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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by “a major American print publication” to offer a 400-word statement explaining his “hope for the Obama presidency.” He responded: So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive- By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it. It hasn’t taken long for Limbaugh to reveal his core hypocrisy. In July 2006, with conservatives in power, Limbaugh offered one of his common screeds against the left. “I’m getting so sick and tired of people rooting for the defeat of the good guys,” he complained. During the Clinton presidency in the 90s, Limbaugh would begin his show with a gimmick, purporting to count the days America had been “held hostage.” In May 2007, Limbaugh recalled: Back when Clinton was inaugurated in 1993 and we began our America Held Hostage countdown, the number of days left until Clinton was gone so we’d all be released from bondage, the joke, do you remember how mad the liberals got at that? Do you remember how mad the Drive-Bys got at that? Then they started running stories how I, Rush Limbaugh, was destroying the respect for the office of the presidency that the American people had. A disastrous Bush presidency has come and gone, but some things haven’t changed a bit. |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh.
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold |
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"Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:29:48 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan
Vordos" scrawled the following: "Buerste" wrote in message .. . At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Hah! We all know how it happened: You cooked that night. bseg Say, are you and Susan keeping your ankles dry, 'arry? I saw the pics of the most recent Centralia floods recently. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Empirin and Codeine saved my life. A friend had sold me her prescription and it was that coupled with my alcoholism which got me so sick that I couldn't go to work the next week. It triggered my acceptance of the alcoholism and I got help. Great stuff, BTW. I'm just lucky I was more of an alcoholic than a druggie. The trip on alcohol was bad enough. -- Even with the best of maps and instruments, we can never fully chart our journeys. -- Gail Pool |
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Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:
"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'? "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. |
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On Jan 20, 8:09*pm, "Libby Loo" wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by “a major American print publication” to offer a 400-word statement explaining his “hope for the Obama presidency.” He responded: So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive- By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it.. It hasn’t taken long for Limbaugh to reveal his core hypocrisy. In July 2006, with conservatives in power, Limbaugh offered one of his common screeds against the left. “I’m getting so sick and tired of people rooting for the defeat of the good guys,” he complained. During the Clinton presidency in the 90s, Limbaugh would begin his show with a gimmick, purporting to count the days America had been “held hostage.” In May 2007, Limbaugh recalled: Back when Clinton was inaugurated in 1993 and we began our America Held Hostage countdown, the number of days left until Clinton was gone so we’d all be released from bondage, the joke, do you remember how mad the liberals got at that? Do you remember how mad the Drive-Bys got at that? Then they started running stories how I, Rush Limbaugh, was destroying the respect for the office of the presidency that the American people had. A disastrous Bush presidency has come and gone, but some things haven’t changed a bit. This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. 2) (More importantly) Rush hosts an ENTERTAINMENT show. Dave |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'? "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. Maybe, but the opposite is not necessarily true. I hope we don't wind up being reflexively critical of people who are prone to addictions. It isn't necessarily, or even predominantly, a sign of weakness. I've seen some strong people develop chemical additions to things I just brush off. I attribute it to different physiologies, not to personal strength or weakness. Limbaugh is a disgusting parasite who thrives on the lowest traits of his followers, but he's neither weak nor stupid. I doubt if personal strengths or weaknesses played any role in his addiction to painkillers. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave |
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On Jan 21, 1:01*pm, Stuart Wheaton wrote:
wrote: 2) (More importantly) Rush hosts an ENTERTAINMENT show. Then he ought to sing and dance and stop bloviating about something he's clueless on...like politics... Wait...Is this Rush guy actually Gunner? Strange things pass for entertainment these days... If Rush can whip true believers and critics alike into a frenzy, he's successful, in that he will get more listeners and earn more. Like in the early days of howard stern- 1/2 his loyal listeners hated his guts. Dave |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve What he's known for is catering to people with attitudes like yours, Steve. He knows where your buttons are and he writes a running narrative that keeps you hopping like a monkey with a pair of electrodes in the pleasure center of his brain. If you pay attention, you'll notice that his underlying method is to supply you with a steady stream of scapegoats to blame for your troubles and failures. He taps your hatreds and grievances, and shapes them in a way that keeps satisfying your need to feel superior to some other identifiable group. It's an old technique, to which he's added some show-biz techniques that keep you coming back for more. Enjoy his show. It's all for your benefit. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:29:48 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan Vordos" scrawled the following: "Buerste" wrote in message . .. At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Hah! We all know how it happened: You cooked that night. bseg Heh! According to the Mrs., I'm a pretty good cook. Ain't true, but I hate to burst her bubble. Say, are you and Susan keeping your ankles dry, 'arry? I saw the pics of the most recent Centralia floods recently. Yep! High & dry. While the lowlands were getting flooded, it was because the two feet of snow we received (very unusual) was being melted by the relatively warm rain storm that hit the area. Mountains received up to 20" of rain, while lowlands received as much as 10". Damned fools built in the flood plane, and that's where all the new development is taking place. We're about 800' higher than the valley. When (if) we flood, the world is in trouble. Harold |
