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In defense of the electoral college
It's a stabilizing force for our democracy, even if you didn't like the
results of last week's election. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.becf00dc03f7 |
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In defense of the electoral college
This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC.
There is a huge difference. "burfordTjustice" wrote in message ... It's a stabilizing force for our democracy, even if you didn't like the results of last week's election. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.becf00dc03f7 |
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In defense of the electoral college
CJ expressed precisely :
This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. "burfordTjustice" wrote in message ... It's a stabilizing force for our democracy, even if you didn't like the results of last week's election. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.becf00dc03f7 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-a-democracy/ |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote:
This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home. (Of course this is the situation that the Communis... oops, I mean the "Democrat" party, would like to bring about.) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 11/30/2016 12:46 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home.sniP You do realize, in realty, that doesn't happen. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-5, #NoDAPL wrote:
On 11/30/2016 12:46 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home.sniP You do realize, in realty, that doesn't happen. Yes, that was a bit of hyperbole, but it isn't far off from the truth. The coasts would decide the election, and the flyover states would just have to suck hind teat. Cindy Hamilton |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:49:41 AM UTC-6, CJ wrote:
This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. I've heard that the system of government of The United States is a "Constitutional Republic." Here is an interesting site that explains it. Check out the home page too. ヽ(ヅ)ノ http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...Democracy.html [8~{} Uncle Constitutional Monster |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 11/30/2016 2:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-5, #NoDAPL wrote: On 11/30/2016 12:46 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home.sniP You do realize, in realty, that doesn't happen. Yes, that was a bit of hyperbole, but it isn't far off from the truth. The coasts would decide the election, and the flyover states would just have to suck hind teat. Cindy Hamilton So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. |
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In defense of the electoral college
Uncle Monster explained on 11/30/2016 :
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:49:41 AM UTC-6, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. I've heard that the system of government of The United States is a "Constitutional Republic." Here is an interesting site that explains it. Check out the home page too. ヽ(ヅ)ノ http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...Democracy.html [8~{} Uncle Constitutional Monster http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:53:26 -0500, FromTheRafters
wrote: Uncle Monster explained on 11/30/2016 : On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:49:41 AM UTC-6, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. I've heard that the system of government of The United States is a "Constitutional Republic." Here is an interesting site that explains it. Check out the home page too. ?(?)? http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...Democracy.html [8~{} Uncle Constitutional Monster http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html Democracy is two dogs fighting over each end of a bone. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:30:49 -0600, #NoDAPL
wrote: So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. This is the "United STATES of America. It was designed to be a union of states, not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities. Each state has power, just because it os a state and that shows up in the Senate and the Electoral College. Since the federal government started taking our money and dispersing it from DC, there are few other state powers, even over matters that never leave the state. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:46:03 -0000, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home. (Of course this is the situation that the Communis... oops, I mean the "Democrat" party, would like to bring about.) Are you saying you don't want each individual citizen to have an equal vote? -- If the Internet is a superhighway, then AOL must be a fleet of farm equipment that straddles five lanes and pays no heed to "Keep Right Except to Pass" signs. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:46:30 -0000, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:30:49 -0600, #NoDAPL wrote: So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. This is the "United STATES of America. It was designed to be a union of states, not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities. Each state has power, just because it os a state and that shows up in the Senate and the Electoral College. Since the federal government started taking our money and dispersing it from DC, there are few other state powers, even over matters that never leave the state. Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. -- Bakers trade bread recipes on a kneadtoknow basis. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:22:29 -0000, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:49:41 AM UTC-6, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. I've heard that the system of government of The United States is a "Constitutional Republic." Here is an interesting site that explains it. Check out the home page too. ヽ(ヅ)ノ http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...Democracy.html [8~{} Uncle Constitutional Monster The system of government of the United States is a ****ing farce. -- 63% of men have had sex in the shower. The other 37% have never been to prison. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 11/30/16 6:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Had to snip a bunch due to aioe quotation limit. Are you saying you don't want each individual citizen to have an equal vote? We do within our respective states. This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nebraska_Congressional_Districts,_113th_Congr ess.tif is how Nebraska is divided land wise to give each of us close to one vote per person. Each area elects one representative to the House. We vote state wide for our two senators. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 01:02:56 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/30/16 6:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Had to snip a bunch due to aioe quotation limit. Are you saying you don't want each individual citizen to have an equal vote? We do within our respective states. This But not within the whole of the USA. Your system appears to be as ****ed up as the UK's. We want proportional representation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nebraska_Congressional_Districts,_113th_Congr ess.tif is how Nebraska is divided land wise to give each of us close to one vote per person. Each area elects one representative to the House. We vote state wide for our two senators. -- A Jewish woman is sitting at a bar. A man approaches her. "Hi, honey," he says. "Want a little company?" "Why?" asks the woman. "Do you have one to sell?" |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 11/30/2016 7:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. Unfortunately the United States has an over-abundance of lazy worthless freeloaders. They are a huge financial burden on the taxpayers. In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. |
