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I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder.
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"homesteader824" wrote in message ... I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. -- homesteader824 Not knowing what "junk" you have available... What about a piece of rubber hose or beverage tubing with a 5/8" id fitted to the sht shaft & held tight with a clamp. Then find something that will fit the drill & have a 5/8" od you can push into the tube. Maybe a small socket on a hex drive adaptor or similar. Maybe a TEK screw drive bit (if you call them that where ever you are). |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:58:57 +0000, the renowned homesteader824
wrote: I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Maybe you could drill out one of these Chinese couplers: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jaw-Shaft-Co...em19d1c5 464a Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On 6/10/2012 10:58 PM, homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Well, unless you have a lathe or know someone with one that could turn down your shaft, the shaft reducer for $60 is your best bet. Or get a bigger drill. |
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On 6/10/2012 10:58 PM, homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. http://www.mcmaster.com/#61005K533 $36.21 clamp on shaft coupling. Then you just need a 1/2" shaft.. |
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"homesteader824" wrote in message ... I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. homesteader824 http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G5551-.../dp/B0000DD4B1 Some hardware stores have them. A quick hardware-store solution would be to bolt together pulleys with 5/8" and 1/2" center holes. Clamp them concentric with a 1/2" flat-head bolt. Axle bolts for replacement lawnmower wheels have a 1/2" shank with 3/8" threads that will chuck in a 3/8" drill. Lovejoy couplers are better for continuous duty with serious loads. http://homeroasters.org/php/forum/attachments/Lovejoys[280].jpg Or you could use this problem to justify buying a metal lathe. jsw |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:58:57 +0000, homesteader824
wrote: I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Find a friend with a machine shop (or just a lathe), and: Turn a 1" diameter piece of steel rod down to 1/2" on one side for about 3/4 of an inch. Drill the center to 5/8" on the other end. Drill and tap 3/8" in from the end of the 5/8" side for a set screw to hold the 5/8" shaft. Ream it to size and you're done in under half an hour. -- Doctors prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of which they know nothing. --Francois-Marie Arouet Voltaire, about 250 years ago |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message Find a friend with a machine shop (or just a lathe), and: Turn a 1" diameter piece of steel rod down to 1/2" on one side for about 3/4 of an inch. Drill the center to 5/8" on the other end. Drill and tap 3/8" in from the end of the 5/8" side for a set screw to hold the 5/8" shaft. Ream it to size and you're done in under half an hour. That's the r.c.m. answer that I would have used. The zinc plated rod sold in hardware stores doesn't always machine too well. I get a better finish with unplated 1018 CRS shafting from a local industrial bearing supply company. Last week a 1" x 36" piece cost me $18, 3/4" was $10. jsw |
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On Jun 10, 10:58*pm, homesteader824
wrote: *I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. *It seems there should be a cheaper solution. homesteader824 Since you mentioned Grainger................. Look at Lovejoy jaw couplings. 4x176 4x177 1x409 Total cost about $10. Dan |
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Do you have a drill press, bench grinder, taps?
