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I was at the local bar when a guy asked someome what song was playing on
the jukebox. He didn't know, but another guy grabbed his cellphone, pushed a few bottons, and less than a half minute later he said the name of the song as well as the artist, what album it was on and more... I looked at the guy and said "how did you do that?". He said its a phone app. The microphone in the phone listens to a sample of the music, and can identify exactly what it is. Later on, I went over to the jukebox, and played an old song from the mid-1960s, which was not a real well known band. Sure enough, the phone knew what it was..... I have to admit, I was impressed! It's getting to the point that I have to ask what CANT these phones do, rather than ask what they CAN do.... I've even seen a special doorbell advertised which shows who is at your door. Not only when you're in the house, but anywhere you are. That's crazy, but I have to admit, it's kind of cool. The only lacking feature is the shotgun that pops out of the wall when a salesman or burgular comes to the door. This same guy then walked over to a pool table and set his phone in the middle of the table. A circular level appeared, and he checked to see if the table was level (it was slightly off). Last summer while camping, someone pointed their phone at the sky, and it showed all the constellations and their names. Very cool! I also heard they have an app that will tell a person their blood-alcohol level. I'm not sure how it senses that though. I just have a basic flip-phone, and I dont really want a smartphone just for calls and the few texts I send, but I'd almost consider getting one just for some of the apps they can have. Maybe when they come up with an app, that saws a 2x4 in half and includes a screw gun, electronic hammer, cooks my dinner, cleans my house, and washes my dishes, I'll get one! Who knows, maybe in the future, they will make a cellphone that even takes care of it's owners sexual needs.... but I wont go into detail on that!!! |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I was at the local bar when a guy asked someome what song was playing on the jukebox. He didn't know, but another guy grabbed his cellphone, pushed a few bottons, and less than a half minute later he said the name of the song as well as the artist, what album it was on and more... I looked at the guy and said "how did you do that?". He said its a phone app. The microphone in the phone listens to a sample of the music, and can identify exactly what it is. Later on, I went over to the jukebox, and played an old song from the mid-1960s, which was not a real well known band. Sure enough, the phone knew what it was..... I have to admit, I was impressed! Shazam is the app. I had it loaded on my phone at one time, but after the novelty of playing with it, I never used it. It's getting to the point that I have to ask what CANT these phones do, rather than ask what they CAN do.... I've even seen a special doorbell advertised which shows who is at your door. Not only when you're in the house, but anywhere you are. That's crazy, but I have to admit, it's kind of cool. The only lacking feature is the shotgun that pops out of the wall when a salesman or burgular comes to the door. Costco is selling that video doorbell for $180. I guess it has some advantages, like if a burglar is ringing your doorbell prior to breaking in when you're away. But not enough utility there to make it attractive for me. This same guy then walked over to a pool table and set his phone in the middle of the table. A circular level appeared, and he checked to see if the table was level (it was slightly off). I have that on my phone. Last summer while camping, someone pointed their phone at the sky, and it showed all the constellations and their names. Very cool! I didn't know about that one. A friend has an electronic viewing device that you sight through, get the crosshairs on the target of interest, push a button and it tells you what it is. Works in reverse too, you can look up planets, stars, select one and it will direct you via arrows in the viewing port to where it is in the sky. I also heard they have an app that will tell a person their blood-alcohol level. I'm not sure how it senses that though. I wound think it would require some kind of plug-in, attachment, etc. I just have a basic flip-phone, and I dont really want a smartphone just for calls and the few texts I send, but I'd almost consider getting one just for some of the apps they can have. Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. |
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wrote in message ... I was at the local bar when a guy asked someome what song was playing on the jukebox. He didn't know, but another guy grabbed his cellphone, pushed a few bottons, and less than a half minute later he said the name of the song as well as the artist, what album it was on and more... I looked at the guy and said "how did you do that?". He said its a phone app. The microphone in the phone listens to a sample of the music, and can identify exactly what it is. Later on, I went over to the jukebox, and played an old song from the mid-1960s, which was not a real well known band. Sure enough, the phone knew what it was..... I have to admit, I was impressed! It's getting to the point that I have to ask what CANT these phones do, rather than ask what they CAN do.... I've even seen a special doorbell advertised which shows who is at your door. Not only when you're in the house, but anywhere you are. That's crazy, but I have to admit, it's kind of cool. The only lacking feature is the shotgun that pops out of the wall when a salesman or burgular comes to the door. http://www.androidfreeware.net/download-schottgunn.html |
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my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it.
