"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
pard'.


Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your
responses.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
pard'.


Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.

If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to
life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we
should all declare who we are.

I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to
bring out the worst in some people.

I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or
AMC.

If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.


Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:44:16 -0400, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following:

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
pard'.


Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your
responses.

There's prolly a little bit of arsenic in the Obama koolaid, or they
drank triple doses. shrug

--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

On Oct 3, 6:44*pm, Wes wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me,
pard'.

Ed, what is with you and John lately? *You both are sliding into the gutter with your
responses. *

Wes

You mean you don't like to hear someone sound like you?

TMT

On Oct 3, 7:32*pm, Wes wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Ed, what is with you and John lately? *You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.

If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to
life. *While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we
should all declare who we are.

I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. *It seems to
bring out the worst in some people. *

I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or
AMC.

If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. *Myself included.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller

But of course your buddies like Gunner get a free pass.

Wes...just admit it...you are a conservative winger who can't handle
The Truth.

And there is plenty of Truth to go around as the Country struggles
back from the edge of the disaster that Bush brought us to.

TMT

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's
had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left
in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting.

If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group
would come back to
life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to
think maybe we
should all declare who we are.

I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior.
It seems to
bring out the worst in some people.

I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking
participants at RCM or
AMC.

If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.


Wes

Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES
new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting
RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel
free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)

And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all
of the other NGs pasted back on.

Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer;
once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him.

There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling
has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking
for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the
wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are
creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care
when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough
response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just
start new, more provocative threads.

You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll
just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it
takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting
new threads.

Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting
lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for arguments
at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What he's "into"
is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet.

I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been
there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because
someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of
discipline on our part will stop.

The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this place.
It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has taken off
on a rampage against the new administration. These people are among the most
loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In that atmosphere,
good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and to go through a
transformation into name-calling with amazing speed.

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that
get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting
ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim
Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because
it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really
tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES
new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting
RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel
free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)

I kill filtered CA a long time ago. Googling shows a pure troll as in no redeeming
qualities.

I know how you feel though. TMT iritated me enough that I used some rather foul language
in reponse. That is problably what he wanted. He wanted me to lower myself. Perhaps CA
wants the same from you?



And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all
of the other NGs pasted back on.

Cliff could be a contributing member of some groups but he can't turn off his rants. I
wonder how he would have tested on that narcissist test in an earlier thread?


Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer;
once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him.

The view from here is you, replying to yourself since most of his troll bait from the
other groups have been filtered out. I fired up the laptop the other day and saw R.C.M.
with the filters off. What a mess. I gotta transfer my current filter list to it asap.


There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling
has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking
for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the
wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are
creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care
when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough
response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just
start new, more provocative threads.

That is why we have kill filters. If we don't see them, we don't get tempted to reply. I
know it is hard though. You can look up some of my earlier posts and I was prime troll
bait. I keep trying not to bite. Hope I can keep my resolve come winter.


You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll
just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it
takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting
new threads.

The analogy of a screaming kid being ignored by the parent until the kid wears himself out
applies. However, the screaming is hard on all the bystanders.


Wes

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's
had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left
in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep
cross-posting.

If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group
would come back to
life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to
think maybe we
should all declare who we are.

I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior.
It seems to
bring out the worst in some people.

I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking
participants at RCM or
AMC.

If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.


Wes

Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he
CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively
inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for
him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)

And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with
all of the other NGs pasted back on.

Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a
spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for
him.

There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people.
Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't
looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up
on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two
others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and
they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they
don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's
skin, they just start new, more provocative threads.

You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them.
They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two.
That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just
keep starting new threads.

Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting
lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for
arguments at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What
he's "into" is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet.

I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been
there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because
someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of
discipline on our part will stop.

The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this
place. It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has
taken off on a rampage against the new administration. These people are
among the most loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In
that atmosphere, good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and
to go through a transformation into name-calling with amazing speed.

