On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:42:54 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 4/13/2017 12:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 11:51:23 AM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

You obviously just don't get it. Suggest you take a course in
microeconomics.

And you take one in humanity.


I feel for the UAL employees, the cops and the other passengers that
had to put up with this one asshole.


United apologized for their ERROR. The policemen involved have
been suspended and face charges of battery.

Yeah, they have to throw someone under the bus. Let's see it
they get convicted. I predict the charges will be quietly dropped.
BTW, were you there? Did you see how much force they used, what
they did, what the cop did? Remember "hands up, don't shoot"?

And sure UAL apologized. Where is the apology from the asshole
for his part of what happened?




United lost millions, but didn't lose more because of the
virtual monopoly they hold in Chicago (thanks Reagan).

Really, show us the accounting for that.


And an elderly person was beaten and is still in hospital.

ROFL. Sure, he's still there, extending his stay to make it look
as bad as possible, for his big pay day.


Who
or what race he is has NOTHING to do with the subject. He was a
passenger.


Race? Of course not. But that he's a convicted felon who
was sentenced apparently to include anger management certainly is
an issue. A big part of anger management is learning how to not
turn things we all encounter frequently in life into flaming,
escalating, big blow ups. And a big part of being a felon is that
it shows a pre-existing disregard for authority, the law, etc.


LMAO! Of course, you're correct (along with T and S) and everyone else
is wrong. It wouldn't have happened if United handled it better.

It also wouldn't have happened if the passenger had handled it better.


It is
their fault, they did admit that, they expect charges against officers,
blah blah blah but that still isn't enough for you. At least they can
admit when wrong unlike many other self-righteous people.

Has the passenger manned up and admitted that he behaved badly?

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 2:17:48 PM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:30:22 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:56:58 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 4/13/2017 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

You obviously just don't get it. Suggest you take a course in
microeconomics.

And you take one in humanity.

United apologized for their ERROR. The policemen involved have
been suspended and face charges of battery.
United lost millions, but didn't lose more because of the
virtual monopoly they hold in Chicago (thanks Reagan).
And an elderly person was beaten and is still in hospital. Who
or what race he is has NOTHING to do with the subject. He was a
passenger.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/file/...airlines11.jpg
[]'s


Elderly person was NOT "beaten". I doubt he is still in the hospital,

Ah, another doctor here in the group that recognizes a
classical case of spontaneous mouth and nose bleed. Gratz.

O sht, we BOTH mistook the diagnosis. Thank dog he can't sue
us !!!
He suffered concussion, lost two teeth and had a fracture to
his nasal bones and maxillary sinus and will need reconstructive
surgery.
That is the official hospital report.

United claims that since he was almost 70, bones break easily,
so maybe they didn't kick him that hard after all. If he was a 5 year
old child he probably would have just bounced along the tarmac.

So I agree with Trader, in a police state you get what you
deserve, even if you don't deserve it.
Long live the Trumpet !!!!
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

UAL didn't kick or even touch the guy. It was the airport police.
If you ran a hardware store, told a customer to leave, get off
your property, he refused, you called the cops, he refused to
comply with them and they wound up beating him up, is that
your fault?

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 8:09:12 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 4/13/2017 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:37:25 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:34:15 -0400, wrote:

He fell mouth first into an armrest

That was one report. At least he didn't "fall up the stairs."

There is a real good video of the fall that ran on NBC news tonight.
He was holding onto a seat on the starboard side and when they pulled
him, he twisted around and landed on a port side aisle arm rest, face
first.



that is not a beating.

+1

Clearly they should have handled him differently. But if he
was resisting, holding on to a seat, they pull him, he finally
let's go and goes flying, that isn't the police beating him up.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:59:23 AM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message
news
On 4/13/2017 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:37:25 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:34:15 -0400, wrote:

He fell mouth first into an armrest

That was one report. At least he didn't "fall up the stairs."

There is a real good video of the fall that ran on NBC news tonight.
He was holding onto a seat on the starboard side and when they pulled
him, he twisted around and landed on a port side aisle arm rest, face
first.



that is not a beating.

Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.

It does matter when the cops are accused of beating him and
people are claiming they have been or will be criminally charged.
It also matters with regard to a civil case. You don't see
a difference in a damage award to someone like Rodney King,
deliberately beaten by the cops while not resisting and someone
like the doc, who is resisting, clinging onto a seat, winds up
smashing into another seat because the cops are trying to pull
him out because he won't go?

On 4/14/2017 8:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:42:54 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 4/13/2017 12:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 11:51:23 AM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

You obviously just don't get it. Suggest you take a course in
microeconomics.

And you take one in humanity.


I feel for the UAL employees, the cops and the other passengers that
had to put up with this one asshole.


United apologized for their ERROR. The policemen involved have
been suspended and face charges of battery.

Yeah, they have to throw someone under the bus. Let's see it
they get convicted. I predict the charges will be quietly dropped.
BTW, were you there? Did you see how much force they used, what
they did, what the cop did? Remember "hands up, don't shoot"?

And sure UAL apologized. Where is the apology from the asshole
for his part of what happened?




United lost millions, but didn't lose more because of the
virtual monopoly they hold in Chicago (thanks Reagan).

Really, show us the accounting for that.


And an elderly person was beaten and is still in hospital.

ROFL. Sure, he's still there, extending his stay to make it look
as bad as possible, for his big pay day.


Who
or what race he is has NOTHING to do with the subject. He was a
passenger.


Race? Of course not. But that he's a convicted felon who
was sentenced apparently to include anger management certainly is
an issue. A big part of anger management is learning how to not
turn things we all encounter frequently in life into flaming,
escalating, big blow ups. And a big part of being a felon is that
it shows a pre-existing disregard for authority, the law, etc.


LMAO! Of course, you're correct (along with T and S) and everyone else
is wrong. It wouldn't have happened if United handled it better.

It also wouldn't have happened if the passenger had handled it better.


you can trace it all the way back to Orville and Wilbur.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:52:34 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:00:26 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:




that is not a beating.

Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.

If the flight leader had just got on the intercom and announced "We
can push back until that jerk in 22 D gets his ass off this plane" the
passengers would have kicked his ass and threw him onto the jetway.

Then he would sue UAL for not keeping him safe.

On 4/14/2017 9:39 AM, Dr. Jason Bull wrote:
On 4/14/2017 8:51 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
Mike wrote:

When you find yourself at odds with the law, comply peacefully with
their
requests.
When you find yourself at odds with the majority opinion, you should
just shut up. What's that, you say? You have "rights"?


Yes, you do have the right to politely argue your point. But every
action has unintended consequences. Argue with the intolerant liberal
left and they'll likely resort to violence. Maybe that's where you want
to be, maybe it's not.

My opinion on all this is that Dr Duh was making big bucks selling
prescription drugs and got used to the easy money. Unfortunately (for
him) he got caught, lost his license to practice full time and is now
going broke. I think when airport authorities asked him to deplane, he
saw an opportunity to make some easy cash. I'm sure if this goes to
trial, his legal team will have no trouble finding a panel of
easily-duped jurors.

Obviously not a poster boy for the medical community but he did draw
attention to an airline practice that few paying public would agree
with. I seriously doubt that he did this deliberately as it draws
attention to his dirt bag past.

On 4/14/2017 9:13 AM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:52:34 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:00:26 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:




that is not a beating.

Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.

If the flight leader had just got on the intercom and announced "We
can push back until that jerk in 22 D gets his ass off this plane" the
passengers would have kicked his ass and threw him onto the jetway.

Then he would sue UAL for not keeping him safe.



Maybe they need to prescreen for people who think airlines have been
screwing them for their entire life and are ready to blow. Then give
them directions to the bus terminal.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2017 9:39 AM, Dr. Jason Bull wrote:
On 4/14/2017 8:51 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
Mike wrote:

When you find yourself at odds with the law, comply peacefully with
their
requests.
When you find yourself at odds with the majority opinion, you should
just shut up. What's that, you say? You have "rights"?


