http://www.harborfreight.com/18-volt...ver-62421.html

I got a call yesterday, to secure some sheet
metal that was a safety hazzard, on a door.

Entirely to my surprise, the reality was just about
what had been called in. Most times, the customer
complaint and what I find are different.

A couple of C clamps bent the sheet metal back to
shape, and then a HF impact driver and some self
drilling screws (also from HF) put things back
into shape.

The driver spins a couple hundred RPM, easily fast
enough for the drill point to work. And then, the
rattle gun comes into action when the screw starts
to bind a bit. The rattle action does better than
just drilling, for some reason.

Manager approved, signed off, and I get paid by
and by. Net Whenever.

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On 2015-08-08, bob haller wrote:

black and decker made anything of high quality???

Once upon a time!

I have a B&D 3/8" var spd drill motor that's half plastic and half
metal. I used it to remove engine paint w/ a brass wire wheel. I'd
put the trigger lock on and run it until it was too hot to hold. This
went on for two days. Though it was 25 yrs ago, I still have it and
it still works fine.

Today, I won't even look at a B&D product.

nb

On 8 Aug 2015 14:16:39 GMT, notbob wrote:

black and decker made anything of high quality???

Once upon a time!

I have a B&D 3/8" var spd drill motor that's half plastic and half
metal. I used it to remove engine paint w/ a brass wire wheel. I'd
put the trigger lock on and run it until it was too hot to hold. This
went on for two days. Though it was 25 yrs ago, I still have it and
it still works fine.


I still have a B&D 3/8" drill since I was a teen. Back then they
didn't have model numbers, per se, but a code. I haven't used it many
decades. Plugged it in some years ago and it wouldn't spin. It may
be a broken cord wire, a bad trigger switch or stuck brushes. Have not
pulled it apart to check. Just a dust collector.

Today, I won't even look at a B&D product.

Same here. A more recent B&D circle saw (old - old) I gave away. Cut
a few pavers with it and the bearing filled with dust -- what an awful
noise

On 2015-08-08, Muggles wrote:

I don't have my own drill yet, but maybe I'll get
one of those and a circular saw next.

If yer talkin' battery powered, get an impact driver/drill.

I made the mistake of buying an 18V DeWalt battery drill thinking it
would be enough. Turns out I hadda pre-drill screw holes if I used
this drill to drive screws like 3-1/2" deck screws. I later learned
an impact drill/driver would drive a deck screw w/o pre-drilling. I
now have an old used 12V Hitachi impact/driver drill that does what my
DeWalt could never do ....plus!, it will also drill!

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/

nb

On 8/8/2015 12:16 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-08-08, Muggles wrote:

I don't have my own drill yet, but maybe I'll get
one of those and a circular saw next.

If yer talkin' battery powered, get an impact driver/drill.

I made the mistake of buying an 18V DeWalt battery drill thinking it
would be enough. Turns out I hadda pre-drill screw holes if I used
this drill to drive screws like 3-1/2" deck screws. I later learned
an impact drill/driver would drive a deck screw w/o pre-drilling. I
now have an old used 12V Hitachi impact/driver drill that does what my
DeWalt could never do ....plus!, it will also drill!

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/

nb


I'd really like to have an impact drill of my own because I've used one
when we built a couple of different decks in the back yard. One was a
pool deck with a stairs and a couple levels to it, and the other a flat
deck with a pergola to shade it. The impact drill was better at putting
in the screws like you said. The circular saw is a tool I haven't really
used, yet, though. They kind of scare me, but the Ryobi has a smaller
version for the 18v battery which I could use and get used to before
trying a big circular saw.

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Maggie

On 8/8/2015 1:16 PM, notbob wrote:
If yer talkin' battery powered, get an impact driver/drill.

I made the mistake of buying an 18V DeWalt battery drill thinking it
would be enough. Turns out I hadda pre-drill screw holes if I used
this drill to drive screws like 3-1/2" deck screws. I later learned
an impact drill/driver would drive a deck screw w/o pre-drilling. I
now have an old used 12V Hitachi impact/driver drill that does what my
DeWalt could never do ....plus!, it will also drill!

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/

nb


I've got some old cow teat syringes (plastic, about 5CC)
which I load with vaseline or marine grease. Squirt a bit
into the pilot hole, and that makes life a lot smoother.

I'd be concerned about needing to remove the screws later,
and them being in too tightly.


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On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

i have some stanly black and yellow screwdrivers that have been unbelievably great, and have lasted forever

Forever has not arrived yet.

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 14:09:05 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I've got some old cow teat syringes (plastic, about 5CC)
which I load with vaseline or marine grease. Squirt a bit
into the pilot hole, and that makes life a lot smoother.

Rub the screw threads across a bar of lanolin soap.

Easy greasy - it's a long slide home.

On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:09:01 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/8/2015 1:16 PM, notbob wrote:
If yer talkin' battery powered, get an impact driver/drill.

I made the mistake of buying an 18V DeWalt battery drill thinking it
would be enough. Turns out I hadda pre-drill screw holes if I used
this drill to drive screws like 3-1/2" deck screws. I later learned
an impact drill/driver would drive a deck screw w/o pre-drilling. I
now have an old used 12V Hitachi impact/driver drill that does what my
DeWalt could never do ....plus!, it will also drill!

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/

nb


I've got some old cow teat syringes (plastic, about 5CC)
which I load with vaseline or marine grease. Squirt a bit
into the pilot hole, and that makes life a lot smoother.

I'd be concerned about needing to remove the screws later,
and them being in too tightly.

--

Here's what I use, it works for all kinds of things and once you have some, you'll never understand why you've never used any before. It's "Saw Wax". ^_^

http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G4413-.../dp/B0000DD2JY

[8~{} Uncle Lube Monster

On 8/8/2015 8:37 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:09:01 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I'd be concerned about needing to remove the screws later,
and them being in too tightly.

--

Here's what I use, it works for all kinds of things and once you have some, you'll never understand why you've never used any before. It's "Saw Wax". ^_^

http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G4413-.../dp/B0000DD2JY

[8~{} Uncle Lube Monster


One time when I got to put some tapcons in cement,
needed lube. The hardware had wax like this, bout
six bucks. Finally figured out to use lip balm from
Dollar Tree, two fer buck.

Probably doesn't work as well?

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learn more about Jesus
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On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 8:43:47 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/8/2015 8:37 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:09:01 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I'd be concerned about needing to remove the screws later,
and them being in too tightly.

--

Here's what I use, it works for all kinds of things and once you have some, you'll never understand why you've never used any before. It's "Saw Wax". ^_^

http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G4413-.../dp/B0000DD2JY

[8~{} Uncle Lube Monster


One time when I got to put some tapcons in cement,
needed lube. The hardware had wax like this, bout
six bucks. Finally figured out to use lip balm from
Dollar Tree, two fer buck.

Probably doesn't work as well?
--
.
The lip balm makes your screws more kissable. ʘ€¿Ê˜

With all the talk of screwing going on in this group, I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before.....Um, that sentence might be taken the wrong way. Anyway, we both keep a stick of saw wax in our respective tool boxes. I dip the end of a drill bit or screw into the wax, it only takes a small dab of wax before drilling into most materials or running screws of any sort into any kind of material, except when I use thread-locker.. The wax also has anti-seize properties for screws and bolts. A bit of wax on a tap makes it easier to cut threads into any metal or other material and you're less likely to break the tap. Rub the stick against a saw blade on both sides before making a cut in wood, plastic or metal and the cutting action will be much smoother. It works well on jigsaw or reciprocating saw blades as well as hacksaw and circular saw blades. There is a special lube stick that's similar for dual saws but meant for use in those type saws. If you have a metal or wood door that's sticking, rub a bit of saw wax on the surface that's rubbing and it will alleviate the problem. It's also good for lubricating sticking drawers and drawer slides. It even works on zippers without damaging a plastic zipper or clothing. Once you obtain a tube of the the stuff, you'll wonder where it was all your life. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Wax Monster

On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

He's busy taking up my slack. He told me got interested in other things right now that are taking up his time. One of those things has frontal mammary units. I fear for his freedom and safety. �̯͡�﴿

[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

He's busy taking up my slack. He told me got interested in other things right now that are taking up his time. One of those things has frontal mammary units. I fear for his freedom and safety. ?????

[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster

Sounds like he can get his eyes poked out. That can be dangerous,
sharp instruments and all.

On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:26:50 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

He's busy taking up my slack. He told me got interested in other things right now that are taking up his time. One of those things has frontal mammary units. I fear for his freedom and safety. ?????

[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster

Sounds like he can get his eyes poked out. That can be dangerous,
sharp instruments and all.

....as I said when monster arrived, DD has passed from the planet...and for whatever reason monster is playing the "role". DD would have gotten back to his friends here, not me but others. Others must feel this (oh no, I said *feel* sorry Oren).

On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 4:26:50 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 19:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

He's busy taking up my slack. He told me got interested in other things right now that are taking up his time. One of those things has frontal mammary units. I fear for his freedom and safety. ?????

[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster

Sounds like he can get his eyes poked out. That can be dangerous,
sharp instruments and all.

...as I said when monster arrived, DD has passed from the planet...and for whatever reason monster is playing the "role". DD would have gotten back to his friends here, not me but others. Others must feel this (oh no, I said *feel* sorry Oren).

Derby Dad "DD" is a nice guy and I hope he hasn't passed away. The Daring Dufas "TDD" is my brother and is quite alive. He's simply taking a vacation from Usenet just like I did. Usenet takes up a lot of time which is why I dropped out for a while. I was fraking busy before I wound up in the hospital and nursing home. Both of us used to have a blast tag teaming uber-trolls in technology related groups and the worst troll vanished thanks to an adorable little Canuck named Robert. My brother says high to all his friends and enemas and hopes you're all having fun but he's just as stubborn as I am and he shall return to Usenet when he's damn good and ready. The only reason I returned is because I'm sitting in a hospital bed and can't chase women so I was in need of entertainment. Ù©(�Ž�›á´—�›�Ž)Û¶

[8~{} Uncle Bored Monster

On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 11:44:11 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:

...as I said when monster arrived, DD has passed from the planet...and for whatever reason monster is playing the "role". DD would have gotten back to his friends here, not me but others. Others must feel this (oh no, I said *feel* sorry Oren).

Derby Dad "DD" is a nice guy and I hope he hasn't passed away. The Daring Dufas "TDD" is my brother and is quite alive. He's simply taking a vacation from Usenet just like I did. Usenet takes up a lot of time which is why I dropped out for a while. I was fraking busy before I wound up in the hospital and nursing home. Both of us used to have a blast tag teaming uber-trolls in technology related groups and the worst troll vanished thanks to an adorable little Canuck named Robert. My brother says high to all his friends and enemas and hopes you're all having fun but he's just as stubborn as I am and he shall return to Usenet when he's damn good and ready. The only reason I returned is because I'm sitting in a hospital bed and can't chase women so I was in need of entertainment. Ù©(�Ž�›á´—�›�Ž)Û¶

[8~{} Uncle Bored Monster

Get a hold of Bob the Canuck to rid us of the wart on our bum! Here's the thing...Dufus is in nearly as bad a shape as you...and he's suppose to be taking-up your slack? Also, after being here for so many yrs...he would have stopped by...somehow. ¯\_(Š™ï¸¿Š™)_/¯

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...



On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 5:03:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:07:09 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I'm surprised my brother never told you of this lubricant before

I'm surprised you haven't told US where Dufas is. Why he isn't back
here, yet!! He has had plenty of time to fix his machine and come
back.

He's busy taking up my slack. He told me got interested in other things right now that are taking up his time. One of those things has frontal mammary units. I fear for his freedom and safety. ?????

[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster

He's lost...

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[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster AKA The Daring Dufas

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-5, Zak W wrote:
[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster AKA The Daring Dufas

No, the original had a bigger heart! ヽ༼ಢ_ಢ༽ﾉ˜‚

On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 6:55:43 AM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 11:44:11 PM UTC-5, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:

...as I said when monster arrived, DD has passed from the planet...and for whatever reason monster is playing the "role". DD would have gotten back to his friends here, not me but others. Others must feel this (oh no, I said *feel* sorry Oren).

Derby Dad "DD" is a nice guy and I hope he hasn't passed away. The Daring Dufas "TDD" is my brother and is quite alive. He's simply taking a vacation from Usenet just like I did. Usenet takes up a lot of time which is why I dropped out for a while. I was fraking busy before I wound up in the hospital and nursing home. Both of us used to have a blast tag teaming uber-trolls in technology related groups and the worst troll vanished thanks to an adorable little Canuck named Robert. My brother says high to all his friends and enemas and hopes you're all having fun but he's just as stubborn as I am and he shall return to Usenet when he's damn good and ready. The only reason I returned is because I'm sitting in a hospital bed and can't chase women so I was in need of entertainment. Ù©(�Ž�›á´—�›�Ž)Û¶

[8~{} Uncle Bored Monster

Get a hold of Bob the Canuck to rid us of the wart on our bum! Here's the thing...Dufus is in nearly as bad a shape as you...and he's suppose to be taking-up your slack? Also, after being here for so many yrs...he would have stopped by...somehow. ¯\_(Š™ï¸¿Š™)_/¯

My brother can walk but can't run up and down ladders like we both did at one time. If I could walk, I'd be working by getting wire pulling monkeys to do the ladder work. I could probably crawl around on the floor to get at jacks and wiring devices but I can't crawl everywhere. (Š™_˜‰)

[8~{} Uncle Stationary Monster

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 7:56:55 AM UTC-5, bob_villa wrote:
On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 7:08:59 AM UTC-5, Zak W wrote:
[8~{} Uncle Frightened Monster AKA The Daring Dufas

No, the original had a bigger heart! ヽ༼ಢ_ಢ༽ﾉ˜‚

We both have enlarged hearts according to doctors. The difference between us is that I'm more frustrated and angry at not being able to get up and go.á•™(‡€€¸†¼€¶)á•—

[8~{} Uncle ****ed Off Monster

On 8/18/2015 9:27 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

We both have enlarged hearts according to doctors. The difference between us is that I'm more frustrated and angry at not being able to get up and go.á•™(‡€€¸†¼€¶)á•—

[8~{} Uncle ****ed Off Monster


How about a Harbor freight heart, 20% off with coupon.

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