On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:57:22 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Until there's a problem.

- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:25:00 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


We shorten

There's NO "we" for you, senie Ozzie cretin! NOBODY identifies with an
obnoxious senile creep like you ...which is the very reason why you need to
troll on Usenet where people can't as easily get away from you as in real
life!

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:42:37 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Its no good arguing with the Kernel, he is a troll and a comedian, but not
really interested in any discussion about facts.
Brian

He's not even a real Colon or a real vet. Well, he is a colon, I
suppose.

- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:44:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Problem is

Problem is that BOTH of you are endlessly driveling FULL-TIME idiots!

--
Java Jive to senile Rot:
You're getting there, it's clear that you've now reached the level of
"Nyah nyah nanyah nyah!", but surely you can be even more juvenile than
that?
MID:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:26:34 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


It moves by the ****ing great rocket that put it there.

Your senile gob is simply moved by your senility, eh, senile Rot? LOL

--
Bill Wright to Rot Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:48:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Nope.

LOL

Nope.

LOL

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:53:36 +0100, Foreskin Peeler
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:11:43 +0000 (GMT), charles, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

My boiler - with pilot light - was installed 30 years ago - by myself.

Are you or are aren't you aware who you are talking to, you senile sucker of
troll cock? G

Are you or are aren't [sic][SIC!!! LOL] you aware that you're, an
inane banal one-dimensional foreskin peeling Grik piece, of skata who
repeats the same, old stilted non-colloquial pidgin English ****e day
after, day month after, month year after, year after century you
obsessed demented peeler of troll foreskin? GB

- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID:

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:51:22 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:51:58 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:39:29 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:57:01 -0000, Clare Snyder

wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:27:52 +1100, "Tim J"
wrote:



"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
...
As far as Chernobyl and Fukishama, the effects of the leaked
radiation
may never be fully known - but the FACT there will be detrimental
effects is known and accepted by anyone with hal;f a functioning
brain
cell.

Radiation - man made or man influenced or not - is KNOWN to have
health issues - as basic as increased skin cancer from extreme
exposure to sun-light.

Anything that increased our exposure to harmfull radiation SHOULD
be
of concern, but risks and benefits need to be assessed and
balanced.

And many don't realise that coal fired power stations put
a lot more radiation into the atmosphere than nukes do
even than 3 mile island did.
Like I said - NUKES are as safe as, or safer than, most
"conventional" alternatives

The thorium content of fly-ash constitutes an "atomic waste" with
thorium and uranium levels in crops around coal plants up to 200
times
higher than around nuke stations

Until the nuke station goes wrong.

Even when it does, 3 mile island didn't do anything special when it
did
go
wrong.

What happened with Chernobyl and Fukushima is trivially
avoidable. Ensure that the stand by generators are well above
where any tsunami can get to in the case of Fukushima and
don't play silly buggers with the reactor in the case of Chernobyl.

All very well if everyone is a robot or sensible. But humans will
****
up.

Trivial to avoid them ****ing up as badly as they did at Fukushima.
Not much harder with Chernobyl.

Many things are trivial and still get done wrongly. To err is human.

And trivial to ensure that they don't err with something as important as
a
nuke.

Only as long as you have almost all sensible people working there.

Don't need anything like that.

It only takes a couple to skip some checks.

And trivial to ensure that they can't get away with that.

And that's not what caused TMI, Chernobyl and Fukushima anyway.

Clare Snyder posted for all of us...



On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:43:41 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
* Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

*There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you.* That's why he was confused.* Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.* Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)
You mean like UK.D-I-Y is infecting alt.home.repair???

I wish I could figure out a filter to get eliminate this bunch. It seems to
be infested by a bunch of limey trollers. I do not remember a valid post
from them.

--
Tekkie

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:15:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Don't need anything like that.

What you need is to get a coffin soon, you 85-year-old, senile cretin! LOL

--
Java Jive to senile Rot:
You're getting there, it's clear that you've now reached the level of
"Nyah nyah nanyah nyah!", but surely you can be even more juvenile than
that?
MID:

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:44:25 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:39:17 -0000, Max Demian
wrote:

On 11/12/2018 17:23, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:56:12 -0000, Bill Wright

wrote:
On 09/12/2018 16:40, Bruce Farquhar wrote:

A thermocouple produces enough to power a spacecraft?!? Or just for
some small electronics?

On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 21:04:59 -0000, Brian Gaff
wrote:

I'm sure you know this but the Voyager spacecraft are using
thermocouples
using the heat from decaying plutonium for power all the way out in
the
cosmos. it may be reducing now but its been one heck of a long
time.
Brian

He didn't say to power the spacecraft he said 'for power'.

