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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by “a major American print publication” to offer a 400-word statement explaining his “hope for the Obama presidency.” He responded: So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive- By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it. It hasn’t taken long for Limbaugh to reveal his core hypocrisy. In July 2006, with conservatives in power, Limbaugh offered one of his common screeds against the left. “I’m getting so sick and tired of people rooting for the defeat of the good guys,” he complained. During the Clinton presidency in the 90s, Limbaugh would begin his show with a gimmick, purporting to count the days America had been “held hostage.” In May 2007, Limbaugh recalled: Back when Clinton was inaugurated in 1993 and we began our America Held Hostage countdown, the number of days left until Clinton was gone so we’d all be released from bondage, the joke, do you remember how mad the liberals got at that? Do you remember how mad the Drive-Bys got at that? Then they started running stories how I, Rush Limbaugh, was destroying the respect for the office of the presidency that the American people had. A disastrous Bush presidency has come and gone, but some things haven’t changed a bit. |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:29:48 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan
Vordos" scrawled the following: "Buerste" wrote in message .. . At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Hah! We all know how it happened: You cooked that night. bseg Say, are you and Susan keeping your ankles dry, 'arry? I saw the pics of the most recent Centralia floods recently. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Empirin and Codeine saved my life. A friend had sold me her prescription and it was that coupled with my alcoholism which got me so sick that I couldn't go to work the next week. It triggered my acceptance of the alcoholism and I got help. Great stuff, BTW. I'm just lucky I was more of an alcoholic than a druggie. The trip on alcohol was bad enough. -- Even with the best of maps and instruments, we can never fully chart our journeys. -- Gail Pool |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:29:48 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan Vordos" scrawled the following: "Buerste" wrote in message . .. At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Hah! We all know how it happened: You cooked that night. bseg Heh! According to the Mrs., I'm a pretty good cook. Ain't true, but I hate to burst her bubble. Say, are you and Susan keeping your ankles dry, 'arry? I saw the pics of the most recent Centralia floods recently. Yep! High & dry. While the lowlands were getting flooded, it was because the two feet of snow we received (very unusual) was being melted by the relatively warm rain storm that hit the area. Mountains received up to 20" of rain, while lowlands received as much as 10". Damned fools built in the flood plane, and that's where all the new development is taking place. We're about 800' higher than the valley. When (if) we flood, the world is in trouble. Harold |
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Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:
"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'? "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Libby Loo" wrote in message ... "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'? "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold At least Rush has good taste in drugs! I had the pleasure of a recent root canal and the surgeon gave me 12 extra strength Vicodin. I can see how somebody could get hooked on these little "pharmaceutical vacations"! I still have seven left, I'm keeping them safe, I take them out every once in a while just to look at them in admiration! Strangely, Susan and I each had a tooth extracted last Friday. They were cracked, so a root canal wasn't a solution. We both think we've been married to long----how in hell both of us ended up with a cracked tooth within days of one another is one of those mysteries we'll never understand. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. Maybe, but the opposite is not necessarily true. I hope we don't wind up being reflexively critical of people who are prone to addictions. It isn't necessarily, or even predominantly, a sign of weakness. I've seen some strong people develop chemical additions to things I just brush off. I attribute it to different physiologies, not to personal strength or weakness. Limbaugh is a disgusting parasite who thrives on the lowest traits of his followers, but he's neither weak nor stupid. I doubt if personal strengths or weaknesses played any role in his addiction to painkillers. -- Ed Huntress |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message ... Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: snip---. Anyway, we were prescribed pain medication. Didn't even bother to have the prescriptions filled. I'm not keen on risking such things---although I have one hell of a strong constitution and rarely give in to such temptation. The only thing that has ever run my life is my thirst for gold, and my love for music. I'd hate to get hooked on one of those little magic vacations you spoke of. Be strong-----I have yet to meet a person that has an improved life because of drugs. Harold I agree. I threw out nearly all the vicodin after having some intense dental work done. You need to eat before taking those things, and it's hard to eat when your mouth is a stitched up wreck. By the time you can eat again. I suspect if you have a decent pain tolerance and something called will power, you don't need most of that stuff and won't get addicted to drugs/pills/whatever in the first place. Those that are weak and can't control themselves always find destructive addictions anyways. Yep! Needy people. They generally have a crutch of sorts ----smokes----beer-----drugs-----anything but facing the world cold turkey. No need to get in my face for my comments. I smoked a pipe for years, and enjoy a scotch and water as much as anyone---- (but no drugs). However, the harsh reality is many folks simply don't function without their crutch. It may even be the religion of their choosing..but they have something that acts as a detraction, or what ever you choose to call it. Not me------I just slog along and deal with things as they come up. And listen to music! :-) Harold |
