On 2/5/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

You need to take into account that most police and armed forces people
are "Oath Keepers" and won't do anything unconstitutional.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


While all liberals are OAF Keepers. You heard them cheering for the
Oaf of office, didn't you?



I see how they are confused...multisylabic words!

On 2/5/2013 7:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

You need to take into account that most police and armed forces people
are "Oath Keepers" and won't do anything unconstitutional.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


While all liberals are OAF Keepers. You heard them cheering for the
Oaf of office, didn't you?


You mean the guy in the Offal Office?

David

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:31:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A local gun shop is using Cerakote on guns.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=523085101043604&set=a.4521212981399 85.106891.131094280242690&type=1&relevant_count=1

It's nice of you to share a photo of your little gun with us, sweetie.
titter


They were talking about that gun on the local radio station, as a
present for your girlfreind or wife for Valentine's day. I'm sure they
can make one for you.

WHAT are you saying? (Thanks, but I couldn't accept it. I'm
straight.)


I should hope so. Don't you need one for your girlfreind or your
wife? Or both?


BTW, you need to see a doctor abut that titter problem before
someone mistakes you for an excitable six year old girl. ;-)

I only titter and chortle online. It's much safer that way, mon.


You mean it's less likely to get you committed the the padded machine
shop with foam rubber milling machines & lathes? ;-)

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/5/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

You need to take into account that most police and armed forces people
are "Oath Keepers" and won't do anything unconstitutional.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


While all liberals are OAF Keepers. You heard them cheering for the
Oaf of office, didn't you?


I see how they are confused...multisylabic words!


They get confused with any word containing more than four letters, as
well.

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:04:48 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:31:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A local gun shop is using Cerakote on guns.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=523085101043604&set=a.4521212981399 85.106891.131094280242690&type=1&relevant_count=1

It's nice of you to share a photo of your little gun with us, sweetie.
titter


They were talking about that gun on the local radio station, as a
present for your girlfreind or wife for Valentine's day. I'm sure they
can make one for you.

WHAT are you saying? (Thanks, but I couldn't accept it. I'm
straight.)


I should hope so. Don't you need one for your girlfreind or your
wife? Or both?

Nope. I'm single and alone right now (thank Crom I'm ambidextrous),
but who in their right mind would give a PMSer a gun? (Just kidding,
ladies.)


BTW, you need to see a doctor abut that titter problem before
someone mistakes you for an excitable six year old girl. ;-)

I only titter and chortle online. It's much safer that way, mon.


You mean it's less likely to get you committed the the padded machine
shop with foam rubber milling machines & lathes? ;-)

Perzactly.

--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:04:48 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:31:41 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

A local gun shop is using Cerakote on guns.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=523085101043604&set=a.4521212981399 85.106891.131094280242690&type=1&relevant_count=1

It's nice of you to share a photo of your little gun with us, sweetie.
titter


They were talking about that gun on the local radio station, as a
present for your girlfreind or wife for Valentine's day. I'm sure they
can make one for you.

WHAT are you saying? (Thanks, but I couldn't accept it. I'm
straight.)


I should hope so. Don't you need one for your girlfreind or your
wife? Or both?

Nope. I'm single and alone right now (thank Crom I'm ambidextrous),
but who in their right mind would give a PMSer a gun? (Just kidding,
ladies.)


No wonder you're single.


BTW, you need to see a doctor abut that titter problem before
someone mistakes you for an excitable six year old girl. ;-)

I only titter and chortle online. It's much safer that way, mon.


You mean it's less likely to get you committed the the padded machine
shop with foam rubber milling machines & lathes? ;-)

Perzactly.

--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman

Gunner on Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:41 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

But so did Weaver and Koresh.

Lets see...Weaver...a total of 5 people kept the FBI and ATF at arms
length for how long again? And the death toll was what again? And
how much money did Weaver get from the Feebs when it was all over?

Now Koresh..how many adults died in that little fiasco and how long
did it keep the government at arms length? Lets see...55
adults..only a few of whom were armed and 28 children against the FBI,
The ATF and Delta Force for how long? 4 dead ATF and 16 wounded ATF
and 6 killed residents in the surprise attack. 50 days wasnt it and
it involved the ultimate use of tanks and fire to take out the
cultiists. And tied up the FBI and ATF for nearly 2 months.
And the fall out from that has still crippled the ATF

Consider that in both cases, the Feds held a perimeter that only
had to look inwards. Can you imagine what would have happened if the
various militias had shown up to add their input?

