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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:41:24 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/18/2021 9:03 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:12:21 -0500, micky wrote: I don't see any point to clearing a 4-foot wide path when I only need 8 inches. The city requires the sidewalk to be CLEARED within 24 hours of snowfall 4 car deiveway of 8 inches of snow with that thing!!!. The YT624 does Or a 4-car driveway. When I had a driveway, I only cleared a path for the tires. You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow freezes you tear your muffler off? You use your bumper as a plough to push the snow from behind or infront of the car???? The plogh can leace 2 pile 2 feet deepand 2 or 3 feet wide across the end of the driveway. You MIGHT get out once - You MIGHT get in once, but I can almost guarantee you well be spending money on exhaust repairs. Nah, not a problem. Micky is in Baltimore and I grew up in Philly, about 90 miles north of it. A four inch snowfall does not need knee high boots or tear out your muffler. Where I lived in Philly only the main streets were plowed. Every few years you got a 12" storm. The average annual snowfall is only 13" spread out over the winter. And if 13 inches lasted more than a week it was a heavy winter. The stuff comes down so wet it sticks to both sifes of traffic signs. I know, I've seen a "King of Prussia" snow storm - Slick as snot for 8 hours, and gone. |
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 00:03:15 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:03:20 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:12:21 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:11:30 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:32:39 -0500, micky wrote: BTW. after all these years, I have a new improved way of shoveling the sidewalk, that's faster, better, and takes less effort. The whole word "shoveling" seems like the wrong word now because surely shovel ling meant putting the shovel under the snow and lifting it and throwing it to the side. The last two times, I used a spade, with a flat end. Just put it end down on the sidewalk and slide it to the side. Lift it an inch or two and do the next row of snow. No lifting the shovel or the snow, no throwing it, and for a guy with breathing problems some times (well, only when I'm working hard), I can do four times as much without getting running out of breath. 60 feet instead of 15. BTW, my father bought the spade around 1945 and except for some of the blue paint on the side of the handle wearing off, it's still as good as new. Like this but the blade is not stainless and it's even flatter at the end. https://www.amazon.com/Bosmere-Jacks...D0/ref=sr_1_49 It would take all day to clear 180 deet of 4 foot wide sidewalk and a I don't see any point to clearing a 4-foot wide path when I only need 8 inches. The city requires the sidewalk to be CLEARED within 24 hours of snowfall 4 car deiveway of 8 inches of snow with that thing!!!. The YT624 does Or a 4-car driveway. When I had a driveway, I only cleared a path for the tires. You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc freezes you tear your muffler off? You use your bumper as a plough to push the snow from behind or infront of the car???? The plogh can leace 2 pile 2 feet deepand 2 or 3 feet wide across the end of the driveway. You MIGHT get out once - You MIGHT get in once, but I can almost guarantee you well be spending money on exhaust repairs. Not to mention the mail man and couriers will NOT deliver if the driveway is not shovelled (the friveway is the "sidewalk" to the front foor. The mailbox was at the road. And if we got one package delivered a year that was a lot. (This was quite a few years ago, but now, I'm not going to buy anything online until the snow melts. I did shovel for the grocery delivery..) it in about half an hour. If it snows less than 3 inches at a time I clear it with the 22 inch Garrant Yukon Ergonomic snow pusher (https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/21-inch...r/4Y9TPF0SXRMR) in about the same amount of time. |
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On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:07:32 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:25:30 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:17:29 PM UTC-5, Oliver George wrote: On 2/17/21 2:03 PM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 1:32:45 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: BTW. after all these years, I have a new improved way of shoveling the sidewalk, that's faster, better, and takes less effort. The whole word "shoveling" seems like the wrong word now because surely shovel ling meant putting the shovel under the snow and lifting it and throwing it to the side. The last two times, I used a spade, with a flat end. Just put it end down on the sidewalk and slide it to the side. Lift it an inch or two and do the next row of snow. No lifting the shovel or the snow, no throwing it, and for a guy with breathing problems some times (well, only when I'm working hard), I can do four times as much without getting running out of breath. 