On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:14:12 -0600, dpb, the mentally challenged,

But it is implied if not corrected.

Implications are caused by people not reading the words correctly.

Or perhaps by leaving words out deliberately...

Or by simply being as stupid as the troll who keeps setting out stupid baits
for you, you ridiculous troll-feeding senile idiot! BG

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:20:16 -0000, Steve Walker wrote:

On 11/12/2018 00:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/12/2018 22:55, dpb wrote:
On 12/10/2018 4:29 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:12:56 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 1:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news ...

I said "We do have nuclear power stations which can and do
explode...."
You said "Wrong."

Only Fukushima exploded.
...

And that was _NOT_ a nuclear explosion but conventional hydrogen gas
(which came from decomposition of water and collected). It isn't
physically possible to create a supercritcal mass from the low-enriched
commercial reactor fuel.

But don't commercial reactors create weapons grade stuff on behalf of
the military? It's why the governments subsidise them in the first
place.

No, and no they don't subsidize commercial generation (at least
outside places like N Korea and the like).

There is no reprocessing of commercial nuclear fuel at all in the US
and afaik, none currently going on anywhere world wide outside the few
rogue states that may be doing some.

(http://www.world-nuclear.org/informa...lear-fuel.aspx)



World commercial reprocessing capacity (tonnes per year)
LWR fuel
France, La Hague 1700
UK, Sellafield (THORP) 600
Russia, Ozersk (Mayak) 400
Japan (Rokkasho) 800*
====
Total LWR (approx) 3500

I don't know about the rest, but Thorp is mo longer reprocessing and
will store spent fuel for around the next 50 years.

Or try to, until it leaks.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:01:34 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:41:17 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:55:04 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 4:29 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:12:56 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 1:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news ...

I said "We do have nuclear power stations which can and do
explode...."
You said "Wrong."

Only Fukushima exploded.
...

And that was _NOT_ a nuclear explosion but conventional hydrogen gas
(which came from decomposition of water and collected). It isn't
physically possible to create a supercritcal mass from the
low-enriched
commercial reactor fuel.

But don't commercial reactors create weapons grade stuff on behalf of
the military? It's why the governments subsidise them in the first
place.

No, and no they don't subsidize commercial generation (at least outside
places like N Korea and the like).

They do both in the UK.

Not anymore, and not for a long time now.

Or they certainly did when Margaret Thatcher was still with us.

Long time ago now.

I'm not that old am I?

Winscale was shut down in 57 after the fire.

Yet another whoops.

There is no reprocessing of commercial nuclear fuel at all in the US
and
afaik, none currently going on anywhere world wide outside the few
rogue
states that may be doing some.

Enrichment for weapons is a totally separate enterprise from commercial
nuclear power; it's a very inefficient way to do so so only those
needing to subvert other restrictions would go at it that way.

Like governments doing it secretly.

Not many do.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:51:58 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:39:29 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:57:01 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:27:52 +1100, "Tim J" wrote:



"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
...
As far as Chernobyl and Fukishama, the effects of the leaked
radiation
may never be fully known - but the FACT there will be detrimental
effects is known and accepted by anyone with hal;f a functioning
brain
cell.

Radiation - man made or man influenced or not - is KNOWN to have
health issues - as basic as increased skin cancer from extreme
exposure to sun-light.

Anything that increased our exposure to harmfull radiation SHOULD be
of concern, but risks and benefits need to be assessed and balanced.

And many don't realise that coal fired power stations put
a lot more radiation into the atmosphere than nukes do
even than 3 mile island did.
Like I said - NUKES are as safe as, or safer than, most
"conventional" alternatives

The thorium content of fly-ash constitutes an "atomic waste" with
thorium and uranium levels in crops around coal plants up to 200 times
higher than around nuke stations

Until the nuke station goes wrong.

Even when it does, 3 mile island didn't do anything special when it did
go
wrong.

