11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:03:54 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Do not let it worry you Duf- Governor Brokely and the Loongislature
will save us..
--
Mr.E

On 1/28/2014 11:03 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

Weather is what you dress for. Climate is what you build for. Over
time, the average temperatures in most parts of the world are getting
warmer. In my part of Minnesota, it's a full climate zone warmer than
it was back in the 1980s. The reason everyone went bananas over this
cold snap is because it has been so many years since we had this kind
of cold weather. It used to be routine. Now it's a crisis.

On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Been shoveling global warming all winter.
Somebody told me it normally snows in winter but I saw it one summer in
Cleveland 50 years ago. Maybe that's when global warming started.

On 1/28/2014 12:01 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills,
car accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting
employees go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up
again? I'm freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Been shoveling global warming all winter. Somebody told me it
normally snows in winter but I saw it one summer in Cleveland 50
years ago. Maybe that's when global warming started.

Chaos is the normal climate for the planet. We're just spoiled because
it's been fairly mild over the past several generations. ^_^

TDD

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:03:54 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

The Blind Date

Guy gets cold sitting under a vent in a restaurant.

http://www.toilette-humor.com/funny_adult_videos/the_blind_date.shtml

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:01:42 -0500, Frank
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Been shoveling global warming all winter.
Somebody told me it normally snows in winter but I saw it one summer in
Cleveland 50 years ago. Maybe that's when global warming started.

The fix is in. Al Gore has been located.

"...Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Gore said
contraception is a key tool in the fight against climate change.

Gore and Microsoft founder Bill Gates both made the case that
overpopulation is one factor that is driving global warming."

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/28/al-gore-contraception-key-tool-combating-climate-change

--
Liberals are like Chameleons. They keep changing colors. -- © Oren

On 1/28/2014 1:16 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:01 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills,
car accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting
employees go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up
again? I'm freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Been shoveling global warming all winter. Somebody told me it
normally snows in winter but I saw it one summer in Cleveland 50
years ago. Maybe that's when global warming started.

Chaos is the normal climate for the planet. We're just spoiled because
it's been fairly mild over the past several generations. ^_^

TDD

That's what has made me a global warming skeptic when you look at
temperature changes over the eons. There was plenty of global warming
and cooling even before the days of Fred Flintstone.

"Moe DeLoughan" wrote in message
...
On 1/28/2014 11:03 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

Weather is what you dress for. Climate is what you build for. Over
time, the average temperatures in most parts of the world are getting
warmer. In my part of Minnesota, it's a full climate zone warmer than
it was back in the 1980s. The reason everyone went bananas over this
cold snap is because it has been so many years since we had this kind
of cold weather. It used to be routine. Now it's a crisis.


--
There has been no warming for 16 years.
Climate change/mad made global warming is a hoax for
Al and friends to pocket big bucks.
Have you noticed none of the warming preachers
live a life that would help stop it?

On 1/28/2014 2:58 PM, Frank wrote:

That's what has made me a global warming skeptic when you look at
temperature changes over the eons. There was plenty of global warming
and cooling even before the days of Fred Flintstone.

AGW climatologist portray things from a closed loop and static point
of view. Their paychecks are given by those whom wish to profit
without risk. Ergo, their science is outcome based. Rather than
finding out how things work, they find out ways of proving how to
make a data set prove their postulation(s). They are not ashamed of
blatantly fudging their data since their work will not be peer
reviewed by people whom disagree with the outcome, or are actually
trained in the field and have a public platform to readily debunk
their erroneous claims.

In essence, they should be shot.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:58:58 -0500, Frank
wrote in

That's what has made me a global warming skeptic when you look at
temperature changes over the eons. There was plenty of global warming
and cooling even before the days of Fred Flintstone.

Exactly.
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:55:43 -0800, Oren wrote in


Gore and Microsoft founder Bill Gates both made the case that
overpopulation is one factor that is driving global warming."

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/28/al-gore-contraception-key-tool-combating-climate-change

As much as I consider Gore a buffoon, he and Gates are right, IMO,
about global population growth being a major global problem. Take a
look at China and India. They are the major sources of global
population growth and pollution.