60 feet instead of 15. I hate to break it to you, but that's how all of us old farts shovel snow. Of course, after a few snowfalls without a thaw in between, one does have to lift the snow up over the piles of snow at the edge of the sidewalk. ISTR in 2013 we got 60 inches of snow over the course of the winter, with precious little thawing until spring. Even the snowblower was having a hard time throwing snow up over the piles next to the driveway. Cindy Hamilton What kind of snowflake blower do you have? My little 19hp JD can hit the 7kV primary over my driveway. In 2013 we had some sort of Toro. A single-stage jobbie with those rubber flappers. We have some colored and stamped concrete that we don't want to tear up. We replaced it this year with a Honda. I think it's this one: https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Equipment-HS720AA-Single-Stage-Control/dp/B00P4QORJK Cindy Hamilton We call those snow throwers - or power shovels. The work good for loose snow - not bad for wet - but no good for frozen packed snow or snow with a heavy ice coating. Sometimes you NEED wheel drive or track drive to motivate the thing. I generally get out and use the thing right away, so no frozen packed snow. Haven't had to deal with a heavy ice coating on top of snow. That's pretty rare here; probably something about the way the Great Lakes affect the weather. Cindy Hamilton |
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We grew up in northern Wisconsin. It was not uncommon to have to toss a shovel of snow over a 4 foot bank on the side of driveway or sidewalk, after the first couple snows. Your shovel technique is fine for a light snow but worthless for a real storm.
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On 2/18/2021 9:07 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:25:30 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 5:17:29 PM UTC-5, Oliver George wrote: On 2/17/21 2:03 PM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 1:32:45 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: BTW. after all these years, I have a new improved way of shoveling the sidewalk, that's faster, better, and takes less effort. The whole word "shoveling" seems like the wrong word now because surely shovel ling meant putting the shovel under the snow and lifting it and throwing it to the side. The last two times, I used a spade, with a flat end. Just put it end down on the sidewalk and slide it to the side. Lift it an inch or two and do the next row of snow. No lifting the shovel or the snow, no throwing it, and for a guy with breathing problems some times (well, only when I'm working hard), I can do four times as much without getting running out of breath. 60 feet instead of 15. I hate to break it to you, but that's how all of us old farts shovel snow. Of course, after a few snowfalls without a thaw in between, one does have to lift the snow up over the piles of snow at the edge of the sidewalk. ISTR in 2013 we got 60 inches of snow over the course of the winter, with precious little thawing until spring. Even the snowblower was having a hard time throwing snow up over the piles next to the driveway. Cindy Hamilton What kind of snowflake blower do you have? My little 19hp JD can hit the 7kV primary over my driveway. In 2013 we had some sort of Toro. A single-stage jobbie with those rubber flappers. We have some colored and stamped concrete that we don't want to tear up. We replaced it this year with a Honda. I think it's this one: https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Equipment-HS720AA-Single-Stage-Control/dp/B00P4QORJK Cindy Hamilton We call those snow throwers - or power shovels. The work good for loose snow - not bad for wet - but no good for frozen packed snow or snow with a heavy ice coating. Sometimes you NEED wheel drive or track drive to motivate the thing. We had a heavy, wet one yesterday and I brought out the snow thrower around sunset rather than wait for today. Good thing as all is ice today. I pointed out elsewhere that a track drive might move the snow thrower but the blades would have a problem maybe even break or bend if shear bolts do not fail. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? |
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:03:20 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 02:12:21 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:11:30 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:32:39 -0500, micky wrote: BTW. after all these years, I have a new improved way of shoveling the sidewalk, that's faster, better, and takes less effort. The whole word "shoveling" seems like the wrong word now because surely shovel ling meant putting the shovel under the snow and lifting it and throwing it to the side. The last two times, I used a spade, with a flat end. Just put it end down on the sidewalk and slide it to the side. Lift it an inch or two and do the next row of snow. No lifting the shovel or the snow, no throwing it, and for a guy with breathing problems some times (well, only when I'm working hard), I can do four times as much without getting running out of breath. 