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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me, pard'. Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me, pard'. Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. -- Ed Huntress |
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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we should all declare who we are. I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to bring out the worst in some people. I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or AMC. If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His InternationalAppeal
On Oct 3, 7:32*pm, Wes wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote: Ed, what is with you and John lately? *You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to life. *While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we should all declare who we are. I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. *It seems to bring out the worst in some people. * I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or AMC. If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. *Myself included. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller But of course your buddies like Gunner get a free pass. Wes...just admit it...you are a conservative winger who can't handle The Truth. And there is plenty of Truth to go around as the Country struggles back from the edge of the disaster that Bush brought us to. TMT |
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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
"Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we should all declare who we are. I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to bring out the worst in some people. I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or AMC. If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included. Wes Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-) And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all of the other NGs pasted back on. Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him. There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads. You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting new threads. Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for arguments at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What he's "into" is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet. I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of discipline on our part will stop. The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this place. It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has taken off on a rampage against the new administration. These people are among the most loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In that atmosphere, good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and to go through a transformation into name-calling with amazing speed. So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-) I kill filtered CA a long time ago. Googling shows a pure troll as in no redeeming qualities. I know how you feel though. TMT iritated me enough that I used some rather foul language in reponse. That is problably what he wanted. He wanted me to lower myself. Perhaps CA wants the same from you? And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all of the other NGs pasted back on. Cliff could be a contributing member of some groups but he can't turn off his rants. I wonder how he would have tested on that narcissist test in an earlier thread? Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him. The view from here is you, replying to yourself since most of his troll bait from the other groups have been filtered out. I fired up the laptop the other day and saw R.C.M. with the filters off. What a mess. I gotta transfer my current filter list to it asap. There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads. That is why we have kill filters. If we don't see them, we don't get tempted to reply. I know it is hard though. You can look up some of my earlier posts and I was prime troll bait. I keep trying not to bite. Hope I can keep my resolve come winter. You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting new threads. The analogy of a screaming kid being ignored by the parent until the kid wears himself out applies. However, the screaming is hard on all the bystanders. Wes |
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Obama's Olympic Failure Highlights Limits of His International Appeal
"Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-) I kill filtered CA a long time ago. Googling shows a pure troll as in no redeeming qualities. I know how you feel though. TMT iritated me enough that I used some rather foul language in reponse. That is problably what he wanted. He wanted me to lower myself. Perhaps CA wants the same from you? And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all of the other NGs pasted back on. Cliff could be a contributing member of some groups but he can't turn off his rants. I wonder how he would have tested on that narcissist test in an earlier thread? Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him. The view from here is you, replying to yourself since most of his troll bait from the other groups have been filtered out. I fired up the laptop the other day and saw R.C.M. with the filters off. What a mess. I gotta transfer my current filter list to it asap. There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads. That is why we have kill filters. If we don't see them, we don't get tempted to reply. I know it is hard though. You can look up some of my earlier posts and I was prime troll bait. I keep trying not to bite. Hope I can keep my resolve come winter. You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting new threads. The analogy of a screaming kid being ignored by the parent until the kid wears himself out applies. However, the screaming is hard on all the bystanders. Wes I realize that, and I'm sorry for contributing to the mess. But I love the smell of napalm in the morning... -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we should all declare who we are. I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to bring out the worst in some people. I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or AMC. If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included. Wes Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-) And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all of the other NGs pasted back on. Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him. There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads. You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting new threads. Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for arguments at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What he's "into" is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet. I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of discipline on our part will stop. The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this place. It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has taken off on a rampage against the new administration. These people are among the most loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In that atmosphere, good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and to go through a transformation into name-calling with amazing speed. So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s. Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience from your trolls. Have a nice day. |