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"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: snip---. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. Yep! Needy people. They generally have a crutch of sorts ----smokes----beer-----drugs-----anything but facing the world cold turkey. No need to get in my face for my comments. I smoked a pipe for years, and enjoy a scotch and water as much as anyone---- (but no drugs). However, the harsh reality is many folks simply don't function without their crutch. It may even be the religion of their choosing..but they have something that acts as a detraction, or what ever you choose to call it. Not me------I just slog along and deal with things as they come up. And listen to music! :-) Harold |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve I think you "didn't get it", Steve. I think he's nothing but a low down slug. I'd rather slam the head of my dick in a door than listen to him yammer. I'm of the opinion that he wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and hit him in the ass. He's all about telling you things he thinks you want to hear. That may or may not have anything to do with truth. Harold |
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wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:07:00 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan
Vordos" scrawled the following: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:29:48 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan Vordos" scrawled the following: "Buerste" wrote in message ... At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Hah! We all know how it happened: You cooked that night. bseg Heh! According to the Mrs., I'm a pretty good cook. Ain't true, but I hate to burst her bubble. Shucks, and I thought I had it all figured out... Say, are you and Susan keeping your ankles dry, 'arry? I saw the pics of the most recent Centralia floods recently. Yep! High & dry. While the lowlands were getting flooded, it was because the two feet of snow we received (very unusual) was being melted by the relatively warm rain storm that hit the area. Mountains received up to 20" of rain, while lowlands received as much as 10". Oy vay! Datsa lotta rain. Damned fools built in the flood plane, and that's where all the new development is taking place. Yeah, the "prime lots" just happen to be 20' under the 100-year flood levels. Buncha maroons everywhere, and we have to pay for it in our insurance rates. Brilliant! I'm surprised that I-5 was included in that area. Why didn't they build it up or wall it off at the depressions, I wonder? We're about 800' higher than the valley. When (if) we flood, the world is in trouble. So you're not at all worried about Globular Swarming, are you? -- Even with the best of maps and instruments, we can never fully chart our journeys. -- Gail Pool |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:20:54 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan
Vordos" scrawled the following: wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Indeed! Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? I'm not a religious man, but I pray to God that those words don't come back to haunt us... crossing all appendages -- Even with the best of maps and instruments, we can never fully chart our journeys. -- Gail Pool |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve I think you "didn't get it", Steve. I think he's nothing but a low down slug. I'd rather slam the head of my dick in a door than listen to him yammer. I'm of the opinion that he wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and hit him in the ass. He's all about telling you things he thinks you want to hear. That may or may not have anything to do with truth. Harold Yeah. Maybe Al Franken was right about him. After all, Al has such a reputation in statesmanship, oratory, lawmaking, and diplomacy, not to mention his personal affairs. I don't agree with everything Rush says, but he's a couple of light years ahead of most "knowledgeable" people. Particularly leftie socialist liberals. If you want real torture, I suggest you listen to Al Gore, or Alfred E. Obama say "Uh" 34 out of 50 words. Steve |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold I wish him well, too, because it's all going to affect me. I just don't think he will do particularly well, and I DO hope to be proven wrong. Steve |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: snip---. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. Yep! Needy people. They generally have a crutch of sorts ----smokes----beer-----drugs-----anything but facing the world cold turkey. No need to get in my face for my comments. I smoked a pipe for years, and enjoy a scotch and water as much as anyone---- (but no drugs). However, the harsh reality is many folks simply don't function without their crutch. It may even be the religion of their choosing..but they have something that acts as a detraction, or what ever you choose to call it. Not me------I just slog along and deal with things as they come up. And listen to music! :-) Harold I choose to let each person decide for themselves, not to judge, and to let everyone answer in their own way for what they've done. I know I sure spend less time thinking about them. Got two friends right now, one dealing with multiple surgeries from Crohn's disease and related kidney ailments, the other bladder cancer. Boy, they sure like their pain pills. Guess they're just weak minded people who can't handle reality. If you're so strong, pour the scotch down the sink. Steve |