Yes, you do have the right to politely argue your point. But every
action has unintended consequences. Argue with the intolerant liberal
left and they'll likely resort to violence. Maybe that's where you want
to be, maybe it's not.

My opinion on all this is that Dr Duh was making big bucks selling
prescription drugs and got used to the easy money. Unfortunately (for
him) he got caught, lost his license to practice full time and is now
going broke. I think when airport authorities asked him to deplane, he
saw an opportunity to make some easy cash. I'm sure if this goes to
trial, his legal team will have no trouble finding a panel of
easily-duped jurors.

Obviously not a poster boy for the medical community but he did draw
attention to an airline practice that few paying public would agree
with. I seriously doubt that he did this deliberately as it draws
attention to his dirt bag past.

You can count me as one of the people who understands the airline
policies, the fact that they can bump you and I understand their
occasional need to get a replacement crew somewhere to fly a plane.
I also understand the reason for over booking and am OK with that.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 12:17:00 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 4/14/2017 9:13 AM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:52:34 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:00:26 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:




that is not a beating.

Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.

If the flight leader had just got on the intercom and announced "We
can push back until that jerk in 22 D gets his ass off this plane" the
passengers would have kicked his ass and threw him onto the jetway.

Then he would sue UAL for not keeping him safe.



Maybe they need to prescreen for people who think airlines have been
screwing them for their entire life and are ready to blow. Then give
them directions to the bus terminal.

ROFL!

+1

On 4/14/2017 12:16 PM, Frank wrote:
Obviously not a poster boy for the medical community but he did draw attention to an airline practice that few paying public would agree with. I seriously doubt that he did this deliberately as it draws attention to his dirt bag past.


Most people are two-faced. They buy deeply-discounted non-refundable cheap tickets but then have a flat tire on the way to the airport (or some other lame excuse) and miss their flight, then the little snowflakes kick/scream/cry/demand seats on the next
flight.

Who pays for the missed flight's empty seats? (Yah, I know. The snowflakes expect the airline to absorb the loss.)

The primary reason airlines overbook in the first place is because of irresponsible/late/no-show people that can't plan well enough to make it to the airport on time.

"Grumpy Old White Guy" wrote in message
web.com...

On 4/14/2017 12:16 PM, Frank wrote:
Obviously not a poster boy for the medical community but he did draw
attention to an airline practice that few paying public would agree with.
I seriously doubt that he did this deliberately as it draws attention to
his dirt bag past.


Most people are two-faced. They buy deeply-discounted non-refundable cheap
tickets but then have a flat tire on the way to the airport (or some other
lame excuse) and miss their flight, then the little snowflakes
kick/scream/cry/demand seats on the next
flight.

Who pays for the missed flight's empty seats? (Yah, I know. The snowflakes
expect the airline to absorb the loss.)

The primary reason airlines overbook in the first place is because of
irresponsible/late/no-show people that can't plan well enough to make it to
the airport on time.

***Old man you need little "Education" if you made Reservation you can not
back out it is paid for, unless you have taking Flight Insurance for which
you must need to have good reason to back out!
"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any Public transportation. "NO wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha" is
not acceptable!
United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...
This action of United is General practice and our Ethical DOJ should step-in
and make sure that never happens again. I had reservation on United
airlines from San Francisco to Newark NJ with Handicap spouse in Business
class next to each other because of her condition, and paid for; but after I
check in I was split with my spouse and put all the way in back cabin Couch
class where space is limited even for person to fart. No I will not accept
apology from UAL or their CEO it would be to companionate to call them
“Filthy *******s”!

Dear CEO shove apology to your ???? We do not need apology but action!!!

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:50:27 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 2:17:48 PM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:30:22 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:56:58 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 4/13/2017 8:49 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

You obviously just don't get it. Suggest you take a course in
microeconomics.

And you take one in humanity.

United apologized for their ERROR. The policemen involved have
been suspended and face charges of battery.
United lost millions, but didn't lose more because of the
virtual monopoly they hold in Chicago (thanks Reagan).
And an elderly person was beaten and is still in hospital. Who
or what race he is has NOTHING to do with the subject. He was a
passenger.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/file/...airlines11.jpg
[]'s


Elderly person was NOT "beaten". I doubt he is still in the hospital,

Ah, another doctor here in the group that recognizes a
classical case of spontaneous mouth and nose bleed. Gratz.

