On 11/12/2018 20:56, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 20:03:33 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:01:49 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:46:24 -0000, jew pedo wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:31:28 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:29:18 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:04:22 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/8/2018 8:41 AM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the
heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the
house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how
does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage
(40mV?) and current from the thermocouple?


The basic problem with english engineering is that it hasn't
advanced much beyond the 1500s.* We superior Americans, however,
employ the use of electronic ignitors.

As do we with new boilers.* But our stuff must last longer
because a lot of folk still have one with a pilot light, the only
ones that don't are the morons that thought they should spend
£1000 to get a boiler that will save them £50 a year on gas.* So
you make a profit in 20 years time, why bother?* My boiler is at
least 25 years old and I've only ever replaced the thermocouple
for £7.* It could be newer fancier boilers have more to go wrong,
I've heard of a modern boiler lasting only 7 years!!

If you don't know what that is, see one of my recent poasts
concerning the pigtailing of neutral and ground circuits.

What has pigtailing to do with electronic igniters?

You'd need an electrician's license to even comprehend what I
would tell you about that.

Licenses are for pussies.* I just prefer to get on with the job.

IF I ever hire anyone (and usually I do all my own work), I
purposefully avoid anyone with any certifications, it just means
they charge more and are more fussy and won't do the work the way I
want it.

Colon Burke is the idiot who said the top pin of a 3-pin plug was for
neutral.

Technically it is.* Earth = neutral = 0 volts.

That's what that idiot KKKoloon thought.* Neutral is not the same as
Earth (aka Ground in the Great Satan).

Zero is zero.* If I connect my desk lamp to live and earth, it will
function the same.

Neutral is not necessarily zero though! Earth and neutral may be bonded
together at one or more points; the neutral may be earthed at the
distribution point and the live be part of a 3-phase delta arrangement;
the neutral may be the star point of a 3-phase star arrangement and may
or may not be earthed at all; or it could even be a bi-phase supply.

SteveW