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In defense of the electoral college
wrote in message So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. This is the "United STATES of America. It was designed to be a union of states, not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities. Each state has power, just because it os a state and that shows up in the Senate and the Electoral College. Since the federal government started taking our money and dispersing it from DC, there are few other state powers, even over matters that never leave the state. not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities +1 ;) |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:13:00 -0500, Taxpayer
wrote: In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. Glad you clarified by stating an opinion. Under the law, that opinion doesn't apply. A stay-at--home mom has a right to vote in America. She didn't pay taxes for her work raising a family, but has a guaranteed, constitutional right to vote. The husband paid the taxes, yet she can vote and do it legally under the law. Where do live? |
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In defense of the electoral college
On 11/30/2016 8:13 PM, Taxpayer wrote:
On 11/30/2016 7:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. Unfortunately the United States has an over-abundance of lazy worthless freeloaders. They are a huge financial burden on the taxpayers. In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. Voting will be faster now that you eliminated stay=at=home spouses, retired people students, disabled and probably a few million others. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:53:31 PM UTC-6, FromTheRafters wrote:
Uncle Monster explained on 11/30/2016 : On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:49:41 AM UTC-6, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. I've heard that the system of government of The United States is a "Constitutional Republic." Here is an interesting site that explains it.. Check out the home page too. ヽ(ヅ)ノ http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion...Democracy.html [8~{} Uncle Constitutional Monster http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html I don't believe the word,"democracy" appears in the U.S. Constitution. Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution... Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words, "Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...", In other words, democracies always fail and the founders knew this because they were highly educated. Keep arguing about it because debate leads to learning since it makes you seek knowledge. ヽ(ヅ)ノ [8~{} Uncle Teaching Monster |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:10:16 -0800, Oren wrote:
http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html Democracy is two dogs fighting over each end of a bone. The issue with the EC is more like 2 wolves and a sheep voting for what to have for dinner. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 7:13:07 PM UTC-6, Taxpayer wrote:
On 11/30/2016 7:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. Unfortunately the United States has an over-abundance of lazy worthless freeloaders. They are a huge financial burden on the taxpayers. In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. I'm not working. I'm disabled and stuck in a wheelchair after working all my life. I need new knees and shoulders and live with a great deal of pain. There is nothing I'd like more than to be working and was still working after having a heart attack and being sent home to die. I haven't been able to walk for more than 2 years and it's very frustrating. I receive Social Security and am a Medicaid patient. So it's your assertion that I shouldn't be allowed to vote? I think I've earned my right to vote as a law abiding citizen. I have a problem with able bodied people who have even a modicum of intelligence sitting on their butts while getting public assistance. I believe in workfare and would like to see it implemented by a Trump administration and used as part of his promise to rebuild the country's infrastructure. Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. ”Œ( à²*_à²*)”˜ [8~{} Uncle Wheeled Monster |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:52:54 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:46:30 -0000, wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:30:49 -0600, #NoDAPL wrote: So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. This is the "United STATES of America. It was designed to be a union of states, not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities. Each state has power, just because it os a state and that shows up in the Senate and the Electoral College. Since the federal government started taking our money and dispersing it from DC, there are few other state powers, even over matters that never leave the state. Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. We do not want the feudal system like you folks had in England where the people in the castle dictated terms to everyone outside the wall. Perhaps that is not an issue in a small well populated place like UK but things that make perfect sense in New York City are just stupid in Wyoming and the people in Wyoming want a say about what the feds mandate for them. (hence the US Senate and the EC) |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:33:52 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote: I'm not working. I'm disabled and stuck in a wheelchair after working all my life. I need new knees and shoulders and live with a great deal of pain. There is nothing I'd like more than to be working and was still working after having a heart attack and being sent home to die. I haven't been able to walk for more than 2 years and it's very frustrating. I receive Social Security and am a Medicaid patient. So it's your assertion that I shouldn't be allowed to vote? I think I've earned my right to vote as a law abiding citizen. I have a problem with able bodied people who have even a modicum of intelligence sitting on their butts while getting public assistance. I believe in workfare and would like to see it implemented by a Trump administration and used as part of his promise to rebuild the country's infrastructure. Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. ?( ?_?)? Maybe they could get you some training in something that you can do sitting down. There were a number of disabled folks in the computer biz, even before they were a protected class. Not complaining, just suggesting you might find something that fulfills you a bit more and makes you some bucks. |
