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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot. ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot. ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse. two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too. A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 12:43:08 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot. ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse. two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too. A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F
wrote: On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. What state is that? OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the ex-president." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7 They are so wacked. And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing Democratic Politicians: Reports Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said." But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views. That's rich. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347 This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:
I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 8:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY?** The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours.**** And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"!*** Gee, really?** It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months.** Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge.* They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this.** Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system.* Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it.* One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active.* Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours?* How many staff do you need to answer?* From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours.* If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour.* At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour.* So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet. Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available dates/times and click my choice. Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for those without internet. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. What state is that? WA OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the ex-president." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7 They are so wacked. They are still living in 2020. And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing Democratic Politicians: Reports Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said." But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views. That's rich. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347 This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia. This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember what Repubs are for a loooong time. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F
wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. What state is that? WA Are you category 1B, over 75? I just missed that, I'm 74, 10 days ago. 1C, over 65 They started with 1B 9 days ago and 1C became eligible 2 days ago, but plainly they coudln't do most of 1B in one week. So eligibility isn't very important. Governor Hogand said something about that this morning, but the Emergency Alert System Test came on and overrode it. I suppose he said, Wait. My brother is an 80-year old doctor, though he doesn't see patients. He went to a Publix in Florida and they told him he was eligible, come back in two weeks. Hey, you Floria guys. Is there a way my brother can get his shots sooner now that he's 80 years old? Maybe the Okefenokee Swamp has a clinic with vaccine that no one can get to? OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the ex-president." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7 They are so wacked. They are still living in 2020. LOL And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing Democratic Politicians: Reports Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said." But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views. That's rich. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347 This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia. This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember what Repubs are for a loooong time. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 9:56 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. What state is that? WA Are you category 1B, over 75? 1b, over 65. That was the latest CDC recommendation. I just missed that, I'm 74, 10 days ago. 1C, over 65 They started with 1B 9 days ago and 1C became eligible 2 days ago, but plainly they coudln't do most of 1B in one week. So eligibility isn't very important. Governor Hogand said something about that this morning, but the Emergency Alert System Test came on and overrode it. I suppose he said, Wait. My brother is an 80-year old doctor, though he doesn't see patients. He went to a Publix in Florida and they told him he was eligible, come back in two weeks. Hey, you Floria guys. Is there a way my brother can get his shots sooner now that he's 80 years old? Maybe the Okefenokee Swamp has a clinic with vaccine that no one can get to? Make sure he checks with the medical system he uses. Hospital, or University chains. Polyclinic got my wife in the next days when they started their system. It took me a week using the UW system. OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the ex-president." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7 They are so wacked. They are still living in 2020. LOL And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing Democratic Politicians: Reports Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said." But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views. That's rich. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347 This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia. This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember what Repubs are for a loooong time. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 11:42 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY?** The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours.**** And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"!*** Gee, really?** It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months.** Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge.* They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this.** Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system.* Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it.* One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active.* Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours?* How many staff do you need to answer?* From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours.* If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour.* At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour.* So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet. Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available dates/times and click my choice. Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for those without internet. They did internet is some places. AgGain, what do you need for 100,000 people signing on at the same time? The local county does not have the resources that Google and Facebook built up over years. It was tough getting on and appointments filled. When you have 3000 does for 100,000 people you get bottlenecks. It took me nearly an hour to find out they were gone when they tried that first round. There is no instant easy solution for that many people at one time. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:30:45 -0800, Bob F
wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:56 AM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote: It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got their first shot.* ;-) They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot. https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/ Similar https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/ Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL. I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. What state is that? WA Are you category 1B, over 75? 1b, over 65. That was the latest CDC recommendation. Apparently it varies by state! but I don't know about the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/me...ID-Dooling.pdf 1a LTCF residents, Health care personnel 1b Persons 75 years and older, Frontline Essential Workers 1c Persons 65-74 years, Persons 16-64 with high-risk medical conditions, Other Essential Workers The 1st categories on each line are Prevention of Morbidity & Mortality The last category is there for Preservation of Societal Functioning OTOH https://www.dshs.texas.gov/coronavir...AP-Phase1B.pdf Texas says Phase 1B Vaccine PrioritiesPeople 65 years of age and olderPeople 16 years of age and older with at least one chronic medical condition that puts them at increased risk for severe illness from the virus that causes COVID-19, such as but not limited to:CancerChronic kidney diseaseCOPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)Heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease or cardiomyopathiesSolid organ transplantationObesity and severe obesity (body mass index of 30 kg/m2 or higher)PregnancySickle cell diseaseType 2 diabetes mellitus But in Maryland 1b is 75 or older. 65+ is 1c There are 54+ other "jurisdictions", not just states. So is there a national standard or not? I just missed that, I'm 74, 10 days ago. 1C, over 65 They started with 1B 9 days ago and 1C became eligible 2 days ago, but plainly they coudln't do most of 1B in one week. So eligibility isn't very important. Governor Hogand said something about that this morning, but the Emergency Alert System Test came on and overrode it. I suppose he said, Wait. My brother is an 80-year old doctor, though he doesn't see patients. He went to a Publix in Florida and they told him he was eligible, come back in two weeks. Hey, you Floria guys. Is there a way my brother can get his shots sooner now that he's 80 years old? Maybe the Okefenokee Swamp has a clinic with vaccine that no one can get to? Make sure he checks with the medical system he uses. Hospital, or University chains. I'll tell him. Good idea. Polyclinic got my wife in the next days when they started their system. It took me a week using the UW system. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F posted for all of us to digest... I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. That is riding on the coattails from a Repub President using Warp Speed. The new president is retracting his earlier blather. In our Demo state we won't be seeing the vax until March or later. In fact there isn't enough to give the second shot to initial victims. Whatta you going to do Biden/Wolfe ? Now back to a.h.r! -- Tekkie |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F
wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote: And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing Democratic Politicians: Reports Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said." But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views. That's rich. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347 This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia. This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember what Repubs are for a loooong time. A little more about Margie: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...g-out-control/ https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-videos-325579 |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:42:55 -0800, Bob F posted for all of us to digest... What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet. Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available dates/times and click my choice. Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for those without internet. I see you are in WA. Are they still vaccinating the rioters before the old people? Can one make it through the riots to get your whack? Do you think the riots will be done by the second spurt is needed? -- Tekkie |
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Planned Parenthood should give out the shots
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:30:45 -0800, Bob F posted for all of us to digest... Make sure he checks with the medical system he uses. Hospital, or University chains. Polyclinic got my wife in the next days when they started their system. It took me a week using the UW system. So you couldn't get your pinch at the same time as your wife? Man, poor logistics. Now you have to fight the riots twice again. I will give Biden an idea. Have them give the shots out at Planned Parenthood! They are already funded and can run a conga line and if needed a cleanup on aisle 4. You heard it here first! They are ready to service the community and located in Demo cities and known by the locals. Now back to a.h.r! -- Tekkie |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/27/2021 1:46 PM, Tekkie� wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:42:55 -0800, Bob F posted for all of us to digest... What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet. Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available dates/times and click my choice. Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for those without internet. I see you are in WA. Are they still vaccinating the rioters before the old people? Can one make it through the riots to get your whack? Do you think the riots will be done by the second spurt is needed? Still spewing **** and nothing else, I see. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:42:55 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY?** The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours.**** And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"!*** Gee, really?** It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months.** Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge.* They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this.** Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system.* Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it.* One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active.* Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours?* How many staff do you need to answer?* From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours.* If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour.* At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour.* So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? They do use the internet but it is the same problem. Fifty thousand people slam the site at 0600 hoping to get in line for a few hundred shots per location. We don't just have our population here, we have snowbirds here from all over. It is probably easier to get a shot in Ohio. They are all here. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:22:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski
wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. If they had plenty of supply no appointment would be needed, just line up. Most of the locations can handle 1000 to 2000 a day. I think if that happened, there would be more people in line than there are people to give shots. One of Biden's ideas is to allow doctors and nurses to give shots anywhere in the country, even where they are not licensed. In order to get more retired drs. and nurses involved, many of whom move to Florida, Arizona etc. when they retire. I think this would only make a 10 or 20% increase, even if most retired folk volunteered. Do they teach people in the army and national guard to give shots? AIUI an appointment takes about 7 minutes, or less, to give a shot, so appointments could be made 7 minutes apart. and if they had enough vaccine, they could go 24 hours a day but then they would need 2 or 3 times as many shot givers. As you say, infrastructure is there and easily expanded but people are complaining about the phone lines and web sites. The capacity is there but not all for the first hour it is open for appointments. They had 10 months to prepare but not every state did. OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. |
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On 1/28/21 1:35 AM, micky wrote:
OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. Yah, I don't need the FauciVaccine-19 so you can have mine. |
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On 28/01/2021 11:22, Cavia Porcellus wrote:
On 1/28/21 1:35 AM, micky wrote: OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. Yah, I don't need the FauciVaccine-19 so you can have mine. Sadly there are many more fools like you. COVID-DENIER DIES Influencer, 33, who thought Covid didnt exist dies after catching the virus. A FITNESS influencer who thought Covid-19 didn't exist has died at the age of 33 after contracting the virus on a trip to Turkey. To his one million subscribers, the 33-year-old appeared super-fit as he promoted sports and healthy living. Dmitriy Stuzhuk had been discharged from hospital in his native Ukraine after testing positive- but was rushed back and as his health rapidly deteriorated. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...-virus-turkey/ |
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On 1/28/2021 3:22 AM, Cavia Porcellus wrote:
On 1/28/21 1:35 AM, micky wrote: OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. Yah, I don't need the FauciVaccine-19 so you can have mine. Doing your part to be the problem. |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:22:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. If they had plenty of supply no appointment would be needed, just line up. Most of the locations can handle 1000 to 2000 a day. As you say, infrastructure is there and easily expanded but people are complaining about the phone lines and web sites. The capacity is there but not all for the first hour it is open for appointments. I agree the web sites and phone lines are jammed but that is what happens when you have 10,000 hits in 10 seconds. More fair would be a lottery where you register by zip code and they draw your name out of a computerized hat but people would complain about that too. In real life, that is what it is in the first place when you have 40,000 shots per day and 5 million people trying to get them. Florida does lead the nation in the number of 65 and over vaccinated tho. (over half a million or a bit better than 10%) |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:35:42 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:22:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. If they had plenty of supply no appointment would be needed, just line up. Most of the locations can handle 1000 to 2000 a day. I think if that happened, there would be more people in line than there are people to give shots. Since they started opening this up to any pharmacy that can give shots, shooters isn't the problem. There are 30 within 10 miles of me according to YP.Com. That doesn't include the doctors, hospitals and government operations. |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:42:49 +0000, Bod wrote:
On 28/01/2021 11:22, Cavia Porcellus wrote: On 1/28/21 1:35 AM, micky wrote: OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. Yah, I don't need the FauciVaccine-19 so you can have mine. Sadly there are many more fools like you. COVID-DENIER DIES Influencer, 33, who thought Covid didnt exist dies after catching the virus. A FITNESS influencer who thought Covid-19 didn't exist has died at the age of 33 after contracting the virus on a trip to Turkey. To his one million subscribers, the 33-year-old appeared super-fit as he promoted sports and healthy living. Dmitriy Stuzhuk had been discharged from hospital in his native Ukraine after testing positive- but was rushed back and as his health rapidly deteriorated. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...-virus-turkey/ Should we wait until we get a vaccine that prevents the Brazil mutation? The current one is predicted as being 50% effective, a coin toss. The effectiveness on the C-19 is 95%. A slot machine. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:42:49 +0000, Bod wrote: On 28/01/2021 11:22, Cavia Porcellus wrote: On 1/28/21 1:35 AM, micky wrote: OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. Yah, I don't need the FauciVaccine-19 so you can have mine. Sadly there are many more fools like you. COVID-DENIER DIES Influencer, 33, who thought Covid didnt exist dies after catching the virus. A FITNESS influencer who thought Covid-19 didn't exist has died at the age of 33 after contracting the virus on a trip to Turkey. To his one million subscribers, the 33-year-old appeared super-fit as he promoted sports and healthy living. Dmitriy Stuzhuk had been discharged from hospital in his native Ukraine after testing positive- but was rushed back and as his health rapidly deteriorated. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/new...-virus-turkey/ Should we wait until we get a vaccine that prevents the Brazil mutation? The current ones do. The current one is predicted as being 50% effective, a coin toss. That number is straight from someone's arse. that hasnt been tested. The effectiveness on the C-19 is 95%. Varys with the vaccine, thats true of the best of them. A slot machine. Nope. about as good as it gets with most vaccines. And the best vaccines are better than actually being infected by the virus, very unusual for a vaccine and virus. |
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On 1/28/2021 7:59 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 1/28/2021 4:54 PM, wrote: Florida does lead the nation in the number of 65 and over vaccinated tho. (over half a million or a bit better than 10%) When did they start with the over 65 crowd. It was only the beginning of last week here. It was from the start in FL. Once the front line was done our governor said over 65. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:54:24 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:22:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. If they had plenty of supply no appointment would be needed, just line up. Most of the locations can handle 1000 to 2000 a day. As you say, infrastructure is there and easily expanded but people are complaining about the phone lines and web sites. The capacity is there but not all for the first hour it is open for appointments. I agree the web sites and phone lines are jammed but that is what happens when you have 10,000 hits in 10 seconds. More fair would be a lottery where you register by zip code and they draw your name out of a computerized hat but people would complain about that too. In real life, that is what it is in the first place when you have 40,000 shots per day and 5 million people trying to get them. Florida does lead the nation in the number of 65 and over vaccinated tho. (over half a million or a bit better than 10%) Florida is 10th, by percentage, or 15th if you include the territories. Florida is 3rd if you sort by number of shots given. That's still far better than average. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ine-doses.html |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:11:15 -0500, wrote:
Should we wait until we get a vaccine that prevents the Brazil mutation? The current one is predicted as being 50% effective, a coin toss. The effectiveness on the C-19 is 95%. A slot machine. How bad is your medical plan if you have to come here to ask for medical advice? :-) |
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"micky" wrote in message ... In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 23:22:10 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:33 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot. I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco. I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either. If they had plenty of supply no appointment would be needed, just line up. Most of the locations can handle 1000 to 2000 a day. I think if that happened, there would be more people in line than there are people to give shots. One of Biden's ideas is to allow doctors and nurses to give shots anywhere in the country, even where they are not licensed. In order to get more retired drs. and nurses involved, many of whom move to Florida, Arizona etc. when they retire. I think this would only make a 10 or 20% increase, even if most retired folk volunteered. Do they teach people in the army and national guard to give shots? Yes with their medics. AIUI an appointment takes about 7 minutes, or less, to give a shot, so appointments could be made 7 minutes apart. and if they had enough vaccine, they could go 24 hours a day but then they would need 2 or 3 times as many shot givers. As you say, infrastructure is there and easily expanded but people are complaining about the phone lines and web sites. The capacity is there but not all for the first hour it is open for appointments. They had 10 months to prepare but not every state did. OTOH, all the people who foolishly don't want the shot will mean I'll be able to get mine that much earlier. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:40:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski
wrote: On 1/28/2021 7:59 PM, Bob F wrote: On 1/28/2021 4:54 PM, wrote: Florida does lead the nation in the number of 65 and over vaccinated tho. (over half a million or a bit better than 10%) When did they start with the over 65 crowd. It was only the beginning of last week here. It was from the start in FL. Once the front line was done our governor said over 65. That's why my brother in Florida, who is 80, can't get his shot yet, even though he's more vulnerable than some 66-year old chippie. It would have been better to start with 75 or 80 and over, or even 90 (though maybe there aren't enough of them to warrant a separate section.) . |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On 1/29/2021 2:46 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:40:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/28/2021 7:59 PM, Bob F wrote: On 1/28/2021 4:54 PM, wrote: Florida does lead the nation in the number of 65 and over vaccinated tho. (over half a million or a bit better than 10%) When did they start with the over 65 crowd. It was only the beginning of last week here. It was from the start in FL. Once the front line was done our governor said over 65. That's why my brother in Florida, who is 80, can't get his shot yet, even though he's more vulnerable than some 66-year old chippie. It would have been better to start with 75 or 80 and over, or even 90 (though maybe there aren't enough of them to warrant a separate section.) . Same reason a 64 year old with a heart condition can't bet it because a fairly healthy 81 year old got it instead. How about a 45 year old with asthma? Maybe we should have doctors going door to door and assess everyone's health and assign them a priority number. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 11:34:22 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. So they should have started taking reservations back in Sept. This week, people with last names beginning with A-F are encouraged to register. We all knew this was coming and it's not rocket science. The America that put a man on the moon, that won WWII, that crushed the USSR, has fallen badly and can't get up. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. |
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Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccinesdoses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said
On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 2:43:36 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 11:42 AM, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my 9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice it is to live in a well run Democratic state. You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else. Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now. Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep dialing. Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people. Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is 100,000 people. How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is 25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them. My county has about half that but went to a different system where you register and they call you when doses are available. We can't all be first n line. What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub state to handle? All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet. Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available dates/times and click my choice. Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for those without internet. They did internet is some places. AgGain, what do you need for 100,000 people signing on at the same time? The local county does not have the resources that Google and Facebook built up over years. It was tough getting on and appointments filled. When you have 3000 does for 100,000 people you get bottlenecks. It took me nearly an hour to find out they were gone when they tried that first round. There is no instant easy solution for that many people at one time. Yes there was. That would have been to have a competent, fit president who looked at the whole problem, end to end, who issued recommendations to the states, created one national database to register for the vaccine, starting in Sept. Instead Trump ignored it all and punted it to the states. Even worse, that ahole general Warpspeed go on 60 minutes and lie that it was all covered, that they had systems in place to track every dose from the manufacturer to the person it's give to. Only now is Biden calling up FEMA to open vaccine sites and trying to find former docs, nurses, etc that could administer the vaccine. Total incompetence, both by Trump and the geniuses writing books like Cuomo. |
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