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On Jan 21, 7:50*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in s.net... "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. *Rush is known for facts and truth. *I don't expect anything else from him. Steve If there is ANYTHING Rush is NOT known for it is FACTS and TRUTH. Do you subscribe to a newspaper, listen to real news, watch television? Even Faux News is better than Rush. Steve, you really need to get out and see/hear the world for yourself. TMT |
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On Jan 21, 8:19*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message . .. "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. *Rush is known for facts and truth. *I don't expect anything else from him. Steve What he's known for is catering to people with attitudes like yours, Steve. He knows where your buttons are and he writes a running narrative that keeps you hopping like a monkey with a pair of electrodes in the pleasure center of his brain. If you pay attention, you'll notice that his underlying method is to supply you with a steady stream of scapegoats to blame for your troubles and failures. He taps your hatreds and grievances, and shapes them in a way that keeps satisfying your need to feel superior to some other identifiable group. It's an old technique, to which he's added some show-biz techniques that keep you coming back for more. Enjoy his show. It's all for your benefit. -- Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ed is correct. If you want a historical lesson, spend an afternoon listening to tapes of Hitler's speeches. They sound just like Rush. TMT |
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On Jan 21, 11:20*pm, "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote:
wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. *Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold I agree. If he turns out to be failure, I will be one of the first to say it. Considering that Bush has left him with what another poster called "a live gernade", he has his work cut out for him. If you are an American, you better hope that he succeeds. Anyone who is condemning Obama now at the beginning of the term is showing their true unpatriotic colors. TMT TMT |
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On Jan 21, 4:47*pm, wrote:
On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM. 15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wan't it Bush who is/was nationalizing the banks? Sounds like a socialist to me. TMT |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:20:54 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan Vordos" scrawled the following: Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? I'm not a religious man, but I pray to God that those words don't come back to haunt us... crossing all appendages Not being a religious person either a BIG " A-MEN " to that. :-) ...lew... |
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Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in
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"Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in commercials on the Rush Limbaugh radio? i First off, national radio advertisers often don't even know what programs air their commercials. Radio time at that level is bought in packages that guarantee demographics and numbers of listeners, not particular programs. But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2009-01-22, Ed Huntress wrote:
"Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in commercials on the Rush Limbaugh radio? i First off, national radio advertisers often don't even know what programs air their commercials. Radio time at that level is bought in packages that guarantee demographics and numbers of listeners, not particular programs. But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. The reason for my question was this. I have a shed and to keep pests away, I keep a radio turned on in it that has some sort of a conservative program, but I think that it is not Rush Limbaugh. It works pretty well as, I think, pests think there are people in the shed and become uncomfortable. (or maybe pests are liberal in nature) I keep some welding gas tanks in the shed and other things. In any case, when I am in the shed, I find the commercials to be of a little peculiar nature. I do not want to offend anyone, so I will not elaborate, but I found their selection a little odd. That's why I asked about commercials on Rush Limbaugh radio. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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"Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... On 2009-01-22, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in commercials on the Rush Limbaugh radio? i First off, national radio advertisers often don't even know what programs air their commercials. Radio time at that level is bought in packages that guarantee demographics and numbers of listeners, not particular programs. But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. The reason for my question was this. I have a shed and to keep pests away, I keep a radio turned on in it that has some sort of a conservative program, but I think that it is not Rush Limbaugh. It works pretty well as, I think, pests think there are people in the shed and become uncomfortable. (or maybe pests are liberal in nature) I keep some welding gas tanks in the shed and other things. In any case, when I am in the shed, I find the commercials to be of a little peculiar nature. I do not want to offend anyone, so I will not elaborate, but I found their selection a little odd. That's why I asked about commercials on Rush Limbaugh radio. Aha. Well, if it's a local show, it may be mostly advertisers solicited by the station's own time salesman. The pattern is different for national advertisers and local ones. And you would know it if you were listening to Rush. g -- Ed Huntress |
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On Jan 22, 9:11*am, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jan 21, 4:47*pm, wrote: On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM. 15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wan't it Bush who is/was nationalizing the banks? Sounds like a socialist to me. TMT I'm not the one saying he's leading us down that path. marxist/animal rights nut/tax cheat cabinet members do concern me, though. Dave |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:
But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. Anti-Limbaugh or anti-opposing views? One of the disturbing things about the left is that they tend to try to disrupt debate if they do not like it. Now the downside of having a previous advertiser drop any politically oriented show is that for the customers they may mollify the ones they alienate will counteract each other. Sometimes they lose more than they gain. It seems to be a favorite tactic. Watching C-Span's Washington Journal for the last 10 or more years, I've got a real taste of how they work. The leftists call in on the Democratic, Independent and the Republican line. The goal is to jam the lines so only their point of view gets through. If I called in on the Dem line and you listened, a real left leaning Dem would say, he isn't a Democrat, he is a Republican shill. The same thing applies when some one calls in on the Rep line and claims to be a Republican that really is not. Each side knows its own, it only takes a few words, the way a subject is addressed or an impeach Bush for the tip off. Wes |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" wrote: But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. Anti-Limbaugh or anti-opposing views? Anti-Limbaugh. One of the disturbing things about the left is that they tend to try to disrupt debate if they do not like it. You must have a different left in Michigan, Wes. Maybe it's what we call the right. d8-) Out here, the ones trying to intimidate advertisers and media owners are the "family values" and Christian Right nutbags. Now the downside of having a previous advertiser drop any politically oriented show is that for the customers they may mollify the ones they alienate will counteract each other. Sometimes they lose more than they gain. I'd have to see an example to know what you're talking about. It seems to be a favorite tactic. Watching C-Span's Washington Journal for the last 10 or more years, I've got a real taste of how they work. The leftists call in on the Democratic, Independent and the Republican line. The goal is to jam the lines so only their point of view gets through. 'Never watched it, so I don't know. If I called in on the Dem line and you listened, a real left leaning Dem would say, he isn't a Democrat, he is a Republican shill. The same thing applies when some one calls in on the Rep line and claims to be a Republican that really is not. Each side knows its own, it only takes a few words, the way a subject is addressed or an impeach Bush for the tip off. It must be hell. g -- Ed Huntress |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Ed is correct. If you want a historical lesson, spend an afternoon listening to tapes of Hitler's speeches. They sound just like Rush. TMT Hitler was just a higher level of liberal. Today's liberals believe in killing humans before they are born, Hitler believed it was also OK to kill them after birth. Hitler wanted them killed to advance evolution, the theory that liberals want to cram down kids throats. Tell kids that they are meaningless accidents with no purpose or meaning and then wonder why they bring guns to school to kill. Then turn it around and blame it on the guns, you place the blame everywhere except where it belongs. Hitler and liberals were both Godless and will both burn in the same place for eternity. I know you think I'm so upset about Obama winning the election, I didn't find McCain being very exciting but I think he was the better choice. The Bible tells me that the Godless will be winning in the end times, why should I be upset that you and the other liberals are proving the Bible to be true. I'm just along for the ride and Obama getting elected just proves that the Anti-Christ could come to power at any moment. All this "winning" you are doing has to take place for God's word to be true so why would I be upset by it. I still vote for to lesser of the 2 evils but I'm not at all surprised that the Godless are winning as it has been foretold. RogerN |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:07:40 -0500, the infamous "Ed Huntress"
scrawled the following: "Ignoramus1711" wrote in message m... Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in commercials on the Rush Limbaugh radio? i First off, national radio advertisers often don't even know what programs air their commercials. Radio time at that level is bought in packages that guarantee demographics and numbers of listeners, not particular programs. Hey, the listeners are there. Rush gots -earballs-! (40M ears/week ) He works hard for his $33 million annual pay. But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. What a twisted crock that is. Don't the ANTIs do any homework about the companies they choose to (attempt to) ruin or the way radio advertising works? Maroons! ------------------------------------------- Jack Kevorkian for Congressional physician! =========================================== |
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"Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... On 2009-01-22, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus1711" wrote in message ... Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in commercials on the Rush Limbaugh radio? i First off, national radio advertisers often don't even know what programs air their commercials. Radio time at that level is bought in packages that guarantee demographics and numbers of listeners, not particular programs. But there is an anti-Limbaugh campaign targeting some big advertisers whose commercials appear on the show, and they've listed Darden Restaurants, Red Lobster, Pfizer, and AutoZone among their targets. The reason for my question was this. I have a shed and to keep pests away, I keep a radio turned on in it that has some sort of a conservative program, but I think that it is not Rush Limbaugh. It works pretty well as, I think, pests think there are people in the shed and become uncomfortable. (or maybe pests are liberal in nature) I keep some welding gas tanks in the shed and other things. In any case, when I am in the shed, I find the commercials to be of a little peculiar nature. I do not want to offend anyone, so I will not elaborate, but I found their selection a little odd. That's why I asked about commercials on Rush Limbaugh radio. That sounds like a great Idea, liberal talk shows are more likely to be accepted by rats, rodents, and pests that the world is better off without :-) RogerN |
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