What is the most you would be comfortable spending? You imply that the extractor was made to be hand cranked. Which means fairly low crank speed which is geared up. Which means fairly high torque on the crank. Yes? |
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On Jun 10, 9:58*pm, homesteader824
wrote: I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. *I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. *I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. *Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? *I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. *It seems there should be a cheaper solution. *I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. -- homesteader824 Many shafts have a center drill spot on the end of the shaft. If the shaft isn't hardened and your technique is good, you might be able to use the center spot to drill a hole into the shaft to tap and insert a bolt or threaded stud. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:35:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message Find a friend with a machine shop (or just a lathe), and: Turn a 1" diameter piece of steel rod down to 1/2" on one side for about 3/4 of an inch. Drill the center to 5/8" on the other end. Drill and tap 3/8" in from the end of the 5/8" side for a set screw to hold the 5/8" shaft. Ream it to size and you're done in under half an hour. That's the r.c.m. answer that I would have used. The zinc plated rod sold in hardware stores doesn't always machine too well. I get a better finish with unplated 1018 CRS shafting from a local industrial bearing supply company. Last week a 1" x 36" piece cost me $18, 3/4" was $10. The guy with the machine shop would surely have some scrap on hand which would machine easily and work well. Hell, half my router is made from such scrap. I only bought the 24' chunk of 3x4" steel tube and the hardware. The local home improvement store got me for $33, a box of 50 5mm x 20mm x 0.8 pitch allen head cap screws. I got a box of 100 similar 5x16x0.8 screws from the local fastener supply for $5.35. SASCO Rules! -- Doctors prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of which they know nothing. --Francois-Marie Arouet Voltaire, about 250 years ago |
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homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Go buy a cheap 5/8" drill bit with a stepped shaft that will fit the 1/2" drill. You can find one at HF or many other stores. Now use your dremal to cut the fluted section off that drill. You will also want 4 good worm style hose clamps and a section of reinforced rubber hose with a 5/8" ID. Now place the hose over the drill bit and the shaft and then apply the clamps. When you install the clamps place them with the first two on the bit end 180 degrees apart so they stay balanced, then the other two get applied at 90 degrees to those with the screws 180 degrees apart as well. when you're done the screws will be equally placed around the hose. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:35:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message Find a friend with a machine shop (or just a lathe), and: Turn a 1" diameter piece of steel rod down to 1/2" on one side for about 3/4 of an inch. Drill the center to 5/8" on the other end. Drill and tap 3/8" in from the end of the 5/8" side for a set screw to hold the 5/8" shaft. Ream it to size and you're done in under half an hour. That's the r.c.m. answer that I would have used. The zinc plated rod sold in hardware stores doesn't always machine too well. I get a better finish with unplated 1018 CRS shafting from a local industrial bearing supply company. Last week a 1" x 36" piece cost me $18, 3/4" was $10. The guy with the machine shop would surely have some scrap on hand which would machine easily and work well. Hell, half my router is made from such scrap. I only bought the 24' chunk of 3x4" steel tube and the hardware. The local home improvement store got me for $33, a box of 50 5mm x 20mm x 0.8 pitch allen head cap screws. I got a box of 100 similar 5x16x0.8 screws from the local fastener supply for $5.35. SASCO Rules! How prevalent are metric fasteners in the US these days. When I lived there up till 1982 I don't recall seeing them at all. -- Doctors prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of which they know nothing. --Francois-Marie Arouet Voltaire, about 250 years ago |
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David Billington fired this volley in
: How prevalent are metric fasteners in the US these days. When I lived there up till 1982 I don't recall seeing them at all. Still not as common as Imperial sizes, but every hardware store sells metric stuff now. All fastener outlets have almost all sizes in stock. Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. But David, in 1968 I bought a Fiat Spider (Boy! Was THAT a mistake), and was able to pick up all the metric wrenches and fasteners I needed from the local NAPA store -- even back then. LLoyd |
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On Jun 11, 9:27*am, David Billington