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"I Hope Obama Fails"
Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold I'll second that. I happened to see a bit of Limbaugh being interviewed by Sean Hannity today. Limbaugh is nothing but a blowhard. What is amazing is how this guy is so popular. He's really a dumb**** and doesn't know what he's talking about but he comes across with extreme confidence. He's no expert on anything and is just like the man on the street giving his opinion on things he knows little about. That so many people listen to him and follow him is really astonishing. As someone else said, if you were to read what he says instead of hearing it you wouldn't give this guy the time of day. You would just write him off as a loon. He's just a great example of what kind of weird person people will chose to follow. They don't have to have anything going for them and people will still follow. Limbaugh is fat, ugly, uneducated, misinformed, and an arrogant and cocky guy. Now that I think of it, he's a perfect example of a right winger's leader. Hawke |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold I'll second that. I happened to see a bit of Limbaugh being interviewed by Sean Hannity today. Limbaugh is nothing but a blowhard. What is amazing is how this guy is so popular. He's really a dumb**** and doesn't know what he's talking about but he comes across with extreme confidence. He's no expert on anything and is just like the man on the street giving his opinion on things he knows little about. That so many people listen to him and follow him is really astonishing. As someone else said, if you were to read what he says instead of hearing it you wouldn't give this guy the time of day. You would just write him off as a loon. He's just a great example of what kind of weird person people will chose to follow. They don't have to have anything going for them and people will still follow. Limbaugh is fat, ugly, uneducated, misinformed, and an arrogant and cocky guy. Now that I think of it, he's a perfect example of a right winger's leader. Hawke It's pretty simple, Hawke. Years ago, when I lived in Utah, I made the acquaintance of a real nice guy named David Stanley. He owned a Cord automobile, which was my passion at the time. Dave was a bachelor, and lived with his aged father, who was beyond retirement age. A most charming man that had worked as a porter on the railroad in the glory days. I paid a visit to the Stanley household a few times and enjoyed some wonderful conversation with the two. I can still remember the comments made by the father, who said that if he were to live his life over again, he'd probably become a preacher. His logic was that he'd tell people what they want to hear, a sure recipe for success. It need not be true, it just has to fit the bill of the listener. Sound familiar? I have a neighbor that owns three horses, all Belgians. He named one of them Rush. I have been in his company enough to understand how convoluted the minds are of these people. He has made having a relationship (as friends) nearly impossible. If you don't agree with his philosophy, you're surely a communist-----or worse. He insists global warming isn't fact------but has yet to explain the melting icecaps and retreating glaciers. I have concluded that people that are overly political are much the same as people that are overly religious (this neighbor is both). They have no concept of fairness or equality, only the sense of always being right, with everyone that doesn't agree with them being wrong. Harold |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:27:03 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
wrote: He insists global warming isn't fact------but has yet to explain the melting icecaps and retreating glaciers. Which melting icecaps and retreating glaciers might those be? He was very likely correct. Gunner |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:26:20 -0800, the infamous Gunner
scrawled the following: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:27:03 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote: He insists global warming isn't fact------but has yet to explain the melting icecaps and retreating glaciers. Which melting icecaps and retreating glaciers might those be? He was very likely correct. Glaciers are always retreating -between- ice ages, mon. Perhaps S. Fred Singer and Dennis Avery's book, _Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years_ could shed some light on it. http://tinyurl.com/bglazc Warming is real. It's the extent and time frame which are being severely distorted by the extremists. The reality is "about 1 degree C every 100 years", not "7 degrees before the extremists die." Oh, Tucker's chapter on the CA electricity meltdown was a mindbender. I hadn't known about all the pieces before now. What a total gov't cluster**** that was/is. I'm glad to be paying 70% less here than I was as a Californicator, TYVM. ------------------------------------------- Jack Kevorkian for Congressional physician! =========================================== |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Hawke" wrote in message ... Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: 'I Hope Obama Fails'» "Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?" asks the Louisville Courier-Journal's Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, "I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, 'Well, I hope he succeeds.'" Rush Limbaugh is a moron. Who the hell cares what he thinks or wants? He should stick to the things he does best----drugs. Harold I'll second that. I happened to see a bit of Limbaugh being interviewed by Sean Hannity today. Limbaugh is nothing but a blowhard. What is amazing is how this guy is so popular. He's really a dumb**** and doesn't know what he's talking about but he comes across with extreme confidence. He's no expert on anything and is just like the man on the street giving his opinion on things he knows little about. That so many people listen to him and follow him is really astonishing. As someone else said, if you were to read what he says instead of hearing it you wouldn't give this guy the time of day. You would just write him off as a loon. He's just a great example of what kind of weird person people will chose to follow. They don't have to have anything going for them and people will still follow. Limbaugh is fat, ugly, uneducated, misinformed, and an arrogant and cocky guy. Now that I think of it, he's a perfect example of a right winger's leader. Hawke It's pretty simple, Hawke. Years ago, when I lived in Utah, I made the acquaintance of a real nice guy named David Stanley. He owned a Cord automobile, which was my passion at the time. Dave was a bachelor, and lived with his aged father, who was beyond retirement age. A most charming man that had worked as a porter on the railroad in the glory days. I paid a visit to the Stanley household a few times and enjoyed some wonderful conversation with the two. I can still remember the comments made by the father, who said that if he were to live his life over again, he'd probably become a preacher. His logic was that he'd tell people what they want to hear, a sure recipe for success. It need not be true, it just has to fit the bill of the listener. Sound familiar? I have a neighbor that owns three horses, all Belgians. He named one of them Rush. I have been in his company enough to understand how convoluted the minds are of these people. He has made having a relationship (as friends) nearly impossible. If you don't agree with his philosophy, you're surely a communist-----or worse. He insists global warming isn't fact------but has yet to explain the melting icecaps and retreating glaciers. I have concluded that people that are overly political are much the same as people that are overly religious (this neighbor is both). They have no concept of fairness or equality, only the sense of always being right, with everyone that doesn't agree with them being wrong. Harold Harold, what is your address? I'd like to send you a mirror and a copy of what you just wrote. Sure, we disagree on things, but I bet you a Franklin that if we were neighbors we would be out there helping each other in time of need, and having an ongoing friendship. This newsgroup has that effect on people. Steve |
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It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh.
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"Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve What he's known for is catering to people with attitudes like yours, Steve. He knows where your buttons are and he writes a running narrative that keeps you hopping like a monkey with a pair of electrodes in the pleasure center of his brain. If you pay attention, you'll notice that his underlying method is to supply you with a steady stream of scapegoats to blame for your troubles and failures. He taps your hatreds and grievances, and shapes them in a way that keeps satisfying your need to feel superior to some other identifiable group. It's an old technique, to which he's added some show-biz techniques that keep you coming back for more. Enjoy his show. It's all for your benefit. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Jan 21, 8:19*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message . .. "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. *Rush is known for facts and truth. *I don't expect anything else from him. Steve What he's known for is catering to people with attitudes like yours, Steve. He knows where your buttons are and he writes a running narrative that keeps you hopping like a monkey with a pair of electrodes in the pleasure center of his brain. If you pay attention, you'll notice that his underlying method is to supply you with a steady stream of scapegoats to blame for your troubles and failures. He taps your hatreds and grievances, and shapes them in a way that keeps satisfying your need to feel superior to some other identifiable group. It's an old technique, to which he's added some show-biz techniques that keep you coming back for more. Enjoy his show. It's all for your benefit. -- Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ed is correct. If you want a historical lesson, spend an afternoon listening to tapes of Hitler's speeches. They sound just like Rush. TMT |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve I think you "didn't get it", Steve. I think he's nothing but a low down slug. I'd rather slam the head of my dick in a door than listen to him yammer. I'm of the opinion that he wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and hit him in the ass. He's all about telling you things he thinks you want to hear. That may or may not have anything to do with truth. Harold |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "SteveB" wrote