O sht, we BOTH mistook the diagnosis. Thank dog he can't sue
us !!!
He suffered concussion, lost two teeth and had a fracture to
his nasal bones and maxillary sinus and will need reconstructive
surgery.
That is the official hospital report.

United claims that since he was almost 70, bones break easily,
so maybe they didn't kick him that hard after all. If he was a 5 year
old child he probably would have just bounced along the tarmac.

So I agree with Trader, in a police state you get what you
deserve, even if you don't deserve it.
Long live the Trumpet !!!!
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

UAL didn't kick or even touch the guy. It was the airport police.
If you ran a hardware store, told a customer to leave, get off
your property, he refused, you called the cops, he refused to
comply with them and they wound up beating him up, is that
your fault?

Yes.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

It also wouldn't have happened if the passenger had handled it better.

They say the same thing here in Brazil when the police execute
someone.
"If he had dodged, the bullet would not have blown his brains
out".
Maybe that happened to you ? Still having those headaches ?
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:28:22 -0700, "Tony944"
wrote:

Most people are two-faced. They buy deeply-discounted non-refundable cheap
tickets but then have a flat tire on the way to the airport (or some other
lame excuse) and miss their flight

They lose their tickets. It's happened to people I know.

then the little snowflakes

Why on earth are you bringing up the Trumpet's promises in a
thread about airline "terrorism" ?
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

"Buster Hymen" wrote in message web.com...

On 4/13/2017 11:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:28:16 -0400, Buster Hymen
wrote:

On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_

In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.
If the price was right, wouldn't you? Meh.


I would have taken United's offer of $800 cash, a motel room and the free round-trip US ticket.

KORD to KSDF is a 4-1/2 hr expressway drive. I'd have negotiated a rental car in exchange for the motel room. I'd have been home that night sleeping in my own bed.

No fat-faced ambulance chasing lawyers required.

***Old man you need little "Education" if you made Reservation you can not
back out it is paid for, unless you have taking Flight Insurance for which
you must need to have good reason to back out!
"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any Public transportation. "NO Wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha"
That is not acceptable!
United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...
This action of United is General practice and our Ethical DOJ should step-in
and make sure that never happens again. I had reservation on United
airlines from San Francisco to Newark NJ with Handicap spouse in Business
class next to each other because of her condition, and paid for; but after I
check in I was split with my spouse and put all the way in back cabin Couch
class where space is limited even for person to fart. No I will not accept
apology from UAL or their CEO it would be to companionate to call them
“Filthy *******s”!

Dear CEO shove apology to your ???? We do not need apology but action!!!

"Buster Hymen" wrote in message
web.com...

On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_


In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing lawyer
are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.


***Old man you need little "Education" if you made Reservation you can not
back out it is paid for, unless you have taking Flight Insurance for which
you must need to have good reason to back out!
"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any Public transportation. "NO wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha"
It is not acceptable!
United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...
This action of United is General practice and our Ethical DOJ should step-in
and make sure that never happens again. I had reservation on United
airlines from San Francisco to Newark NJ with Handicap spouse in Business
class next to each other because of her condition, and paid for; but after I
check in I was split with my spouse and put all the way in back cabin Couch
class where space is limited even for person to fart. No I will not accept
apology from UAL or their CEO it would be to companionate to call them
“Filthy *******s”!

Dear CEO shove apology to your ???? We do not need apology but action!!!

"trader_4" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:10:45 PM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:51:11 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Following that logic, then the police have no right to remove someone
from a store or restaurant when the management has told them to leave,
the police have told them to leave and they refuse.

If he/she was just quietly shopping/dining, and there was no
real emergency, you very accurately described a police state.

Don't change the facts. The situation I described is one where
a customer gets into a dispute with a business, creates a scene,
refuses to leave. The manager calls the police and the police
will enforce the manager's right to remove them from the property.
If the person will not obey the police, what happens next?