why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster.... |
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On 3/25/2016 11:26 AM, bob haller wrote:
my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it. why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster.... Opens up the question. Is this the kind of GF you wish to be dating? A cell phone addict? Perhaps that is exactly suited to your needs. Me, I'd keep looking. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... On 3/25/2016 11:26 AM, bob haller wrote: my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it. why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster.... Opens up the question. Is this the kind of GF you wish to be dating? A cell phone addict? Perhaps that is exactly suited to your needs. Me, I'd keep looking. I think SHE has already answered that question from her point of view. |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:06:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Never thought I'd use my phone as much as I do. I too often find myself waiting for my wife at the doctor's office or the like and little to do. I can read the news, check the weather, read my email, check accounts at financial institutions, etc. I also use a sound meter to check noise levels in the shop, take photos of things I'd not normally think of. Like the label I can't read on a motor, or the model number of an appliance where my head does not fit to read it easily. It can be a toy that wastes a lot of time, but it can be a useful tool that can save time. Neighbor has a 'barcode' reader App. Easy for comparative shopping while in the stores - finds the best prices for that item. |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:25:57 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-4, wrote: I was at the local bar when a guy asked someome what song was playing on the jukebox. He didn't know, but another guy grabbed his cellphone, pushed a few bottons, and less than a half minute later he said the name of the song as well as the artist, what album it was on and more... I looked at the guy and said "how did you do that?". He said its a phone app. The microphone in the phone listens to a sample of the music, and can identify exactly what it is. Later on, I went over to the jukebox, and played an old song from the mid-1960s, which was not a real well known band. Sure enough, the phone knew what it was..... I have to admit, I was impressed! Shazam is the app. I had it loaded on my phone at one time, but after the novelty of playing with it, I never used it. Shazam *may* have been the app. There are others that do the same thing. I use SoundHound. I have it on the home screen of my phone and will often tap it when I hear a song/artist on the TV that I like but don't recognize. For example, Suits often plays short snippets of modern/obscure songs. Many shows do. It's a marketing thing. Since I don't listen to a lot of commercial radio, I am not as up to date as I used to be. If I like a song, I'll tap SoundHound, identify the artist and then use Pandora or YouTube to listen to more of the artist/genre. YouTube allows me to hear more of the same artist, Pandora introduces me to similar artists within the same genre. |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 3:02:06 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:25:57 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-4, wrote: I was at the local bar when a guy asked someome what song was playing on the jukebox. He didn't know, but another guy grabbed his cellphone, pushed a few bottons, and less than a half minute later he said the name of the song as well as the artist, what album it was on and more... I looked at the guy and said "how did you do that?". He said its a phone app. The microphone in the phone listens to a sample of the music, and can identify exactly what it is. Later on, I went over to the jukebox, and played an old song from the mid-1960s, which was not a real well known band. Sure enough, the phone knew what it was..... I have to admit, I was impressed! Shazam is the app. I had it loaded on my phone at one time, but after the novelty of playing with it, I never used it. Shazam *may* have been the app. There are others that do the same thing. I use SoundHound. I have it on the home screen of my phone and will often tap it when I hear a song/artist on the TV that I like but don't recognize. For example, Suits often plays short snippets of modern/obscure songs. Many shows do. It's a marketing thing. Since I don't listen to a lot of commercial radio, I am not as up to date as I used to be. If I like a song, I'll tap SoundHound, identify the artist and then use Pandora or YouTube to listen to more of the artist/genre. YouTube allows me to hear more of the same artist, Pandora introduces me to similar artists within the same genre. I'd like to disagree with I just said, It's a marketing thing. After I thought about it for a second or two, I realized that some of the artists I've been introduced to are not commercial successes and may never be. I think that someone on the show (a writer, a producer, an actor, etc.) just liked the song/lyrics and used it on the show. There are some really good yet very obscure artists out there. |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:26:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it. why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster.... There are two people who come to the local bar, who sit in the back room with a beer, and never srop looking at their phones. Other people have commented on them too. If you try to talk to them, they usually dont even respond, or just give a yes or no answer. I've looked at the screen on their phone and it's mostly facebook. I cant imagine why they even come to the bar. It would be easier and cheaper to just stay home and stare at their phone with a beer. The funny thing, those two are one male, ome female, and they are always together. It's been a joke with others at the bar, that someday those two will get married and spend their honeymoon in a motel staring at facebook on their phones!!! With any luck, they will have intercourse over their phones too, and if any children are born later, the kids will have numerals on them, and will only make beeping sounds..... |