If the Davidians had been as dangerous as the Feds claimed, not an
agent would have gotten out of the horse trailers unscathed. Something
the Progressives might keep in mind in the future.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:33:41 PM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Gunner on Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:41 -0800 typed




Can you imagine what would have happened if the

various militias had shown up to add their input?



But that's precisely the point --- they didn't!

Getting a "gaggle" of humans to agree on anything is quite a feat.

Getting them to declare war on the mightiest nation on the planet with
small arms is somebody's pipe dream.

On 2/5/2013 11:14 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman



I remember launching my '65 Cutlass into the air crossing a raised RR
track. So of course I freak and slam on the brakes while in
mid-air...interesting landing! THAT stuck with me for life!

Tom Gardner wrote:

On 2/5/2013 11:14 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman


I remember launching my '65 Cutlass into the air crossing a raised RR
track. So of course I freak and slam on the brakes while in
mid-air...interesting landing! THAT stuck with me for life!


See what happens when you don't maintain those air brakes?

On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:57:24 -0500, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:

On 2/5/2013 5:57 AM, wrote:
On Monday, February 4, 2013 11:06:11 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:



Under armed? How so?



Pop guns? The same caliber arms in the hands of ex military are pop

guns, yet in the hands of active duty are "real guns"



So whats your take on the 12 million varmint shooters who shoot bigger

"pop guns" than do the militarys "real guns" ??? And at much longer

ranges?



funny!

(if you're serious, then you're pretty naive)


Which part of NY are you referring to? And what's "happening"?


Gunner




Sorry, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, there's no point in a conversation.

But I suppose you don't really want to have a conversation anyway.



You need to take into account that most police and armed forces people
are "Oath Keepers" and won't do anything unconstitutional.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/



Most? No. A very large number? Yes indeed.

We are working on the rest of them.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:19:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:33:41 PM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Gunner on Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:41 -0800 typed




Can you imagine what would have happened if the

various militias had shown up to add their input?



But that's precisely the point --- they didn't!

Getting a "gaggle" of humans to agree on anything is quite a feat.

Getting them to declare war on the mightiest nation on the planet with
small arms is somebody's pipe dream.


VBG

Keep hoping.

Snicker

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 04:49:22 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


So Im curious about your take on Mr Dorner here in So. California?

VBG

Seems as though he has done several things do date.

1. Eluded the cops for a week
2. Shown them to be buffoons for firing up a pickup truck and wounding
two ladies delivering the morning paper, without warning.
3. Murdered 3 cops and wounded another
4.Tied up at least 500 Local, State and Federal cops

5. Forced the media and the public to review the policies of the
LAPD...and as the data grows...appears to vindicate his complaints
about racism and the Thin Blue Line.

I find it rather fascinating and a very good indicator of just how
dangerous a single human being can be.

Now mulitply that by 35 million....and one suspects that it will not
bode well for Leftwingers. Which btw...the gent IS most supportive
of. One of the rare ones...a Lefty with training. And like most
lefties...crazy as a loon. But...that doesnt make him any less
dangerous. In fact...it simply puts a fine polish on it.

Interesting is it not, that his Leftist Manifesto is not being
considered significant enough for the Democrat Party Press to mention?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Gunner on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:21:47 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:19:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:33:41 PM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Gunner on Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:41 -0800 typed

Can you imagine what would have happened if the
various militias had shown up to add their input?

But that's precisely the point --- they didn't!

that was then. now - I'm not so sure.

Getting a "gaggle" of humans to agree on anything is quite a feat.

Getting them to declare war on the mightiest nation on the planet with
small arms is somebody's pipe dream.

Yes, but enough about your fantasy life.

It is not going to be like the War of Northern Aggression/Between
the States,/Southern independence. It is likely to be more along the
lines of Algeria, or Argentina.


VBG

Keep hoping.

That's about all they have - Hope. And Change.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.

It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.