60 feet instead of 15. BTW, my father bought the spade around 1945 and except for some of the blue paint on the side of the handle wearing off, it's still as good as new. Like this but the blade is not stainless and it's even flatter at the end. https://www.amazon.com/Bosmere-Jacks...D0/ref=sr_1_49 It would take all day to clear 180 deet of 4 foot wide sidewalk and a I don't see any point to clearing a 4-foot wide path when I only need 8 inches. The city requires the sidewalk to be CLEARED within 24 hours of snowfall When I lived in snow country, (Montana, Nebraska, Kansas), I had the same requirement to CLEAR the sidewalk in front of my house. Those were city ordinances and they didn't say we should clear a path; they simply said clear the sidewalk. Like someone mentioned earlier, it could well be for wheelchair access. 4 car deiveway of 8 inches of snow with that thing!!!. The YT624 does Or a 4-car driveway. When I had a driveway, I only cleared a path for the tires. You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow freezes you tear your muffler off? You use your bumper as a plough to push the snow from behind or infront of the car???? The plogh can leace 2 pile 2 feet deepand 2 or 3 feet wide across the end of the driveway. You MIGHT get out once - You MIGHT get in once, but I can almost guarantee you well be spending money on exhaust repairs. I had a 4WD pickup when I lived in snow country so I never cleared my driveway. Never had an issue as a result. I just used the pickup to pack the snow down. Not to mention the mail man and couriers will NOT deliver if the driveway is not shovelled (the friveway is the "sidewalk" to the front foor. I never had regular mail delivery to the house but I happened to be looking out the window one winter day and noticed the Mormon guys skipping past my house. I guess I lost out that day. it in about half an hour. If it snows less than 3 inches at a time I clear it with the 22 inch Garrant Yukon Ergonomic snow pusher (https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/21-inch...r/4Y9TPF0SXRMR) in about the same amount of time. |
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"micky" wrote in message ... In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? It actually costs less because you save on the thing in the middle and a single double width door is cheaper than two separate doors. |
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:29:52 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:01:24 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: On the rare occasions I need to move snow , I much prefer to use my yard tractor with the 48" blade on the front ... Nice. Our yard tractor isn't quite powerful enough for that. We did the math on buying a bigger tractor. I figured we'd just save the money toward hiring it done when I get too feeble to use the snowblower. We'll probably phase it in: do it myself for up to 6 inches and hire someone to do it for anything deeper than that. Then after a while just sit in the house and watch someone else do it all. Not as much fun as hiring landscapers. The snow-removal guys have to keep their shirts on. If you need a specific behavior, just make it a business requirement. You may have to pay a little extra. |
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:33:17 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? Dunno now but the steel beam I put over an 18' door (8deep X 34lb/ft) in 1978 cost about $400. Two beams for 8' doors (8"x17lb) would have been a quarter of that. The difference between one 18' door and two 8' doors ate intro that difference quite a bit. That was a drop flange beam, carrying the joists for a 2d floor and a brick veneer. |
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:36:39 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:29:52 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:01:24 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: On the rare occasions I need to move snow , I much prefer to use my yard tractor with the 48" blade on the front ... Nice. Our yard tractor isn't quite powerful enough for that. We did the math on buying a bigger tractor. I figured we'd just save the money toward hiring it done when I get too feeble to use the snowblower. We'll probably phase it in: do it myself for up to 6 inches and hire someone to do it for anything deeper than that. Then after a while just sit in the house and watch someone else do it all. Not as much fun as hiring landscapers. The snow-removal guys have to keep their shirts on. If you need a specific behavior, just make it a business requirement. You may have to pay a little extra. Landscapers here are generally latino and they wear long pants and long sleeve shirts. They understand keeping the sun off of you is better than taking your shirt off. I guess living at real low latitudes makes you smarter about the heat. |
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On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 5:33:25 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? Bah. I've got an old garage with two doors. It's made of concrete block. Just pay some attention to what you're doing when you pull in or out. If you're building 1 garage, the cost of a stronger lintel is in the noise. If you're building 1000 garages, now you're starting to talk real money. Cindy Hamilton |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:33:17 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? Dunno now but the steel beam I put over an 18' door (8deep X 34lb/ft) in 1978 cost about $400. Two beams for 8' doors (8"x17lb) would have been a quarter of that. But the difference wouldn't have been anything like that with no bricks above the single door, single story