wrote: How prevalent are metric fasteners in the US these days. When I lived there up till 1982 I don't recall seeing them at all. Hardware stores stock a lot of metric stuff, may not have all the thread pitches or head styles one might desire, though. Most of the chain auto parts places will have at least a few of the more common metric bolts and nuts, most have a section of drawers with more specialized hardware. Plus metric wrenches and sockets are readily available. What bugs me most is that even though it's a world standard and much of this stuff is coming in from offshore, they STILL charge a super-premium for metric fasteners. Should be cheaper than SAE parts since they're made in more volume. Stan |
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On Jun 11, 9:28*am, "Denis G." wrote:
On Jun 10, 9:58*pm, homesteader824 wrote: I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. *I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. *I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. *Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? *I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. *It seems there should be a cheaper solution. *I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. -- homesteader824 Many shafts have a center drill spot on the end of the shaft. *If the shaft isn't hardened and your technique is good, you might be able to use the center spot to drill a hole into the shaft to tap and insert a bolt or threaded stud. As another cheap solution, you could just slip a 5/8" deep socket with a 3/8" drive over the shaft. If the shaft has a keyway, put a key in to keep the socket from spinning |
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"David Billington" wrote How prevalent are metric fasteners in the US these days. When I lived there up till 1982 I don't recall seeing them at all. Hardware stores around here have a decent selection of them in the higher-priced drawers and blister paks, but maybe not in the cheaper large bulk bins. jsw |
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On 6/10/2012 10:58 PM, homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. http://www.caswellplating.com/buffin...ht-thread.html |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:29:45 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:35:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message Find a friend with a machine shop (or just a lathe), and: Turn a 1" diameter piece of steel rod down to 1/2" on one side for about 3/4 of an inch. Drill the center to 5/8" on the other end. Drill and tap 3/8" in from the end of the 5/8" side for a set screw to hold the 5/8" shaft. Ream it to size and you're done in under half an hour. That's the r.c.m. answer that I would have used. The zinc plated rod sold in hardware stores doesn't always machine too well. I get a better finish with unplated 1018 CRS shafting from a local industrial bearing supply company. Last week a 1" x 36" piece cost me $18, 3/4" was $10. The guy with the machine shop would surely have some scrap on hand which would machine easily and work well. Hell, half my router is made from such scrap. I only bought the 24' chunk of 3x4" steel tube and the hardware. The local home improvement store got me for $33, a box of 50 5mm x 20mm x 0.8 pitch allen head cap screws. I got a box of 100 similar 5x16x0.8 screws from the local fastener supply for $5.35. SASCO Rules! Grab a long joiner nut for 1/2" threaded rod and bore out one end for 5/8" shaft, drill one flat for set screw, and cut the head off a 1/2" bolt to thread in the other end. You can do it all with a drill press and a hack-saw (and a tap for the set screw) in under half an hour. Use a bit of thread locker and/or shaft/bearing mount if you are paranoid. |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:45:09 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote: homesteader824 wrote: I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Go buy a cheap 5/8" drill bit with a stepped shaft that will fit the 1/2" drill. Called a "silver and demmings" or "cheater" bit. You can find one at HF or many other stores. Now use your dremal to cut the fluted section off that drill. You will also want 4 good worm style hose clamps and a section of reinforced rubber hose with a 5/8" ID. Now place the hose over the drill bit and the shaft and then apply the clamps. When you install the clamps place them with the first two on the bit end 180 degrees apart so they stay balanced, then the other two get applied at 90 degrees to those with the screws 180 degrees apart as well. when you're done the screws will be equally placed around the hose. |
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"homesteader824" wrote in message
... I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. Anybody with a lathe and some drills and taps could make you one. My grandfather raised bees for many many years, and we spun the combs by hand with no real effort. He had a good sized two panel extractor. It never even occurred to us to motorize it. I suppose we might have tired of it if he had hundreds of hives instead of just a few. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com writes:
Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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On 6/11/2012 6:56 PM, David Lesher wrote:
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"lloydspinsidemindspring.com writes: Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? Tire rim diameters for one. I've not checked the lug nuts, specifically, recently... -- |
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dpb writes:
Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? Tire rim diameters for one. I've not checked the lug nuts, specifically, recently... AFAIK, tire sizes on all cars are some *******ized mix of SAE & Metric. But they all follow the same spec. One thing that is allegedly universal is the tire Schrader valves. (If I can believe Click & Clack...) -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:56:44 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote: "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com writes: Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? According to my friend Glenn, the upper part of the Chebby intake manifold which is aluminum is SAE, while the rest which goes to plastic (carboniferous or otherwise) is metric. He's playing with his daughter's new/used '07 GMC Yukon 4WD and _not_ loving it. -- Doctors prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of which they know nothing. --Francois-Marie Arouet Voltaire, about 250 years ago |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:02:18 +0800, "Dennis" wrote: "homesteader824" wrote in message ... I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. -- homesteader824 Not knowing what "junk" you have available... What about a piece of rubber hose or beverage tubing with a 5/8" id fitted to the sht shaft & held tight with a clamp. Then find something that will fit the drill & have a 5/8" od you can push into the tube. Maybe a small socket on a hex drive adaptor or similar. Maybe a TEK screw drive bit (if you call them that where ever you are). Or a simple brass plumbing fixture from HomeDespot. http://fittingsandadapters.com/maleconnector1.html Something like the above. Screw the fat end into the tube, secure with a hose clamp, grab the small end with an electric drill. Or find someone with a lathe who will make you an adapter (a 5 minute job max) out of scrap Gunner Yeah, that'd work well. |
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On 2012-06-11, homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. Is there any piece of hardware designed to mount on a shaft and have a smaller shaft coming out of it? I saw something like what I needed at Grainger's website, but they wanted over $60 for it--a lot more than I want to spend. Probably a lot of precision in it to keep it from vibrating with imbalance. That is (part of) what you are paying for. It seems there should be a cheaper solution. I was looking for a more elegant solution than grinding the shaft down with my dremel tool. BTW, I don't have a welder. From my point of view, not having a welder does not matter, as I would not try to solve this with welding. It gets pretty tricky getting everything lined up to start with, and welding likes to introduce warpage anyway, which would put the axis of the new shaft extension not quite in line with the shaft of the honey extractor. My tool of choice for making a direct in-line step-down adaptor would be a lathe. Any idea what kind of speed step-up or step-down you got out of that pulley arrangement? I would likely prefer pulleys anyway -- it lets you find a place to mount the electric drill which does not have to be in line with the shaft of the extractor. Can you point to a web page which has an image of the honey extractor -- just in case seeing it triggers other ideas. Things like does the shaft stick out horizontally, vertically, at an angle, and how far from an edge of the box (assuming that the shaft sticks out of an enclosure). All of these things could impact just how you need to mount the drill. (And the question which also comes to mind is how long a run is required? If it is going to be multiple runs of an hour or more, you will probably need to replace the brushes in the drill fairly quickly. The drill is made for only short bursts of run time and lots of sitting down cooling off. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 6/11/2012 9:23 PM, David Lesher wrote:
writes: Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? Tire rim diameters for one. I've not checked the lug nuts, specifically, recently... AFAIK, tire sizes on all cars are some *******ized mix of SAE& Metric. But they all follow the same spec. My meter tells me the rims and tires are drawn/manufactured in metric to meet the inch dimension specs for diameters; it's just the nominal dimensions for them are still inches whereas afaik all the section data for tread width, etc., has gone metric. (You don't find an old 6.70-15 nylon cord other than perhaps in the restoration catalog any longer. ) One thing that is allegedly universal is the tire Schrader valves. (If I can believe Click& Clack...) That is so at least in the US. Even the large ag tires use the same valve stem dimensions so valve cores are interchangeable. I don't know the thread sizes, though...so whether they are still SAE (or ever were) I don't know (and didn't feel like looking up ). -- |
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dpb wrote:
On 6/11/2012 9:23 PM, David Lesher wrote: writes: Let's face it, the American Car is _almost_ totally metricized now, so that it can be manufactured anywhere. So there's a lot of need for metric. What is left in SAE? Tire rim diameters for one. I've not checked the lug nuts, specifically, recently... AFAIK, tire sizes on all cars are some *******ized mix of SAE& Metric. But they all follow the same spec. My meter tells me the rims and tires are drawn/manufactured in metric to meet the inch dimension specs for diameters; it's just the nominal dimensions for them are still inches whereas afaik all the section data for tread width, etc., has gone metric. (You don't find an old 6.70-15 nylon cord other than perhaps in the restoration catalog any longer. ) One thing that is allegedly universal is the tire Schrader valves. (If I can believe Click& Clack...) That is so at least in the US. Even the large ag tires use the same valve stem dimensions so valve cores are interchangeable. I don't know the thread sizes, though...so whether they are still SAE (or ever were) I don't know (and didn't feel like looking up ). -- In the UK and I expect elsewhere in the world you can get solely metric dimensioned tyres and even in the UK be sitting down when you get told the price, often about 3 times that of a similar sized inch diameter tyre. |
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David Billington writes:
In the UK and I expect elsewhere in the world you can get solely metric dimensioned tyres and even in the UK be sitting down when you get told the price, often about 3 times that of a similar sized inch diameter tyre. But we're talking the civilized world, not the island responsible for B-L, Lucas electrics, and SU carbs & fuel pumps.... "Why use one part, when two will do the same job half as well?" -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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On 6/12/2012 8:05 AM, dpb wrote:
.... ... (You don't find an old 6.70-15 nylon cord other than perhaps in the restoration catalog any longer. ) .... On reflection, kinda' have to check on that one--I just got a set of replacement 7.50-20 bias ply 8-ply rating for the front of the old C60 that keep around for a seed tender. ('58 283, 4-sp/2-sp axle, 14-ft grain bed and hoist). The rears are 8.25-20 and also still available. I presume if look long and hard enough, most common sizes are still at least obtainable if not on the shelves at the local discount tire store. -- |
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David Lesher wrote:
David Billington writes: In the UK and I expect elsewhere in the world you can get solely metric dimensioned tyres and even in the UK be sitting down when you get told the price, often about 3 times that of a similar sized inch diameter tyre. But we're talking the civilized world, not the island responsible for B-L, Lucas electrics, and SU carbs & fuel pumps.... "Why use one part, when two will do the same job half as well?" Except none of the cars were British rather either French or German and not on all models. I suppose the maker got a good deal to use the tyre as OE and the few companies that made them cleaned up. I have heard of a few cases where new wheels were purchased with tyres and came in cheaper than just the OE spec tyres. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:56:51 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
wrote: David Billington writes: In the UK and I expect elsewhere in the world you can get solely metric dimensioned tyres and even in the UK be sitting down when you get told the price, often about 3 times that of a similar sized inch diameter tyre. But we're talking the civilized world, not the island responsible for B-L, Lucas electrics, and SU carbs & fuel pumps.... "Why use one part, when two will do the same job half as well?" TRW had some metric specialty wheels, and Michelin made the tires for them, on one of the small Mustang specials back in the eighties, IIRC. |
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Thanks everyone for all the responses. The buffer adapter is what I had pictured in my mind, I just didn't know if they existed or what to call it. I have one ordered. |
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Reducing a 5/8" shaft
On Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:58:57 PM UTC-7, homesteader824 wrote:
I have a small honey extractor with a 5/8" shaft that spins. I would like to turn this directly with an electric drill. I have a 1/2" drill that I was able to jury rig a pulley to to run it, so I know it has enough power. The drill might have enough power, but it isn't intended to run for long periods. It'll likely overheat. Instead of using pulleys and the gears inside a drill, just couple a real AC motor to the shaft; there's one in every junked furnace, dishwasher, washing machine... and a rotisserie attachment for a grill or oven is really a nice little gearmotor. |
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On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:16:11 PM UTC-7, Clare wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:56:51 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher wrote: David Billington writes: In the UK and I expect elsewhere in the world you can get solely metric dimensioned tyres ... TRW had some metric specialty wheels, and Michelin made the tires for them, on one of the small Mustang specials back in the eighties, IIRC. And on my 1983 Thunderbird (probably Cougar as well). It was possible in subsequent years to swap in similar wheels (from later model years) that took tires that ARE still available. Anybody want four nice alloy rims, that take NO available tire whatsoever? |
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