***You are mixing Cherry and Apples as usual !!!!

***Old man you need little "Education" if you made Reservation you can not
back out it is paid for, unless you have taking Flight Insurance for which
you must need to have good reason to back out!
"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any Public transportation. "NO wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha" is
not acceptable!
United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...
This action of United is General practice and our Ethical DOJ should step-in
and make sure that never happens again. I had reservation on United
airlines from San Francisco to Newark NJ with Handicap spouse in Business
class next to each other because of her condition, and paid for; but after I
check in I was split with my spouse and put all the way in back cabin Couch
class where space is limited even for person to fart. No I will not accept
apology from UAL or their CEO it would be to companionate to call them
€œFilthy *******s€�!

Dear CEO shove apology to your ???? We do not need apology but action!!!

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:25:46 -0700, "Tony944"
wrote:

KORD to KSDF is a 4-1/2 hr expressway drive. I'd have negotiated a rental car in exchange for the motel room. I'd have been home that night sleeping in my own bed.

That comes with it's own problem. They will not give you your bags
back. You might get them delivered to you a few days later but they
may also tell you they are at the airport, come get them.
They might also tell you they can't fly your bags if you are not on
the plane.

wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:25:46 -0700, "Tony944"
wrote:

KORD to KSDF is a 4-1/2 hr expressway drive. I'd have negotiated a rental
car in exchange for the motel room. I'd have been home that night sleeping
in my own bed.

That comes with it's own problem. They will not give you your bags
back. You might get them delivered to you a few days later but they
may also tell you they are at the airport, come get them.
They might also tell you they can't fly your bags if you are not on
the plane.

United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...
This action of United Airlines is General practice and our none
Discriminating Law do not permit that. DOJ should step-in and make sure that
never happens again. Personal Experience: I had reservation on United
airlines from San Francisco to Newark NJ with Handicap spouse in Business
class next to each other because of her condition, which I paid for; but
after I check in I was split with my spouse and put all the way in back
cabin Couch class where space is limited even for person to fart. No I will
not accept apology from UAL or their CEO it would be to companionate to call
them €œFilthy *******s€�!
"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any
Public transportation!! €œNO Wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha" is acceptable!

Dear CEO of UAL shove apology to your ???? We do not need apology but
action!!!

On 4/14/2017 2:39 PM, Tony944 wrote:
***Old man you need little "Education"


You need an education in usenet quoting. *plonk*

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:53:19 -0400, tim wrote:

On 4/14/2017 2:39 PM, Tony944 wrote:
***Old man you need little "Education"


You need an education in usenet quoting. *plonk*

Engrish is not his first language by his own admission. I do agree
about his failure in quoting and sometime the HTML.

On 4/13/2017 10:28 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_


In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing
lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.


I'll say it. How is your nickname not as bad as what the pervert doctor
did? Seriously, pick a less disgusting username.

--
Maggie

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 7:40:19 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 1:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tony944 wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 11:22:19 AM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:25:13 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 2:35:58 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 10:07:51 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 9:50:32 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/10/2017 9:38 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
One snowflake, squealing like a pig, as he is dragged from the
plane as other snowflakes sit by and scream "Oh my
God"! That had to be a flight either to or from California.

Maybe the police should have taken the guy who kept saying "I
have to go home" with them too.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/539284773...#sp=show-clips


They kicked him (and 3 others) off to make room for a Delta
employee.
That seems unfair to me as they were already boarded. .

Apparently they needed 4 seats for Delta employees who were crew
on their way to where they were needed for a flight. I don't see
that as unfair. Airlines routinely overbook flights and it's not
often that they wind up with too few seats. If they made a mistake,
it was in letting people on the plane before they were sure they
had enough seats. But then IDK when they first learned that they
had these 4 extra employees, could have been at the last minute.

