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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
 
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Default Making a very hot cup of coffee

I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to 190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


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effi
 
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contact the manufacturer


"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please
pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted
them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker
with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered
cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside
the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to
190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe
warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand
function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:


NOTE: My web home page:
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Might I suggest alt.coffee? There you will learn more than you want to know
about coffee. After reading the stuff there I went out and built myself a
coffee roaster so now I have fresh coffee to drink.

You can also buy an electric kettle. These will boil water faster than a
microwave and that will give you 212 degree water.

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.



"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please

pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted

them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker

with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered

cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside

the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to

190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe

warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand

function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:



NOTE: My web home page:
www.seldin.net


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m Ransley
 
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I think you should return it , its broke.

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"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please
pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted
them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker
with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered
cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside
the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to
190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe
warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand
function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:


NOTE: My web home page:
www.seldin.net



Read the instruction booklet that came with the coffe maker. You are
supposed
to plug the coffeemaker in first and also you don't pour the water directly
through
the filter. There should be a holding tank that you fill up. Hope that
helps.

Mike




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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
 
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Larry wrote:

I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted
them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.



"effi" wrote:

contact the manufacturer


Effi,

When I wrote that I emailed the Vendor and phoned them, I was referring to the Manufacturer. On the
phone calls, after about waiting 10 minutes, they produce a message, saying that the phone lines are
busy and call another day. Been doing that for a week.




Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:

NOTE: My web home page:
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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
 
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"Roger Shoaf" wrote:

Might I suggest alt.coffee?


Roger,

Before I posted to this newsgroup, I searched for a "coffee" newsgroup. I did not find one. I re-did
my search after your suggestion. I guess my ISP does not have this newsgroup.

You can also buy an electric kettle. These will boil water faster than a
microwave and that will give you 212 degree water.


I previously bought a Perculator. For me, what a pain to clean. The electric is built into the
canaster, so you have to be very careful washing it. Real pain.

I did recently learn, that you can get a Perculator that does not use an electric cord and can
go on a range.

However, I really just wanted the answer to "how hot" my water can be to warm the "carafe" and also
how hot, my water can be.

Thanks for your input.


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:

NOTE: My web home page:
www.seldin.net
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Last time we met, Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC had said:
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


Get a french press. They make much better coffee anyway and you can
control the temperature.


dv
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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
 
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"Mike Lewis" wrote:

Read the instruction booklet that came with the coffe maker. You are
supposed to plug the coffeemaker in first and also you don't pour the water directly
through the filter. There should be a holding tank that you fill up. Hope that
helps.


Mike,

I read the instruction booklet 4 times and also went on to the Manufacturer website. No answer to my
question.

When I was referring to filtered water. I have filtered cold water coming from my refrigorator. I
like to use this water, than straight from the sink. The filtered water, I poured into the Coffee
Maker itself. The holding tank, is where I placed the refrigorator filtered water into.

I do not have a filter for hot water....However, the Coffee Maker, does say it "filters water".

thanks for your input.
Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:

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"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...
Might I suggest alt.coffee? There you will learn more than you want to
know
about coffee. After reading the stuff there I went out and built myself a
coffee roaster so now I have fresh coffee to drink.

You can also buy an electric kettle. These will boil water faster than a
microwave and that will give you 212 degree water.

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube,
then
they come up with this striped stuff.


alt.food.coffee

you can read other groups not carried by your isp at
http://groups.google.com


"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please

pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted

them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker

with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed
"filtered

cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside

the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to

190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the
carafe

warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand

function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:



NOTE: My web home page:
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Do you mean a freedom press?

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Drew V wrote:
Last time we met, Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC had said:

I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.



Get a french press. They make much better coffee anyway and you can
control the temperature.


dv



I have a french coffee press that I bought at a rummage sale. I have a
1500W electric kettle that I recently bought at Wal-mart for $30. (I
wish I had a 3000W British electric kettle, but they are hard to come by
in North America, and I'd have to run a new circuit for it.) Anyway,
the electric kettle and french press combination makes a litre of
scalding hot coffee very quickly.

Best regards,
Bob
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"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:

I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted
them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.



"effi" wrote:

contact the manufacturer


Effi,

When I wrote that I emailed the Vendor and phoned them, I was referring to
the Manufacturer. On the
phone calls, after about waiting 10 minutes, they produce a message,
saying that the phone lines are
busy and call another day. Been doing that for a week.



leandro rizzuto is the sole owner of cuisinart and conair

send him a letter, certified mail, return receipt requested, spelling out
your dilemma, to:

Mr. Leandro Rizzuto, President
Conair Corporation
1 Cummings Point Road
Stamford, CT 06902

or try calling him at (203) 351-9000 (cuisinart's phone number)

either he stands behind his products or he doesn't











Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


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NOTE: My web home page:
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Please tell me the CMC does not stand for Command Master Chief.