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that
get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting
ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim
Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time,
because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm
really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to spill
your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I have
never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for
cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away. FWIW,
r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience from your
trolls. Have a nice day.

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

discussion snipped

. I'm really
tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

the problem is, as we know that without more effort than it's worth, it's
only words - and to go seek out Adolescent, or any of the other "special
people" and to actually show them how annoying they are, would probably be
a violation of some laws. Even in Texas, the "he needed killing" defense
seems weaker when the intenet is in the middle. And, forensics being what
they are, implanting a digital reward would probably not remain anonymous.
But maybe we can take a lesson from Gandalf, in the Hobbit, where he saves
Bilbo and the others in the party by tricking the trolls into arguing with
themselves until the sun comes up, at which time they are turned into
stone. Maybe some sunshine on the trolls....


Recording for my records.

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to
time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to
spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I
have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character has
a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been
over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT
who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I can't
say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic to
their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying
it will.

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to
time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to
spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I
have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character has
a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been
over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT
who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I can't
say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic to
their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying
it will.

"Phil Amint" wrote in message
...


"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time
to
time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent
can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That
includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to
spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs.
I
have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character
has
a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been
over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT
who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't
say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic
to
their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying
it will.



Sorry about the double-post, still new to posting

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Phil Amint" wrote in message
...


"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time
to
time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some
annoyance.
I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent
can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That
includes
TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to
spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs.
I
have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff
for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him,
good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character
has
a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been
over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and
TMT
who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't
say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic
to
their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be
saying
it will.



Sorry about the double-post, still new to posting

Oops! Yes, thanks.

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Bill Noble" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

discussion snipped

. I'm really
tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take.
d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

the problem is, as we know that without more effort than it's worth,
it's only words - and to go seek out Adolescent, or any of the other
"special people" and to actually show them how annoying they are, would
probably be a violation of some laws. Even in Texas, the "he needed
killing" defense seems weaker when the intenet is in the middle. And,
forensics being what they are, implanting a digital reward would
probably not remain anonymous. But maybe we can take a lesson from
Gandalf, in the Hobbit, where he saves Bilbo and the others in the party
by tricking the trolls into arguing with themselves until the sun comes
up, at which time they are turned into stone. Maybe some sunshine on the
trolls...

Oh, shoot, I'm not talking about a physical confrontation. I'm talking
about discussing his intellectual and sexual inadequacies. g

--
Ed Huntress

no, no - remember Gandalf - get a different troll to do that, you just
provide the sunshine - a real name and address might make Adolescent grow
up, and I don't think that discovering such a thing violates any laws.

You have a deep and transcendant faith, Bill. g I suspect he'd just get
nasty.


as an aside, out of 12 new topics/threads posted since I posted the thing
you replied two, one is related to metal working, the remainder are all
spam/OT, and they are all political.

One more neuron, he'd have a synapse

Stand back...it's time to flush!

--
Ed Huntress

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he
CREATES
new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively
inserting
RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel
free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-)

I kill filtered CA a long time ago. Googling shows a pure troll as in no
redeeming
qualities.

I know how you feel though. TMT iritated me enough that I used some
rather foul language
in reponse. That is problably what he wanted. He wanted me to lower
myself. Perhaps CA
wants the same from you?



And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with
all
of the other NGs pasted back on.

Cliff could be a contributing member of some groups but he can't turn off
his rants. I
wonder how he would have tested on that narcissist test in an earlier
thread?


Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he
continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a
spammer;
once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him.

The view from here is you, replying to yourself since most of his troll
bait from the
other groups have been filtered out. I fired up the laptop the other day
and saw R.C.M.
with the filters off. What a mess. I gotta transfer my current filter
list to it asap.


There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people.
Trolling
has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking
for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the
wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others
are
creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't
care
when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough
response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just
start new, more provocative threads.

That is why we have kill filters. If we don't see them, we don't get
tempted to reply. I
know it is hard though. You can look up some of my earlier posts and I
was prime troll
bait. I keep trying not to bite. Hope I can keep my resolve come winter.