You missed his manifesto. Hi did declare war, and he is fighting.
But you, like so many otters, seem to believe that the only way to
fight a war is to line up at dawn, shoulder to shoulder on the field
of battle, banners waving in the breeze. It don't work that way any
more, and "asymmetrical warfare" has been practiced since long before
the French occupied Spain.

This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.

You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.

No, you mixed up your notion of what war should be, and the
reality of "asymmetrical warfare" So far, it is a leftist waging war,
all by himself. Fortunately for the rest of the area, he's the only
one on that side, in this "war."
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:



The methodology of the left has always been:



1. Lie

2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible

3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible

4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie

5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw

6. Then everyone must conform to the lie


First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.

It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.

This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.

You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.

You evidently arent aware of "asymetric warfare"?

Its a very well proven form of warfare when one side has a much larger
numerical/technical advantage. Vietnam worked pretty well didnt it?

The lefties have long claimed that the North kicked Americas
ass..right? That was Asymetrical Warfare.

VBG

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:07:29 AM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) typed in

rec.crafts.metalworking the following:



First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.



It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.



You missed his manifesto. Hi did declare war, and he is fighting.

But you, like so many otters, seem to believe that the only way to

fight a war is to line up at dawn, shoulder to shoulder on the field

of battle, banners waving in the breeze. It don't work that way any

more, and "asymmetrical warfare" has been practiced since long before

the French occupied Spain.



This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.



You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.



No, you mixed up your notion of what war should be, and the

reality of "asymmetrical warfare" So far, it is a leftist waging war,

all by himself. Fortunately for the rest of the area, he's the only

one on that side, in this "war."

--

pyotr filipivich

"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."



this guy is no different than some asshole trying to take out cars on the freeway.

he's not a freedom fighter or anything of the sort.

he's a friggin "looney-toon" that can't cope!

to equate killing innocent people with military targets is just crazy!

why don't you join him??? because that would be crazy!

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:23:54 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:


You evidently arent aware of "asymetric warfare"?



Its a very well proven form of warfare when one side has a much larger

numerical/technical advantage. Vietnam worked pretty well didnt it?



The lefties have long claimed that the North kicked Americas

ass..right? That was Asymetrical Warfare.





I don't give a flying **** what you call it, the guy in Cal is crazy.

I'll believe you think otherwise when you join him!

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:28:16 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:07:29 AM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) typed in

rec.crafts.metalworking the following:



First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.



It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.



You missed his manifesto. Hi did declare war, and he is fighting.

But you, like so many otters, seem to believe that the only way to

fight a war is to line up at dawn, shoulder to shoulder on the field

of battle, banners waving in the breeze. It don't work that way any

more, and "asymmetrical warfare" has been practiced since long before

the French occupied Spain.



This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.



You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.



No, you mixed up your notion of what war should be, and the

reality of "asymmetrical warfare" So far, it is a leftist waging war,

all by himself. Fortunately for the rest of the area, he's the only

one on that side, in this "war."

--

pyotr filipivich

"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."



this guy is no different than some asshole trying to take out cars on the freeway.

he's not a freedom fighter or anything of the sort.

he's a friggin "looney-toon" that can't cope!

to equate killing innocent people with military targets is just crazy!

why don't you join him??? because that would be crazy!

Your fear filled opinion it noted with great amusement and a
considerable amount of contempt.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:32:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:23:54 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:


You evidently arent aware of "asymetric warfare"?



Its a very well proven form of warfare when one side has a much larger

numerical/technical advantage. Vietnam worked pretty well didnt it?



The lefties have long claimed that the North kicked Americas

ass..right? That was Asymetrical Warfare.





I don't give a flying **** what you call it, the guy in Cal is crazy.

Of course he is. But that doesnt rule out his very efficient mode of
warfare, does it?

Oh..you are a very 2d thinker. Sorry...life doesnt work that way.
Despite the best hopes and wishes of the Left. Sorry. Shrug.

I'll believe you think otherwise when you join him!

Why would I join him? I dont have any serious complaints about the
LAPD.
But I am keeping score. And have a certain amount of respect for him
as he goes about his mission.

