (VOIP and internet), and to help
businesses have better connectivity.

As I said, I don't need that kind of speed.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:17:54 -0600, Ignoramus9436
wrote:

Here's a picture of us unloading it at my place

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/4500-hp-motor-unloading.jpg

You do know that the sling you are using is nothing more than a
bandaid....right?

Btw..in many states..they wont let you use wire slings anymore.

Gunner

On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:44:31 -0800 (PST), Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016 19:14:14 UTC+1 schrieb Jim Wilkins:

The two local station I use that antenna for are near 200 MHz, and I
haven't found loss tangent data on thoroughly dried wood above 50 MHz.
Immersing wood in 280F molten wax certainly forces a lot of water out
the end grain, and seals the wood to keep it out. I made a waxed
pulley from scrap casket mahogany that lasted unchanged outdoors for
many years until a glue joint failed.

I salvaged some mahogany from transmission line switchgear which was dismantled in 2010. There was a date on the gear: 1959. The mahogany was externally weathered, but not at all rotten. The weather resistance of mahogany is remarkable.

How big are the pieces and do you want to let any of it go? I need to
rebuild the tafrails on a Newport Venture sailboat....

http://foleyisland.com/wp-content/up.../11/newaft.jpg

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:47:00 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:16:11 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Time for a new mast system, wot? Better yet, Repent!, and TV no more.
I'm going on 11 years without it now. Netflix and Redbox give me the
movie fixes I need, but I haven't suffered through brainless broadcast
TV or the massively stupid and numerous commercials for over a decade.
The only commercials I actively seek are those for the Stupor Bowl,
and even then, at millions a pop, they put some stupid one on. The
money spent on sports and commercials each year would be enough, in
one single year, to -feed- and -house- the homeless and hungry poor in
America (even those who don't deserve it), and probably a few dozen
other countries. Too bad so few people have this perspective.
(Sorry, it just slipped out.)


I worked in TV for a long time, so it is mostly background noise when

So why waste electricity and disturb your peace and quiet? That's my
goal nowadays. Total quiet.


That is impossible. My tinnitus is so bad that it wakes me up. I have to
leave the TV on, a radio and two fans to help mask it enough just to get
any sleep. It is miserable, whenever the power is out. I may be awake
for days at a time, because of the loud whistling.


it is on. I broke down and paid $19.99 for the entire collection of
'Third Rock From The Sun' TV series on DVDs. There are 139, 22 minute
episodes, on 17 DVDs. I bought it, and the complete 'Married With
Children (for $26.77), on ebay. Third rock is even better, with no
commercials! ;-)

I loved MWC but never watched TRFTS. I missed Buffy the Vampire
Slayer a lot, though, and bought 3 seasons of that for about $20.

I like TRFTS, because it is a screwball comedy. Jane Curtain looks
like she as about to lose it most of the time, and it's funny watching
the aliens try to understand humans. Of course, having Kirsten Johnston
on the show, doesn't hurt the eyeballs.,


http://24.media.tumblr.com/df456a935d9402838ce4cdbf62ac9e66/tumblr_miv5ny1b4O1ry7r58o1_400.gif


So far, my record with the Superbowl: I have managed to miss the last
50 of them. including most of the commercials. The only televised sports
i watched was early NASCAR, before in car cams destroyed it, and IROC
racing.

I gave up watching football back when they had their first strike. If
the multi-millionaire sports asses don't care about their fans, as a
fan, I no longer care about them. Sports announcers ruined things for
me when they got enormous egos and couldn't keep their yaps shut and
let us enjoy the race, etc.

It is hard to believe that people wasted $1,300,000,000 on a bloody
stadium for sports. Without massive corporate sponsorships, most
products would cost less than half what they do now. Grrr.


That is why I stay away rom most name brands that do a lot of
advertising. The 'generic' 80 cent version of Diet Mountain Dew tastes
the same as the $2.29 bottle from Pepsico.

Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Gunner

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:47:00 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:16:11 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Time for a new mast system, wot? Better yet, Repent!, and TV no more.
I'm going on 11 years without it now. Netflix and Redbox give me the
movie fixes I need, but I haven't suffered through brainless broadcast
TV or the massively stupid and numerous commercials for over a decade.
The only commercials I actively seek are those for the Stupor Bowl,
and even then, at millions a pop, they put some stupid one on. The
money spent on sports and commercials each year would be enough, in
one single year, to -feed- and -house- the homeless and hungry poor in
America (even those who don't deserve it), and probably a few dozen
other countries. Too bad so few people have this perspective.
(Sorry, it just slipped out.)


I worked in TV for a long time, so it is mostly background noise when

So why waste electricity and disturb your peace and quiet? That's my
goal nowadays. Total quiet.