You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them.
They'll
just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all
it
takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting
new threads.

The analogy of a screaming kid being ignored by the parent until the kid
wears himself out
applies. However, the screaming is hard on all the bystanders.


Wes

I realize that, and I'm sorry for contributing to the mess. But I love the
smell of napalm in the morning...

--
Ed Huntress

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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"Wes" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the
gutter with your
responses.

Wes

Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's
had
it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-)

This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left
in
this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep
cross-posting.

If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group
would come back to
life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to
think maybe we
should all declare who we are.

I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and
behavior. It seems to
bring out the worst in some people.

I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking
participants at RCM or
AMC.

If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included.


Wes

Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent
isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he
CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively
inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for
him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance.
d8-)

And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread
that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with
all of the other NGs pasted back on.

Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but
he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a
spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game
for him.

There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people.
Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They
aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their
views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and
one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other
people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups.
If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under
someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads.

You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them.
They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two.
That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just
keep starting new threads.

Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting
lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for
arguments at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What
he's "into" is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet.

I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been
there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's
because someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no
amount of discipline on our part will stop.

The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this
place. It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has
taken off on a rampage against the new administration. These people are
among the most loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In
that atmosphere, good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and
to go through a transformation into name-calling with amazing speed.

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to
time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance.
I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can
take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole?

You're the mole.

I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter
leash.

We have one for you, Adolescent. You won't like the collar, though. It
tightens up as you hang there.

I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence.

You're a lying slimeball, Adolescent. You're the source of much of it.

Have a nice day.

It's time for you to drive your bus, Adolescent. There's a nice cliff over
on your right...

--
Ed Huntress

"Phil Amint" wrote in message
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm
getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll
follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time
to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some
annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much
Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many
times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That
includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You
choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it
belongs. I have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT
or Cliff for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good,
let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and
**** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your
trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away.
FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience
from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character
has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has
been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff
and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned
earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have
ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic
to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be
saying it will.

I've never posted off-topic to "their" newsgroup. All I've ever done is
reply to the insulting provocations from the creeps, freaks, and k00ks who
post from there to here -- like the Perpetual Adolescent.

We don't control Cliff or TMT any more than we control the Adolescent, and
he should realize that. So taking out his frustrations by spamming here just
makes him another one of the jerks.

If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little differently.
But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words, he's
living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about anyone
else but himself.

Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Phil Amint" wrote in message
...


"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things
that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and
I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe
I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles
from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve
some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how
much Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked
many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That
includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You
choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where
it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group reprimanding
either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into
m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him,
good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off
leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence.
Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting
go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we
experience from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character
has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has
been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff
and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not
mentioned earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and
we have ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting
off-topic to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA
seems to be saying it will.

I've never posted off-topic to "their" newsgroup. All I've ever done is
reply to the insulting provocations from the creeps, freaks, and k00ks
who post from there to here -- like the Perpetual Adolescent.

We don't control Cliff or TMT any more than we control the Adolescent,
and he should realize that. So taking out his frustrations by spamming
here just makes him another one of the jerks.

If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently.


Just a few minutes ago you responded to my post where I replied to a post
from here. So either you are a liar or just purposely being obtuse, or
both. I suspect both.

Hey, jackass, I REPLIED to a post. That's what I said -- I never initiate
a post, or a new thread, that crosses newsgroup lines. I only respond to
cross-posted messages that are initiated by some insulting jackass -- like
you.


Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently." So tell me, what other newsgroups do you see posted above in
the newsgroup list, jackass? You are both a liar and being obtuse, as I
suspected.




But that's not what's going on. He's initiating it, taking out his
frustrations about Cliff and TMT by spamming everyone. In other words,
he's living up to his nym. He's an immature jerk who doesn't care about
anyone else but himself.

Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may quiet down.



A few lines up you state that you don't control Cliff or TMT. What makes
you think someone else controls me?