If the Navy has started making CMC's out of people that can't make
coffee..... well, it's changed since the days I was there.
(If I didn't hate smiley faces so much I would put one here)

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"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered
cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside
the coffe maker.


No, usually makes things worse. Hot water will not set off the sensors in
some units.


How cold is the cold coffee? If it is not heating properly, it may be a
defective unit. Take a temperature reading to see what you really have.
Most coffee brewers say something in the 180 range is the "best"
temperature, but it will drop more in the carafe. If you fall far below,
take it back. If it is still not as hot as you like, perhaps no drip brewer
will do the job for your preferences.




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"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
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"Roger Shoaf" wrote:

Might I suggest alt.coffee?


Roger,

Before I posted to this newsgroup, I searched for a "coffee" newsgroup. I

did not find one. I re-did
my search after your suggestion. I guess my ISP does not have this

newsgroup.

OK so you want some coffee education try http://sweetmarias.com/ .





You can also buy an electric kettle. These will boil water faster than a
microwave and that will give you 212 degree water.


I previously bought a Perculator. For me, what a pain to clean. The

electric is built into the
canaster, so you have to be very careful washing it. Real pain.

I did recently learn, that you can get a Perculator that does not use an

electric cord and can
go on a range.


Perculated coffee is probably the worst way to make coffee.


However, I really just wanted the answer to "how hot" my water can be to

warm the "carafe" and also
how hot, my water can be.

Thanks for your input.


Plain water can only be heated to 212F at sea level. Your instant tap
probably can't be adjusted that high to prevent overpressure. an ordinary
tea kettle can be used on the stove top to heat the water to boiling to
preheat your carafe.

The temperature of the coffee coming out of your brewer is probably going
top be less than 190 degrees. If you really like to drink liquids that
scald your mouth, why not just take the cup of coffee you pour from your
carafe and give it a zap in the microwave?

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.


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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC wrote:
Might I suggest alt.coffee?


Before I posted to this newsgroup, I searched for a "coffee" newsgroup. I did
not find one. I re-did my search after your suggestion. I guess my ISP does
not have this newsgroup.




Even my crappy news server had 22 different coffee groups listed.




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Mortimer Schnerd, RN





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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"


Even my crappy news server had 22 different coffee groups listed.


I hate it when people post things like that. Now you got me curious and I
had to check to see what my server carries. We have 17 groups with coffee
in the name.


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"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote:

"Roger Shoaf" wrote:

Might I suggest alt.coffee?


Roger,

Before I posted to this newsgroup, I searched for a "coffee" newsgroup. I did not find one. I re-did
my search after your suggestion. I guess my ISP does not have this newsgroup.


-snip-

While you are waiting for them to fulfill your request you can catch
up on it through
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.coffee

Jim
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Hopefully, you've not been discouraged by all the non-answers to your
question and you're still here. Assuming that to be true, I can make
a couple of broad generalizations.

First, feel free to 'warm up' your carafe with anything you want.
190F should be fine. That should help.

Secondly, with most coffeemakers (I'm assuming that this holds true
for yours), the physics of pumping the water from the reservoir to
the coffee relies on heat. Typically, the water is heated in a small
chamber (for lack of a better word) until it reaches a sufficient
temperature that forces it up a tube/pipe and into the coffee filter.
This is similar to the process that causes the water in a percolator
to rise. In your drip maker, cold water enters the chamber as hot
water is forced out. This continues until the reservoir is empty, at
which point, it shuts off. If you fill the reservoir with hot water,
it's likely that the process will occur faster, but the resulting
temperature will be the same, since you wouldn't be changing the
physics involved.

Given that the process appears to be working, perhaps it's a matter
of personal preference. Maybe you just like your coffee hotter than
other people do. I would, nevertheless, persue this with the
manufacturer, though. There's likely some information that defies
generalizations like these.

In article ,
says...
I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to 190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:


NOTE: My web home page:
www.seldin.net


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-Mike


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I have the same pot, mine makes a great cup of coffee with the freshly
ground beans.

You can pour 212F boiling water into the carafe to preheat it, that works
great... so your 190F water should be just fine too. Make sure you give the
hot water a minute or two to really heat up that carafe before you pour it
out.

I would not use hot water to brew the coffee, I would use nothing but cold
in the tank..the secret with this machine is to really preheat that carafe..

--

Mikey S.
http://www.mike721.com


"Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC" wrote in message
...

I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker
with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered
cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside
the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to
190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe
warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand
function.

Thanks much,



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On 1/14/2005 9:20 AM US(ET), Mike Hartigan took fingers to keys, and
typed the following:

Hopefully, you've not been discouraged by all the non-answers to your
question and you're still here. Assuming that to be true, I can make
a couple of broad generalizations.

First, feel free to 'warm up' your carafe with anything you want.
190F should be fine. That should help.