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On 3/25/2016 9:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/25/2016 8:04 AM, wrote: I just have a basic flip-phone, and I dont really want a smartphone just for calls and the few texts I send, but I'd almost consider getting one just for some of the apps they can have. Never thought I'd use my phone as much as I do. I too often find myself waiting for my wife at the doctor's office or the like and little to do. I can read the news, check the weather, read my email, check accounts at financial institutions, etc. I also use a sound meter to check noise levels in the shop, take photos of things I'd not normally think of. Like the label I can't read on a motor, or the model number of an appliance where my head does not fit to read it easily. It can be a toy that wastes a lot of time, but it can be a useful tool that can save time. I like the photo, text, groundhog, and game apps! -- Maggie |
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On 3/25/2016 12:55 PM, KenK wrote:
wrote in news:4j8afblb9acajj6ltnotp36ge1du87jk5l@ 4ax.com: Maybe when they come up with an app, that saws a 2x4 in half and includes a screw gun, electronic hammer, cooks my dinner, cleans my house, and washes my dishes, I'll get one! And sews on buttons! That's extremely important. In the past few weeks I've had to sew on four shirt buttons! In desperation, I'm considering looking around for a woman who knows how to sew and finally getting married. What's that woman get out of the deal besides the title of maid? -- Maggie |
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On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote:
Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. In fact, one can use an old cell phone without service in WiFi areas with full functioning apps. There are many app tools which don't even require connection such as that level. It's just a handy tool to have within the phone. |
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Muggles wrote in
: On 3/25/2016 12:55 PM, KenK wrote: wrote in news:4j8afblb9acajj6ltnotp36ge1du87jk5l@ 4ax.com: Maybe when they come up with an app, that saws a 2x4 in half and includes a screw gun, electronic hammer, cooks my dinner, cleans my house, and washes my dishes, I'll get one! And sews on buttons! That's extremely important. In the past few weeks I've had to sew on four shirt buttons! In desperation, I'm considering looking around for a woman who knows how to sew and finally getting married. What's that woman get out of the deal besides the title of maid? My estate when I kick off? -- You know it's time to clean the refrigerator when something closes the door from the inside. |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote:
On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. In fact, one can use an old cell phone without service in WiFi areas with full functioning apps. There are many app tools which don't even require connection such as that level. It's just a handy tool to have within the phone. While what you say is true, let's make sure we are clear for those that are "amazed" by these cell phone apps. There are certainly apps that do not a require a network connection to run, but you obviously need a network connection to get them on the phone on the first place - assuming that they didn't come with the phone. In addition, there are basically 3 types of apps: full functionality without a network connection, limited functionality without a network connection, and no useful functionality without a network connection. So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote:
On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. Well, as I said, in the past you did if you wanted to use that smartphone on Verizon. They would not put a smartphone on their network without you subscribing to one of their data plans. You could not use their network for only voice/text and go wifi for data. I saw plenty of other people complaining about similar policies from other major carriers. And as I said, that policy may have changed, but that's what it was about 2 1/2 years ago when I left Verizon. |
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On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 10:38:30 AM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. In fact, one can use an old cell phone without service in WiFi areas with full functioning apps. There are many app tools which don't even require connection such as that level. It's just a handy tool to have within the phone. While what you say is true, let's make sure we are clear for those that are "amazed" by these cell phone apps. There are certainly apps that do not a require a network connection to run, but you obviously need a network connection to get them on the phone on the first place - assuming that they didn't come with the phone. In addition, there are basically 3 types of apps: full functionality without a network connection, limited functionality without a network connection, and no useful functionality without a network connection. So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. |
