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High Quality Casters For Big, Heavy Toolboxes
The standard casters that Kennedy furnishes for their toolboxes
aren't very good. I'm thinking it would be nice to have some high quality U.S. made casters that make moving my very heavy main toolbox (see toolbox pictures thread in alt.machines.cnc) a very easy task. Should I be looking at polyurethane casters with roller bearings? If not what should I be looking for? So far I've found this: http://www.erwagner.com/casterswheels/products/ U.S. made is my preference but if there are no high-quality U.S. made casters than what else is there? No cheap Chinese knock-off caster links please. Jon Banquer San Diego, CA |
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On Jun 15, 7:32�pm, jon_banquer wrote:
The standard casters that Kennedy furnishes for their toolboxes aren't very good. I'm thinking it would be nice to have some high quality U.S. made casters that make moving my very heavy main toolbox (see toolbox pictures thread in alt.machines.cnc) a very easy task. Should I be looking at polyurethane casters with roller bearings? If not what should I be looking for? So far I've found this: http://www.erwagner.com/casterswheels/products/ U.S. made is my preference but if there are no high-quality U.S. made casters than what else is there? No cheap Chinese knock-off caster links please. Jon Banquer San Diego, CA Jon In San Diego there for sure is a good caster supplier. If not McMaster- Carr is a good place to shop. Bob AZ |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:32:50 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
wrote: The standard casters that Kennedy furnishes for their toolboxes aren't very good. I'm thinking it would be nice to have some high quality U.S. made casters that make moving my very heavy main toolbox (see toolbox pictures thread in alt.machines.cnc) a very easy task. Should I be looking at polyurethane casters with roller bearings? If not what should I be looking for? So far I've found this: http://www.erwagner.com/casterswheels/products/ U.S. made is my preference but if there are no high-quality U.S. made casters than what else is there? No cheap Chinese knock-off caster links please. Jon Banquer San Diego, CA Check Grainger & McMaster-Carr. I'm using 6" steel w/polyurethane tires and ball bearings, 850 lb. capacity each. Toolbox is a LARGE Vidmar box. Bob |
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High Quality Casters For Big, Heavy Toolboxes
I have Harbor Freight 5" 650 lbs casters on a homemade dolly that
spends most of its time outside, and is often used for moving heavy loads (up to 1000 lbs). They perform very well and never give me trouble. Suggestion of McMaster carr for domestic made casters is seconded. i |
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High Quality Casters For Big, Heavy Toolboxes
"Ignoramus16095" wrote in message ... I have Harbor Freight 5" 650 lbs casters on a homemade dolly that spends most of its time outside, and is often used for moving heavy loads (up to 1000 lbs). They perform very well and never give me trouble. Suggestion of McMaster carr for domestic made casters is seconded. i I got 600# casters at Orchard Supply and Hardware. I figure they have stores in SD. They are in Los Angeles as well as NorCal. |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:41:36 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus16095
scrawled the following: I have Harbor Freight 5" 650 lbs casters on a homemade dolly that spends most of its time outside, and is often used for moving heavy loads (up to 1000 lbs). They perform very well and never give me trouble. I swear by the HF 5-inchers, too, but I have never kept a kiloton on top of a set and I don't know how they would stand up to it. My little wood lathe has been on a set for at least 7 years, but that's less than 200 lbs. No degradation has been seen at that level of weight. I like the 5-inchers because they can jump anything up to the size of an air hose without hesitation. Suggestion of McMaster carr for domestic made casters is seconded. I remember meeting a very nice guy at Westek eons ago. Now what was that caster company name...? Ah, Darnell-Rose. See http://www.casters.com/ -- Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. -- Eleanor Roosevelt |
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:23:24 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:41:36 -0500, ... Ignoramus16095 [wrote] I have Harbor Freight 5" 650 lbs casters on a homemade dolly that spends most of its time outside, and is often used for moving heavy loads (up to 1000 lbs). They perform very well and never give me trouble. I swear by the HF 5-inchers, too, but I have never kept a kiloton on top of a set and I don't know how they would stand up to it. My little wood lathe has been on a set for at least 7 years, but that's less than 200 lbs. No degradation has been seen at that level of weight. Ok, but a kiloton is 10000 times as heavy; for any ordinary casters, I'd expect that load to immediately crush the casters or shear the axles or both, and push the remains through the floor. .... I remember meeting a very nice guy at Westek eons ago. Now what was that caster company name...? Ah, Darnell-Rose. See http://www.casters.com/ -- jiw |
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
Next question: The one nice thing about a Versa Cart is that when setup like this... https://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/p...ategoryID=3940 it's very maneuverable. The Versa Cart can also be setup with the two big 10" solid rubber wheels on one end and both swivel casters on the other end which is nowhere near as maneuverable. Do you think if I set up the Versa Cart with 5" fixed casters in the middle on both sides and kept the same position for the swivel casters (in the middle at each end) that I would have a much more maneuverable platform than the traditional toolbox setup which consists of fixed casters on one end and swivel casters on the opposite end? Jon Banquer San Diego, CA |
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On Jun 15, 9:32*pm, jon_banquer wrote:
The standard casters that Kennedy furnishes for their toolboxes aren't very good. I'm thinking it would be nice to have some high quality U.S. made casters that make moving my very heavy main toolbox (see toolbox pictures thread in alt.machines.cnc) a very easy task. Should I be looking at polyurethane casters with roller bearings? If not what should I be looking for? So far I've found this: http://www.erwagner.com/casterswheels/products/ U.S. made is my preference but if there are no high-quality U.S. made casters than what else is there? No cheap Chinese knock-off caster links please. Jon Banquer San Diego, CA Might I suggest metal wheels. In my experience anything else will develop flat spots over time. And over buy in terms of capacity...some toolboxes hold well over a thousand pounds since metal items add up fast. TMT TMT |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:40aa1898-f849-45af-