What happened with Chernobyl and Fukushima is trivially
avoidable. Ensure that the stand by generators are well above
where any tsunami can get to in the case of Fukushima and
don't play silly buggers with the reactor in the case of Chernobyl.

All very well if everyone is a robot or sensible. But humans will ****
up.

Trivial to avoid them ****ing up as badly as they did at Fukushima.
Not much harder with Chernobyl.

Many things are trivial and still get done wrongly. To err is human.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:43:14 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:30:34 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:48:55 -0000, Tim J wrote:



"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:22:20 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 21:40:03 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!?

It isnt a single thermocouple, it's a thermopile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_space

Or just for some small electronics?

Not small at all.

Why are these not used on earth?

Probably not that cheap, once you've made the Pu-238.

Whatever happened to those AA nuclear batteries? I assume
they worked the same.

What on earth are you talking about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery

Not wanting to read the entire article, apart from space are we using
any
now?

Don't think so.

And eeek! Pacemakers! Don't think I like that idea.

Might be preferable to repeated surgery to change the battery tho.

Can't they charge it magnetically like with electric toothbrushes?

They can now, but didn't then.

I'm sure people with pacemakers never recharge them? Or at least only every several years, so they can't be using that much power.

Or have some kind of recharger like watches that use wrist movement (oo
er) to charge the battery?

Doesn't produce enough power for a pacemaker.
They need rather more power than a watch does.

But presumably you can put a much bigger generator inside a human body than inside a watch.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:20:16 -0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 11/12/2018 00:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/12/2018 22:55, dpb wrote:
On 12/10/2018 4:29 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:12:56 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 1:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news ...

I said "We do have nuclear power stations which can and do
explode...."
You said "Wrong."

Only Fukushima exploded.
...

And that was _NOT_ a nuclear explosion but conventional hydrogen gas
(which came from decomposition of water and collected). It isn't
physically possible to create a supercritcal mass from the
low-enriched
commercial reactor fuel.

But don't commercial reactors create weapons grade stuff on behalf of
the military? It's why the governments subsidise them in the first
place.

No, and no they don't subsidize commercial generation (at least
outside places like N Korea and the like).

There is no reprocessing of commercial nuclear fuel at all in the US
and afaik, none currently going on anywhere world wide outside the few
rogue states that may be doing some.

(http://www.world-nuclear.org/informa...lear-fuel.aspx)



World commercial reprocessing capacity (tonnes per year)
LWR fuel
France, La Hague 1700
UK, Sellafield (THORP) 600
Russia, Ozersk (Mayak) 400
Japan (Rokkasho) 800*
====
Total LWR (approx) 3500

I don't know about the rest, but Thorp is mo longer reprocessing and will
store spent fuel for around the next 50 years.

Or try to, until it leaks.

And if it does, trivial to fix that.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:51:58 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:39:29 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:57:01 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:27:52 +1100, "Tim J" wrote:



"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
...
As far as Chernobyl and Fukishama, the effects of the leaked
radiation
may never be fully known - but the FACT there will be detrimental
effects is known and accepted by anyone with hal;f a functioning
brain
cell.

Radiation - man made or man influenced or not - is KNOWN to have
health issues - as basic as increased skin cancer from extreme
exposure to sun-light.

Anything that increased our exposure to harmfull radiation SHOULD
be
of concern, but risks and benefits need to be assessed and
balanced.

And many don't realise that coal fired power stations put
a lot more radiation into the atmosphere than nukes do
even than 3 mile island did.
Like I said - NUKES are as safe as, or safer than, most
"conventional" alternatives

The thorium content of fly-ash constitutes an "atomic waste" with
thorium and uranium levels in crops around coal plants up to 200
times
higher than around nuke stations

Until the nuke station goes wrong.

Even when it does, 3 mile island didn't do anything special when it did
go
wrong.