and when it was in the same direction as the roof trusses if it had a pitched roof with a gable end there. The difference between one 18' door and two 8' doors ate intro that difference quite a bit. That was a drop flange beam, carrying the joists for a 2d floor and a brick veneer. My mates new place, just being completed now has nothing like (8"deep X 34lb/ft) with his single story metal roof with no gable at all. https://www.dropbox.com/s/9d6v8dcld0..._2759.jpg?dl=0 |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:36:39 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:29:52 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:01:24 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: On the rare occasions I need to move snow , I much prefer to use my yard tractor with the 48" blade on the front ... Nice. Our yard tractor isn't quite powerful enough for that. We did the math on buying a bigger tractor. I figured we'd just save the money toward hiring it done when I get too feeble to use the snowblower. We'll probably phase it in: do it myself for up to 6 inches and hire someone to do it for anything deeper than that. Then after a while just sit in the house and watch someone else do it all. Not as much fun as hiring landscapers. The snow-removal guys have to keep their shirts on. If you need a specific behavior, just make it a business requirement. You may have to pay a little extra. Landscapers here are generally latino and they wear long pants and long sleeve shirts. They understand keeping the sun off of you is better than taking your shirt off. I guess living at real low latitudes makes you smarter about the heat. None of ours dress like that. |
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" wrote in message ... On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 5:33:25 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? Bah. I've got an old garage with two doors. It's made of concrete block. Just pay some attention to what you're doing when you pull in or out. If you're building 1 garage, the cost of a stronger lintel is in the noise. If you're building 1000 garages, now you're starting to talk real money. But its not necessarily more expensive to have just one door. |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 03:24:05 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Landscapers here are generally latino and they wear long pants and long sleeve shirts. They understand keeping the sun off of you is better than taking your shirt off. I guess living at real low latitudes makes you smarter about the heat. None of ours dress like that. Of course not, you auto-contradicting senile pest! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 03:23:00 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: My mates new place, just being completed now has nothing like (8"deep X 34lb/ft) I told you already, you miserable forsaken sociopath: the people whose stories you watch on TV are NOT your "mates"! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian cretin's pathological trolling: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 03:27:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: .. But its not necessarily more expensive to have just one door. Of COURSE not, you auto-contradicting miserable senile pest! LOL -- Bod addressing senile Rot: "Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of trouble." Message-ID: |
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On 02/20/2021 03:26 AM, wrote:
Bah. I've got an old garage with two doors. It's made of concrete block. Just pay some attention to what you're doing when you pull in or out. That's the important part... We went to the lumber yard to pick up supplies for a project. A '57 Chevy wasn't exactly a pickup so the longer pieces were stick out the passenger window with the other end on the rear window shelf, standard procedure. We were talking about something when my father drove into the garage as usual. I wasn't hurt by the studs launching out the rear window but I was scared that somehow it would be all my fault. The insurance company declined to pay out. |
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lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip
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troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: That's the important part... We went to the lumber yard to pick up Oh, no! Yet another one of those inevitable lengthy senile bull**** stories! LOL |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:26:19 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 5:33:25 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Feb 2021 01:22:01 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: You wear knee-high boots to get to and into the car? ANd when the snow We parked in the garage then. HAven't been able to put a car in the garage for over 30 years. The 80 corolla was a snug fit without my tool box and the Myford lathe and Lincoln Tombstone welder - not to mention the bikes etc We had a two car garage but only one car, so we still had room. In Baltimore and maybe many other places, they didn't even have garages for many expensive houses into the 70's, just carports. But since then, for houses of almost all prices, they build a lot of two-car garages with 2 single doors and a post in the middle. So for the whole time