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On 3/26/2016 10:38 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. In fact, one can use an old cell phone without service in WiFi areas with full functioning apps. There are many app tools which don't even require connection such as that level. It's just a handy tool to have within the phone. While what you say is true, let's make sure we are clear for those that are "amazed" by these cell phone apps. There are certainly apps that do not a require a network connection to run, but you obviously need a network connection to get them on the phone on the first place - assuming that they didn't come with the phone. In addition, there are basically 3 types of apps: full functionality without a network connection, limited functionality without a network connection, and no useful functionality without a network connection. So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. Obviously, much depends on the app and it's use. The initial install of an app with WiFi isn't an ordeal and a one time procedure and as I stated, no provider is needed. If someone wants an app to search prices, locations, distances or any type of updated service while on the move. then yes, a data connection will be needed IF NOT within WiFi connecting area. Otherwise, it can still be obtained via WiFi when/if they stop where that connection is available. There are many apps which are not a subset and offer great use without any connection. I use many of them. I have an iPad without data and take it with me everywhere. I obviously don't use it while driving but the apps within offer many advantages and usage without connection. I'm stating this because it appears you are displaying a negative impact on apps as a whole when they can offer great conveniences. My apologies if I'm wrong. Overall, it's up to the user to do their own investigation. |
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On 3/26/2016 11:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. Well, as I said, in the past you did if you wanted to use that smartphone on Verizon. They would not put a smartphone on their network without you subscribing to one of their data plans. You could not use their network for only voice/text and go wifi for data. I saw plenty of other people complaining about similar policies from other major carriers. And as I said, that policy may have changed, but that's what it was about 2 1/2 years ago when I left Verizon. If you're referring to still using the phone for it's main purpose (or maybe not so much anymore) of calling, then you're correct, Verizon wouldn't allow that. But if you upgraded to a new phone, for example, and you have your old one without connection, it's still functional for many many uses. Camera, games, apps not requiring OTA data, videos, books, GPS/navigation, calculators, conversions and the list goes on. |
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On 3/26/2016 10:10 AM, KenK wrote:
Muggles wrote in : On 3/25/2016 12:55 PM, KenK wrote: wrote in news:4j8afblb9acajj6ltnotp36ge1du87jk5l@ 4ax.com: Maybe when they come up with an app, that saws a 2x4 in half and includes a screw gun, electronic hammer, cooks my dinner, cleans my house, and washes my dishes, I'll get one! And sews on buttons! That's extremely important. In the past few weeks I've had to sew on four shirt buttons! In desperation, I'm considering looking around for a woman who knows how to sew and finally getting married. What's that woman get out of the deal besides the title of maid? My estate when I kick off? That depends on the value. |
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On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 11:48:21 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. Well, as I said, in the past you did if you wanted to use that smartphone on Verizon. They would not put a smartphone on their network without you subscribing to one of their data plans. You could not use their network for only voice/text and go wifi for data. I saw plenty of other people complaining about similar policies from other major carriers. And as I said, that policy may have changed, but that's what it was about 2 1/2 years ago when I left Verizon. Yes, you need a data plan with most carriers in order to get voice service, but that doesn't make a smartphone without a plan useless. (You may know this, I'm just sharing.) There is a difference between activating a phone on a carrier's network and using it to access the internet. I have a Verizon data plan for my main smartphone. I also have TWC which provides my internet access and WiFi at home. I have an older smartphone that I still use to access the internet without it being on any carrier's network. For example, the old phone typically lives in my shop where I use it to listen to Pandora, Tune-In radio, youtube, surf the web, etc. It's attached to an old stereo system through the headphone jack. No plan, it's basically a low end tablet. If I wanted to, I could use it for VoIP and get "voice service" to. |
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On 3/26/16 11:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. Well, as I said, in the past you did if you wanted to use that smartphone on Verizon. They would not put a smartphone on their network without you subscribing to one of their data plans. You could not use their network for only voice/text and go wifi for data. I saw plenty of other people complaining about similar policies from other major carriers. And as I said, that policy may have changed, but that's what it was about 2 1/2 years ago when I left Verizon. This is changing the discussion somewhat. The OP was ANY kind of Internet Access, even Wifi. If all you want is Wifi, then you aren't on Verizon's network and that is easy (after all that is essentially what the iPods are). Now if you want to get one from Verizon, I can see the problem. But we have a bunch of iPhone 4 handsets that have been replaced by newer ones and we still use the 4s for Pandora and other Internet uses. |
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"Oren" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? |
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On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 6:16:48 PM UTC-4, Kenny wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? I believe that he is saying that people donate _their_ older phones to seniors. e.g. If you have an Galaxy S5 and then upgrade to a S6, your fairly modern S5 is now an "older phone". |