What happened with Chernobyl and Fukushima is trivially
avoidable. Ensure that the stand by generators are well above
where any tsunami can get to in the case of Fukushima and
don't play silly buggers with the reactor in the case of Chernobyl.

All very well if everyone is a robot or sensible. But humans will ****
up.

Trivial to avoid them ****ing up as badly as they did at Fukushima.
Not much harder with Chernobyl.

Many things are trivial and still get done wrongly. To err is human.

And trivial to ensure that they don't err with something as important as a
nuke.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:43:14 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:30:34 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:48:55 -0000, Tim J wrote:



"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:22:20 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 21:40:03 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!?

It isnt a single thermocouple, it's a thermopile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_space

Or just for some small electronics?

Not small at all.

Why are these not used on earth?

Probably not that cheap, once you've made the Pu-238.

Whatever happened to those AA nuclear batteries? I assume
they worked the same.

What on earth are you talking about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery

Not wanting to read the entire article, apart from space are we using
any
now?

Don't think so.

And eeek! Pacemakers! Don't think I like that idea.

Might be preferable to repeated surgery to change the battery tho.

Can't they charge it magnetically like with electric toothbrushes?

They can now, but didn't then.

I'm sure people with pacemakers never recharge them?

Because the battery technology is much better now.

Or at least only every several years, so they can't be using that much
power.

Depends on how often it has to zap the heart.

Or have some kind of recharger like watches that use wrist movement (oo
er) to charge the battery?

Doesn't produce enough power for a pacemaker.
They need rather more power than a watch does.

But presumably you can put a much bigger generator inside a human body
than inside a watch.

Sure. But inside the chest doesn't move around as much as the
wrist. That's what determines what energy there is to harvest.

Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost, Tim
won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please kiss
and make up.
Who is clair and from which group does it post

"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost, Tim
won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please kiss
and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair
how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please kiss
and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both groups
cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.

Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)

"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.

but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

But you never see the ones that 'clare'
has stripped back to just alt.home.repair

"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what you
are talking about. I did not miss much,

True even worse than uk.d-i-y

it is not a patch on uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of
the idiots that are now infecting uk.d-i-ya)

Yep, the death squad has its order for the phucker.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:51:22 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Many things are trivial and still get done wrongly. To err is human.

And trivial to ensure that they don't err with something as important as a
nuke.

What could be more trivial than trolling driveling idiots on Usenet like the
two of you! tsk

--
FredXX to Rot Speed:
"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shippe the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
Message-ID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:12:52 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name,

Clare isn't a first name, senile idiot! tsk

--
Bill Wright to Rot Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:43:41 +1100, FMurtz, the notorious troll-feeding
senile idiot from Oz, wrote:

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)

Yeah, such as yourself and senile Rot, the two resident Ozzietards of
uk.d-i-y! Get a clue finally, you retarded Ozzies! tsk

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:59:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what you
are talking about. I did not miss much,

True even worse than uk.d-i-y

Indeed, escpecially as you've started infesting ahr recently, you ****ed up
senile Ozzie cretin!

--
dennis@home to know-it-all Rot Speed:
"You really should stop commenting on things you know nothing about."
Message-ID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:44:05 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please kiss
and make up.

Oh I say! Can we?

What a bunch of brain dead idiots! LOL

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:50:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,


And if it does, trivial to fix that.

Not as trivial to fix as you leaking incontinent senile geezer spreading his
**** on all these groups!

--
"Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed:
"You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad
little ignorant ****."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:42:29 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,


Which of course doesn't actually make things cheap. Just hides the cost.

Your senile hermetically glued to the unwashed Scottish ******'s cock again,
senile Dim? BG

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:48:07 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:

But what about the spent fuel that cannot be disposed of without a 300 year
sealed container?

What about it?

You just CAN'T get enough of the Scottish ******'s cock, eh, senile Dim? You
know that he's reported to be of the smelly, unwashed kind? Of course YOU
would know it! LOL

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:58:49 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

I'm sure people with pacemakers never recharge them?

Because the battery technology is much better now.

Post PROOF that pacemakers can now be charged "magnetically", you driveling
senile idiot! You obviously completely misunderstood what the "magnetic
mode" in a pacemaker means! LOL

--
pamela about Rot Speed:
"His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:43:41 -0000, FMurtz wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)

The average American IQ is two points lower than the UK.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:48:07 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:08:51 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:

Nukes in fact put far less radiation into the
atmosphere than coal fired power stations.

But what about the spent fuel that cannot be disposed of without a 300 year
sealed container?

What about it?

That's what causes the most harm (note I'm not saying Nuclear power is bad, it's cleaner than others).

What about the cost of rebuilding everything?

Rebuilding what? As it happens, the Fukushima plant was due to be
closed within 6 months of the incident anyway - end of life.

And no damage was caused by the reactors. All the damage was from the
tsunami, which caused some 25,000 deaths. Perhaps you should be
concerned about that.

What about the damage to wildlife?

What damage to wildlife?

Radiation will do that.

It didn't with Chernobyl or 3 mile island or Fukushima.

It's claimed sheep in Scotland were affected by Chernobyl.

What d'ye mean by "affected"? And claimed by whom?

I dunno, it was decades ago. Possibly some absurd food safety standards group telling the farmers to burn all the sheep instead of eating them or something.

And, for your information, you should look up "deaths from ordinary
industrial accidents", you'll find the numbers to be much larger.

Only if you take the numbers too literally like you do.

Why shouldn't I take them literally?

Because you're not taking into account other significant problems.

There are no other significant problems.

Cancer is a damn big problem.

Nothing new there, then.

It's one thing having cancer caused by cigarettes. You can choose not to smoke. But you can't choose not to pick up **** from nuclear power stations.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:44:05 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost, Tim won't
see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please kiss
and make up.

Oh I say! Can we?

Warning, she's Canadian.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:42:29 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:32:47 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:12:56 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 1:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news ...

I said "We do have nuclear power stations which can and do explode...."
You said "Wrong."

Only Fukushima exploded.
...

And that was _NOT_ a nuclear explosion but conventional hydrogen gas
(which came from decomposition of water and collected). It isn't
physically possible to create a supercritcal mass from the low-enriched
commercial reactor fuel.

But don't commercial reactors create weapons grade stuff on behalf of the
military?

Nope, the stuff used in bombs is made in specific purpose nukes.

It's why the governments subsidise them in the first place.

Why the govt paid for them, yep.

Something in the power stations is required to make weapons. It may only be
the first step I'm not sure, but the subsidies were for weapons, not "cheap"
power. It's the same **** again now claiming solar is cheap. It's only cheap
when the greenie subsidies come in.

Which of course doesn't actually make things cheap. Just hides the cost.

Exactly. I (used to, not sure if it's still there) be able to choose different tarriffs from EDF (my power company) as to whether I wanted to fund green power or not. I always chose nuclear, mainly because it was cheaper for me.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:58:49 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:43:14 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:30:34 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:48:55 -0000, Tim J wrote:



"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:22:20 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 21:40:03 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!?

It isnt a single thermocouple, it's a thermopile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_space

Or just for some small electronics?

Not small at all.

Why are these not used on earth?

Probably not that cheap, once you've made the Pu-238.

Whatever happened to those AA nuclear batteries? I assume
they worked the same.

What on earth are you talking about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery

Not wanting to read the entire article, apart from space are we using
any
now?

Don't think so.

And eeek! Pacemakers! Don't think I like that idea.

Might be preferable to repeated surgery to change the battery tho.

Can't they charge it magnetically like with electric toothbrushes?

They can now, but didn't then.

I'm sure people with pacemakers never recharge them?

Because the battery technology is much better now.

I was thinking of people I knew 30 years ago.

Or at least only every several years, so they can't be using that much
power.

Depends on how often it has to zap the heart.

Does it output a constant tick or does it only do something when it detects an abnormal heart rhythm?

Or have some kind of recharger like watches that use wrist movement (oo
er) to charge the battery?

Doesn't produce enough power for a pacemaker.
They need rather more power than a watch does.

But presumably you can put a much bigger generator inside a human body
than inside a watch.

Sure. But inside the chest doesn't move around as much as the
wrist. That's what determines what energy there is to harvest.

I guess they could run a wire along to your arm or something.

Anyway I'm not so sure you're right. If your walking around, your whole body moves. And in the chest they can have a much larger generator. Something inside a watch is miniscule compared to something in your torso which could presumably approach the size of a fist.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:51:22 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:51:58 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:39:29 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:57:01 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:27:52 +1100, "Tim J" wrote:



"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
...
As far as Chernobyl and Fukishama, the effects of the leaked
radiation
may never be fully known - but the FACT there will be detrimental
effects is known and accepted by anyone with hal;f a functioning
brain
cell.

Radiation - man made or man influenced or not - is KNOWN to have
health issues - as basic as increased skin cancer from extreme
exposure to sun-light.

Anything that increased our exposure to harmfull radiation SHOULD
be
of concern, but risks and benefits need to be assessed and
balanced.

And many don't realise that coal fired power stations put
a lot more radiation into the atmosphere than nukes do
even than 3 mile island did.
Like I said - NUKES are as safe as, or safer than, most
"conventional" alternatives

The thorium content of fly-ash constitutes an "atomic waste" with
thorium and uranium levels in crops around coal plants up to 200
times
higher than around nuke stations

Until the nuke station goes wrong.

Even when it does, 3 mile island didn't do anything special when it did
go
wrong.

What happened with Chernobyl and Fukushima is trivially
avoidable. Ensure that the stand by generators are well above
where any tsunami can get to in the case of Fukushima and
don't play silly buggers with the reactor in the case of Chernobyl.

All very well if everyone is a robot or sensible. But humans will ****
up.

Trivial to avoid them ****ing up as badly as they did at Fukushima.
Not much harder with Chernobyl.

Many things are trivial and still get done wrongly. To err is human.

And trivial to ensure that they don't err with something as important as a
nuke.

Only as long as you have almost all sensible people working there. It only takes a couple to skip some checks.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:50:07 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:20:16 -0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 11/12/2018 00:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/12/2018 22:55, dpb wrote:
On 12/10/2018 4:29 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:12:56 -0000, dpb wrote:

On 12/10/2018 1:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news ...

I said "We do have nuclear power stations which can and do
explode...."
You said "Wrong."

Only Fukushima exploded.
...

And that was _NOT_ a nuclear explosion but conventional hydrogen gas
(which came from decomposition of water and collected). It isn't
physically possible to create a supercritcal mass from the
low-enriched
commercial reactor fuel.

But don't commercial reactors create weapons grade stuff on behalf of
the military? It's why the governments subsidise them in the first
place.

No, and no they don't subsidize commercial generation (at least
outside places like N Korea and the like).

There is no reprocessing of commercial nuclear fuel at all in the US
and afaik, none currently going on anywhere world wide outside the few
rogue states that may be doing some.

(http://www.world-nuclear.org/informa...lear-fuel.aspx)



World commercial reprocessing capacity (tonnes per year)
LWR fuel
France, La Hague 1700
UK, Sellafield (THORP) 600
Russia, Ozersk (Mayak) 400
Japan (Rokkasho) 800*
====
Total LWR (approx) 3500

I don't know about the rest, but Thorp is mo longer reprocessing and will
store spent fuel for around the next 50 years.

Or try to, until it leaks.

And if it does, trivial to fix that.

Too late then. And also expensive, especially if it's at the bottom of the ocean.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:51:16 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:

It's one thing having cancer caused by cigarettes. You can choose not to
smoke. But you can't choose not to pick up **** from nuclear power stations.

Now now, you're making implications again. This time that nukes
routinely put out stuff.

There is no such "****".

You cocksucking senile gob hermetically glued to the unwashed Scottish
******'s cock again, Dim? Of COURSE, it is ...like EVERY day! It's obviously
a senile thing! G

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:51:16 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:48:07 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:08:51 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Nukes in fact put far less radiation into the
atmosphere than coal fired power stations.

But what about the spent fuel that cannot be disposed of without a 300 year
sealed container?

What about it?

That's what causes the most harm (note I'm not saying Nuclear power is bad,
it's cleaner than others).

It doesn't cause any harm: it's in sealed containers.

Which never break over 100s of years when the company is bankrupt and the government has changed and a war broke out and there was an earthquake, yeah right.

It's claimed sheep in Scotland were affected by Chernobyl.

What d'ye mean by "affected"? And claimed by whom?

I dunno, it was decades ago. Possibly some absurd food safety standards group
telling the farmers to burn all the sheep instead of eating them or something.

And, for your information, you should look up "deaths from ordinary
industrial accidents", you'll find the numbers to be much larger.

Only if you take the numbers too literally like you do.

Why shouldn't I take them literally?

Because you're not taking into account other significant problems.

There are no other significant problems.

Cancer is a damn big problem.

Nothing new there, then.

It's one thing having cancer caused by cigarettes. You can choose not to
smoke. But you can't choose not to pick up **** from nuclear power stations.

Now now, you're making implications again. This time that nukes
routinely put out stuff.

There is no such "****".

I didn't say routinely, you're making assumptions again.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:25:47 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

Short for Clarence - Retired former Auto Mechanic, teacher, and
computer tech - brought up on farm and in small Ontario town. Spent
several years teaching in Africa. Hobbies include restoring cars,
building airplane, radio/electronics, Rallye driver, woodwork and home
repair. Worked with electrician father in teen years.

I don't filter crossposts and post from alt.home.repair using Agent
news reader.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair
how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:43:41 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)
You mean like UK.D-I-Y is infecting alt.home.repair???

On 09/12/2018 16:40, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!?* Or just for
some small electronics?


On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 21:04:59 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

I'm sure you know this but the Voyager spacecraft are using thermocouples
using the heat from decaying plutonium for power all the way out in the
cosmos. it may be reducing now but its been one heck of a long time.
*Brian

He didn't say to power the spacecraft he said 'for power'.

Bill

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:40:25 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:25:47 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the crosspost,
Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is only in
uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

Short for Clarence

Sorry but Clare is a girls name. Clarence is an old fashioned boys name, sounds a bit gay, but still, you should use that instead to avoid confusion.

- Retired former Auto Mechanic, teacher, and
computer tech - brought up on farm and in small Ontario town. Spent
several years teaching in Africa. Hobbies include restoring cars,
building airplane, radio/electronics, Rallye driver, woodwork and home
repair. Worked with electrician father in teen years.

I don't filter crossposts and post from alt.home.repair using Agent
news reader.

Agent has the ability to leave the newsgroup line alone, why are you editing it with every post? You say you don't FILTER crossposts, but you're certainly removing them, meaning most of the brits will never see your reply, so you're wasting your own time.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair
how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:41:53 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:43:41 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)
You mean like UK.D-I-Y is infecting alt.home.repair???

I don't see the problem. Some posts may be country specific but most aren't.

Mind you, uk.d-i-y clearly says *UK* in the title. alt.home.repair doesn't have a country name so is worldwide.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:56:12 -0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 09/12/2018 16:40, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!? Or just for
some small electronics?


On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 21:04:59 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

I'm sure you know this but the Voyager spacecraft are using thermocouples
using the heat from decaying plutonium for power all the way out in the
cosmos. it may be reducing now but its been one heck of a long time.
Brian

He didn't say to power the spacecraft he said 'for power'.

So it moves by magic then?