From the now deepening look at LAPD..it appears that his original
complaints may have some serious validity. Now the rest of us would
have gone about resolving it...and life much differently....but we
old warriors can certainly appreciate and respect the mode of warfare
he has chosen.

Something to think about during those long cold nights as you lay
under your bed in fear. There are millions of us out here that can do
the same thing he is doing, and do it much better to some degree or
another.

Which simply means that you Leftwingers are toast ...when the time
comes.

VBG

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:00:45 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 04:49:22 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


So Im curious about your take on Mr Dorner here in So. California?

VBG

Seems as though he has done several things do date.

1. Eluded the cops for a week
2. Shown them to be buffoons for firing up a pickup truck and wounding
two ladies delivering the morning paper, without warning.
3. Murdered 3 cops and wounded another
4.Tied up at least 500 Local, State and Federal cops

5. Forced the media and the public to review the policies of the
LAPD...and as the data grows...appears to vindicate his complaints
about racism and the Thin Blue Line.

I find it rather fascinating and a very good indicator of just how
dangerous a single human being can be.

Now mulitply that by 35 million....and one suspects that it will not
bode well for Leftwingers. Which btw...the gent IS most supportive
of. One of the rare ones...a Lefty with training. And like most
lefties...crazy as a loon. But...that doesnt make him any less
dangerous. In fact...it simply puts a fine polish on it.

Interesting is it not, that his Leftist Manifesto is not being
considered significant enough for the Democrat Party Press to mention?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


They pulled it of FB as quickly as they could. Too bad it was
downloaded so many times before that happened.

VBG

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Feb 9, 12:58*pm, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:28:16 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:07:29 AM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) typed in

rec.crafts.metalworking *the following:

First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.

It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.

* * * *You missed his manifesto. *Hi did declare war, and he is fighting.

But you, like so many otters, seem to believe that the only way to

fight a war is to line up at dawn, shoulder to shoulder on the field

of battle, banners waving in the breeze. *It don't work that way any

more, and "asymmetrical warfare" has been practiced since long before

the French occupied Spain.

This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.

You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.

* * * *No, you mixed up your notion of what war should be, and the

reality of "asymmetrical warfare" *So far, it is a leftist waging war,

all by himself. *Fortunately for the rest of the area, he's the only

one on that side, in this "war."

--

pyotr filipivich

"With Age comes Wisdom. *Although more often, Age travels alone."

this guy is no different than some asshole trying to take out cars on the freeway.

he's not a freedom fighter or anything of the sort.

he's a friggin "looney-toon" that can't cope!

to equate killing innocent people with military targets is just crazy!

why don't you join him??? because that would be crazy!

Your fear filled opinion it noted with great amusement and a
considerable amount of contempt.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Mark Wieber's frequent lies and death treats are noted with great
amusement and a considerable amount of contempt.

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:49:22 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
5. Forced the media and the public to review the policies of the
LAPD...and as the data grows...appears to vindicate his complaints
about racism and the Thin Blue Line.

First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.

Ditto. The daughter and fiance shouldn't have been targets. Nor
should the NRA and guns in general, but that's a leftist for you.


It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.

This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.

Did you read his whole manifesto? He may have some flaws, but the way
numerous people in the LAPD set him up was truly criminal.


You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.

The sucker punchers were the LAPD who threw his ass out and got him
kicked out of the Navy, losing his top secret clearances to boot.
That, in turn, caused his family to lose faith in him.

If anyone had a right to go crazy, it was him. He was a man of very
high morals and he was wronged in the -very- worst way.

Watch the HelL.A. news for more. I don't think he's even _close_ to
done yet because there's no way in hell the assholes responsible for
all of this will cop to their lies, coverups, and considerable other
malfeasance.

--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:28:16 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:07:29 AM UTC-8, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) typed in

You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.



No, you mixed up your notion of what war should be, and the

reality of "asymmetrical warfare" So far, it is a leftist waging war,

all by himself. Fortunately for the rest of the area, he's the only

one on that side, in this "war."

this guy is no different than some asshole trying to take out cars on the freeway.

he's not a freedom fighter or anything of the sort.

he's a friggin "looney-toon" that can't cope!

to equate killing innocent people with military targets is just crazy!