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On 3/26/2016 6:16 PM, Kenny wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? Many seniors have no use for a phone or data plan and the cost that goes with it. They do like the security that allows a call to 911 if needed. |
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On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 12:46:55 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote:
On 3/26/2016 10:38 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. In fact, one can use an old cell phone without service in WiFi areas with full functioning apps. There are many app tools which don't even require connection such as that level. It's just a handy tool to have within the phone. While what you say is true, let's make sure we are clear for those that are "amazed" by these cell phone apps. There are certainly apps that do not a require a network connection to run, but you obviously need a network connection to get them on the phone on the first place - assuming that they didn't come with the phone. In addition, there are basically 3 types of apps: full functionality without a network connection, limited functionality without a network connection, and no useful functionality without a network connection. So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. Obviously, much depends on the app and it's use. The initial install of an app with WiFi isn't an ordeal and a one time procedure and as I stated, no provider is needed. First, no one said installing an app over WiFi was an "ordeal". Second, a provider is most certainly needed. WiFi is a network connection and someone must *provide* that network connection. You don't need a data plan from a data plan provider, such as Verizon or Sprint, but you do need a network connection provider, even if you aren't paying for it. If someone wants an app to search prices, locations, distances or any type of updated service while on the move. then yes, a data connection will be needed IF NOT within WiFi connecting area. Otherwise, it can still be obtained via WiFi when/if they stop where that connection is available. There are many apps which are not a subset Perhaps you don't know the meaning of "subset". subset - a part of a larger group of related things. - a set of which all the elements are contained in another set. If we consider the "set" to be every app in the universe of apps, then a subset is any smaller group of apps contained within that set. "All apps that require a network connection for full functionality" is a subset of the set of all apps. "All apps that give you driving directions" is a subset of the set of all apps. "All apps that tell you if a surface is level" is a subset of the set of all apps. Oh, I almost forgot: "All apps that do not require an network connection to work" is a subset of the set of all apps. and offer great use without any connection. I use many of them. As do most of us. I have an iPad without data and take it with me everywhere. I obviously don't use it while driving but the apps within offer many advantages and usage without connection. And those apps are a subset of the set of all apps. I'm stating this because it appears you are displaying a negative impact on apps as a whole when they can offer great conveniences. My apologies if I'm wrong. While there was no real need to apologize, I have no idea how you got the impression that I was "displaying a negative impact on apps as a whole". First off, grammer-wise, I'm not even sure what "displaying a negative impact" means. Did you perhaps mean "portraying a negative image"? If that's the case, then I still have no idea how you got the impression that I was being negative in any manner. All I did was point out that apps that don't require a network connection for full functionality are a small subset of all available apps. That's not a negative, it just is. Overall, it's up to the user to do their own investigation. |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 18:55:39 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Many seniors have no use for a phone or data plan and the cost that goes with it. They do like the security that allows a call to 911 if needed. The local PD has an occasional collection drive for phones for seniors, manly for 911 ability, Cost them nothing when donated and they can call 911 if necessary. My bride volunteers for the same PD. We gave phones for the cause before. Similar to the fire department getting and collecting and installing new smoke detectors for the elders. Support your local veterans, too. We also give to abused women causes locally. Items for the animal shelters also. |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:16:53 -0000, "Kenny" wrote:
Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? Did I remotely suggest that? |
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On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:26:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it. why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster.... There are two people who come to the local bar, who sit in the back room with a beer, and never srop looking at their phones. Other people have commented on them too. If you try to talk to them, they usually dont even respond, or just give a yes or no answer. I've looked at the screen on their phone and it's mostly facebook. I cant imagine why they even come to the bar. It would be easier and cheaper to just stay home and stare at their phone with a beer. The funny thing, those two are one male, ome female, and they are always together. It's been a joke with others at the bar, that someday those two will get married and spend their honeymoon in a motel staring at facebook on their phones!!! With any luck, they will have intercourse over their phones too, and if any children are born later, the kids will have numerals on them, and will only make beeping sounds..... Smartphones are "The Mark Of The Beast". Soon everyone will have to own one or they