That is impossible. My tinnitus is so bad that it wakes me up. I have to
leave the TV on, a radio and two fans to help mask it enough just to get
any sleep. It is miserable, whenever the power is out. I may be awake
for days at a time, because of the loud whistling.


it is on. I broke down and paid $19.99 for the entire collection of
'Third Rock From The Sun' TV series on DVDs. There are 139, 22 minute
episodes, on 17 DVDs. I bought it, and the complete 'Married With
Children (for $26.77), on ebay. Third rock is even better, with no
commercials! ;-)

I loved MWC but never watched TRFTS. I missed Buffy the Vampire
Slayer a lot, though, and bought 3 seasons of that for about $20.

I like TRFTS, because it is a screwball comedy. Jane Curtain looks
like she as about to lose it most of the time, and it's funny watching
the aliens try to understand humans. Of course, having Kirsten Johnston
on the show, doesn't hurt the eyeballs.,


http://24.media.tumblr.com/df456a935d9402838ce4cdbf62ac9e66/tumblr_miv5ny1b4O1ry7r58o1_400.gif


So far, my record with the Superbowl: I have managed to miss the last
50 of them. including most of the commercials. The only televised sports
i watched was early NASCAR, before in car cams destroyed it, and IROC
racing.

I gave up watching football back when they had their first strike. If
the multi-millionaire sports asses don't care about their fans, as a
fan, I no longer care about them. Sports announcers ruined things for
me when they got enormous egos and couldn't keep their yaps shut and
let us enjoy the race, etc.

It is hard to believe that people wasted $1,300,000,000 on a bloody
stadium for sports. Without massive corporate sponsorships, most
products would cost less than half what they do now. Grrr.


That is why I stay away from most name brands that do a lot of
advertising. The 'generic' 80 cent version of Diet Mountain Dew tastes
the same as the $2.29 bottle from Pepsico.

Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Gunner


Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:20:47 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:47:00 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:16:11 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:
I worked in TV for a long time, so it is mostly background noise when

So why waste electricity and disturb your peace and quiet? That's my
goal nowadays. Total quiet.


That is impossible. My tinnitus is so bad that it wakes me up. I have to
leave the TV on, a radio and two fans to help mask it enough just to get
any sleep. It is miserable, whenever the power is out. I may be awake
for days at a time, because of the loud whistling.

I think it's my own tinnitus which makes me enjoy the lack of external
noise so much.


Mine is mostly a high pitched whistle, mixed with a low rumble.

My ears ring off and on, usually a high-pitched tone. I never seem to
have access to a sig gen to find out at what pitch they ring, though.
The one I dragged home wasn't working and my mere 3 years as an
electronics tech didn't lend me enough experience to repair it.
Too few discretes, too many ICs.


There are Usenet and Yahoo test equipment groups, but some types of
tinnitus actually generate sound. For those, a microphone, a preamp and
a scope of freq. counter would help.


That is why I stay away rom most name brands that do a lot of
advertising. The 'generic' 80 cent version of Diet Mountain Dew tastes
the same as the $2.29 bottle from Pepsico.

I'll have to try that. What's your generic called?

One is called 'Diet Mountain Holler', from Save-A-Lot supermarkets.
Another is 'Diet Country Mist' from Winn-Dixie supermarkets. There are a
lot of other regional version of these.

Hah! Neither of those markets exist out here in the PNW. I'll check
at Fred Meyer supermarket in a little while. I need to buy some
vanilla for plum coffee cake. I froze 25# of Santa Rosa plums off my
tree this year. 10 quartered plums make a nice, tart, juicy coffee
cake.

Keep your eyes out for it ad whatever stores you visit. You never
know where you'll find it.

On 2016-02-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:17:54 -0600, Ignoramus9436
wrote:

Here's a picture of us unloading it at my place

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/4500-hp-motor-unloading.jpg

You do know that the sling you are using is nothing more than a
bandaid....right?

Wrong.

These slings are rated at 5.5 tons vertical. I am lifting at most 8
tons. The slings are in like new condition, a very generous company
recently gifted me a bunch of them. 3/4, 1" etc

Btw..in many states..they wont let you use wire slings anymore.

I am just curious, what states?

i

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:03:38 -0600, Ignoramus20662
wrote:

On 2016-02-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:17:54 -0600, Ignoramus9436
wrote:

Here's a picture of us unloading it at my place

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/4500-hp-motor-unloading.jpg

You do know that the sling you are using is nothing more than a
bandaid....right?

Wrong.

These slings are rated at 5.5 tons vertical. I am lifting at most 8
tons. The slings are in like new condition, a very generous company
recently gifted me a bunch of them. 3/4, 1" etc

That sling is rated at a dead load of 30,000 lbs. Your motor is 68,000
IRRC. Cut that figure by 50-75% for a dynamic load and its nothing
more than a bandaid. While it may indeed lift that motor, if its
jerked by a pothole or the forklift tipping..dont be standing anywhere
near the LZ.

