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It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot. ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/

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On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot. ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/

Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/


Always has to be some abuse. two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too. A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.
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On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot.* ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/


Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/



Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.


I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 12:43:08 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot. ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/


Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/



Always has to be some abuse. two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too. A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster
there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on
the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have
enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't
be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses
in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else.
Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle
of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform
approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now.



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On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster
there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on
the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have
enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't
be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses
in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else.
Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle
of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform
approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now.



Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in
Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep
dialing.

Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people.
Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is
100,000 people.

How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls
in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From
interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the
first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is
25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of
phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them.

My county has about half that but went to a different system where you
register and they call you when doses are available.

We can't all be first n line.


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On 1/27/2021 8:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY?** The roll out is
a disaster
there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite
remaining on
the line for four hours.**** And the over arching message is, "we
don't have
enough vaccine"!*** Gee, really?** It's been clear for months that
supply won't
be up to demand for probably at least 6 months.** Cuomo, de Blasio,
geniuses
in charge.* They spend more time arguing with each other than anything
else.
Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the
middle
of this.** Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a
uniform
approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now.



Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system.* Here in
Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep
dialing.

Think about it.* One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people.
Most are calling the minute it goes active.* Even if half try, it is
100,000 people.

How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls
in the first few hours?* How many staff do you need to answer?* From
interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the
first couple of hours.* If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is
25,000 calls per hour.* At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of
phone time per hour.* So, you need about 800 operators to answer them.

My county has about half that but went to a different system where you
register and they call you when doses are available.

We can't all be first n line.


What's wrong with using the internet? Is that just too much for a Repub
state to handle?

All my communication to arrange my shot yesterday was on the internet.
Sign into my UW medical system patient page. Click to make an
appointment. Click on the covid vaccine box. Look at the displayed
calendar of available places and click my choice. Look at the available
dates/times and click my choice.

Doing this on the phone seems pretty silly. Save the phone access for
those without internet.
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:34:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster
there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on
the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have
enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't
be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses
in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else.
Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle
of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform
approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now.



Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in
Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep
dialing.

Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people.
Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is
100,000 people.

How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls
in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From
interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the
first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is
25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of
phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them.

My county has about half that but went to a different system where you
register and they call you when doses are available.

We can't all be first n line.


I am not even trying. The choke point is vaccine availability. They
can't make it fast enough There is plenty of infrastructure already in
place for distribution and injection, using pharmacies. When they get
the supply problems worked out I will go down to Publix and get my
shot while buying groceries ... just like the flu shot.

I am not getting in this Black Friday fiasco.
I wouldn't camp out in the rain for a chance to get a $99 PS/5 either.
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 11:34:22 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/27/2021 8:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


You mean as opposed to a poorly run state, like NY? The roll out is a disaster
there, websites don't work, phones don't get answered despite remaining on
the line for four hours. And the over arching message is, "we don't have
enough vaccine"! Gee, really? It's been clear for months that supply won't
be up to demand for probably at least 6 months. Cuomo, de Blasio, geniuses
in charge. They spend more time arguing with each other than anything else.
Oh, Cuomo had time to write a book about how to manage Covid in the middle
of this. Maybe if last summer he had spent that time figuring out a uniform
approach, a website that works, etc they wouldn't be in chaos now.



Can't speak about NY but you have to look at the whole system. Here in
Florida people are complaining they had to hold on the phone or keep
dialing.

Think about it. One Florida county has over 200,000 eligible people.
Most are calling the minute it goes active. Even if half try, it is
100,000 people.


So they should have started taking reservations back in Sept. This week,
people with last names beginning with A-F are encouraged to register.
We all knew this was coming and it's not rocket science. The America
that put a man on the moon, that won WWII, that crushed the USSR,
has fallen badly and can't get up.






How big of a phone system do you have to build to handle 100,000 calls
in the first few hours? How many staff do you need to answer? From
interviews on the news it seems like most called immediately or in the
first couple of hours. If it was equally spread over 4 hours that is
25,000 calls per hour. At 2 minutes per call that is 50,000 minutes of
phone time per hour. So, you need about 800 operators to answer them.

My county has about half that but went to a different system where you
register and they call you when doses are available.

We can't all be first n line.

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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F
wrote:

On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot.* ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/


Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/



Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.


I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


What state is that?


OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory
The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol
siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the
ex-president."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7

They are so wacked.


And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing
Democratic Politicians: Reports
Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not
represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said."
But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views.
That's rich.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347
This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia.
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On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F
wrote:

On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot.* ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/


Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/



Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.


I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


What state is that?


WA



OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory
The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol
siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the
ex-president."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7

They are so wacked.


They are still living in 2020.



And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing
Democratic Politicians: Reports
Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not
represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said."
But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views.
That's rich.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347
This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia.


This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember
what Repubs are for a loooong time.




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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F
wrote:

On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:42:58 -0800, Bob F
wrote:

On 1/26/2021 7:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/26/2021 9:18 PM, micky wrote:
It may not be florida, and it might be only two people, but they got
their first shot.* ;-)

They didn't do the required quarantine and they lied to get their shot.

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...horities-said/


Similar
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...aterina-baker/



Always has to be some abuse.* two people have been arrested for stealing
vaccine too.* A Texas doctor and a paramedic in FL.

I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


What state is that?


WA


Are you category 1B, over 75?

I just missed that, I'm 74, 10 days ago. 1C, over 65

They started with 1B 9 days ago and 1C became eligible 2 days ago, but
plainly they coudln't do most of 1B in one week. So eligibility isn't
very important. Governor Hogand said something about that this morning,
but the Emergency Alert System Test came on and overrode it. I
suppose he said, Wait.

My brother is an 80-year old doctor, though he doesn't see patients. He
went to a Publix in Florida and they told him he was eligible, come back
in two weeks.

Hey, you Floria guys. Is there a way my brother can get his shots sooner
now that he's 80 years old? Maybe the Okefenokee Swamp has a clinic
with vaccine that no one can get to?



OTOH, "Oregon GOP Embraces Capitol Riot False Flag Conspiracy Theory
The Oregon Republican Party falsely claimed the deadly U.S. Capitol
siege by Trump supporters was a Democratic plot to discredit the
ex-president."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/orego...b6c5586aa534a7

They are so wacked.


They are still living in 2020.


LOL



And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing
Democratic Politicians: Reports
Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not
represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said."
But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views.
That's rich.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347
This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia.


This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember
what Repubs are for a loooong time.


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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:59:26 -0800, Bob F
wrote:

On 1/27/2021 8:30 AM, micky wrote:

And "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Liked Posts Calling For Killing
Democratic Politicians: Reports
Many posts have been liked. Many posts have been shared. Some did not
represent my views, the newly elected Georgia Republican said."
But she Liked them even though they didn't represent her views.
That's rich.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjo...b6b8719d885347
This is the Qanon wacko from Georgia.


This is the Repub future. I believe the thinking voters will remember
what Repubs are for a loooong time.


A little more about Margie:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...g-out-control/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...-videos-325579
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I got a call at 5:30 PM today, asking if I could come in earlier than my
9PM appointment for my first shot. I had it in my arm by 6:15. My second
appointment is for Feb 23. All legally done without difficulty. How nice
it is to live in a well run Democratic state.


That is riding on the coattails from a Repub President using Warp Speed. The
new president is retracting his earlier blather.

In our Demo state we won't be seeing the vax until March or later. In fact
there isn't enough to give the second shot to initial victims. Whatta you going
to do Biden/Wolfe ?

Now back to a.h.r!

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