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s. Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience from your trolls. Have a nice day. I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same time. While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying it will. |
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Whack a mole? The only thing Ed whacks off is himself. I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. That includes TMT, Cliff, and now for some reason Ed **** in a dress. You choose to spill your spam into m.s., I just forward it back here where it belongs. I have never seen a post from this group reprimanding either TMT or Cliff for cross-posting their racist bigoted crap into m.s. Childish Ed **** in a dress freely admits that this is fun for him, good, let him enjoy the fun. He's another troll that you let run off leash and **** in m.s. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. Keep your trolls on a shorter leash and you will see the cross-posting go away. FWIW, r.c.m. is only experiencing a small fraction of what we experience from your trolls. Have a nice day. I've been lurking, but I guess it's time to speak up. This CA character has a very good point. The m.s. group which is one of my favorites has been over-run with spam from this group. The suspects seem top be Cliff and TMT who post to many newsgroups at the same time. While I don't like seeing the spam here in rec.crafts.metalworking, I can't say that I blame the misc.survivalism crew from taking out their frustrations on us. Cliff, TMT and now Ed and John Carroll (not mentioned earlier, but is also a participant) are all belong to us, and we have ignored requests to try to keep them in check. So quit posting off-topic to their newsgroup and lets see if the spam eases up as CA seems to be saying it will. |
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"Compact Adolescent" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. Wes Testing Adolescent's cool. He reacts in a funny way. It looks like he's had it too easy for a while, and I'm just trying to provoke him. d8-) This is Whac-a-Mole with righties, Wes. It's the only entertainment left in this place, thanks to Cliff and a couple of others who keep cross-posting. If Cliff and TMT left this world or found other interests, this group would come back to life. While I like the relative anonymity of Usenet, I'm starting to think maybe we should all declare who we are. I also wonder how many psychologists are researching Usenet and behavior. It seems to bring out the worst in some people. I'm even filtering right wingers out if they are not metalworking participants at RCM or AMC. If only we could learn to stop feeding the trolls. Myself included. Wes Wes, take a look at a few patterns that have emerged lately. Adolescent isn't responding with a list of NGs that happens to include RCM: he CREATES new posts, one after another, with RCM in the list. He's actively inserting RCM into the distributions. That's why I have no respect for him, and feel free to say anything to him that reflects my annoyance. d8-) And a few weeks ago you, or someone else, trimmed a distro from a thread that Cliff had created, leaving just RCM on it, and Cliff responded with all of the other NGs pasted back on. Also note that Adolescent got no responses from RCM for a long time but he continued to include RCM in his distro lists. He's operating like a spammer; once a NG is on there, he keeps using it. It's a numbers game for him. There is no way that non-response is going to affect these people. Trolling has morphed into something that's more like spamming. They aren't looking for an argument so much as a forum for plastering their views up on the wall, like posters in a subway. Cliff, Adolescent, and one or two others are creating threads to provoke and to insult other people, and they don't care when or if anyone responds from those groups. If they don't get enough response to indicate that they're getting under someone's skin, they just start new, more provocative threads. You aren't going to get rid of them, least of all by ignoring them. They'll just turn up the noise level until they get a response or two. That's all it takes to keep them going. And if no one responds, they just keep starting new threads. Adolescent has picked up one of Gunner's old habits, cutting and pasting lengthy diatribes from the right-wing media. He's not looking for arguments at all. You can tell he isn't really into that part of it. What he's "into" is spreading his obnoxious polemics around Usenet. I have several people, one from RCM, in my bozo bin and they've all been there for over a year. But they keep "leaking" through. Often it's because someone from another NG responded to them -- something which no amount of discipline on our part will stop. The effect, to me, is to seriously foul the air and the mood in this place. It's really become obnoxious, especially since the right wing has taken off on a rampage against the new administration. These people are among the most loutish, juvenile, and selfish creeps I've ever seen. In that atmosphere, good on-topic discussions tend to have a short life and to go through a transformation into name-calling with amazing speed. So I'm not really here in spirit. I welcome the few worthwhile things that get through the noise, but Usenet is near death as it is, and I'm getting ready to move out and find another place to talk. Maybe I'll follow Jim Rozen. Meantime, I may hammer on the Whac-a-Moles from time to time, because it really has no effect, except to relieve some annoyance. I'm really tempted to take the gloves off and see how much Adolescent can take. d8-) -- Ed Huntress Whack a mole? You're the mole. I have asked many times in this group to put your spammers on a shorter leash. We have one for you, Adolescent. You won't like the collar, though. It tightens up as you hang there. I'm just throwing the **** back over the fence. You're a lying slimeball, Adolescent. You're the source of much of it. Have a nice day. It's time for you to drive your bus, Adolescent. There's a nice cliff over on your right... -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:44:16 -0400, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following: "Ed Huntress" wrote: Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me, pard'. Ed, what is with you and John lately? You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. There's prolly a little bit of arsenic in the Obama koolaid, or they drank triple doses. shrug -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw |
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On Oct 3, 6:44*pm, Wes wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote: Jeez. *You're* the one with his asshole sliding down over a rock, not me, pard'. Ed, what is with you and John lately? *You both are sliding into the gutter with your responses. * Wes You mean you don't like to hear someone sound like you? TMT |
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