Secondly, with most coffeemakers (I'm assuming that this holds true
for yours), the physics of pumping the water from the reservoir to
the coffee relies on heat. Typically, the water is heated in a small
chamber (for lack of a better word) until it reaches a sufficient
temperature that forces it up a tube/pipe and into the coffee filter.
This is similar to the process that causes the water in a percolator
to rise. In your drip maker, cold water enters the chamber as hot
water is forced out. This continues until the reservoir is empty, at
which point, it shuts off. If you fill the reservoir with hot water,
it's likely that the process will occur faster, but the resulting
temperature will be the same, since you wouldn't be changing the
physics involved.



I would not fill the reservoir with hot water unless it was designed to
be able to handle hot water, which would be stated in the user
documentation.
If the reservoir parts are plastic (as most are) and are not heat
resistant, then the container, or any valves, gaskets, tubing, or other
parts between the reservoir and heater element could prematurely warp,
loosen, or fail.

Given that the process appears to be working, perhaps it's a matter
of personal preference. Maybe you just like your coffee hotter than
other people do. I would, nevertheless, persue this with the
manufacturer, though. There's likely some information that defies
generalizations like these.

In article ,
says...


I am trying to have 2 questions answered before I need the repair. Please pardon, my question, if
you feel it is off topic. I have wrote emails to the Vendor and contacted them by phone for a week,
No return phone call or email.


I just purchased an expensive Cuisinart Grind & Brew Automatic CoffeMaker with Thermal Carafe, model
DGB-600.

I love very, "HOT" coffee. The directions included say the following:

"Prewarm carafe with hot water to help keep the coffee hotter".

I tried that with normal hot water from the sink and then placed "filtered cold water in the coffee
pot. The coffe came out cold. So I know, I need to place hot water inside the coffe maker.

So my question is this. I have a Hot Water Dispenser in the house, set to 190 degrees. Can I use
this temperature "hot water" directly inside the carafe to keep the carafe warm.

Also, can I use the 190 degree hot water to actually make the coffee.

I will be making coffee by using it's "grind the beans" on demand function.

Thanks much,


Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
Author of POWER TIPS FOR THE APPLE NEWTON and INTRODUCTION TO CSP
Author of RECRUITSOURCE PEOPLESOFT EXAM and RECRUITSOURCE SAP/R3 EXAM


NOTE: To send me an email, remove TAKEOUT from my email address:

NOTE: My web home page:
www.seldin.net








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Bill
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Lawrence M. Seldin, CMC, CPC
 
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Mike Hartigan wrote:

Hopefully, you've not been discouraged by all the non-answers to your
question and you're still here. Assuming that to be true, I can make
a couple of broad generalizations.

First, feel free to 'warm up' your carafe with anything you want.
190F should be fine. That should help.


If you fill the reservoir with hot water,
it's likely that the process will occur faster, but the resulting
temperature will be the same, since you wouldn't be changing the
physics involved.



Mike,

One thing that continues to amaze me about newsgroups, is that if I ask a question, I am obviously,
looking for an answer, However, the concept that I have, is "if you don't know the answer" then
you don't "need to reply", otherwise, any helpful information is very appreciated. In addition,
some readers (I don't think, look at the entire message", because for myself, being an avid
newsgroup reader, I have learned to put in as much "info on what I have done" before asking the
newsgroup questions.

In addition, for some reason, there are sometimes a few people, who respond in a nasty way. I don't
know why.

Anyway, your info, and that of the other very nice people on this group, got me thinking.

So here is what I did. I created an experiment. I have bought coffee beans to grind and make coffee.
However, since I was just looking for ways to make the temperature to be as hot as possible, I
created a test.

Using only water, here are the tests that validated your response.

1st Experiment:

I put cold water into the Coffee Resovoir and just ran the Coffee maker without coffee. Water
tasted cold.


2nd Experiment:

I then put cold water into the Coffee Resovoir and rinsed out Caraffe with 190 degree hot water.
Water tasted passibly hot.

3rd Experiment:

I put cold water into the Coffee Resovoir and just ran the Coffee maker without coffee. I put 190
degree water into Caraffe and let stand for 3 minutes. Water tasted somewhat hotter.


4th Experiement:

I then put hot water from faucet into Coffee Resovoir and just ran the Coffee maker without coffee.
I put 190 degree water into Caraffe and let stand for 3 minutes. Water tasted somewhat hotter.

Note: on th Experiment with placing hot water into Coffee Resovoir, Coffe maker, finished cycle
much quicker, like you stated.

5th Experiment:

I put cold water into the Coffee Resovoir and just ran the Coffee maker without coffee. I put 190
degree water into Caraffe and let stand for 20 minutes. Water tasted a little colder.

So in conclusion, I will use Cold water to put in Coffee Resovoir and use 190 degree water into
Carafe and let stand a few minutes.

I would like to thank all of the people who responsed with feedback.

Much appreciated.




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I dont know why you are playing with your coffee maker, it obviously is
broke-not heating the water. Kinda obvious, yes.

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