I think the idea was to force the perps in the LAPD to confess to
their transgressions against him and others in the HelL.A. area.
Had they done that, he might have been reinstated in the Navy and
gotten his clearances back INSTEAD of losing his grip on sanity.
Optimally, -nobody- would be dead now if that had happened.


why don't you join him??? because that would be crazy!

Oh, you're one of those. Bye! plonk

--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:05:42 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:32:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:23:54 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:





You evidently arent aware of "asymetric warfare"?







Its a very well proven form of warfare when one side has a much larger



numerical/technical advantage. Vietnam worked pretty well didnt it?







The lefties have long claimed that the North kicked Americas



ass..right? That was Asymetrical Warfare.











I don't give a flying **** what you call it, the guy in Cal is crazy.



Of course he is. But that doesnt rule out his very efficient mode of

warfare, does it?



Oh..you are a very 2d thinker. Sorry...life doesnt work that way.

Despite the best hopes and wishes of the Left. Sorry. Shrug.



I'll believe you think otherwise when you join him!



Why would I join him? I dont have any serious complaints about the

LAPD.

But I am keeping score. And have a certain amount of respect for him

as he goes about his mission.



From the now deepening look at LAPD..it appears that his original

complaints may have some serious validity. Now the rest of us would

have gone about resolving it...and life much differently....but we

old warriors can certainly appreciate and respect the mode of warfare

he has chosen.



Something to think about during those long cold nights as you lay

under your bed in fear. There are millions of us out here that can do

the same thing he is doing, and do it much better to some degree or

another.



Which simply means that you Leftwingers are toast ...when the time

comes.



VBG



Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:



1. Lie

2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible

3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible

4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie

5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw

6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



i assume when you call me a "lefty" you are trying to insult my political leanings ... apparently you can't sort out a libertarian. true libertarians are about freedom ... even for the whackies.

i really don't give a **** what your political leanings are you ... but i guarantee you, all your litte pop guns and delusions of grandeur don't bother me.

flame on buddy --- i can take it.

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:00:45 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 04:49:22 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


So Im curious about your take on Mr Dorner here in So. California?

VBG

Seems as though he has done several things do date.

1. Eluded the cops for a week
2. Shown them to be buffoons for firing up a pickup truck and wounding
two ladies delivering the morning paper, without warning.
3. Murdered 3 cops and wounded another
4.Tied up at least 500 Local, State and Federal cops

5. Forced the media and the public to review the policies of the
LAPD...and as the data grows...appears to vindicate his complaints
about racism and the Thin Blue Line.

I find it rather fascinating and a very good indicator of just how
dangerous a single human being can be.

Now mulitply that by 35 million....and one suspects that it will not
bode well for Leftwingers. Which btw...the gent IS most supportive
of. One of the rare ones...a Lefty with training. And like most
lefties...crazy as a loon. But...that doesnt make him any less
dangerous. In fact...it simply puts a fine polish on it.

Interesting is it not, that his Leftist Manifesto is not being
considered significant enough for the Democrat Party Press to mention?

Does anyone have a count, Dem killers v. Rep killers? AFAIK, only the
idiot folks shooting abortion doctors are Reps. -All- the rest of the
mass murderers appear to be Democrats and Leftists, using the very
guns they hate to do the dirty work. Go figure.

--
Newman's First Law:
It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.
--Paul Newman

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:34:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:



i assume when you call me a "lefty" you are trying to insult my political leanings ... apparently you can't sort out a libertarian. true libertarians are about freedom ... even for the whackies.

i really don't give a **** what your political leanings are you ... but i guarantee you, all your litte pop guns and delusions of grandeur don't bother me.

flame on buddy --- i can take it.

"litte pop guns"?

Son..you are as leftwing as Trotsky. Libertarian my ass.

And on top of that..you are clearly stupid.

Anyone who considers any firearm to be "litte pop guns" has never had
one pointed at him.

And clearly you have zero comprehension what a simple 5.56 can do..let
alone a 7.62xAnything or even a 300 Win Mag or the 375 H&H

If you are not a Leftwinger..you are even more stupid than one could
possibly imagine and should be escorted on a leash across the street.

Shrug

The Great Cull will square you away before long. Shrug.... so be it.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:27:06 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:49:22 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
5. Forced the media and the public to review the policies of the
LAPD...and as the data grows...appears to vindicate his complaints
about racism and the Thin Blue Line.