Hey, butthead, I said that we don't control you. If Amint thinks we can
control Cliff or TMT, then let him try to control YOU, and see how far he
gets.

Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either Amint
or me, butthead?



If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
says we should do.

I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I may
be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white space right
here --













You'll either straighten out and knock it off on your own, or not.
Meantime, I've NEVER started a thread that crosses newsgroup lines. I only
reply when the k00ks and freaks post something insulting here.

I'll stop initiating posts here to see if it makes a difference in m.s.
I'm not a jerk like Cliff or TMT. I expect your reciprocation. Any ****
is still going to come back over the fence though.

Unless I screw up and fail to strip out a newsgroup in the header, which I
do sometimes by accident, I'll continue to strip out the other newsgroups
in any message that I know was written by someone from RCM.

But now you're posting from RCM yourself, so I won't know where the hell
YOU're coming from half of the time. d8-)



Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently." So tell me, are you feeling differently now? =|:-)'

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Phil Amint" wrote in message
...


"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile
things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it
is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to
talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the
Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect,
except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the
gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked
many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash.
That includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress.
You choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here
where it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group
reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist
bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him,
good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off
leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the
fence. Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the
cross-posting go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small
fraction of what we experience from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA
character has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my
favorites has been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects
seem top be Cliff and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same
time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their
frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not
mentioned earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us,
and we have ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit
posting off-topic to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up
as CA seems to be saying it will.

I've never posted off-topic to "their" newsgroup. All I've ever done is
reply to the insulting provocations from the creeps, freaks, and k00ks
who post from there to here -- like the Perpetual Adolescent.

We don't control Cliff or TMT any more than we control the Adolescent,
and he should realize that. So taking out his frustrations by spamming
here just makes him another one of the jerks.

If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently.


Just a few minutes ago you responded to my post where I replied to a
post from here. So either you are a liar or just purposely being obtuse,
or both. I suspect both.

Hey, jackass, I REPLIED to a post. That's what I said -- I never initiate
a post, or a new thread, that crosses newsgroup lines. I only respond to
cross-posted messages that are initiated by some insulting jackass --
like you.


Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a
little differently."

I DO feel differently about that post. d8-)

But your other posts are those stinking cross-posted crap.

Now, if you want to stay here and join Cliff and TMT in everyone's bozo bin,
I'm sure things will die down quickly, because you'll find yourself pretty
universally ignored. It's mostly when your misc.survivalist.nutbags buddies
chime in that the leakage starts smelling the place up.

snip

Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either
Amint or me, butthead?

Who said anyone can control you? I said nobody *can*. And if you or Amint
think we can control Cliff or TMT, let's see Amint try to control *you*, and
see how far he gets.

sheesh I'll have to find a way to post in larger letters. You seem to have
quite a reading problem.

Here, look at that paragraph again and see where you get the idea that
anyone can control you. AFAIC, you're completely out of control:


If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
says we should do.

I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I
may be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white space
right here --

Go back in the archives for years. You'll find my complaints to Cliff. And
ask Cliff if he's saved my old e-mails. As I said, I've surely tried.

Now, do you have something to contribute about metalworking? If not, maybe
it's time for you to hurry home to m.s.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Phil Amint" wrote in message
...


"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile
things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it
is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to
talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the
Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect,
except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the
gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked
many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash.
That includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a
dress. You choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it
back here where it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group
reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist
bigoted crap into m.s.

Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him,
good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off
leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the
fence. Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the
cross-posting go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small
fraction of what we experience from your trolls. Have a nice day.


I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA
character has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my
favorites has been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects
seem top be Cliff and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same
time.

While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I
can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out
their frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not
mentioned earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us,
and we have ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit
posting off-topic to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases
up as CA seems to be saying it will.

I've never posted off-topic to "their" newsgroup. All I've ever done
is reply to the insulting provocations from the creeps, freaks, and
k00ks who post from there to here -- like the Perpetual Adolescent.