ALWAYS!! keep in mind the difference between dynamic and static
loading. Far too many dead people forgot the difference.

I should mention my cousin Steve Ojala was a salvager and was up a
telephone pole removing the cross arms and insulators, with the pole
tied to a snorkel by rope..when the base of the pole broke off and he
went the 30' down, with the pole landing on top of him, making his
wife a widow and their new baby fatherless. A hell of a waste..she
never did remarry and the boy is now in his 30s.


Im not hacking on you..Im simply warning you that you need to think a
bit more before hooking up a load like that motor was hooked. I simpy
cannot fathom why you had a forklift under it..and a chain from a
crane on one side of it. Either unit should carry it...nor neither
should. And having that cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one
side of that motor means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and
the forks drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the
operator before you can say ****!!

Btw..in many states..they wont let you use wire slings anymore.

I am just curious, what states?

In many applications...California is one. Most such work is now taken
up by nylon or plyester slings of various types. Many states have
similar restrictions.

You saw the photos of the 14,000 Ton press crown Im machining? And
all the fixturing and lifting gear etc etc that removed that crown?
(250,000 lbs of cast steel) No metal slings were used. Coast, like
most other serious movers..wont use them. Too much liability issues.
The guy I work for part time..has a rack of slings..probably 30 of
them. In the 2 yrs Ive been working for him on and off..Ive used them
(1) time. To lift 900 lbs of really odd sized fabrication. Did I feel
safe? Ayup. He keeps his wire slings in good condition or they go
right into the scrap bin. Same with his synthetics.

I love ya man! I dont want you to get turned into road kill, Dude!!

(Grin)

Gunner
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...rentProjects02



i

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:53:39 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:22:27 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

Cronkite is rolling over in his grave. I used to like that rat
******* Peter Jennings until I realized how Liberally skewed his
broadcasts were

Cronkites grave should be run though a big ol blender and then emptied
into a sewage pond.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-te...lter-cronkite/

The Terrible Truth About Walter Cronkite

WOW!


--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:12:18 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:53:39 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 22:22:27 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

Cronkite is rolling over in his grave. I used to like that rat
******* Peter Jennings until I realized how Liberally skewed his
broadcasts were

Cronkites grave should be run though a big ol blender and then emptied
into a sewage pond.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-te...lter-cronkite/

The Terrible Truth About Walter Cronkite

WOW!

Want a fun read about Walter?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=106775685

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:16:26 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

Water is what fish **** in. Mt Dew is for drinking

On 2016-02-13, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:03:38 -0600, Ignoramus20662
wrote:

On 2016-02-12, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:17:54 -0600, Ignoramus9436
wrote:

Here's a picture of us unloading it at my place

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/4500-hp-motor-unloading.jpg

You do know that the sling you are using is nothing more than a
bandaid....right?

Wrong.

These slings are rated at 5.5 tons vertical. I am lifting at most 8
tons. The slings are in like new condition, a very generous company
recently gifted me a bunch of them. 3/4, 1" etc

That sling is rated at a dead load of 30,000 lbs. Your motor is 68,000

38,000

IRRC. Cut that figure by 50-75% for a dynamic load and its nothing
more than a bandaid. While it may indeed lift that motor, if its
jerked by a pothole or the forklift tipping..dont be standing anywhere
near the LZ.

Well, we took it down to be 3-4 inches off the ground as soon as the
truck drove away from under it.

ALWAYS!! keep in mind the difference between dynamic and static
loading. Far too many dead people forgot the difference.

Right.

I should mention my cousin Steve Ojala was a salvager and was up a
telephone pole removing the cross arms and insulators, with the pole
tied to a snorkel by rope..when the base of the pole broke off and he
went the 30' down, with the pole landing on top of him, making his
wife a widow and their new baby fatherless. A hell of a waste..she
never did remarry and the boy is now in his 30s.


Im not hacking on you..Im simply warning you that you need to think a
bit more before hooking up a load like that motor was hooked. I simpy
cannot fathom why you had a forklift under it..and a chain from a
crane on one side of it.

Neither the crane, nor the forklift, could lift it alone.

Either unit should carry it...nor neither should. And having that
cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one side of that motor
means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and the forks
drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the operator
before you can say ****!!

Why, there is a mast between them.

Btw..in many states..they wont let you use wire slings anymore.

I am just curious, what states?

In many applications...California is one. Most such work is now taken
up by nylon or plyester slings of various types. Many states have
similar restrictions.

I looked this up, I could not find anything that says they are banned
in California, only that they are regulated, like everywhere else.