: Might I suggest metal wheels. In my experience anything else will develop flat spots over time. And over buy in terms of capacity...some toolboxes hold well over a thousand pounds since metal items add up fast. TMT I'd go with polyurethane over steel. Like these http://www.sunray- inc.com/store/casters.asp No opinion on this particular vendor, just the first link I found on the ype I was searching for. IMHO polyurethane over steel is the best of both worlds. You get the weight capacity and flat spot resistance of metal wheels. Ability to roll over pebbles and other small trash that would make the metal only ones come to a stop. And a heck of a lot less noisy to drive around. 700LB capacity on this 4x2 swivel is about the same capacity you'd find on an all steel wheel of similar size. |
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On Jun 17, 1:39*am, Charles U Farley wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:40aa1898-f849-45af- : Might I suggest metal wheels. In my experience anything else will develop flat spots over time. And over buy in terms of capacity...some toolboxes hold well over a thousand pounds since metal items add up fast. TMT I'd go with polyurethane over steel. *Like thesehttp://www.sunray- inc.com/store/casters.asp *No opinion on this particular vendor, just the first link I found on the ype I was searching for. IMHO polyurethane over steel is the best of both worlds. *You get the weight capacity and flat spot resistance of metal wheels. *Ability to roll over pebbles and other small trash that would make the metal only ones come to a stop. *And a heck of a lot less noisy to drive around. 700LB capacity on this 4x2 swivel is about the same capacity you'd find on an all steel wheel of similar size. That is a good alternative....BUT....any heavy load will set flat spots on the casters. I am in the process of changing out dozens of casters that I used under machines that have developed a set. TMT |
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Charles U Farley wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:40aa1898-f849-45af- : Might I suggest metal wheels. In my experience anything else will develop flat spots over time. And over buy in terms of capacity...some toolboxes hold well over a thousand pounds since metal items add up fast. TMT I'd go with polyurethane over steel. Like these http://www.sunray- inc.com/store/casters.asp No opinion on this particular vendor, just the first link I found on the ype I was searching for. IMHO polyurethane over steel is the best of both worlds. You get the weight capacity and flat spot resistance of metal wheels. Ability to roll over pebbles and other small trash that would make the metal only ones come to a stop. And a heck of a lot less noisy to drive around. 700LB capacity on this 4x2 swivel is about the same capacity you'd find on an all steel wheel of similar size. I tossed out the stock casters and went with a custom solution on my largest boxes. I started by making a cradle subframe (like an off road style creeper) that would bolt under the box and has a solid axle on one end and caster mounts on the other. The wheels themselves are 12" pneumatics. Both ends also are wider than the box. In the front this gives me a step that assists getting into that top tray, and in the rear it keeps the box spaced away from the wall so that the lid and power cords don't bind. The large tires make it VERY easy to move the box over different surfaces. Cords and air lines don't really slow you down either. Tires are rated for 1K each so I don't think I'll ever overload them!!! -- Steve W. |
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Just a little data point. I have a Snap-On tool cabinet
http://yabe.algebra.com/~ichudov/mis...-Tool-Cabinet/ (it is not for sale, despite what the page says). It is full of metalworking stuff, including heavy things, and its 4" casters are fully adequate on concrete floor. i |
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:41:50 -0500, the infamous James Waldby
scrawled the following: On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:23:24 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:41:36 -0500, ... Ignoramus16095 [wrote] I have Harbor Freight 5" 650 lbs casters on a homemade dolly that spends most of its time outside, and is often used for moving heavy loads (up to 1000 lbs). They perform very well and never give me trouble. I swear by the HF 5-inchers, too, but I have never kept a kiloton on top of a set and I don't know how they would stand up to it. My little wood lathe has been on a set for at least 7 years, but that's less than 200 lbs. No degradation has been seen at that level of weight. Ok, but a kiloton is 10000 times as heavy; for any ordinary casters, I'd expect that load to immediately crush the casters or shear the axles or both, and push the remains through the floor. You forgot the facetiousity fudge factor, fella. Don't people exaggerate in your neck of the woods, Jimmy boy? sigh (shakes head, grinning) -- Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. -- Eleanor Roosevelt |
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On Jun 17, 2:49*pm, "Steve W." wrote:
Charles U Farley wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:40aa1898-f849-45af- : Might I suggest metal wheels. In my experience anything else will develop flat spots over time. And over buy in terms of capacity...some toolboxes hold well over a thousand pounds since metal items add up fast. TMT I'd go with polyurethane over steel. *Like thesehttp://www.sunray- inc.com/store/casters.asp *No opinion on this particular vendor, just the first link I found on the ype I was searching for. IMHO polyurethane over steel is the best of both worlds. *You get the weight capacity and flat spot resistance of metal wheels. *Ability to roll over pebbles and other small trash that would make the metal only ones come to a stop. *And a heck of a lot less noisy to drive around. 700LB capacity on this 4x2 swivel is about the same capacity you'd find on an all steel wheel of similar size. I tossed out the stock casters and went with a custom solution on my largest boxes. I started by making a cradle subframe (like an off road style creeper) that would bolt under the box and has a solid axle on one end and caster mounts on the other. The wheels themselves are 12" pneumatics. Both ends also are wider than the box. In the front this gives me a step that assists getting into that top tray, and in the rear it keeps the box spaced away from the wall so that the lid and power cords don't bind. The large tires make it VERY easy to move the box over different surfaces. Cords and air lines don't really slow you down either. Tires are rated for 1K each so I don't think I'll ever overload them!!! -- Steve W. What happens when you get a flat? Does the box fall over? TMT |
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