will not be able to function. You won't be able to purchase anything because there will be no more cash and your SmartAssPhone will be the only way you can access your bank account. There is a push by the government to do away with tangible currency and switch the economy to electronic money which the feds can turn off if you don't behave yourself. You'll be required to have a SAP,"SmartAssPhone" to travel, to enter buildings, start your vehicle, obtain food and medical care. You won't be able to walk down a street without your SAP since law enforcement will be notified that an unmarked human is loose because the cameras will pick you up without a GPS location signal coming from a SAP. Of course subjects of The Imperial Federal Government could just wind up with an electronic chip implanted in their skulls at birth. Perhaps it's simply a lot of paranoid garbage? o_O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr18UmxOas [8~{} Uncle Paranoid Monster |
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On 3/27/2016 4:06 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Smartphones are "The Mark Of The Beast". Soon everyone will have to own one or they will not be able to function. You won't be able to purchase anything because there will be no more cash and your SmartAssPhone will be the only way you can access your bank account. There is a push by the government to do away with tangible currency and switch the economy to electronic money which the feds can turn off if you don't behave yourself. You'll be required to have a SAP,"SmartAssPhone" to travel, to enter buildings, start your vehicle, obtain food and medical care. You won't be able to walk down a street without your SAP since law enforcement will be notified that an unmarked human is loose because the cameras will pick you up without a GPS location signal coming from a SAP. Of course subjects of The Imperial Federal Government could just wind up with an electronic chip implanted in their skulls at birth. Perhaps it's simply a lot of paranoid garbage? o_O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr18UmxOas [8~{} Uncle Paranoid Monster It's true! I heard it from Aunt Myrtle, who heard it from the hair dresser, who heard it from a CIA guy who comes in for manicures. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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Opens up the question. Is this the kind of GF you wish to be dating? A cell phone addict? Perhaps that is exactly suited to your needs. Me, I'd keep looking. -- . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . she and her son have been here approaching 5 years, in august. the cell phone issue has only arisen recently.... |
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On 03/26/2016 04:16 PM, Kenny wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? In an emergency, seniors won't remember where they put their smartphone. Of course, a smartphone is only useful if the daffy senior remembered to keep it charged up. |
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On 03/25/2016 11:55 AM, KenK wrote:
wrote in news:4j8afblb9acajj6ltnotp36ge1du87jk5l@ 4ax.com: Maybe when they come up with an app, that saws a 2x4 in half and includes a screw gun, electronic hammer, cooks my dinner, cleans my house, and washes my dishes, I'll get one! And sews on buttons! That's extremely important. In the past few weeks I've had to sew on four shirt buttons! In desperation, I'm considering looking around for a woman who knows how to sew and finally getting married. OMG! No, don't do it! It's cheaper to buy new clothes. |
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On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 3:44:37 PM UTC-4, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
On 3/26/16 11:48 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote: On 3/25/2016 8:25 AM, trader_4 wrote: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. I finally found one that doesn't require that. If you can find one in your area, then you can use those neat apps without having a monthly data plan. Otherwise, you're going to have to pay whatever the extra cost for a data plan is. I guess now that's becoming less of an issue, with the plans dropping to $35 - $45. When they were $80+ it was more of an issue. One doesn't need a data plan to use WiFi. Well, as I said, in the past you did if you wanted to use that smartphone on Verizon. They would not put a smartphone on their network without you subscribing to one of their data plans. You could not use their network for only voice/text and go wifi for data. I saw plenty of other people complaining about similar policies from other major carriers. And as I said, that policy may have changed, but that's what it was about 2 1/2 years ago when I left Verizon. This is changing the discussion somewhat. The OP was ANY kind of Internet Access, even Wifi. The OP's post was about Shazam and similar interesting apps, not about how you access the internet on a smartphone. The discussion changed long before I entered it. If all you want is Wifi, then you aren't on Verizon's network and that is easy (after all that is essentially what the iPods are). Now if you want to get one from Verizon, I can see the problem. But we have a bunch of iPhone 4 handsets that have been replaced by newer ones and we still use the 4s for Pandora and other Internet uses. Sure, you can do that. But the vast majority of people are purchasing and using smartphones for use as a cell phone on a cell phone network, ie they need that as a key requirement. And just a few years ago, you couldn't put a smartphone on the Verizon cell network for voice only or voice and text and then use wifi for internet. You had to have a data plan. That was a big issue for many people. It was for me. If I could have done that, I would have switched to a smartphone much earlier and relied on using it at a hotspot for the occasional times I needed internet accesss. But I wasn't going to have one voice phone with Verizon, then buy another smartphone and carry it around, use it only for internet for the once in awhile that I might need it. That doesn't fit my usage model. I can see how it might fit some people's model, but it's not the mainstream usage for smartphones. The vast majority of smartphones are being used with a cell phone plan on a cell phone carrier's network. That's why I posted: Problem is that until recently, every carrier I had experience with, you had to have a data plan with them to use any kind of internet access, even wifi. |