You saw the photos of the 14,000 Ton press crown Im machining? And
all the fixturing and lifting gear etc etc that removed that crown?
(250,000 lbs of cast steel) No metal slings were used. Coast, like
most other serious movers..wont use them. Too much liability issues.
The guy I work for part time..has a rack of slings..probably 30 of
them. In the 2 yrs Ive been working for him on and off..Ive used them
(1) time. To lift 900 lbs of really odd sized fabrication. Did I feel
safe? Ayup. He keeps his wire slings in good condition or they go
right into the scrap bin. Same with his synthetics.

I love ya man! I dont want you to get turned into road kill, Dude!!

Thanks! I also use fabric slings whenever I can, it is easier.

i

(Grin)

Gunner
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...rentProjects02



i

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.


I usually go to the supermarket twice a month, and there are times
when I don't find any for over a month so I stock up when I can find it.
If it goes on sale, you can forget about finding any till the sale is
over.

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:16:26 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

Water is what fish **** in. Mt Dew is for drinking.


Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 03:30:18 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:16:26 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

Water is what fish **** in. Mt Dew is for drinking

ROTFLMAO! And it's _Diet_ Dew.

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:50:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:16:26 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

Water is what fish **** in. Mt Dew is for drinking.


Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:40:38 -0600, Ignoramus2527
wrote:

Either unit should carry it...nor neither should. And having that
cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one side of that motor
means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and the forks
drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the operator
before you can say ****!!

Why, there is a mast between them.

Does your driver wear his seat belt every time? Just sayin...


--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:50:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:16:26 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:20:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:
Where the hell are you buying your Dew? Even on the most expensive
days..its $1.50 for 2 liters and I never pay more than $1

Most of the affordable supermarket chains around here were bought by
Supervalue, and the prices went way up. Winn-Dixie hs their knock-off at
$1 right now, and the cheapest the real MT Dew I can find is $1.29, when
they actually have any. I can always find it, at higher prices. I
usually watch for it to be on sale, and stock up. I reserve room for 40
two liter bottles in the pantry.

Quite the little oral fixation you have there, Mikey. I only stock
water in those quantities.

Water is what fish **** in. Mt Dew is for drinking.


Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!


Oh, I know! How I know!

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:58:53 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:50:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!


Oh, I know! How I know!

Do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uT3NZTYpPA

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:58:53 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:50:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!


Oh, I know! How I know!

Do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uT3NZTYpPA


Your new digs? ;-)

That looks like an old abandoned school in Florida that was used as a
backdrop for a horror movie. They finally tore it down a while back.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:15:47 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:58:53 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:50:02 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Indeed! Larry is just plain weird. ;-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!


Oh, I know! How I know!

Do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uT3NZTYpPA


Your new digs? ;-)

I wish. Think of all that shop space!


That looks like an old abandoned school in Florida that was used as a
backdrop for a horror movie. They finally tore it down a while back.

Bowie's vid probably showed old pics from an actual asylum somewhere.
Egad, they did horrible things to folks back then to "remove demons".

--
I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people
who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves.
-- Anna Quindlen

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:40:38 -0600, Ignoramus2527
wrote:


Either unit should carry it...nor neither should. And having that
cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one side of that motor
means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and the forks
drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the operator
before you can say ****!!

Why, there is a mast between them.
That mast will simply make it harder for the coroner to drag the body
out of the smashed cage.

On 2016-02-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:40:38 -0600, Ignoramus2527
wrote:


Either unit should carry it...nor neither should. And having that
cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one side of that motor
means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and the forks
drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the operator
before you can say ****!!

Why, there is a mast between them.
That mast will simply make it harder for the coroner to drag the body
out of the smashed cage.


I know enough, by now, not to believe this B/S

i

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 17:40:48 -0600, Ignoramus31598
wrote:

On 2016-02-20, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:40:38 -0600, Ignoramus2527
wrote:


Either unit should carry it...nor neither should. And having that
cable on only (1) set of lifting lugs on one side of that motor
means that if you blow a line on the forklift..and the forks
drop..that sling will roll the motor over on top of the operator
before you can say ****!!

Why, there is a mast between them.
That mast will simply make it harder for the coroner to drag the body
out of the smashed cage.


I know enough, by now, not to believe this B/S

i
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...6ewk6jwXvtLojw
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AOTma84Xo-I8Pg

https://www.google.com/search?q=crus...t+mast+failure

Dynamic loading..remember?

32 feet per second, per second.

How much does that 38k lbs weigh when trying to stop it from a 2 foot
fall? 4 foot fall? 6 foot fall?



Gunner

On 2/20/2016 7:22 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=crus...t+mast+failure
...

E.g.(from the 1st hit in that search):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/khfwo1zhfr...048-1.pdf?dl=0

Definitely a Darwin Award contender.