you live ther, you have to have the empty part of your garage in just the right place, and you risk hitting the door frame every time you go in or out. How much more would it cost to make the lintel stronger and put in one double-wide garage door? Bah. I've got an old garage with two doors. It's made of concrete block. Just pay some attention to what you're doing when you pull in or out. If you're building 1 garage, the cost of a stronger lintel is in the noise. If you're building 1000 garages, now you're starting to talk real money. Cindy Hamilton Same with the difference between a 7 foot and an 8 foot door. My first house was cursed with a 7X7. No problem for a '28 Chevy od '72 Firenza - but a significant issue for a Ramcharger or a Pacer. |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:51:38 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:29:32 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:36:39 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:29:52 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:01:24 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: On the rare occasions I need to move snow , I much prefer to use my yard tractor with the 48" blade on the front ... Nice. Our yard tractor isn't quite powerful enough for that. We did the math on buying a bigger tractor. I figured we'd just save the money toward hiring it done when I get too feeble to use the snowblower. We'll probably phase it in: do it myself for up to 6 inches and hire someone to do it for anything deeper than that. Then after a while just sit in the house and watch someone else do it all. Not as much fun as hiring landscapers. The snow-removal guys have to keep their shirts on. If you need a specific behavior, just make it a business requirement. You may have to pay a little extra. Landscapers here are generally latino and they wear long pants and long sleeve shirts. They understand keeping the sun off of you is better than taking your shirt off. I guess living at real low latitudes makes you smarter about the heat. I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might sweat through it but then it becomes a cooler. Being hot in the shade or inside might be helped by taking off clothes but not outside in the sun. |
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On 02/20/2021 01:51 PM, micky wrote:
I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. Never spent much time at 10 below did you? Everything becomes a major project and if you **** up you die. |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:25:17 -0700, rbowman
wrote: On 02/20/2021 01:51 PM, micky wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. Never spent much time at 10 below did you? Everything becomes a major project and if you **** up you die. I think I prefer laying by the pool when it is 90 and if I get hot, I jump in for a few minutes. Problem solved. My pipes won't freeze and my car starts. I don't need snow tires and I don't have to shovel it. |
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lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Blabbermouth
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:25:17 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: Never spent much time at 10 below did you? Everything becomes a major project and if you **** up you die. More senile wisdom from the resident senile bigmouth. G |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. Have you been in the sun that much? I am not talking about low on the horizon sun, I mean where it is not tempered as much by the atmosphere. I tend to trust people who live below the tropic of cancer about working in the sun more than people closer to the arctic circle. You seldom if ever see a Mexican or Guatemalan with his shirt off if he is working. They must know something. |
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"micky" wrote in message ... In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. Me too. I built my own house from scratch on a bare block of land and did almost all the work myself. That involved 2 summers and one winter and the summers are much hotter here than where he infests, 10 days in a row over 100F isnt at all uncommon, 115F too. I wore no shirt at all, just shorts and felt much worse with a shirt on. No shade at all. Not ideal skin cancer wise, but much more comfortable. sweat through it but then it becomes a cooler. Being hot in the shade or inside might be helped by taking off clothes but not outside in the sun. |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. Have you been in the sun that much? I have, two entire summers when building the house, no shade at all, and much hotter than you get. I am not talking about low on the horizon sun, I mean where it is not tempered as much by the atmosphere. I tend to trust people who live below the tropic of cancer about working in the sun more than people closer to the arctic circle. Ours don't bother with shirts. You seldom if ever see a Mexican or Guatemalan with his shirt off if he is working. I have seen all of ours and me too. They must know something. They clearly don't. |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- "Who or What is Rod Speed? Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. sweat through it but then it becomes a cooler. Being hot in the shade or inside might be helped by taking off clothes but not outside in the sun. I can tell you from experience, when it's 115C in the shade and over 50% humidity you don't go out without your shirt on - particularly in the sun. I found a light cotton T shirt was "comfortable" but not as good as a light loose fitting cotton shirt. that let the air move. You stayed in the shade as much as possible, and tried to find a spot with a breeze. With high humidity sweating didn't help - and the only way you got any evaporation was with a breeze. That late October 1973 afternoon at 115 in the shade was a "cool comfortable" day compared to the 2 weeks before. (when the RH was occaisionally actually over 100% - and yes, that IS possible!!!) The humidity is highly localized close to the falls -a HUGE humidifier. The rains come in November |