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On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 4:06:54 AM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:26:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: my GF has a smart phone, she spends all her time on it. why did it ring, beep, or bop? must respond immediately.. she looks up all sorts of meaningless stuff, and its big time waster..... There are two people who come to the local bar, who sit in the back room with a beer, and never srop looking at their phones. Other people have commented on them too. If you try to talk to them, they usually dont even respond, or just give a yes or no answer. I've looked at the screen on their phone and it's mostly facebook. I cant imagine why they even come to the bar. It would be easier and cheaper to just stay home and stare at their phone with a beer. The funny thing, those two are one male, ome female, and they are always together. It's been a joke with others at the bar, that someday those two will get married and spend their honeymoon in a motel staring at facebook on their phones!!! With any luck, they will have intercourse over their phones too, and if any children are born later, the kids will have numerals on them, and will only make beeping sounds..... Smartphones are "The Mark Of The Beast". Soon everyone will have to own one or they will not be able to function. You won't be able to purchase anything because there will be no more cash and your SmartAssPhone will be the only way you can access your bank account. There is a push by the government to do away with tangible currency and switch the economy to electronic money which the feds can turn off if you don't behave yourself. You'll be required to have a SAP,"SmartAssPhone" to travel, to enter buildings, start your vehicle, obtain food and medical care. You won't be able to walk down a street without your SAP since law enforcement will be notified that an unmarked human is loose because the cameras will pick you up without a GPS location signal coming from a SAP. Of course subjects of The Imperial Federal Government could just wind up with an electronic chip implanted in their skulls at birth. Perhaps it's simply a lot of paranoid garbage? o_O https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr18UmxOas [8~{} Uncle Paranoid Monster While I was having my coffee, two new examples of the big boot of liberal govt were on the radio news: 1 - A new ban passed by NYC taking effect on e-cigarettes at Yankee Stadium and Citi Field. Once again, the libs just can't get enough of controlling you and your life. They started with banning smoking in most public places, then restaurants, bars, businesses, but they never will be satisfied. So, now, they are starting in on e-cigarettes. Note that I've never smoked cigarettes, but I've never had the need to control what everyone does either. This is a good example of why gun owners believe every law that the libs want to pass is just part of a natural progression to eliminate all guns. 2 - A new law in NY makes it mandatory for doctors to write prescriptions electronically. Again, the whole world is moving there on it's own. My doc started doing it years ago. It's happening, yet again, the libs insist on yet another law, to force it to happen. We've gotting along for 200 years with written ones, yet now they just have to force it down every doctors throats. Again, an example of big govt that just has to get involved. And while I'm on the subject, here's a good example of what big govt is up to. Some years ago, a local gas station did a promo with a local radio station, where they were selling gas at a deep discount. Within hours the state regulators showed up to enforce a law from the 1930s that says it's illegal to sell gasoline below cost. Isn't it interesting that we have a bunch of regulators sitting around, aware of and ready to jump with an hour's notice, to enforce silly laws against such heinous crimes? They are good at persecuting smokers, controlling what we eat, how much salt we can have, what size soda we can buy. And meanwhile in lib utopias like Belgium, they can't find terrorists they knew about since November. They finally caught one 5 days before Brussels got blown up and in all that time, they interrogated him for only 2 hours, and never once asked if there were any other imminent plots in the works. |
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On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 7:49:53 AM UTC-5, Willy wrote:
On 03/26/2016 04:16 PM, Kenny wrote: "Oren" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: So while it is true that users can use "full functioning apps" without a network connection, those apps with be a very small subset of all available apps. +1 Just used the GasBuddy App to find the lowest price diesel in the area. That's one that obviously won't work without a network connection. Others like the bubble level, will. I believe 911 calls will work. People donate older phones to seniors. Are you saying seniors aren't intelligent enough to operate the newer phones? In an emergency, seniors won't remember where they put their smartphone. Of course, a smartphone is only useful if the daffy senior remembered to keep it charged up. Yea, I remember when I was a freshman, the seniors were a bunch of assholes. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Schoolboy Monster |
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