in message ... "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve I think you "didn't get it", Steve. I think he's nothing but a low down slug. I'd rather slam the head of my dick in a door than listen to him yammer. I'm of the opinion that he wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and hit him in the ass. He's all about telling you things he thinks you want to hear. That may or may not have anything to do with truth. Harold Yeah. Maybe Al Franken was right about him. After all, Al has such a reputation in statesmanship, oratory, lawmaking, and diplomacy, not to mention his personal affairs. I don't agree with everything Rush says, but he's a couple of light years ahead of most "knowledgeable" people. Particularly leftie socialist liberals. If you want real torture, I suggest you listen to Al Gore, or Alfred E. Obama say "Uh" 34 out of 50 words. Steve |
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On Jan 21, 7:50*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in s.net... "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. *Rush is known for facts and truth. *I don't expect anything else from him. Steve If there is ANYTHING Rush is NOT known for it is FACTS and TRUTH. Do you subscribe to a newspaper, listen to real news, watch television? Even Faux News is better than Rush. Steve, you really need to get out and see/hear the world for yourself. TMT |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... On Jan 21, 7:50 pm, "SteveB" wrote: "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in s.net... "Ignoramus26200" wrote in message news It is hard to expect anything else from Rush Limbaugh. i Hard to add anything useful to that comment. H True, true. Rush is known for facts and truth. I don't expect anything else from him. Steve If there is ANYTHING Rush is NOT known for it is FACTS and TRUTH. Do you subscribe to a newspaper, listen to real news, watch television? Even Faux News is better than Rush. Steve, you really need to get out and see/hear the world for yourself. TMT Heh! No need. He's already "educated" beyond his ability. His mind is made up and no amount of truth is going to change it. Harold |
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On Jan 20, 8:09*pm, "Libby Loo" wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT Limbaugh: ‘I Hope Obama Fails’» “Are conservative talk-show hosts eager to go on the attack, after years of defending Bush?” asks the Louisville Courier-Journal’s Larry Muhammad. The answer is clearly yes. Barack Obama has not yet taken office, and Rush Limbaugh is already rooting for his failure. On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “I disagree fervently with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’” Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by “a major American print publication” to offer a 400-word statement explaining his “hope for the Obama presidency.” He responded: So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive- By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it.. It hasn’t taken long for Limbaugh to reveal his core hypocrisy. In July 2006, with conservatives in power, Limbaugh offered one of his common screeds against the left. “I’m getting so sick and tired of people rooting for the defeat of the good guys,” he complained. During the Clinton presidency in the 90s, Limbaugh would begin his show with a gimmick, purporting to count the days America had been “held hostage.” In May 2007, Limbaugh recalled: Back when Clinton was inaugurated in 1993 and we began our America Held Hostage countdown, the number of days left until Clinton was gone so we’d all be released from bondage, the joke, do you remember how mad the liberals got at that? Do you remember how mad the Drive-Bys got at that? Then they started running stories how I, Rush Limbaugh, was destroying the respect for the office of the presidency that the American people had. A disastrous Bush presidency has come and gone, but some things haven’t changed a bit. This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. 2) (More importantly) Rush hosts an ENTERTAINMENT show. Dave |
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On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave |
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wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:20:54 GMT, the infamous "Harold and Susan
Vordos" scrawled the following: wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Indeed! Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? I'm not a religious man, but I pray to God that those words don't come back to haunt us... crossing all appendages -- Even with the best of maps and instruments, we can never fully chart our journeys. -- Gail Pool |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message .. . wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold I wish him well, too, because it's all going to affect me. I just don't think he will do particularly well, and I DO hope to be proven wrong. Steve |
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On Jan 21, 11:20*pm, "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote:
wrote in message ... snip-- It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave What he is is our new president. *Every citizen should give him a chance to prove himself---and to show respect until he has given cause for we citizens to not do so. Given the conditions of the past eight years, how in hell could he be any worse? Harold I agree. If he turns out to be failure, I will be one of the first to say it. Considering that Bush has left him with what another poster called "a live gernade", he has his work cut out for him. If you are an American, you better hope that he succeeds. Anyone who is condemning Obama now at the beginning of the term is showing their true unpatriotic colors. TMT TMT |
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On Jan 21, 4:47*pm, wrote:
On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM. 15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wan't it Bush who is/was nationalizing the banks? Sounds like a socialist to me. TMT |
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Just out of pure curiosity, what sorts of products are advertised in
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On Jan 22, 9:11*am, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jan 21, 4:47*pm, wrote: On Jan 21, 12:55*pm, Ignoramus15648 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM. 15648.invalid wrote: On 2009-01-21, wrote: This misses 2 important facts: 1) If Obama is successful, Rush thinks that means the country will be far down the path to socialism- not what I want either. Now, would it be correct to conclude that "if Obama is unsuccessful", and we experience collapse that would likely go beyond the Great Depression, would that lead you on a path that you would want? -- * *Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention * * * to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating * * * *from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by * * * * *more readers you will need to find a different means of * * * * * * * * * * * *posting on Usenet. * * * * * * * * * *http://improve-usenet.org/ It's not necessarily a binary choice. He could fail to make us all socialists without imploding the country. And I don't think he's the socailists messiah, either. Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wan't it Bush who is/was nationalizing the banks? Sounds like a socialist to me. TMT I'm not the one saying he's leading us down that path. marxist/animal rights nut/tax cheat cabinet members do concern me, though. Dave |
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On Jan 21, 1:01*pm, Stuart Wheaton wrote:
wrote: 2) (More importantly) Rush hosts an ENTERTAINMENT show. Then he ought to sing and dance and stop bloviating about something he's clueless on...like politics... Wait...Is this Rush guy actually Gunner? Strange things pass for entertainment these days... If Rush can whip true believers and critics alike into a frenzy, he's successful, in that he will get more listeners and earn more. Like in the early days of howard stern- 1/2 his loyal listeners hated his guts. Dave |
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Libby Loo wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT I'm no Rush fan at all. But I don't see this as any different from the glee that the Democrats so obviously enjoyed every time the Bush administration had a setback, real or perceived. I found it disgusting and un-American to wish the country ill just to bring embarrassment on our president. Personally, I think Obama is a good person, and I hope he is a good president. I hope his administration doesn't ruin our country beyond repair. But I'll be surprised if it turns out well. |
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On Jan 23, 3:09*pm, RB wrote:
Libby Loo wrote: "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message .... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT I'm no Rush fan at all. But I don't see this as any different from the glee that the Democrats so obviously enjoyed every time the Bush administration had a setback, real or perceived. I found it disgusting and un-American to wish the country ill just to bring embarrassment on our president. * * Personally, I think Obama is a good person, and I hope he is a good president. I hope his administration doesn't ruin our country beyond repair. But I'll be surprised if it turns out well. This Independent registered voter did not enjoy in the least the stupidity that characterized the Bush Adminstration. If you hadn't noticed, Bush with Rush's blessings ran this Country into the ground, cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. You know what I think of them. I have enormous respect for the Office of the President. My respect for the holder of that Office is EARNED...and not freely given. Bush was an embrassment to the Office whose behavior has damaged its creditibility. So far Obama seems to be doing the right things...and I am impressed ...so far. Time and RESULTS will tell if he can salvage the Office, the economy and the Country. Anyone ...Rush or otherwise...who wishes him to fail is unpatriotic and in my opinion a domestic terrorist. They part of the problem and not part of the solution. TMT |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:f17647a6-46b7-4903-b227-. ... On Jan 23, 3:09 pm, RB wrote: Libby Loo wrote: "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT I'm no Rush fan at all. But I don't see this as any different from the glee that the Democrats so obviously enjoyed every time the Bush administration had a setback, real or perceived. I found it disgusting and un-American to wish the country ill just to bring embarrassment on our president. Personally, I think Obama is a good person, and I hope he is a good president. I hope his administration doesn't ruin our country beyond repair. But I'll be surprised if it turns out well. This Independent registered voter did not enjoy in the least the stupidity that characterized the Bush Adminstration. If you hadn't noticed, Bush with Rush's blessings ran this Country into the ground, cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. You know what I think of them. I have enormous respect for the Office of the President. My respect for the holder of that Office is EARNED...and not freely given. Bush was an embrassment to the Office whose behavior has damaged its creditibility. So far Obama seems to be doing the right things...and I am impressed ...so far. Time and RESULTS will tell if he can salvage the Office, the economy and the Country. Anyone ...Rush or otherwise...who wishes him to fail is unpatriotic and in my opinion a domestic terrorist. They part of the problem and not part of the solution. TMT Let's see, yesterday Obama is saying that we need to lower the number of abortions, today he is allowing tax dollars to be used to fund abortions. Yep, typical Godless piece of **** O*******. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/...rss_topstories And after years of you liberals talking about Bush's war on terror killing the innocent, as if those aborted are guilty of something, your ******* in chief orders strikes on villiages himself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ama-air-strike What a great president you Benedict Arnold types gave us! Already a lying piece of **** doing the very things you condemned Bush for. Like I said all along, it's a change for the worse. RogerN |
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On Jan 23, 10:38*pm, "RogerN" wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:f17647a6-46b7-4903-b227-. ... On Jan 23, 3:09 pm, RB wrote: Libby Loo wrote: "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... Why would someone want America to fail? Hmm...sounds like a domestic terrorist to me. TMT I'm no Rush fan at all. But I don't see this as any different from the glee that the Democrats so obviously enjoyed every time the Bush administration had a setback, real or perceived. I found it disgusting and un-American to wish the country ill just to bring embarrassment on our president. Personally, I think Obama is a good person, and I hope he is a good president. I hope his administration doesn't ruin our country beyond repair. But I'll be surprised if it turns out well. This Independent registered voter did not enjoy in the least the stupidity that characterized the Bush Adminstration. If you hadn't noticed, Bush with Rush's blessings ran this Country into the ground, cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. You know what I think of them. I have enormous respect for the Office of the President. My respect for the holder of that Office is EARNED...and not freely given. Bush was an embrassment to the Office whose behavior has damaged its creditibility. So far Obama seems to be doing the right things...and I am impressed ...so far. Time and RESULTS will tell if he can salvage the Office, the economy and the Country. Anyone ...Rush or otherwise...who wishes him to fail is unpatriotic and in my opinion a domestic terrorist. They part of the problem and not part of the solution. TMT Let's see, yesterday Obama is saying that we need to lower the number of abortions, today he is allowing tax dollars to be used to fund abortions. Yep, typical Godless piece of **** O*******. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/...ndex.html?eref... And after years of you liberals talking about Bush's war on terror killing the innocent, as if those aborted are guilty of something, your ******* in chief orders strikes on villiages himself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...rack-obama-air... What a great president you Benedict Arnold types gave us! *Already a lying piece of **** doing the very things you condemned Bush for. *Like I said all along, it's a change for the worse. RogerN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well Roger if you want to prevent abortions just make sure those religious Republican women keep their legs together. Talking about conservative sexual practices...look who is back in the news... Surprise...surprise!! Disgraced pastor faces more gay sex accusations By ERIC GORSKI, AP Religion Writer Eric Gorski, Ap Religion Writer 2 hrs 21 mins ago DENVER – Disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard's former church disclosed Friday that the gay sex scandal that caused his downfall extends to a young male church volunteer who reported having a sexual relationship with Haggard — a revelation that comes as Haggard tries to repair his public image. Brady Boyd, who succeeded Haggard as senior pastor of the 10,000- member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, told The Associated Press that the man came forward to church officials in late 2006 shortly after a Denver male prostitute claimed to have had a three-year cash- for-sex relationship with Haggard. Boyd said an "overwhelming pool of evidence" pointed to an "inappropriate, consensual sexual relationship" that "went on for a long period of time ... it wasn't a one-time act." Boyd said the man was in his early 20s at the time. He said he was certain the man was of legal age when it began. Reached Friday night, Haggard declined to comment and said all interviews would have to be arranged through a publicist for HBO, which is airing a documentary about him this month. Boyd said the church reached a legal settlement to pay the man for counseling and college tuition, with one condition being that none of the parties involved discuss the matter publicly. Boyd said a Colorado Springs TV station reached him Thursday to say the young man was planning to provide a detailed report of his relationship with Haggard to the station. Boyd said the church preferred to keep the matter private, but it was the man's decision to go public. The disclosure comes as Haggard, 52, is about to give a series of high- profile interviews to promote the cable documentary about his time in exile. He is scheduled to appear on CNN's Larry King Live on Thursday, the date of the documentary's premiere, and already has taped "The Oprah Winfrey Show." In early 2007, New Life Church disclosed that an investigation uncovered new evidence that Haggard engaged in "sordid conversation" and "improper relationships" — but didn't go into detail. Earlier, a church board member had said there was no evidence that Haggard had sexual relations with anyone but Mike Jones, the former male prostitute. Haggard confessed to undisclosed "sexual immorality" after Jones' allegations and resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and from New Life Church, where he faced being fired. Anticipating criticism of the settlement with the former church volunteer, Boyd said Friday that it was in the best interests of all involved. He would not name the volunteer or the settlement amount. "It wasn't at all a settlement to make him be quiet or not tell his story," Boyd said. "Our desire was to help him. Here was a young man who wanted to get on with his life. We considered it more compassionate assistance — certainly not hush money. I know what's what everyone will want to say because that's the most salacious thing to say, but that's not at all what it was." He said that "secondarily, it's not great for our church either" that the story be told. Boyd said Haggard knew about the settlement two years ago. In a letter e-mailed Friday to New Life Church members, Boyd said of the settlement and agreement not to talk: "This decision was made not as an attempt to conceal wrongdoings, but to protect him from those who would seek to exploit him. His actions now suggest that he has changed his mind." The letter said the church "received reports of a number of incidents of inappropriate behavior" after Haggard's fall. "In each case, we have tried our very best to do the right thing each time, including disciplinary action when appropriate." Boyd said the "inappropriate behavior" referred to the man who was the volunteer involved with Haggard. After Haggard's fall, another church staff member resigned after admitting to what was described as "sexual misconduct." Boyd said the church will not take action against the man if he tells his story in the press. "We have legal standing to do that, but not the desire to," he said. Boyd said he had spoken to the man once and came away with the impression that he was speaking out because of the documentary. "I think what caused this young man to be a bit aggravated was Ted being seen as a victim, when he himself had experienced a great deal of hurt," Boyd said. "I seriously doubt this man would have come forward if the documentary had not been made." A spokeswoman for the documentary, "The Trials of Ted Haggard," declined to comment Friday. David Clohessy, national director of SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests — which has largely focused on the Catholic sexual abuse scandal but also speaks out on cases involving Protestant clergy — said the new disclosures about Haggard are more disturbing because they involves a church volunteer. "Technically, legally, they were both adults," Clohessy said. "Psychologically and emotionally, Haggard was dramatically more powerful. ... By definition, any sexual contact between a congregant and minister is inherently abusive and manipulative." In an AP interview this month before an appearance in front of TV critics in California, Haggard described his sexuality as complex and something that can't be put into "stereotypical boxes." |
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On Jan 24, 3:38 pm, "RogerN" wrote:
Let's see, yesterday Obama is saying that we need to lower the number of abortions, today he is allowing tax dollars to be used to fund abortions. Yep, typical Godless piece of **** O*******. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/...ndex.html?eref... Hey, get it right Roger. He said during his election campaign that he would abolish the gov. policy of not giving funding to ANY group/ organisation that told woman that abortion was a birth control option. So they couldn't tell women about ANY form of contraception as they were denied ANY funding. And if there is effective birth control, obviously there would be less abortions,mm? (its a difficult concept, but give it a try) And after years of you liberals talking about Bush's war on terror killing the innocent, as if those aborted are guilty of something, your ******* in chief orders strikes on villiages himself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...rack-obama-air... Its called a Democracy - the people chose him to be your leader. You DO believe in Democracy, don't you? - or is it a convenient fiction while your party of choice is in power? - perhaps they were judged by their deeds rather than their words, the people decided they wanted a chance of something different. What a great president you Benedict Arnold types gave us! seems like a majority of the voters fit this category, a lot of Benedict Arnolds - your right, their wrong - again, Roger, remember, its a Democracy......the majority chooses. Already a lying piece of **** doing the very things you condemned Bush for. Like I said all along, it's a change for the worse. In your mind at least - but to do some research, find the facts, do some basic research about your own country, its history and its politics - its part of the responsibility of being a citizen in a Democracy ...then make a reasoned, rational decision - your President is asking you to do that. Give up the crappy ideas, the discredited mantras, the loony tunes policies that got you into the mess your in, try something new. Are you up to it? I am on the other side of the world - how come I know more about Obamas stated policies than you do? - are you a responsible voter? - I know you are NOT representative of the majority, perhaps an influential minority bent on spoiling - hope you fail miserably, for the sake of your own country, and the rest of the world. RogerN Andrew VK3BFA. |
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