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"Clare Snyder" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. sweat through it but then it becomes a cooler. Being hot in the shade or inside might be helped by taking off clothes but not outside in the sun. I can tell you from experience, when it's 115C in the shade and over 50% humidity you don't go out without your shirt on - particularly in the sun. I can tell you from experience that I did just that, repeatedly. Presumably you 115C is a typo and you meant 115F. I found a light cotton T shirt was "comfortable" but not as good as a light loose fitting cotton shirt. that let the air move. You stayed in the shade as much as possible, It wasn't possible when I was building my house. There was no shade. and tried to find a spot with a breeze. With high humidity That's not high humidity. sweating didn't help - and the only way you got any evaporation was with a breeze. That late October 1973 afternoon at 115 in the shade was a "cool comfortable" day compared to the 2 weeks before. (when the RH was occaisionally actually over 100% - and yes, that IS possible!!!) Bull****. The humidity is highly localized close to the falls - a HUGE humidifier. The rains come in November |
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On 2/21/2021 8:25 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. sweat through it but then it becomes a cooler. Being hot in the shade or inside might be helped by taking off clothes but not outside in the sun. I can tell you from experience, when it's 115C in the shade and over 50% humidity you don't go out without your shirt on - particularly in the sun. I sure hope you mean 115F |
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 09:21:30 -0500,
wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:02:11 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:29:11 -0500, wrote: I'd much rather be cold than hot. With cold you can put on more clothes. There's an absolute limit to how much you can take off. The sub tropics are not for snowflakes you might melt I am actually pretty used to it but you are actually better off with a cotton shirt than not wearing one if you are in the sun. You might eVERYONE Says that but it's not my experience, even in the sun. Have you been in the sun that much? I am not talking about low on the horizon sun, I mean where it is not tempered as much by the atmosphere. Yes, I've been in the midday sun in the middle of summer on a sunny day, and I've been doing physical work there, and I like it better with my shirt off than my shirt on. I tend to trust people who live below the tropic of cancer So don't trust me. I'm not telling you or anyone how to behave. I am saying that for some people, my method works better. Surely you don't think everyone is the same. about working in the sun more than people closer to the arctic circle. You seldom if ever see a Mexican or Guatemalan with his shirt off if he is working. They must know something. Or they're used to it, or conforming to cultural rules about modesty. Or something about their ethnnic, genetic background makes them respond differently from me. Anyhow, I'm not going to change my habits to go by a second-hand report of what Mexicans and Guatemalans do. You made me curious so I looked. My first search didn't bother to specify working and some of the hits were about swimming: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/wh...hes-on-6586495 https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Mexican...earing-clothes If they wear clothes while swimming, I'm not going to feel prompted to copy their style when dry. Changing the search terms didn't work well, so I'm quitting. |
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On 2/21/2021 10:00 PM, micky wrote:
about working in the sun more than people closer to the arctic circle. You seldom if ever see a Mexican or Guatemalan with his shirt off if he is working. They must know something. Or they're used to it, or conforming to cultural rules about modesty. Or something about their ethnnic, genetic background makes them respond differently from me. Anyhow, I'm not going to change my habits to go by a second-hand report of what Mexicans and Guatemalans do. There is a lot of home building going on near me. Many of the workers are Mexican, as are many of the landscape people. I don't recall ever seeing one shirtless. Most working outside have wide brim hats too, no backwards ball caps. Only shirtless person I see is my scrawny gringo next door neighbor. |
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