I agree with Gordon on this one. The media is just going wild on
this one, saying the whole country is outraged at United.
Well, I'm outraged too, but not at United. I'm fed up with idiots
like this that make a spectacle, force planes to make an emergency
landing because they have to pay $12 for a blanket and stunts like
this. The dishonest media isn't even reporting the most basic
facts.
This was Chicago, not some little airport with no flights. So, when
was the next flight that they could have put this passenger on?
I bet they could have gotten him to his destination in just a few
more
hours.

And this clown is a doctor? I wouldn't want him as my doctor with
that
kind of judgment and behavior. Also, on talk radio this morning,
apparently the truth is starting to come out. I heard talk that the
doctor's license had been suspended for drug offenses, including
trading
drugs for sex. IDK if it's true, but that's what's being reported
some
places now.

The doctor paid for his seat.

As do thousands of other passengers that wind up not having a seat
every day. It's nothing new. Airlines routinely overbook flights,
relying on the history of how many people don't show up. If they
didn't, tickets would cost significantly more and a lot of people
wouldn't like that.




Did the 4 Delta employees pay for their seat.


Ridiculous and irrelevant. They were a FLIGHT CREW.



Not they did not !!

I cheer for the doctor who stood up for his rights.

There is a good saying.

"Your bad planning does not become my emergency."

Andy

Clearly you don't fly much or understand how airlines operate.

All you are doing is making excuses for bad judgement on the part of
United.

I hope you never make it on a jury.

Already been there and done that. And I helped make sure that one
of those violent trouble makers that came into our parish here got
what he deserved. There was this miscreant out on parole that got
pulled over by the cops. Instead of complying, he assaulted the cop
and then fled in a high speed, crash em, smash em across half the
state. One of the charges was escape by use of force, versus simple
escape. The former carries a much stiffer sentence. The confused
jury wanted to only find him guilty of simple escape. I had to
straighten them out, explaining that using a car, crashing into
police cars, is indeed using force. There were some other confused
snowflakes on there, like the woman who though that the old Camaro
he was driving couldn't possibly go over 100 MPH during the chase,
so the cops must be lying. I straightened her out too.....

And no, I'm not making excuses for the bad judgment of UAL. But
you are sure making excuses for the even worse bad judgment of the
doctor.

United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters

If it has nothing to do with being a crime, then why should the CEO
pay a fine and serve jail time? That would require a crime, so please
cite the statute.

I agree that it was a civil matter, until the passenger refused to
leave the plane. What do you think would happen at the local hardware
store if you have a civil dispute, the manager insists that you leave
and you refuse? So, he calls the police, they also tell you to leave
and you refuse. How does that end?




which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self.

The police told the guy to get off the plane. It's not his plane.
He refused, so they removed him.

Police had no probable cause to remove a paying passenger.

They are guilt of assault.

They will get their as@ sued too.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:25:07 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
On 4/14/2017 8:00 AM, dadiOH wrote:
"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message
news
On 4/13/2017 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:37:25 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:34:15 -0400, wrote:
He fell mouth first into an armrest
That was one report. At least he didn't "fall up the stairs."
There is a real good video of the fall that ran on NBC news tonight.
He was holding onto a seat on the starboard side and when they pulled
him, he twisted around and landed on a port side aisle arm rest, face
first.


that is not a beating.
Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.



No, Dao caused the kerfuffle and is 100% responsible for his own injuries.

When you find yourself at odds with the law, comply peacefully with their requests.

Later, if you feel you've been wronged, get a fat-faced ambulance-chasing lawyer and sue everyone involved.

He broke no laws.

But they broke many.

Jury will see that and rule accordingly.
:-)

On 4/15/17 8:09 AM, Andy wrote:

He refused, so they removed him.

Police had no probable cause to remove a paying passenger.


You don't need prbable cause to remove a person from somenone's
property. All you need is a complaint from the owner.

On 4/15/2017 8:09 AM, Andy wrote:

I agree that it was a civil matter, until the passenger refused to
leave the plane. What do you think would happen at the local hardware
store if you have a civil dispute, the manager insists that you leave
and you refuse? So, he calls the police, they also tell you to leave
and you refuse. How does that end?




which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self.

The police told the guy to get off the plane. It's not his plane.
He refused, so they removed him.