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On 2016-12-01, Taxpayer wrote:
In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. I would say that if someone is receiving a government entitlement check they should not be able to vote due to conflict of interest. People living at public expense should not be permitted to determine public policy. There are far too many non-productive, useless lumps of protoplasm being permitted to pick their neighbors' pockets by proxy. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 10:27:22 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:33:52 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: I'm not working. I'm disabled and stuck in a wheelchair after working all my life. I need new knees and shoulders and live with a great deal of pain. There is nothing I'd like more than to be working and was still working after having a heart attack and being sent home to die. I haven't been able to walk for more than 2 years and it's very frustrating. I receive Social Security and am a Medicaid patient. So it's your assertion that I shouldn't be allowed to vote? I think I've earned my right to vote as a law abiding citizen. I have a problem with able bodied people who have even a modicum of intelligence sitting on their butts while getting public assistance. I believe in workfare and would like to see it implemented by a Trump administration and used as part of his promise to rebuild the country's infrastructure. Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. ?( ?_?)? Maybe they could get you some training in something that you can do sitting down. There were a number of disabled folks in the computer biz, even before they were a protected class. Not complaining, just suggesting you might find something that fulfills you a bit more and makes you some bucks. The problem is how I feel from day to day. I don't know if I'll be up to doing anything on a regular schedule. Some days I'm in so much pain and feel so bad that I don't get out of bed, except for bathroom breaks. I'm actually helping a guy get his business going by finding material for jobs and ordering it. He just completed installing a fiber optic link in a 30 story building to link a network on the top floor to a network on the bottom floor. I found and ordered all the material for that job because I understand all the specs and what's involved with such work because of my experience. I'm trying to compile a customer list for him to call on from my old customers and JH's old customers. I'm trying to find a deal on insurance for him so he can get work from national service companies that use independent service techs. I can help, I just can climb ladders or crawl under anything anymore. It's frustrating as hell.ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Frustrated Monster |
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On 11/30/2016 7:02 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/30/16 6:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Had to snip a bunch due to aioe quotation limit. Are you saying you don't want each individual citizen to have an equal vote? We do within our respective states. This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nebraska_Congressional_Districts,_113th_Congr ess.tif is how Nebraska is divided land wise to give each of us close to one vote per person. Each area elects one representative to the House. We vote state wide for our two senators. We are voting nationally. When the ec was devised the presidency meant something very different from what we have now which is why we need a change. The results are actually not that far off. 93%. I don't buy into the coast vs inland thing. Poppy cock. Right now it's just giving the middle too much weight. When you have a difference of 2.5 mil. You gotta problem. We have a problem. Too much divisiveness. |
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On 11/30/2016 10:33 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. LOL, the typical poor deprived fat welfare spud is too lazy to pick up the trash in their own yard. |
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On 11/30/2016 08:37 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:13:00 -0500, Taxpayer wrote: In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. Glad you clarified by stating an opinion. Under the law, that opinion doesn't apply. I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Did your mother drop you on your head when you were little? |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:52:11 -0000
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:46:03 -0000, Roger Blake wrote: On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home. (Of course this is the situation that the Communis... oops, I mean the "Democrat" party, would like to bring about.) Are you saying you don't want each individual citizen to have an equal vote? As a Brit you should know your vote does not count. |
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Roger Blake laid this down on his screen :
On 2016-12-01, Taxpayer wrote: In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. I would say that if someone is receiving a government entitlement check they should not be able to vote due to conflict of interest. People living at public expense should not be permitted to determine public policy. There are far too many non-productive, useless lumps of protoplasm being permitted to pick their neighbors' pockets by proxy. So disabled military veterans shouldn't be allowed to vote? That's pretty ****ed up. Maybe you have a different definition for "entitlement" than I do. |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 04:20:44 -0000, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:52:54 -0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:46:30 -0000, wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:30:49 -0600, #NoDAPL wrote: So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. This is the "United STATES of America. It was designed to be a union of states, not a oligarchy ruled by overcrowded coastal cities. Each state has power, just because it os a state and that shows up in the Senate and the Electoral College. Since the federal government started taking our money and dispersing it from DC, there are few other state powers, even over matters that never leave the state. Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. We do not want the feudal system like you folks had in England where the people in the castle dictated terms to everyone outside the wall. Perhaps that is not an issue in a small well populated place like UK but things that make perfect sense in New York City are just stupid in Wyoming and the people in Wyoming want a say about what the feds mandate for them. (hence the US Senate and the EC) The whole country is to get one government. The whole country only ends up with one choice. If you have 50 million folk in one state and 10 million in another, why would you say the 50 million are 5 times less important? -- A father is someone who carries pictures where his money used to be. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 03:33:52 -0000, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 7:13:07 PM UTC-6, Taxpayer wrote: On 11/30/2016 7:52 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Votes should be PER PERSON. Nothing else makes sense. No one person is more important than another. Unfortunately the United States has an over-abundance of lazy worthless freeloaders. They are a huge financial burden on the taxpayers. In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. I'm not working. I'm disabled and stuck in a wheelchair after working all my life. I need new knees and shoulders and live with a great deal of pain. There is nothing I'd like more than to be working and was still working after having a heart attack and being sent home to die. I haven't been able to walk for more than 2 years and it's very frustrating. I receive Social Security and am a Medicaid patient. So it's your assertion that I shouldn't be allowed to vote? I think I've earned my right to vote as a law abiding citizen. I have a problem with able bodied people who have even a modicum of intelligence sitting on their butts while getting public assistance. I believe in workfare and would like to see it implemented by a Trump administration and used as part of his promise to rebuild the country's infrastructure. Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. ”Œ( à²*_à²*)”˜ [8~{} Uncle Wheeled Monster Typical disabled person, jumping to conclusions and assuming everybody's getting at them! -- Das Computer Maschine Ist Nich Fur Gefingerenpoken Und Mittengrabben! Ist Easy Schnappen Der Springenwerken Mit Spitzensparken Und Poppenkorken! Das Rubbernecken Sightseeren Mus Keep Der Handz In Der Pockets, Relax Und Vatch Die Blinkenlights!! |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:00:47 -0000, Ben Dover wrote:
On 11/30/2016 10:33 PM, Uncle Monster wrote: Heck, put the able bodied welfare recipients to work cleaning up their neighborhoods. LOL, the typical poor deprived fat welfare spud is too lazy to pick up the trash in their own yard. Some people (not suggesting Uncle Monster) are "disabled" because they're overweight. They shouldn't be classed as legally disabled. -- If our service isn't up to your standards, please lower your standards. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:10:43 -0000, www wrote:
On 11/30/2016 08:37 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:13:00 -0500, Taxpayer wrote: In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. Glad you clarified by stating an opinion. Under the law, that opinion doesn't apply. I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Did your mother drop you on your head when you were little? He read it perfectly well. -- Tip of the day: Do not fart in the bath while you have the runs. |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:30:53 PM UTC-5, #NoDAPL wrote:
On 11/30/2016 2:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-5, #NoDAPL wrote: On 11/30/2016 12:46 PM, Roger Blake wrote: On 2016-11-30, CJ wrote: This is NOT a democracy. Why can't people get that. We are a REPUBLIC. There is a huge difference. Most people have been conditioned in the government schools to believe otherwise. Even for those who know better it is very easy to slip up and use the incorrect terminology since it is so pervasive. Democracy is just mob rule, where 51% of the people have their way the other 49%. (It has also been described as two foxes and a hen voting on what to have for dinner.) If it weren't for the electoral college, California and New York would decide every presidential election and the rest of us might as well just stay home.sniP You do realize, in realty, that doesn't happen. Yes, that was a bit of hyperbole, but it isn't far off from the truth. The coasts would decide the election, and the flyover states would just have to suck hind teat. Cindy Hamilton So the alternative is to grant land the right to vote? Strange. I don't think you guys have thought this through. Up until recently, we were a land of yeoman farmers. It's still a good idea to let the middle of the country have some say in how the nation is governed. Cindy Hamilton |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 7:02:03 AM UTC-6, FromTheRafters wrote:
Roger Blake laid this down on his screen : On 2016-12-01, Taxpayer wrote: In my opinion, if someone is not working and paying taxes, they should not be allowed to vote. I would say that if someone is receiving a government entitlement check they should not be able to vote due to conflict of interest. People living at public expense should not be permitted to determine public policy. There are far too many non-productive, useless lumps of protoplasm being permitted to pick their neighbors' pockets by proxy. So disabled military veterans shouldn't be allowed to vote? That's pretty ****ed up. Maybe you have a different definition for "entitlement" than I do. Hell, perhaps military vets should get two votes as reparations for being crapped on for so many years. There should never be a homeless vet or one who can't get medical care. My parents served, my dad's older brother was a lifer, my older brother served two tours in Vietnam. Me and my other brother tried to join during the Vietnam war but were turned down for medical reasons. Hell, we tried to join which is more than a lot of the whining weasels have ever done. The citizenry should be thanking the military and veterans every day because we have no idea of the secret things they've done to protect the country. My older brother was special forces and in Laos before anyone ever heard of the country. The average citizen has no fraking clue. ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ [8~{} Uncle Thankful Monster |
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In defense of the electoral college
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 9:56:54 AM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
The whole country is to get one government. The whole country only ends up with one choice. If you have 50 million folk in one state and 10 million in another, why would you say the 50 million are 5 times less important? Here's an analogy. You've got a guy who's the proverbial 90-pound weakling and another guy who's a 250-pound bruiser. Should the big guy always get his way? The Electoral College is a bit like handicapping a horse race. Cindy Hamilton |
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