We don't control Cliff or TMT any more than we control the Adolescent,
and he should realize that. So taking out his frustrations by spamming
here just makes him another one of the jerks.

If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a little
differently.


Just a few minutes ago you responded to my post where I replied to a
post from here. So either you are a liar or just purposely being
obtuse, or both. I suspect both.

Hey, jackass, I REPLIED to a post. That's what I said -- I never
initiate a post, or a new thread, that crosses newsgroup lines. I only
respond to cross-posted messages that are initiated by some insulting
jackass -- like you.


Your words... "If he only replied to posts from here, I might feel a
little differently."

I DO feel differently about that post. d8-)

But your other posts are those stinking cross-posted crap.

Now, if you want to stay here and join Cliff and TMT in everyone's bozo
bin, I'm sure things will die down quickly, because you'll find yourself
pretty universally ignored. It's mostly when your misc.survivalist.nutbags
buddies chime in that the leakage starts smelling the place up.


Maybe we can invite the whole lot to come over here to play. Just so we're
clear about your wishes, is that what you are asking for? We can grant an
doddering old man a final wish.



snip

Your words... "Tell him to knock off initiating posts to RCM, and it may
quiet down." So tell me...what makes you think you can control either
Amint or me, butthead?

Who said anyone can control you? I said nobody *can*. And if you or Amint
think we can control Cliff or TMT, let's see Amint try to control *you*,
and see how far he gets.

sheesh I'll have to find a way to post in larger letters. You seem to
have quite a reading problem.

Here, look at that paragraph again and see where you get the idea that
anyone can control you. AFAIC, you're completely out of control:


If he thinks we can do something about Cliff or TMT -- and Lord knows,
we've tried -- then let's see what happens when he tries to do what he
says we should do.

I'm curious, what have you tried? Because if you have tried something I
may be wrong about you. Please post what you have tried in the white
space right here --

Go back in the archives for years. You'll find my complaints to Cliff. And
ask Cliff if he's saved my old e-mails. As I said, I've surely tried.

Now, do you have something to contribute about metalworking? If not, maybe
it's time for you to hurry home to m.s.

--
Ed Huntress


Sure, I'll play. Try sticking a ball peen hammer up your ass and see if you
can give your brain a few taps.

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...



Maybe we can invite the whole lot to come over here to play. Just so we're
clear about your wishes, is that what you are asking for? We can grant an
doddering old man a final wish.

Of course you can. Being a selfish, self-centered prick, you'd find that to
be right up your alley.

I took a look in at misc.survivalist.nutbags and I see you're running a
swell cesspool over there, Adolescent. Isn't there enough pig**** for you to
wallow in at home? You want to spread it around, so you've come in here to
take a dump?

You guys could do something for yourselves by trading recipes or something.
Gunner can give you tips on how to spot the salmonella and rat **** in a
Dumpster. He's eaten out of one, he says.

And there must be a lot of ways to make jerky out of your pets. You'll be
all ready for the revolution that Gunner says is coming. Make sure you have
plenty of antibiotics; you never know what kinds of conservatives will move
in with you when the **** hits the fan.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message
...



Maybe we can invite the whole lot to come over here to play. Just so
we're clear about your wishes, is that what you are asking for? We can
grant an doddering old man a final wish.

Of course you can. Being a selfish, self-centered prick, you'd find that
to be right up your alley.

I took a look in at misc.survivalist.nutbags and I see you're running a
swell cesspool over there, Adolescent. Isn't there enough pig**** for you
to wallow in at home? You want to spread it around, so you've come in here
to take a dump?

You guys could do something for yourselves by trading recipes or
something. Gunner can give you tips on how to spot the salmonella and rat
**** in a Dumpster. He's eaten out of one, he says.

And there must be a lot of ways to make jerky out of your pets. You'll be
all ready for the revolution that Gunner says is coming. Make sure you
have plenty of antibiotics; you never know what kinds of conservatives
will move in with you when the **** hits the fan.


You will be one of the first to go during the Great Cull, right alongside
your butt buddy TMT.