Police had no probable cause to remove a paying passenger.

They are guilt of assault.

They will get their as@ sued too.


They did have the right to remove him. Read the contract when you buy a
ticket.

Wat is unfortunate is the way it was handled. This should have been
resolved before the flight was boarded. My guess is some agent at the
counter with limited authority got the ball rolling.

Thy guy should have left quietly, not allow himself to be dragged out,
but the airline should and could have prevented this from happening. No
matter who is at fault, the bad publicity is overwhelming.

On 4/15/2017 8:40 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/15/2017 8:09 AM, Andy wrote:

I agree that it was a civil matter, until the passenger refused to
leave the plane. What do you think would happen at the local hardware
store if you have a civil dispute, the manager insists that you leave
and you refuse? So, he calls the police, they also tell you to leave
and you refuse. How does that end?




which
must be resolved in court of Law, which apparently police decided to
take
rules on them self.

The police told the guy to get off the plane. It's not his plane.
He refused, so they removed him.

Police had no probable cause to remove a paying passenger.

They are guilt of assault.

They will get their as@ sued too.


They did have the right to remove him. Read the contract when you buy a
ticket.

Wat is unfortunate is the way it was handled. This should have been
resolved before the flight was boarded. My guess is some agent at the
counter with limited authority got the ball rolling.

Thy guy should have left quietly, not allow himself to be dragged out,
but the airline should and could have prevented this from happening. No
matter who is at fault, the bad publicity is overwhelming.

The guy was stupid, the airline was stupid but I think good will result
from it as it points out that paid passengers are treated like cattle at
the whims of the carrier. Should result in better treatment of all
passengers.

On 04/15/2017 08:12 AM, Andy wrote:
On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:25:07 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
On 4/14/2017 8:00 AM, dadiOH wrote:
"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message
news On 4/13/2017 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:37:25 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:34:15 -0400, wrote:
He fell mouth first into an armrest
That was one report. At least he didn't "fall up the stairs."
There is a real good video of the fall that ran on NBC news tonight.
He was holding onto a seat on the starboard side and when they pulled
him, he twisted around and landed on a port side aisle arm rest, face
first.

that is not a beating.
Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.


No, Dao caused the kerfuffle and is 100% responsible for his own injuries.

When you find yourself at odds with the law, comply peacefully with their requests.

Later, if you feel you've been wronged, get a fat-faced ambulance-chasing lawyer and sue everyone involved.
He broke no laws.

But they broke many.

Jury will see that and rule accordingly.
:-)


The airline owns the airplane. If an airline representative asks you to
get off the plane, you should be obligated to do so peacefully.

Wanna fight it? Go see Judge Judy.

But we agree on one thing, juries are scary-stupid. Dr Duh will likely
get a pile of cash.

FWIW, if I had my way, this clown would have to pay restitution to all
the other passengers and the airline for delaying the flight.

On 04/14/2017 11:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/13/2017 10:28 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_

In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing
lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.

I'll say it. How is your nickname not as bad as what the pervert doctor
did? Seriously, pick a less disgusting username.

+1

On 4/15/2017 6:22 AM, Dr. Howie Feltersnatch wrote:
On 04/14/2017 11:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/13/2017 10:28 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_

In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing
lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.

I'll say it. How is your nickname not as bad as what the pervert doctor
did? Seriously, pick a less disgusting username.

+1



actions words

On 4/15/2017 9:03 AM, Bill wrote:

But we agree on one thing, juries are scary-stupid. Dr Duh will likely
get a pile of cash.

FWIW, if I had my way, this clown would have to pay restitution to all
the other passengers and the airline for delaying the flight.


Airline already reimbursed the passengers.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:03:48 -0400, Bill wrote:

But we agree on one thing, juries are scary-stupid.

No, just stupid. Too stupid to get off jury duty.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 7:09:49 AM UTC-4, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 4/13/2017 11:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:28:16 -0400, Buster Hymen
wrote:

On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passengers attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_

In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.
If the price was right, wouldn't you? Meh.


I would have taken United's offer of $800 cash, a motel room and the free round-trip US ticket.

