That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!
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Snag

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Work

How many bags of cement, rebar, gloves, tools?

On 10/26/2015 10:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Yikes! Hopefully, it was dropped where you *need* it! We had 4800# of
ceramic tile delivered and they wouldn't come up the (short) driveway.
Moving it from the curb to the back porch in boxes of 9 or 10 tiles at
a time took a fair bit of time and was brutal on the back!

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Work

How many bags of cement, rebar, gloves, tools?

I had 3 bags of typw S delivered , should be enough to know how much more
I'll need . Also got 10 pieces of #3 rebar , that should be enough . I'll be
picking up a bigger trowel , stuff to make a mortar board , odds and ends .
I\ve done a little brick work , this is my first rodeo with blocks . One
thing I've already figured out , my mortar is going to have to be pretty
stiff and I'm going to have to figure out some removeable spacers to keep
the blocks from settling as the mortar sets up . That first course has *GOT*
to be right or everything above will be crap .

--
Snag

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:09:42 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Work

How many bags of cement, rebar, gloves, tools?

I had 3 bags of typw S delivered , should be enough to know how much more
I'll need . Also got 10 pieces of #3 rebar , that should be enough . I'll be
picking up a bigger trowel , stuff to make a mortar board , odds and ends .
I\ve done a little brick work , this is my first rodeo with blocks . One
thing I've already figured out , my mortar is going to have to be pretty
stiff and I'm going to have to figure out some removeable spacers to keep
the blocks from settling as the mortar sets up . That first course has *GOT*
to be right or everything above will be crap .

Yep. the corners (square) and first course are critical. Usually set
up a day or so ahead before you continue up. Don't forget a mason's
line, chalk line, mason's hammer, etc.

Tips for your rodeo:

http://www.masonryforlife.com/HowToBasics.htm

On 10/26/2015 12:23 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!




Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:09:42 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Work

How many bags of cement, rebar, gloves, tools?

I had 3 bags of typw S delivered , should be enough to know how much more
I'll need . Also got 10 pieces of #3 rebar , that should be enough . I'll
be
picking up a bigger trowel , stuff to make a mortar board , odds and ends
.
I\ve done a little brick work , this is my first rodeo with blocks . One
thing I've already figured out , my mortar is going to have to be pretty
stiff and I'm going to have to figure out some removeable spacers to keep
the blocks from settling as the mortar sets up . That first course has
*GOT*
to be right or everything above will be crap .

Yep. the corners (square) and first course are critical. Usually set
up a day or so ahead before you continue up. Don't forget a mason's
line, chalk line, mason's hammer, etc.

Tips for your rodeo:

http://www.masonryforlife.com/HowToBasics.htm

Excellent link , thank you .
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That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Muscle pain; ones you didn't even know you had, back pain, scarred hands,
blocks dropped on fingers, making right angle corners, a mess, mud, crappy
clothes, itchy ass that can't be scratched.

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Tekkie® writes:

Terry Coombs posted for all of us...

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Muscle pain; ones you didn't even know you had, back pain, scarred hands,
blocks dropped on fingers, making right angle corners, a mess, mud, crappy
clothes, itchy ass that can't be scratched.

Bull.

I once moved 13K lbs of just pavers.
A lot more of other kinds of rock, sand, cement.
I was around 55 at the time.

Permanently cured any back pain issues I was having.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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Dan Espen

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:09:42 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Work

How many bags of cement, rebar, gloves, tools?

I had 3 bags of typw S delivered , should be enough to know how much more
I'll need . Also got 10 pieces of #3 rebar , that should be enough . I'll be
picking up a bigger trowel , stuff to make a mortar board , odds and ends .
I\ve done a little brick work , this is my first rodeo with blocks . One
thing I've already figured out , my mortar is going to have to be pretty
stiff and I'm going to have to figure out some removeable spacers to keep
the blocks from settling as the mortar sets up . That first course has *GOT*
to be right or everything above will be crap .

You are right, setting the first course and the piers at the corners
is the trick. "Laying block to the line" down the middle of the wall
is the easy part.

On 2015-10-26 2:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Got a wheel barrow, or garden cart, we aren't as young as we used to be.

--
Froz...

Quando omni flunkus, moritati

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

I am looking at a project where I will be moving about 3 yards of
gravel and 6 or 7 yards of dirt with a wheel barrow. I may get a
machine tho. The problem is if I can actually get it into the place
where the work is.

On 10/26/2015 1:23 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!


Had trees down in back between me and new neighbor.

We split the cost of cutting them down and removing branches and small
stuff and I told him he could keep all the firewood.

That's about the weight of the wood he got and its all downhill.

At first overwhelmed he later realized he'll get it split and stacked
with time eventually.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:23:16 -0400, FrozenNorth
wrote:

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Got a wheel barrow, or garden cart, we aren't as young as we used to be.

Hard to roll a cart or wheel barrow up each flight of stairs as you
work on a 4-5 story building being built. I carried four blocks up and
the other laziest carried two. Sat down with the boss late in the
project and told him why I quit. He was upset I was leaving. Heck, he
could have used mechanical means to lift the blocks. Working on
ground level is rather easy.

Don Y wrote:
On 10/26/2015 10:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Yikes! Hopefully, it was dropped where you *need* it! We had 4800#
of ceramic tile delivered and they wouldn't come up the (short)
driveway. Moving it from the curb to the back porch in boxes of 9 or
10 tiles at a time took a fair bit of time and was brutal on the back!

I wish we could have gotten it where I need it ! I'll be the next week
moving it down the hill to the construction site , about 50 at a time in the
trailer . That's OK though , I think the slab needs that week of cure time

--
Snag

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:57:31 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

I wish we could have gotten it where I need it ! I'll be the next week
moving it down the hill to the construction site , about 50 at a time in the
trailer . That's OK though , I think the slab needs that week of cure time

Are you keeping the slab damp while helping it cure? Covered in
visqueen maybe. The guys that poured the driveway here screwed the
pooch. Because I was a second owner of the house I could not have them
do a do-over, but some neighbors qualified.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:23:14 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at 38
lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!
--
Snag

This is nowhere close to your weight issue, but I ordered 4 rotors and pads
for my Ody, with an expected delivery of last Saturday. On Saturday morning
I raised the van up on jack stands and cribbing and proceeded to take the
brakes apart.

I had just pulled the last rotor when the FedEx driver came up the street.
He was laughing when he got to my house and said "Now I know why these
boxes are so darn heavy!"

I guess 36# boxes are at the high end of their normal package weight.

Good luck with your project!

On 10/26/2015 12:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Don Y wrote:
On 10/26/2015 10:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!

Yikes! Hopefully, it was dropped where you *need* it! We had 4800#
of ceramic tile delivered and they wouldn't come up the (short)
driveway. Moving it from the curb to the back porch in boxes of 9 or
10 tiles at a time took a fair bit of time and was brutal on the back!

I wish we could have gotten it where I need it ! I'll be the next week
moving it down the hill to the construction site , about 50 at a time in the
trailer . That's OK though , I think the slab needs that week of cure time

Well, at least you'll have a trailer! When we moved the tile, it
had to go *through* the house. So, most of it got hand-carried,
a box (9 tiles?) at a time. (no tolerance for breakage since
we had purchased the entire end of the lot!)

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:57:31 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

I wish we could have gotten it where I need it ! I'll be the next
week moving it down the hill to the construction site , about 50 at
a time in the trailer . That's OK though , I think the slab needs
that week of cure time

Are you keeping the slab damp while helping it cure? Covered in
visqueen maybe. The guys that poured the driveway here screwed the
pooch. Because I was a second owner of the house I could not have them
do a do-over, but some neighbors qualified.

Yup , been spraying it a couple-three times a day . We've had reasonably
cool weather , rained the last 3 days .
I've got the first 70 blocks on my utility trailer , ready to pull down
there with the truck . At least I got that part figured out .
--
Snag

On 10/26/2015 01:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end




Well...I still can haul 170# up and down several flights of stairs many
times a day.


Myself.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:14:10 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Are you keeping the slab damp while helping it cure? Covered in
visqueen maybe. The guys that poured the driveway here screwed the
pooch. Because I was a second owner of the house I could not have them
do a do-over, but some neighbors qualified.

Yup , been spraying it a couple-three times a day . We've had reasonably
cool weather , rained the last 3 days .
I've got the first 70 blocks on my utility trailer , ready to pull down
there with the truck . At least I got that part figured out .

Good deal. At the first corners course use the 3-4-5 method to square
for the 90º corner and pop a chalk line. (6-8-10 -- 12-16-20, etc.)

Basic:

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-the-3-4-5-Rule-to-Build-Square-Corners

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:26:59 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 01:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Well...I still can haul 170# up and down several flights of stairs many
times a day.

Myself.

How many blocks added to that skinny frame you have

On 10/26/2015 04:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:26:59 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 01:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Well...I still can haul 170# up and down several flights of stairs many
times a day.

Myself.

How many blocks added to that skinny frame you have




I am not skinny....but I've only gained about ten pounds since the day I
got out of the Army 45 years ago.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I had just pulled the last rotor when the FedEx driver came up the street.
He was laughing when he got to my house and said "Now I know why these
boxes are so darn heavy!"

I guess 36# boxes are at the high end of their normal package weight.


I bet the UPS man wondered what was in a box that was about 2 feet square
and 3 feet long that came the other day. It was a piece of electronic test
gear that weighs around 70 lb I ordered off ebay.

I think at one time either 70 or 80 lb was their limit, but may be double
that now.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:54:50 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 04:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:26:59 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 01:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Well...I still can haul 170# up and down several flights of stairs many
times a day.

Myself.

How many blocks added to that skinny frame you have

I am not skinny....but I've only gained about ten pounds since the day I
got out of the Army 45 years ago.

You make us envious. I was 160# when drafted. Now as big as my father.
I have the frame to carry it.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:00:23 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I had just pulled the last rotor when the FedEx driver came up the street.
He was laughing when he got to my house and said "Now I know why these
boxes are so darn heavy!"

I guess 36# boxes are at the high end of their normal package weight.


I bet the UPS man wondered what was in a box that was about 2 feet square
and 3 feet long that came the other day. It was a piece of electronic test
gear that weighs around 70 lb I ordered off ebay.

I think at one time either 70 or 80 lb was their limit, but may be double
that now.


The way I understand it the "regular" drivers will do up to 70# and
they will do up to 150# (they send a different truck with 2 guys).
Beyond that you are in the "freight" category. That is scary
expensive. (hundreds for a lift gate truck)

On 10/26/2015 05:14 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:54:50 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 04:50 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:26:59 -0500, philo wrote:

On 10/26/2015 01:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:24:51 -0500, philo wrote:

Make it easy on yourself and only carry 500# at a time.

"A standard gray 8-inch-by-8-inch-by-16-inch cinder block weighs about
37 pounds." Back in the day, I could only carry four at a time. I was
a worn out young man by days end

Well...I still can haul 170# up and down several flights of stairs many
times a day.

Myself.

How many blocks added to that skinny frame you have

I am not skinny....but I've only gained about ten pounds since the day I
got out of the Army 45 years ago.

You make us envious. I was 160# when drafted. Now as big as my father.
I have the frame to carry it.



Be glad you still have a father, mine is ashes.

I threw him in the lake, or what was left of him.


I was up to 180 right after I had my knees replaced...but when I could
start running around again I went back to 170


****ed my wife off that I could drop ten pounds in a couple of weeks.

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:14:10 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Are you keeping the slab damp while helping it cure? Covered in
visqueen maybe. The guys that poured the driveway here screwed the
pooch. Because I was a second owner of the house I could not have
them do a do-over, but some neighbors qualified.

Yup , been spraying it a couple-three times a day . We've had
reasonably cool weather , rained the last 3 days .
I've got the first 70 blocks on my utility trailer , ready to pull
down there with the truck . At least I got that part figured out .

Good deal. At the first corners course use the 3-4-5 method to square
for the 90º corner and pop a chalk line. (6-8-10 -- 12-16-20, etc.)

Basic:

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-the-3-4-5-Rule-to-Build-Square-Corners

The slab is within 1/8" of square on a corner/corner measurement . One long
side has a slight bulge in the middle , I'll have a string there to follow .
But a chalk line on the inside is a good idea .

--
Snag

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:37:42 -0500, philo wrote:

You make us envious. I was 160# when drafted. Now as big as my father.
I have the frame to carry it.

Be glad you still have a father, mine is ashes.

Dad is long gone, many years ago.

I threw him in the lake, or what was left of him.

I was up to 180 right after I had my knees replaced...but when I could
start running around again I went back to 170

I'm 6'2" @ less than 250# -- his size. I made a baby that was 9 lbs,
14 ounces. We grow big.

****ed my wife off that I could drop ten pounds in a couple of weeks.

Lucky you.

On 10/26/2015 06:03 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:37:42 -0500, philo wrote:

You make us envious. I was 160# when drafted. Now as big as my father.
I have the frame to carry it.

Be glad you still have a father, mine is ashes.

Dad is long gone, many years ago.

I threw him in the lake, or what was left of him.

I was up to 180 right after I had my knees replaced...but when I could
start running around again I went back to 170

I'm 6'2" @ less than 250# -- his size. I made a baby that was 9 lbs,
14 ounces. We grow big.

****ed my wife off that I could drop ten pounds in a couple of weeks.

Lucky you.




well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny


but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's just the way I'm built I guess

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
...
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had delivered at
38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!
--
Snag



A couple of years ago I ordered a tandem load of gravel fill for a turning
leg that I was building off my driveway, I got over 28,000 pounds and had to
move it all by wheelbarrow.

EXT wrote:
"Terry Coombs" wrote in message
...
That's the calculated weight of the load of block I just had
delivered at 38 lbs per . What in hell have I gotten myelf into !?!
--
Snag



A couple of years ago I ordered a tandem load of gravel fill for a
turning leg that I was building off my driveway, I got over 28,000
pounds and had to move it all by wheelbarrow.

I had 7 yards of crushed limestone delivered , I spread it out on my
driveway with my JD 317 garden tractor . Best 25 bucks I ever spent ... well
, there's a few bucks for parts , and I'm into it for a few hundred now .
With the hydraulic blade on the front and chains it also cleans our road to
the highway in winter .

--
Snag

On 10/26/2015 6:18 PM, philo wrote:
On 10/26/2015 06:03 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:37:42 -0500, philo wrote:

You make us envious. I was 160# when drafted. Now as big as my father.
I have the frame to carry it.

Be glad you still have a father, mine is ashes.

Dad is long gone, many years ago.

I threw him in the lake, or what was left of him.

I was up to 180 right after I had my knees replaced...but when I could
start running around again I went back to 170

I'm 6'2" @ less than 250# -- his size. I made a baby that was 9 lbs,
14 ounces. We grow big.

****ed my wife off that I could drop ten pounds in a couple of weeks.

Lucky you.




well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny


but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's just the way I'm built I guess

CDC says most of us are fat. I was the thinnest (least overweight)
waiting in the checkout line at Walmart the other day.
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/ass...alculator.html

No way I can fit in the Army uniform I got 47 years ago. Time does
fly when you're having fun.

On 10/26/2015 4:18 PM, philo wrote:

I was up to 180 right after I had my knees replaced...but when I could
start running around again I went back to 170

I'm 6'2" @ less than 250# -- his size. I made a baby that was 9 lbs,
14 ounces. We grow big.

****ed my wife off that I could drop ten pounds in a couple of weeks.

SWMBO gets annoyed because I lose weight when I eat ice cream!
The more I eat, the more I lose.

(of course, the fact that I tend to *only* eat ice cream at these
times probably plays a role!)

Lucky you.

well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny

but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category either...that's
just the way I'm built I guess

I think you would be surprised at what the MD's consider "normal weight"
to be! I'm 165-175 at pretty much 6' and the 175 gets pretty close to
borderline "overweight". Always want to ask the MD to step on the scale
while he's "frowning" at me! :-/

There are tables that can give you a nominal idea of what your weight
"should" be. But, you really need to have a specific assessment as
percent muscle and percent fat are very different issues. Heavy
and muscular is preferable to heavy and flabby.

[Also amusing how much more tolerance there is for extra weight
among women in those calculations! Different body composition!]

On 10/27/2015 04:14 AM, Since You Axed wrote:


but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's just the way I'm built I guess

CDC says most of us are fat. I was the thinnest (least overweight)
waiting in the checkout line at Walmart the other day.
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/ass...alculator.html

No way I can fit in the Army uniform I got 47 years ago. Time does
fly when you're having fun.



I'm 66 years old and for me that 170# is not bad...no doctor has ever
said I need to loose weight.

Possibly what ****es my wife off the most is that I eat (seemingly)
continuously. I must have 5 meals a day.


One thing I have noticed with some skinny people my age is that they
have some kind of health problem.

On 10/27/2015 05:14 AM, Don Y wrote:

(of course, the fact that I tend to *only* eat ice cream at these
times probably plays a role!)



There's one thing I don't do . I almost never have a dessert or junk
food. I also quit drinking many years ago...so between that and the fact
that I absolutely cannot sit still...keeps my weight down.

Lucky you.

well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny

but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's
just the way I'm built I guess

I think you would be surprised at what the MD's consider "normal weight"
to be! I'm 165-175 at pretty much 6' and the 175 gets pretty close to
borderline "overweight". Always want to ask the MD to step on the scale
while he's "frowning" at me! :-/

There are tables that can give you a nominal idea of what your weight
"should" be. But, you really need to have a specific assessment as
percent muscle and percent fat are very different issues. Heavy
and muscular is preferable to heavy and flabby.



By any chart I'm over weight but I know I really have just a small
amount of flab.

I rarely weight myself and judge things by what belt loop I use.

On 10/27/2015 3:28 AM, philo wrote:
On 10/27/2015 05:14 AM, Don Y wrote:

(of course, the fact that I tend to *only* eat ice cream at these
times probably plays a role!)

There's one thing I don't do . I almost never have a dessert or junk food. I
also quit drinking many years ago...so between that and the fact that I
absolutely cannot sit still...keeps my weight down.

I eat "somewhat" healthy -- still too much red meat for what the MD would
like (I think he'd have me eating sawdust if he could!). No sweets
(despite baking virtually every week -- for others! E.g., 50 pounds of
flour will disappear between now and the holiday) -- my sole indulgence
being ice cream. But, must be *homemade* which makes it much harder
to come by (I have to plan ahead to make it and allow a few *days*
before I can "indulge").

While my vocation is largely "desk work", I regularly am involved in
yardwork, home repairs, assisting neighbors, etc. -- so, I get off
my *ss pretty regularly and "break into a sweat".

For regular exercise, I walk 3.8 miles each day (in 56 minutes -- 33%
faster than "average").

My biggest risk factor is poor sleep habits; why sleep when there are
so many interesting things to do?? :

Lucky you.

well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny

but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's
just the way I'm built I guess

I think you would be surprised at what the MD's consider "normal weight"
to be! I'm 165-175 at pretty much 6' and the 175 gets pretty close to
borderline "overweight". Always want to ask the MD to step on the scale
while he's "frowning" at me! :-/

There are tables that can give you a nominal idea of what your weight
"should" be. But, you really need to have a specific assessment as
percent muscle and percent fat are very different issues. Heavy
and muscular is preferable to heavy and flabby.

By any chart I'm over weight but I know I really have just a small amount of flab.

I rarely weight myself and judge things by what belt loop I use.

SWMBO gets annoyed that I can take off my pants without unbuckling/unzipping.
"No hips" -- doesn't matter what size I wear, the "shape" is the deciding
factor in that regard.

(wearing a belt actually makes things worse as the added weight of
the belt buckle *drags* my pants down. Trips to Home Depot are
particularly risky as both hands are typically busy holding a piece
of lumber, bag of Quickrete, etc. -- no free hands to pull the
pants back up when they start creeping down!)

On 10/27/2015 01:42 PM, Don Y wrote:
X 56 minutes -- 33%
faster than "average").

My biggest risk factor is poor sleep habits; why sleep when there are
so many interesting things to do?? :



Yeah, I'm usually out of bed at 4am

but do take at least one short nap during the day.




Lucky you.

well. I'm only 5' 6" so that's why I said at 170# I'm not skinny

but for me that 170# does not put me in the overweight category
either...that's
just the way I'm built I guess

I think you would be surprised at what the MD's consider "normal weight"
to be! I'm 165-175 at pretty much 6' and the 175 gets pretty close to
borderline "overweight". Always want to ask the MD to step on the scale
while he's "frowning" at me! :-/

There are tables that can give you a nominal idea of what your weight
"should" be. But, you really need to have a specific assessment as
percent muscle and percent fat are very different issues. Heavy
and muscular is preferable to heavy and flabby.

By any chart I'm over weight but I know I really have just a small
amount of flab.

I rarely weight myself and judge things by what belt loop I use.

SWMBO gets annoyed that I can take off my pants without
unbuckling/unzipping.
"No hips" -- doesn't matter what size I wear, the "shape" is the deciding
factor in that regard.

(wearing a belt actually makes things worse as the added weight of
the belt buckle *drags* my pants down. Trips to Home Depot are
particularly risky as both hands are typically busy holding a piece
of lumber, bag of Quickrete, etc. -- no free hands to pull the
pants back up when they start creeping down!)

On 10/28/2015 8:01 AM, philo wrote:
On 10/27/2015 01:42 PM, Don Y wrote:
X 56 minutes -- 33%
faster than "average").

My biggest risk factor is poor sleep habits; why sleep when there are
so many interesting things to do?? :

Yeah, I'm usually out of bed at 4am

That's more like when I head *into* bed (e.g., last night was 6A).
Yet, 3 hours later I'm back at work! :-/

but do take at least one short nap during the day.