So it moves by magic then?

Very few spacecraft are electrically powered.

Whatever they're powered by should be able to give off some electricity,

Problem is that they are powered by the ****ing great rocket
that is now quite some distance away from the satellite now.

like a petrol car does.

Nothing like a petrol car does.

So they don't have any manoeuvring thrusters?

Yes, but those don't generate electricity.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:05:28 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedo", farted again:

Its no good arguing with the Kernel, he is a troll and a comedian, but not
really interested in any discussion about facts.
Brian

He's not even a real Colon or a real vet. Well, he is a colon, I
suppose.

Let's get this strait, Miss Recktum: NOBODY could ever be as big an asshole
as you are! NOBODY! And you KNOW it! BG

--
Dumb anal Razovic about herself:
"I¢m King of the skatologists"
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"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:47:28 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:38:46 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:43:41 -0000, FMurtz
wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce
Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear
Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to
teach
the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim
is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once.
Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had
both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y
listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found
what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that
are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)

The average American IQ is two points lower than the UK.

That's due to demographics, they have a much higher
percentage of blacks and hispanics than the UK does
and they have lower IQs.

Just watch white Americans on TV, they're all thick as **** too.

Ken Burns isnt.

We were discussing AVERAGE IQ.

Watching white americans on TV doesn't tell you that, stupid.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot
light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit
in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more
and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Because it's a safety device which doesn't get used until something fails.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:03:33 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedo", farted again:

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is. Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought. Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

If you are being anal, you are kinda right, Miss Recktum! But then, you are
the INCARNATION of anality! LOL

--
Anal Razovic's motto:
"An enema for every constipated anus."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:04:33 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein dba Barry Z. Shein
)", farted again:


Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Until there's a problem.

Your problem is, always was and always will be, your pathological ANALITY,
Miss Recktum! But then, you are "famous" for it ...and you are "proud" of
it, right poor psychotic little idiot? LOL

--
Shadow about anal Razovic:
"Not forgetting that her asshole is bigger than her brain."
MID: . com

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 12:10:57 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedo", farted again:

Are you or are aren't you aware who you are talking to, you senile sucker of
troll cock? G

Are you or are aren't [sic][SIC!!! LOL] you aware that you're, an
inane banal one-dimensional foreskin peeling Grik piece, of skata who
repeats the same, old stilted non-colloquial pidgin English ****e day
after, day month after, month year after, year after century you
obsessed demented peeler of troll foreskin? GB

ROTFLOL!!! I LOVE it when you can't hide your desperation, you bleeding
psychotic ****!

--
Michael about anal Razovic:
"The Peeler completely dominates him."
MID

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:33:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 113 lines of the two prize idiots' absolutely idiotic
bull****

--
Another TYPICAL retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rot:

Senile Rot: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own ****?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rot: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the ****."

MID:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:31:57 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH another load of the two abormal idiots' idiotic drivel

--
Typical retarded "conversation" between the Scottish ****** and senile
Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse **** doesn't stink."

Senile Rot: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky ****, but then why does vegetarian human **** stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rot: "Nope, some cow **** stinks too."

Message-ID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:03:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:01:49 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit in 20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I purposefully avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more and are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is. Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought. Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

Zero is zero. If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will function the same.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:34:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Because it's a safety device which doesn't get used until something fails.

Are we talking about your brain again, senile Rot? LOL

--
Bill Wright to Rot Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:04:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:57:22 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Until there's a problem.

Depends on the problem. If I touch something live, I'd rather not have another part of me resting against an earthed appliance.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:27:25 -0000, Tekkie® wrote:

Clare Snyder posted for all of us...



On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:43:41 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

FMurtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:


"FMurtz" wrote in message
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Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:59:37 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 21:20:02 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:09:27 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

What damage was directly caused by the Fukushima Nuclear Power
Station?

See Clare's reply to you, I can't be bothered teaching the
ignorant.

Who's she?
Not she - He. Me.

As a former teacher I've had lots of experience trying to teach the
unteachable.

There are some that are not worth TRYING to teach.

If you persist in deleting one of the newsgroups from the
crosspost, Tim won't see you. That's why he was confused. Tim is
only in uk.d-i-y.

Crosspost returned so you'll at least see each other once. Please
kiss and make up.

Who is clair

An ex canadian school teacher with a rural background.
It's a he not a she. Not clear why he uses that name, whether
its his wife etc. Presumably he isnt a drag queen or tranny.

and from which group does it post

alt.home.repair

how come all the posts back a fair way in this thread have had both
groups cross and I have seen no clair or uk.d-i-y removed?