KORD to KSDF is a 4-1/2 hr expressway drive. I'd have negotiated a rental car in exchange for the motel room. I'd have been home that night sleeping in my own bed.

No fat-faced ambulance chasing lawyers required.

Now that is yet a new and interesting angle on the whole thing.....

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:42:09 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Don't change the facts. The situation I described is one where
a customer gets into a dispute with a business

That never happened on the plane.
Don't change the subject.
[]'s

What incident are you talking about? A customer having a dispute with
a business is exactly what happened on the plane. Try using the actual
facts.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 10:52:56 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:00:26 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:




that is not a beating.

Doen't matter, the cops still caused the injuries.

If the flight leader had just got on the intercom and announced "We
can push back until that jerk in 22 D gets his ass off this plane" the
passengers would have kicked his ass and threw him onto the jetway.

And now that airlines have said they will offer up to $10,000 to
passengers to get off the plane, what will happen next is predictable.
They will ask for volunteers, some guy will accept at $300 and some
other passenger will start a fight, attack him, because it interfered
with his expected $5,000 or $10,000 pay out.

On 4/15/2017 8:22 AM, Dr. Howie Feltersnatch wrote:
On 04/14/2017 11:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 4/13/2017 10:28 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 4/13/2017 8:59 PM, Oren wrote:
Hey hey hey. Pay day...

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5397409460001/?#sp=show-clips

_United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge
Napolitano_

In my opinion, the pervert doctor and his fat-faced ambulance chasing
lawyer are just looking for an easy payday. Sadly, they'll likely win.

I'll say it. How is your nickname not as bad as what the pervert doctor
did? Seriously, pick a less disgusting username.

+1


Imaginative, but not an ounce of class. Does any woman take you seriously?

--
Maggie

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 1:27:30 PM UTC-4, Tony944 wrote:
"Grumpy Old White Guy" wrote in message
web.com...

On 4/14/2017 12:16 PM, Frank wrote:
Obviously not a poster boy for the medical community but he did draw
attention to an airline practice that few paying public would agree with.
I seriously doubt that he did this deliberately as it draws attention to
his dirt bag past.


Most people are two-faced. They buy deeply-discounted non-refundable cheap
tickets but then have a flat tire on the way to the airport (or some other
lame excuse) and miss their flight, then the little snowflakes
kick/scream/cry/demand seats on the next
flight.

Who pays for the missed flight's empty seats? (Yah, I know. The snowflakes
expect the airline to absorb the loss.)

The primary reason airlines overbook in the first place is because of
irresponsible/late/no-show people that can't plan well enough to make it to
the airport on time.

***Old man you need little "Education" if you made Reservation you can not
back out it is paid for, unless you have taking Flight Insurance for which
you must need to have good reason to back out!

Wrong again. Whether a ticket is refundable or not depends on the
airline policy and the particular ticket. There are full fare tickets
that are refundable. Many other tickets, while not refundable can
still be used, subject to a change fee.





"Only criminal or suspected criminal or abnormal behavior person can be
removed from any Public transportation.

It's not public transportation, the govt does not own the plane or the
airline.


"NO wouldha, Couldha or Shouldha" is
not acceptable!
United Airlines CEO should be in Jail and pay fines minimum of (1) one
Million for they action and the airport Police should be fined too "Because
this dose not have anything to do with Criminology it is Civil matters which
must be resolved in court of Law,
which apparently police decided to take
rules on them self. They action is Gestapo tactics and it is not
acceptable...

You come into my store, have a dispute with me, I try to reason with
you, we can't agree, so I tell you to leave,
you refuse, I call the cops. You refuse the cops order to leave.
What happens next?

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT)
trader_4 wrote:

It's not public transportation, the govt does not own the plane or the
airline.

many city buses are privately owned but are still
"public Transportation"

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 07:58:24 -0700 (PDT)
trader_4 wrote:

From: trader_4


With your vast knowledge of all things why are you not some
big wig some where, instead you flog junk on ebay?

You are nothing more than the fat old guys at flee markets
that know everything about everything.