First off let me say that I don't like to see innocent people get killed.

Ditto. The daughter and fiance shouldn't have been targets. Nor
should the NRA and guns in general, but that's a leftist for you.


It wasn't like this guy declared war and said here I am let's fight.

This guy had some problems, all he'll do is give a bad rap to the 50 if truely has one and uses it.

Did you read his whole manifesto? He may have some flaws, but the way
numerous people in the LAPD set him up was truly criminal.


You mixing up organized war and "sucker" punchers.

The sucker punchers were the LAPD who threw his ass out and got him
kicked out of the Navy, losing his top secret clearances to boot.
That, in turn, caused his family to lose faith in him.

If anyone had a right to go crazy, it was him. He was a man of very
high morals and he was wronged in the -very- worst way.

Watch the HelL.A. news for more. I don't think he's even _close_ to
done yet because there's no way in hell the assholes responsible for
all of this will cop to their lies, coverups, and considerable other
malfeasance.


I agree. It is far..far..far from over and it will be most
interesting to see the body count and the deep dark secrets of the
LAPD exposed to the light of day.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:05:47 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:34:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:







i assume when you call me a "lefty" you are trying to insult my political leanings ... apparently you can't sort out a libertarian. true libertarians are about freedom ... even for the whackies.



i really don't give a **** what your political leanings are you ... but i guarantee you, all your litte pop guns and delusions of grandeur don't bother me.



flame on buddy --- i can take it.



"litte pop guns"?



Son..you are as leftwing as Trotsky. Libertarian my ass.



And on top of that..you are clearly stupid.



Anyone who considers any firearm to be "litte pop guns" has never had

one pointed at him.



And clearly you have zero comprehension what a simple 5.56 can do..let

alone a 7.62xAnything or even a 300 Win Mag or the 375 H&H



If you are not a Leftwinger..you are even more stupid than one could

possibly imagine and should be escorted on a leash across the street.



Shrug



The Great Cull will square you away before long. Shrug.... so be it.



Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:



1. Lie

2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible

3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible

4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie

5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw

6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



well we all know that you're just a "giant" bag of hot air ---

all talk and no go ---

i've seen your junk pile!

put your convictions on the line --- go out and support the "looney toon" in
L.A.

haha --- you're nothing more than a giant sack! a delusional one at that!

wrote:

haha --- you're nothing more than a giant sack! a delusional one at that!


Doesn't your PMS ever end?

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:17:26 AM UTC-8, Michael Terrell wrote:
wrote:



haha --- you're nothing more than a giant sack! a delusional one at that!





Doesn't your PMS ever end?


you mean "does"?

well honestly, you can't take any of this crap too seriously.

i'm sure you don't.

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:30:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:05:47 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:34:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:







i assume when you call me a "lefty" you are trying to insult my political leanings ... apparently you can't sort out a libertarian. true libertarians are about freedom ... even for the whackies.



i really don't give a **** what your political leanings are you ... but i guarantee you, all your litte pop guns and delusions of grandeur don't bother me.



flame on buddy --- i can take it.



"litte pop guns"?



Son..you are as leftwing as Trotsky. Libertarian my ass.



And on top of that..you are clearly stupid.



Anyone who considers any firearm to be "litte pop guns" has never had

one pointed at him.



And clearly you have zero comprehension what a simple 5.56 can do..let

alone a 7.62xAnything or even a 300 Win Mag or the 375 H&H



If you are not a Leftwinger..you are even more stupid than one could

possibly imagine and should be escorted on a leash across the street.



Shrug



The Great Cull will square you away before long. Shrug.... so be it.



Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:



1. Lie

2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible

3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible

4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie

5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw

6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



well we all know that you're just a "giant" bag of hot air ---

VBG


all talk and no go ---

VBG


i've seen your junk pile!

Sure you have. Oh **** yes.

VBG


put your convictions on the line --- go out and support the "looney toon" in
L.A.

Why would I do that? Im simply keeping score along with a rather large
number of other people.