There is no way that they are going to cut back.
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

In article ,
CRNG wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:58:58 -0500, Frank
wrote in

That's what has made me a global warming skeptic when you look at
temperature changes over the eons. There was plenty of global warming
and cooling even before the days of Fred Flintstone.

Exactly.

Never have been able to figure out why government funded research is
automatically Good while industry-funded research is automatically
suspect. I come out of healthcare where there is ample evidence that NIH
spending is very much related to politics instead of number of people
impacted, costs to the system, or Quality Adjusted Patient Year.
--
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
-- Aaron Levenstein

In article ,
CRNG wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:55:43 -0800, Oren wrote in


Gore and Microsoft founder Bill Gates both made the case that
overpopulation is one factor that is driving global warming."

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/28...-tool-combatin
g-climate-change

As much as I consider Gore a buffoon, he and Gates are right, IMO,
about global population growth being a major global problem. Take a
look at China and India. They are the major sources of global
population growth and pollution.

There is no way that they are going to cut back.

But they also don't need to be so poluting. That is a governmental
decision. If anything, they are in a better position to go greenish
because they don't have the infrastructure sunk costs we do.
--
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
-- Aaron Levenstein

On 1/28/2014 11:03 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being told they
should leave their children at school if they can't safely get to the
school to pick them up. The governor had a news conference about the
state of emergency where he has called out some of the National Guard
and the State Emergency Management Agency has activated all its
resources. The ice and snow was forecast to hit the Southern part of the
state so most of the limited snow clearing equipment was sent South
and will take days to make it back to Northern Alabama. We aren't used
to this nonsense and folks from The South don't know how to drive on ice
and snow so the frigging roads are clogged. Birmingham is a mountainous
area with a lot of hills and vehicles can't get up the hills and are
sliding down them. People are being asked to stay off the roads but
there are those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of pulling out
of the driveway. o_O

TDD

On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Due to "climate change" it's always your fault,
regardless of what happens.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 1/28/2014 4:10 PM, BurfordTJustice wrote:

Weather is what you dress for. Climate is what you build for. Over
time, the average temperatures in most parts of the world are getting
warmer. In my part of Minnesota, it's a full climate zone warmer than
it was back in the 1980s. The reason everyone went bananas over this
cold snap is because it has been so many years since we had this kind
of cold weather. It used to be routine. Now it's a crisis.

Worse than crisis, it's cause to regulate the US
even more than before.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being told they
should leave their children at school if they can't safely get to the
school to pick them up. The governor had a news conference about the
state of emergency where he has called out some of the National Guard
and the State Emergency Management Agency has activated all its
resources. The ice and snow was forecast to hit the Southern part of the
state so most of the limited snow clearing equipment was sent South
and will take days to make it back to Northern Alabama. We aren't used
to this nonsense and folks from The South don't know how to drive on ice
and snow so the frigging roads are clogged. Birmingham is a mountainous
area with a lot of hills and vehicles can't get up the hills and are
sliding down them. People are being asked to stay off the roads but
there are those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of pulling out
of the driveway. o_O

TDD

There are a few safe drivers in PRNY, but very few.
I get out on the road, and people fly by me, on
either right or left, but most often the right.
When possible, I do stay home.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Let's go back to the late 1970s, and the forgotten but official term for what is allegedly happening: CLIMATE CHANGE.


Some IDIOT in the media coined the term "global warming" in the '80s and they ran with it.

What is actually happening?

IMO, Earth and women both have periods. Earth is going through one right now. They can last years, or even decades.

I'm in CT. Summers are hot, winters c

Let's go back to the late 1970s, and the forgotten but official term for what is allegedly happening: CLIMATE CHANGE.


Some IDIOT in the media coined the term "global warming" in the '80s and they ran with it.

What is actually happening?

IMO, Earth and women both have periods. Earth is going through one right now. They can last years, or even decades.

I'm in CT. Summers are hot, winters cold & snowy. Business as usual.

Move along.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:10:48 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote:


"Moe DeLoughan" wrote in message
...
On 1/28/2014 11:03 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills, car
accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting employees
go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up again? I'm
freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

Weather is what you dress for. Climate is what you build for. Over
time, the average temperatures in most parts of the world are getting
warmer. In my part of Minnesota, it's a full climate zone warmer than
it was back in the 1980s. The reason everyone went bananas over this
cold snap is because it has been so many years since we had this kind
of cold weather. It used to be routine. Now it's a crisis.

Keep repeating that, Al. Someone, somewhere, still loves ya'.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:58:58 -0500, Frank
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 1:16 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:01 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:03 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
11:00am, 19°F and snowing like crazy. Ice on bridges and hills,
car accidents everywhere. Schools closing and businesses letting
employees go home. Is it too late to get Global Cooling started up
again? I'm freezing my ass off in this Global Warming. o_O

TDD

Been shoveling global warming all winter. Somebody told me it
normally snows in winter but I saw it one summer in Cleveland 50
years ago. Maybe that's when global warming started.

Chaos is the normal climate for the planet. We're just spoiled because
it's been fairly mild over the past several generations. ^_^

TDD

That's what has made me a global warming skeptic when you look at
temperature changes over the eons. There was plenty of global warming
and cooling even before the days of Fred Flintstone.

Did you ever see Fred shovel snow?

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:27:49 -0600, CRNG
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:55:43 -0800, Oren wrote in


Gore and Microsoft founder Bill Gates both made the case that
overpopulation is one factor that is driving global warming."

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/28/al-gore-contraception-key-tool-combating-climate-change

As much as I consider Gore a buffoon, he and Gates are right, IMO,
about global population growth being a major global problem. Take a
look at China and India. They are the major sources of global
population growth and pollution.

If you really believe that, you'd commit suicide.

There is no way that they are going to cut back.

Nor are you, right?

On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, wrote:
Let's go back to the late 1970s, and the forgotten but official term
for what is allegedly happening: CLIMATE CHANGE.


Some IDIOT in the media coined the term "global warming" in the '80s
and they ran with it.

What is actually happening?

IMO, Earth and women both have periods. Earth is going through one
right now. They can last years, or even decades.

I'm in CT. Summers are hot, winters c

Like any woman, when Gaea is PMSing, all hell can break loose. ^_^

TDD

Kurt Ullman wrote in
m:

In article ,
CRNG wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:55:43 -0800, Oren wrote in


Gore and Microsoft founder Bill Gates both made the case that
overpopulation is one factor that is driving global warming."

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/28...-tool-combatin
g-climate-change

As much as I consider Gore a buffoon, he and Gates are right, IMO,
about global population growth being a major global problem. Take a
look at China and India. They are the major sources of global
population growth and pollution.

There is no way that they are going to cut back.

But they also don't need to be so poluting. That is a governmental
decision. If anything, they are in a better position to go greenish
because they don't have the infrastructure sunk costs we do.

With all due respect, I completely disagree. IMHO they are in a far *worse* position "to go
greenish" because neither of them can afford as well as we to make the up-front
investments necessary in controlling pollution. Cheap labor isn't the only reason that it costs
less to manufacture in China than in the US: we could produce cheaper, too, if we didn't
have to clean up after ourselves -- not saying we should, mind you, just saying that's
another component of the difference in cost of production.

China also has the additional disincentive "to go greenish" of having a political system that
is mostly unresponsive to the will of the people. The folks in charge there don't have to
worry about being voted out of office and replaced with leaders who will actually take care
of the environment. They need only prevent violent revolution to make their butts secure.

On 1/28/2014 5:14 PM, wrote:
Let's go back to the late 1970s, and the forgotten but official term
for what is allegedly happening: CLIMATE CHANGE.


In the 1970's, the aluminum foil hat and Chicken Little crowd were
actually howling about, "Global Cooling". o_O

TDD

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:57:12 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being told they
should leave their children at school if they can't safely get to the
school to pick them up. The governor had a news conference about the
state of emergency where he has called out some of the National Guard
and the State Emergency Management Agency has activated all its
resources. The ice and snow was forecast to hit the Southern part of the
state so most of the limited snow clearing equipment was sent South
and will take days to make it back to Northern Alabama. We aren't used
to this nonsense and folks from The South don't know how to drive on ice
and snow so the frigging roads are clogged. Birmingham is a mountainous
area with a lot of hills and vehicles can't get up the hills and are
sliding down them. People are being asked to stay off the roads but
there are those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of pulling out
of the driveway. o_O

TDD

There are a few safe drivers in PRNY, but very few.
I get out on the road, and people fly by me, on
either right or left, but most often the right.
When possible, I do stay home.

They told us to go home at 1PM. I waited a half hour (to let the
parking lot clear) and left. It took me almost two hours to get home
(18mi). People were scared ****less. In some places I could have
walked faster. The roads weren't even slick! I tested the roads
often with my brake and didn't break loose. Some were still off the
road. Idiots. We only had 1/2" at the time. We're probably up to a
whole inch, now.

On 1/28/2014 4:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being told
they should leave their children at school if they can't safely get
to the school to pick them up. The governor had a news conference
about the state of emergency where he has called out some of the
National Guard and the State Emergency Management Agency has
activated all its resources. The ice and snow was forecast to hit
the Southern part of the state so most of the limited snow clearing
equipment was sent South and will take days to make it back to
Northern Alabama. We aren't used to this nonsense and folks from
The South don't know how to drive on ice and snow so the frigging
roads are clogged. Birmingham is a mountainous area with a lot of
hills and vehicles can't get up the hills and are sliding down
them. People are being asked to stay off the roads but there are
those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of pulling
out of the driveway. o_O

TDD

There are a few safe drivers in PRNY, but very few. I get out on the
road, and people fly by me, on either right or left, but most often
the right. When possible, I do stay home.


There are still 1,200 children at school, sheltering in place here in
Birmingham. It's 19°F and the roads are iced over now so there's no idea
of what tomorrow will be like but schools across a number of counties
will be closed and I'm betting most businesses will also be closed. ^_^

TDD

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:47:51 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 4:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being told
they should leave their children at school if they can't safely get
to the school to pick them up. The governor had a news conference
about the state of emergency where he has called out some of the
National Guard and the State Emergency Management Agency has
activated all its resources. The ice and snow was forecast to hit
the Southern part of the state so most of the limited snow clearing
equipment was sent South and will take days to make it back to
Northern Alabama. We aren't used to this nonsense and folks from
The South don't know how to drive on ice and snow so the frigging
roads are clogged. Birmingham is a mountainous area with a lot of
hills and vehicles can't get up the hills and are sliding down
them. People are being asked to stay off the roads but there are
those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of pulling
out of the driveway. o_O

TDD

There are a few safe drivers in PRNY, but very few. I get out on the
road, and people fly by me, on either right or left, but most often
the right. When possible, I do stay home.


There are still 1,200 children at school, sheltering in place here in
Birmingham.

The idiots in Atlanta did exactly the same. Lefties are really dumb.

It's 19°F and the roads are iced over now so there's no idea
of what tomorrow will be like but schools across a number of counties
will be closed and I'm betting most businesses will also be closed. ^_^

Yep. I'm not counting on going to work tomorrow.

The Daring Dufas wrote: "In the 1970's, the aluminum foil hat and Chicken Little crowd were
actually howling about, "Global Cooling". o_O "


I'm more inclined to believe THAT given the temperatures we've been seeing straight to the Gulf of Mexico this month.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message

stuff snipped

China also has the additional disincentive "to go greenish" of having a
political system that
is mostly unresponsive to the will of the people. The folks in charge
there don't have to
worry about being voted out of office and replaced with leaders who will
actually take care
of the environment. They need only prevent violent revolution to make
their butts secure.

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/20...ling-pollution

Major Chinese cities afflicted by smog and dirty water are set to benefit
from a huge air pollution control programme, which will bring trillions of
yuan to already fast developing environment industries.
The Action Plan for Air Pollution Control (2013-2017) was announced by China
's environment minister Zhou Shengxian at the Ecological Civilization Forum
held in Guiyang. The action plan will involve 1.7 trillion yuan (£179
billion) being invested in pollution controls over the next five years.

'Facing huge environmental pressure, especially the smoggy Beijing
atmosphere, the new leadership must show their political determination to
appease the public,' says Ye Zhaohui, an associate professor studying
environmental economics at Zhejiang University.

Obviously, China's undergone substantive social, economic and political
changes of late. The smogged-up Olympics embarrassed them and they're
actually working on the problem.

China recently cracked down on lead-acid battery (LABs) makers as a result
of serious poisoning cases and tests that showed highly elevated blood lead
levels (BLLs) in nearly all of the children tested in the areas where the
plants were located:

http://www.ehjournal.net/content/12/1/61

On November 21, 2008 the Ministry of Environmental Protection (MEP)
formally promulgated "Clean Production Standards for the Lead Battery
Industry" (HJ 447-2008) and implemented these in February 2009. These
standards mandated application of currently available industrial technology
and equipment for the LAB industry. Restrictions were also placed on natural
resource usage and pollution emissions.

In response to recent mass Pb poisonings, in March 2011 the MEP along with
the National Development and Reform Commission jointly issued an
environmental protection special action decree (UNCED [2011] No. 41), with
remediation of the LAB industry as its primary goal [44]. The central
government tasked all local environmental protection bureaus to immediately
conduct a thorough investigation and remediation of all environmental law
violators. All LAB enterprises under investigation would be forced to comply
with inspections.

As a result of this decree, by July 31, 2011 the investigation of all 1,930
known LAB enterprises (manufacturing, assembly, and recycling) resulted in
the complete shutdown of 583 and discontinuation of 405 LAB enterprises. The
success in quickly enforcing this special action decree was still riddled
with uncertainty, as the MEP acknowledged the numerous problems with
regulating smaller-scale unregistered LAB enterprises. Nevertheless, this
"storm" of regulatory enforcement reflects the government's acknowledgement
of the severity of Pb pollution and its primary sources.

Lead battery prices spiked as a result of the crackdown.

--

Bobby G.

On 1/28/2014 7:39 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

In the 1970's, the aluminum foil hat and Chicken Little crowd were
actually howling about, "Global Cooling". o_O

TDD

Aerosol cans, as I remember, were the culprit.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 1/28/2014 7:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

There are still 1,200 children at school, sheltering in place here in
Birmingham. It's 19°F and the roads are iced over now so there's no idea
of what tomorrow will be like but schools across a number of counties
will be closed and I'm betting most businesses will also be closed. ^_^

TDD

I hope someone can truck in some sleeping
pads, blankets, etc. Of course in high
school they have body heat. Something called
sex, they talked about, but I never did
get it figured.
--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 1/28/2014 7:10 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:47:51 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 4:57 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2014 5:11 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Central Alabamastan is all but shut down with parents being
told they should leave their children at school if they can't
safely get to the school to pick them up. The governor had a
news conference about the state of emergency where he has
called out some of the National Guard and the State Emergency
Management Agency has activated all its resources. The ice and
snow was forecast to hit the Southern part of the state so most
of the limited snow clearing equipment was sent South and will
take days to make it back to Northern Alabama. We aren't used
to this nonsense and folks from The South don't know how to
drive on ice and snow so the frigging roads are clogged.
Birmingham is a mountainous area with a lot of hills and
vehicles can't get up the hills and are sliding down them.
People are being asked to stay off the roads but there are
those idiots who don't get it. I live on top of one of the
mountains in the area and there is no way I would think of
pulling out of the driveway. o_O

TDD

There are a few safe drivers in PRNY, but very few. I get out on
the road, and people fly by me, on either right or left, but most
often the right. When possible, I do stay home.


There are still 1,200 children at school, sheltering in place here
in Birmingham.

The idiots in Atlanta did exactly the same. Lefties are really
dumb.

It's 19°F and the roads are iced over now so there's no idea of
what tomorrow will be like but schools across a number of counties
will be closed and I'm betting most businesses will also be closed.
^_^

Yep. I'm not counting on going to work tomorrow.


The problem here in Birmingham is black ice and since I'm on top of a
mountain, I wouldn't pull out of the driveway. It's 19°F and a lot of
roads in the area are impassable and closed. Earlier in the month the
temperature here dropped to around 7°F but people could still drive. I
be cold and Sandy keeps wanting to get in my lap because it's freezing
down there on the floor. o_O

TDD

On 1/28/2014 9:16 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
The idiots in Atlanta did exactly the same. Lefties are really
dumb.


The problem here in Birmingham is black ice and since I'm on top of a
mountain, I wouldn't pull out of the driveway. It's 19°F and a lot of
roads in the area are impassable and closed. Earlier in the month the
temperature here dropped to around 7°F but people could still drive. I
be cold and Sandy keeps wanting to get in my lap because it's freezing
down there on the floor. o_O

TDD

A friend in SC says the same, it's bone numbing
cold, and there are three inches snow, and that
packs into ice. No snow plows in SC. He figures
to be home today and tomorrow. In the fifties,
Thurs, and should restore the roads.

I hope the shelter in place kids are comfortable
and safe.

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The problem is that you guys are experiencing weather you're not used to and are completely unprepared for.

They're predicting warmer temperatures toward the end of the week (Friday or Saturday, maybe) as the cold air mass that's pushed it's way into the southern USA gets displaced by warm air blowing in from the Pacific Ocean.

On 1/28/2014 7:52 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2014 7:39 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

In the 1970's, the aluminum foil hat and Chicken Little crowd were
actually howling about, "Global Cooling". o_O

TDD

Aerosol cans, as I remember, were the culprit.

It was hairspray. I'm sure the Hair Gel lobby paid a lot of bribes and
started a publicity campaign to scare dumbasses about the faux danger
posed by hairspray. ^_^

TDD

On 1/28/2014 10:26 PM, nestork wrote:
The problem is that you guys are experiencing weather you're not used
to and are completely unprepared for.

They're predicting warmer temperatures toward the end of the week
(Friday or Saturday, maybe) as the cold air mass that's pushed it's
way into the southern USA gets displaced by warm air blowing in from
the Pacific Ocean.


I know The Jet Stream has been acting whacky but we have the warm air
mass from The Gulf of Mexico to fight back but when it does, it brings
with it lots of calamity and precipitation. ^_^

TDD

On 1/28/2014 7:56 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2014 7:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

There are still 1,200 children at school, sheltering in place here
in Birmingham. It's 19°F and the roads are iced over now so there's
no idea of what tomorrow will be like but schools across a number
of counties will be closed and I'm betting most businesses will
also be closed. ^_^

TDD

I hope someone can truck in some sleeping pads, blankets, etc. Of
course in high school they have body heat. Something called sex, they
talked about, but I never did get it figured.

Back in the last century when I was in high school, we had wrestling
mats and mats used for the PE classes. So high school students can stay
warm by practicing wrestling moves and participating in Physical
Education. ^_^

TDD

In article ,
Doug Miller wrote:

With all due respect, I completely disagree. IMHO they are in a far *worse*
position "to go
greenish" because neither of them can afford as well as we to make the
up-front
investments necessary in controlling pollution. Cheap labor isn't the only
reason that it costs
less to manufacture in China than in the US: we could produce cheaper, too,
if we didn't
have to clean up after ourselves -- not saying we should, mind you, just
saying that's
another component of the difference in cost of production.

That wasn't my point. My point was that in many areas of these
countries they are putting in their first generation of these
technologies. In the US, we have smelly nasty plants because that was
the new technology when we first put them in. China, et al., have the
advantage of being able, in many areas, to start off with greener
technologies, many of which are much easier and less costly to put in
place as a first installation instead of a retrofit.
My major problem with Kyoto and most of the other similar treaties is
that there was no mechanism for when developing countries were developed
enough to start pulling their load.
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