Because 'clare' keeps chopping uk.d-i-y from the
newsgroup list and that's where you are reading.
but all the posts I am seeing have alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y listed

I just went back in time, subscribed to alt.home.repair and found what
you are talking about. I did not miss much, it is not a patch on
uk.d-i-y (at least what it used to be)(it is full of the idiots that are
now infecting uk.d-i-y)
You mean like UK.D-I-Y is infecting alt.home.repair???

I wish I could figure out a filter to get eliminate this bunch. It seems to
be infested by a bunch of limey trollers. I do not remember a valid post
from them.

Americans can't figure out anything. Most of the rest of the world can operate a killfile.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:34:14 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot
light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit
in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more
and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Because it's a safety device which doesn't get used until something fails.

It's joined directly to neutral in my house, by the electricity board, just next to the meter.

On 11/12/2018 20:10, jew pedo wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:53:36 +0100, Foreskin Peeler
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:11:43 +0000 (GMT), charles, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

My boiler - with pilot light - was installed 30 years ago - by myself.

Are you or are aren't you aware who you are talking to, you senile sucker of
troll cock? G

Are you or are aren't [sic][SIC!!! LOL] you aware that you're, an
inane banal one-dimensional foreskin peeling Grik piece, of skata who.
repeats the same, old stilted non-colloquial pidgin English ****e day
after, day month after, month year after, year after century you
obsessed demented peeler of troll foreskin? GB


Of course he isn't aware because he's an inane banal one-dimensional
foreskin peeling Grik piece of skata, who repeats the same old stilted
non-colloquial pidgin English ****e, day after day, month after month,
year after, year after century.

Give the **** some credit for being a cretin.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:17:40 +0000, Steve Pounder, a "new" blathering idiot,
blabbered:


Give the **** some credit for being a cretin.

Says the cretin to the cretin! BG

On 11/12/2018 20:56, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:03:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:01:49 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the
heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the
house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how
does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage
(40mV?) and current from the thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced much beyond the 1500s.* We superior Americans, however,
employ the use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers.* But our stuff must last longer
because a lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only
ones that don't are the morons that thought they should spend
£1000 to get a boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas.* So
you make a profit in 20 years time, why bother?* My boiler is at
least 25 years old and I've only ever replaced the thermocouple
for £7.* It could be newer fancier boilers have more to go wrong,
I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I
would tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies.* I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means
they charge more and are more fussy and won't do the work the way I
want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.* Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought.* Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

Zero is zero.* If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will
function the same.

Neutral is not necessarily zero though! Earth and neutral may be bonded
together at one or more points; the neutral may be earthed at the
distribution point and the live be part of a 3-phase delta arrangement;
the neutral may be the star point of a 3-phase star arrangement and may
or may not be earthed at all; or it could even be a bi-phase supply.

SteveW

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:35:57 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:


We've never had dog licenses. We may have had dog licences, however, at
some point.

I'm pretty sure kensi has one on that collar
she wears around her neck.

snicker

--

Yours Truly,
Gregøry Hall

"Everybody here likes him" --PeeScent

On 2018-12-11 2:35 p.m., Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:39:00 -0000, % % wrote:

On 2018-12-11 10:29 a.m., Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced
much beyond the 1500s.Â* We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers.Â* But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas.Â* So you make a profit in
20 years time, why bother?Â* My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7.Â* It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell
you about that.

you need a dog license to look like that

They haven't had dog licenses in the UK for decades.Â* Don't tell
me America still does?

We've never had dog licenses. We may have had dog licences, however, at
some point.

i'm not in america so i don't know what they do , don't want to either

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:37:04 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:18:12 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:51:16 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:48:07 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:08:51 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Nukes in fact put far less radiation into the
atmosphere than coal fired power stations.

But what about the spent fuel that cannot be disposed of without a 300
year
sealed container?

What about it?

That's what causes the most harm (note I'm not saying Nuclear power is
bad,
it's cleaner than others).

It doesn't cause any harm: it's in sealed containers.

Which never break over 100s of years when the company is bankrupt and the
government has changed and a war broke out and there was an earthquake, yeah
right.

Under those circs the status of the underground repository is the least
of your worries.

Rubbish. The war might not directly affect me, but the nuclear fallout would.

Why d'ye think I suggest the Marianna Trench? Cos down there 37,000
feet below sea level, it ain't gonna matter.

Yeah, bugger the sea life. Bugger all those who eat the radioactive fish.

What fish would those be then, at 37,000 feet below sea level?

Is nuclear waste heavier than water then? And immune to currents?

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:37:19 -0000, Steve Walker wrote:

On 11/12/2018 20:56, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:03:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:01:49 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the
heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the
house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how
does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage
(40mV?) and current from the thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however,
employ the use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer
because a lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only
ones that don't are the morons that thought they should spend
£1000 to get a boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas.. So
you make a profit in 20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at
least 25 years old and I've only ever replaced the thermocouple
for £7. It could be newer fancier boilers have more to go wrong,
I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I
would tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means
they charge more and are more fussy and won't do the work the way I
want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is. Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought. Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

Zero is zero. If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will
function the same.

Neutral is not necessarily zero though! Earth and neutral may be bonded
together at one or more points; the neutral may be earthed at the
distribution point

As it is here. Two wires enter my house, 0V and 240V. The 0V branches to earth and neutral rails in the fusebox before going around the house. Therefore, apart from a slight resistance of neutral when under heavy load making neutral creep up to maybe 2 or 3V, it's the same potential.

and the live be part of a 3-phase delta arrangement;
the neutral may be the star point of a 3-phase star arrangement and may
or may not be earthed at all

On the HV national distribution side perhaps. But in someone's home that is not the case.

or it could even be a bi-phase supply.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:35:57 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:39:00 -0000, % % wrote:

On 2018-12-11 10:29 a.m., Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would tell
you about that.

you need a dog license to look like that

They haven't had dog licenses in the UK for decades. Don't tell
me America still does?

We've never had dog licenses. We may have had dog licences, however, at
some point.

I've never been a sad obsessive boring **** who cares about minor spelling infractions, you however still continue to be so. I bet you go to confession if you dare to drive 30.0000001 mph in a built up area.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:45:02 -0000, % % wrote:

On 2018-12-11 2:35 p.m., Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:39:00 -0000, % % wrote:

On 2018-12-11 10:29 a.m., Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell
you about that.

you need a dog license to look like that

They haven't had dog licenses in the UK for decades. Don't tell
me America still does?

We've never had dog licenses. We may have had dog licences, however, at
some point.

i'm not in america so i don't know what they do , don't want to either

They give the dog permission to lick your face.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:37:04 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:



What fish would those be then, at 37,000 feet below sea level?

What kind of senile idiot would that be who takes EVERY SINGLE idiotic bait
the Scottish ****** sets our for him, eh, senile Dim? BG

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:16:44 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:


Is nuclear waste heavier than water then? And immune to currents?

Once it's been glassified and encased in steel/concrete it is. Which is

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!! The stupid troll sets out some stupid bait, this senile Brit
will take it, EVERY single time! LMAO

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:37:19 +0000, Steve ******, an especiall mentally
handicapped, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Zero is zero.* If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will
function the same.

Neutral is not necessarily zero though! Earth and neutral may be bonded

A troll is ALWAYS a troll though, senile Steve ******, and even a senile
troll-feeding idiot like you will eventually have to learn it!

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:35:57 +0000, Dim Streater, an especially retarded,
troll-feeding, troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:


They haven't had dog licenses in the UK for decades. Don't tell
me America still does?

We've never had dog licenses. We may have had dog licences, however, at
some point.

You STILL don't get what's going in here, you pitiable troll-feeding senile
oaf? ****ing unbelievable! LOL

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:03:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:01:49 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot
light valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current
from the thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however,
employ the use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a profit
in 20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old
and I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be
newer fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern
boiler lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they
charge more and are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want
it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is. Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought. Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

Zero is zero.

Wrong, as always. And the neutral isnt always zero.

If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will function the same.

Wrong with the safety protection.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:04:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:57:22 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is
warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot
light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from
the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ
the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because
a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a
profit in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be
newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern
boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more
and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Until there's a problem.

Depends on the problem. If I touch something live, I'd rather not have
another part of me resting against an earthed appliance.

Yes, you actually are that stupid.

"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:34:14 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:48:45 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating
isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is
warm
enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot
light
valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from
the
thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced
much beyond the 1500s. We superior Americans, however, employ
the
use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers. But our stuff must last longer because
a
lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only ones that
don't are the morons that thought they should spend £1000 to get a
boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas. So you make a
profit
in
20 years time, why bother? My boiler is at least 25 years old and
I've only ever replaced the thermocouple for £7. It could be
newer
fancier boilers have more to go wrong, I've heard of a modern
boiler
lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I would
tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies. I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully
avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means they charge more
and
are more fussy and won't do the work the way I want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.

Nope.

Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

Nope. There are 3 pins for a reason, stupid.

Funny how the devices all work with the top one disconnected.

Because it's a safety device which doesn't get used until something
fails.

It's joined directly to neutral in my house, by the electricity board,
just next to the meter.

And that connection never fails ? Yeah, right.