Its funny as hell the number of phone calls the So. Cal talk radio
stations are getting from both current cops and those that are
retired...indicating that Dormer was pretty much right on the money
when he talks about the internal corruption and malfeasence of the
LAPD..and many other agencies.

haha --- you're nothing more than a giant sack! a delusional one at that!

VBG

Care to come bust the other back glass in my work truck? The last guy
wasnt running very fast when I let him go.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:02:22 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:30:32 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:05:47 AM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:34:46 -0800 (PST), wrote:















i assume when you call me a "lefty" you are trying to insult my political leanings ... apparently you can't sort out a libertarian. true libertarians are about freedom ... even for the whackies.







i really don't give a **** what your political leanings are you ... but i guarantee you, all your litte pop guns and delusions of grandeur don't bother me.







flame on buddy --- i can take it.







"litte pop guns"?







Son..you are as leftwing as Trotsky. Libertarian my ass.







And on top of that..you are clearly stupid.







Anyone who considers any firearm to be "litte pop guns" has never had



one pointed at him.







And clearly you have zero comprehension what a simple 5.56 can do..let



alone a 7.62xAnything or even a 300 Win Mag or the 375 H&H







If you are not a Leftwinger..you are even more stupid than one could



possibly imagine and should be escorted on a leash across the street.







Shrug







The Great Cull will square you away before long. Shrug.... so be it.







Gunner







The methodology of the left has always been:







1. Lie



2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible



3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible



4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie



5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw



6. Then everyone must conform to the lie







well we all know that you're just a "giant" bag of hot air ---



VBG





all talk and no go ---



VBG





i've seen your junk pile!



Sure you have. Oh **** yes.



VBG





put your convictions on the line --- go out and support the "looney toon" in

L.A.



Why would I do that? Im simply keeping score along with a rather large

number of other people.



Its funny as hell the number of phone calls the So. Cal talk radio

stations are getting from both current cops and those that are

retired...indicating that Dormer was pretty much right on the money

when he talks about the internal corruption and malfeasence of the

LAPD..and many other agencies.



haha --- you're nothing more than a giant sack! a delusional one at that!



VBG



Care to come bust the other back glass in my work truck? The last guy

wasnt running very fast when I let him go.



Gunner



The methodology of the left has always been:



1. Lie

2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible

3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible

4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie

5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw

6. Then everyone must conform to the lie



first off i respect personal property rights, i would never screw
with your stuff.

re the guy in L.A.;

i just can't condone his behavior. he may have legit gripes, but
killing unarmed innocent folks puts him at the bottom of the heap
for me. where's their opportunity for "justice"?

wrote:

i just can't condone his behavior. he may have legit gripes, but
killing unarmed innocent folks puts him at the bottom of the heap
for me. where's their opportunity for "justice"?


What proof do you have that they were innocent? They could have
killed more people than he has. Dirty cops aren't unheard of.

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:11:45 PM UTC-8, Michael Terrell wrote:
wrote:



i just can't condone his behavior. he may have legit gripes, but

killing unarmed innocent folks puts him at the bottom of the heap

for me. where's their opportunity for "justice"?





What proof do you have that they were innocent? They could have

killed more people than he has. Dirty cops aren't unheard of.



1) at this time he's just a suspect.

2) the claimed victims aren't all cops

here's a timeline if your interested:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07...pected-killer/

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:11:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


wrote:

i just can't condone his behavior. he may have legit gripes, but
killing unarmed innocent folks puts him at the bottom of the heap
for me. where's their opportunity for "justice"?


What proof do you have that they were innocent? They could have
killed more people than he has. Dirty cops aren't unheard of.

Nor are they rare.


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:32:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:11:45 PM UTC-8, Michael Terrell wrote:
wrote:



i just can't condone his behavior. he may have legit gripes, but

killing unarmed innocent folks puts him at the bottom of the heap

for me. where's their opportunity for "justice"?





What proof do you have that they were innocent? They could have

killed more people than he has. Dirty cops aren't unheard of.



1) at this time he's just a suspect.

2) the claimed victims aren't all cops

here's a timeline if your interested:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07...pected-killer/


The only one not a cop, was the daughter of the one time LA cop turned
attorney, who let them railroad him.

So far..cops have shot at 3 civilians...hitting 2.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie