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If you didn't already buy them, I expect they're gone. If he still has
them, grab 'em. Steve Ignoramus25521 wrote: A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i |
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Where are you located?
"Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i -- |
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Ignoramus25521 wrote:
... how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. Get a rigger to do it. By the time you rent a truck or trailer and maybe some lifting equipment, screw around trying to figure it out, risk damaging the mill and/or your body, and spend most of a day, it just isn't worth it. Especially with the deal you're getting. Just pay for someone to do it. And you'll get the lathe moved along with it for practically nothing extra. Just my $.02, Bob |
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Ignoramus25521 wrote in news:d3ub73
: A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i For $850, I hope you jerked his arm off handing him the money. As for getting it home, few possibilities: a) liftgate truck, b) U-haul low trailer. In any regard you will need some machinery rollers, should be able to rent those at the nearest equipment rental place for cheap. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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Ignoramus25521 wrote in
: Bob, how much would they cost? Do they go in yellow pages as "riggers" or "rigging services"? I will make some calls tomorrow. Yellow pages under Millwright/rigging services. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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how far are you from Rock Island? been looking for a mill
"Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... I am in N Illinois. i On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:37:02 -0400, Eide wrote: Where are you located? "Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i -- |
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If by any chance the machine has a lifting eye, and you are not going
far, a good solution is an auto wrecker, just haul it on the hook. This is especially attractive for top heavy machines, which might tip with many of the alternatives. Richard Ignoramus25521 wrote: A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i |
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What part of northern Illinois are you in? I know of a good rigger in the
Tri-cities area (a little north of Aurora) that moved a Clausing 5914 lathe for me at a pretty reasonable price. Reply here or in email if you want contact info. The move ran me $200 for a 1,000-lb lathe and a 13-mile one way trip. I was willing to wait until they had a load coming my way, which kept the price down. BTW, $850 is a steal for either machine, let alone both, assuming that they are in reasonable condition. The 8530s are much harder to find than the 8520. The 8530 probably weighs around 700 lbs but can be disassembled into 3 or 4 pieces that are fairly easy to move with a van. Which model of lathe is it? A van is probably out of the question for the lathe but a pick up truck might be able to handle it.. Clausing still sells manuals and spare parts in case you need either. Mike "Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:34:35 -0400, Bob Engelhardt wrote: Ignoramus25521 wrote: ... how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. Get a rigger to do it. By the time you rent a truck or trailer and maybe some lifting equipment, screw around trying to figure it out, risk damaging the mill and/or your body, and spend most of a day, it just isn't worth it. Especially with the deal you're getting. Just pay for someone to do it. And you'll get the lathe moved along with it for practically nothing extra. Bob, how much would they cost? Do they go in yellow pages as "riggers" or "rigging services"? I will make some calls tomorrow. i |
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Ignoramus25521 writes:
Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. This is my tale of moving a Clausing 8540 (horizontal mill): http://www.truetex.com/moveclausing.htm These things are very top-heavy, so it's best to lift them from above, not below! |
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![]() Ignoramus25521 wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:02:04 GMT, Anthony wrote: I like the idea of a machinery roller. All in all, if I can find someone to do if for me for say $100-150, I will hire them. If not, I will mess around with liftgates. I suggest involving a friend. It is way easier to avoid doing something stupid when you have two heads. Steve |
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A wrecker is what I hired to get a 6' tall air hammer out of my pickup.
He had a hydraulically extending boom with plenty of reach. Steve Ignoramus25521 wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:55:56 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote: If by any chance the machine has a lifting eye, and you are not going far, a good solution is an auto wrecker, just haul it on the hook. This is especially attractive for top heavy machines, which might tip with many of the alternatives. Yes, it is a top heavy mill. I will give it a though, although I am afraid that those wreckers cannot raise their hook high enough. i Richard Ignoramus25521 wrote: A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i |
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On 17 Apr 2005 21:54:41 GMT, the inscrutable Ignoramus25521
spake: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:34:35 -0400, Bob Engelhardt wrote: Ignoramus25521 wrote: ... how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. Get a rigger to do it. By the time you rent a truck or trailer and maybe some lifting equipment, screw around trying to figure it out, risk damaging the mill and/or your body, and spend most of a day, it just isn't worth it. Especially with the deal you're getting. Just pay for someone to do it. And you'll get the lathe moved along with it for practically nothing extra. Bob, how much would they cost? Do they go in yellow pages as "riggers" or "rigging services"? I will make some calls tomorrow. Good question. I looked it up in the DEX Jello Pages and the Yellow Book. It was under heading of "Machinery Moving and Erecting" in both. ------------------------------------------------------- "i" before "e", except after "c", what a weird society. ---- http://diversify.com Dynamic Website Applications |
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:50:57 -0400, Steve Smith
wrote: Ignoramus25521 wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:02:04 GMT, Anthony wrote: I like the idea of a machinery roller. All in all, if I can find someone to do if for me for say $100-150, I will hire them. If not, I will mess around with liftgates. I suggest involving a friend. It is way easier to avoid doing something stupid when you have two heads. Steve And remember..Time is on your side. Stop. Think. Think Again. Move slowly. If you rush...you will break something, or get hurt. Rushing and not thinking is dangerous. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke |
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Along those same lines... take some lumber along for bridging. If you
have to move the mill on the hook very far, bridge the legs with the lumber and lower the mill on to the lumber. Move it close to your destination and raise it up again. Don't try to save time by moving the mill on the hook. Cheers, Kelley On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:00:38 GMT, Gunner wrote: And remember..Time is on your side. Stop. Think. Think Again. Move slowly. If you rush...you will break something, or get hurt. Rushing and not thinking is dangerous. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke |
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Kelley Mascher writes:
Along those same lines... take some lumber along for bridging. If you have to move the mill on the hook very far, bridge the legs with the lumber and lower the mill on to the lumber. May I suggest using 10' lengths of SuperStrut clamped on in that fashion, if you have the room to manuever. That way you also have "outriggers" that protect against tipping your improvised platform truck. Available at Home Depot or Lowes. |
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need to know what kind of collets the machine is using. also what power does
it need for the motor? and does the machine come with anything else. my brother and I are in serious cosideration on the machine. please email me "Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:05:35 GMT, jay s wrote: how far are you from Rock Island? been looking for a mill Just a thought, you and I could save some costs by you coming with me, at some point, and picking the mill up from that guy. You would pay me a price that is lower than going ebay prices. i "Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... I am in N Illinois. i On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:37:02 -0400, Eide wrote: Where are you located? "Ignoramus25521" wrote in message ... A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. I would like to know how much it weighs. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. i i -- |
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Ignoramus25521 wrote:
A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. Fair? That's a fantastic deal. Grab it, ... fast! I have the 8520. Paid $1,600.00 for it, and that was a good deal as far as i was concerned. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. It is not heavy at all. I would like to know how much it weighs. A few hundred pounds. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Do you even know how lucky you are? Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. No, not difficult at all. The mill comes apart very easily in about 6 to 7 parts. It can then easily be transported in the back of a pick up. And reassembled in the new shop. Good luck. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Ignoramus25521 wrote:
A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. Fair? That's a fantastic deal. Grab it, ... fast! I have the 8520. Paid $1,600.00 for it, and that was a good deal as far as i was concerned. The mill is about 6" tall and very heavy. It is not heavy at all. I would like to know how much it weighs. A few hundred pounds. The lathe is small, about 2' between centers, but has power feed (so does the mill). Everything seems to work and there is no excessive wear and no play. Do you even know how lucky you are? Also, I am not sure how to transport this stuff, the lathe is easy, but the mill is going to be difficult. No, not difficult at all. The mill comes apart very easily in about 6 to 7 parts. It can then easily be transported in the back of a pick up. And reassembled in the new shop. Good luck. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com PS: It would be nice if you would not use a bogus email address, so people can respond to you in private. |
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jay s wrote:
need to know what kind of collets the machine is using. Morse 2 also what power does it need for the motor? Mine came with a single phase 120 V motor. I replaced it with a 3 phase motor Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Abrasha writes:
Fair? That's a fantastic deal. Grab it, ... fast! Perhaps, but only if the wear is light to moderate. From the photos it looks like the wear might be heavy, which can put a machine into the grades of "good for rough work only" or worse. |
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![]() Ignoramus14555 writes: On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:01:21 -0700, Abrasha wrote: Ignoramus25521 wrote: A guy is offering his Clausing mdl 008530 s/n 009852 mill, and a clausing lathe for sale for $850. I am wondering if it is a fair price. I will probably sell the mill and keep the lathe. It is a garage sale type of deal. Fair? That's a fantastic deal. Grab it, ... fast! I have the 8520. Paid $1,600.00 for it, and that was a good deal as far as i was concerned. I saw on your webpage that you were thinking of selling the mill eventually- don't do it if you can possibly avoid it. You'll not find its equal for the price you paid- that thing looks as near to factory condition as you can get short of it being stored in cosmoline from day 1. They say those little Clausings aren't the most rigid around, but they are nice- and certainly lots nicer than the modern Grizzly equivalents. You could probably trade it even-steven for a decent Bridgeport if you want something bigger. Gregm |
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Ignoramus14555 wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:04:29 -0700, Abrasha wrote: jay s wrote: need to know what kind of collets the machine is using. Morse 2 also what power does it need for the motor? Mine came with a single phase 120 V motor. I replaced it with a 3 phase motor this is your mill, right? http://www.abrasha.com/studio.htm Yep. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On 21 Apr 2005 03:01:55 GMT, the inscrutable Ignoramus14555
spake: On 20 Apr 2005 18:48:23 -0400, Greg Menke wrote: I saw on your webpage that you were thinking of selling the mill eventually- don't do it if you can possibly avoid it. You'll not find its equal for the price you paid- that thing looks as near to factory condition as you can get short of it being stored in cosmoline from day 1. They say those little Clausings aren't the most rigid around, but they are nice- and certainly lots nicer than the modern Grizzly equivalents. You could probably trade it even-steven for a decent Bridgeport if you want something bigger. Thanks. I do not have enough space for it. What I wanted, mostly, is to have a lathe. The lathe I bought, is perfect for me wrt size and portability. I will drag it into the basement. I partly want one for sentimental reasons. perhaps, "around the house", the mill is actually more valuable. Right. "Around the house" means "in the master bedroom", eh? bseg "Aw, c'mon, honey. You have your makeup table and I have my mill. That's fair, isn't it?" ================================================== ======= What doesn't kill you + http://diversify.com ....makes you hurt more. + Web application programming ================================================== ======= |
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