At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

On 12/17/2013 7:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD
Ouch, that sounds awful. I hope no one seriously
hurt. But, it sounds like they were.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 12/17/2013 7:03 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/17/2013 7:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD
Ouch, that sounds awful. I hope no one seriously
hurt. But, it sounds like they were.


Listening to the radio this morning it was just reported that someone
may be trapped in the debris. I'm sure there will be pictures and I
should check the local TV news to see what they have on it. I called a
morning radio talk show and told them about how the house shook at
2:30am leading me to believe it was a sonic boom from a jet and it was a
BOOM! alright. O_o

TDD

as a child a nearby home exploded, i was at school aways away it sounded like a sonic boom. when i got home from schoold debris were in our yard. the homes location is still a vacant lot. this was amnor explosion.

in crafton pa gas workers managed to cause a major explosion with a bunch of people killed, it was a big event. I liked to watch the crews working, luckily i wasnt there that day...

The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

On 12/17/2013 8:41 AM, Pete C. wrote:
....

... Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, ...

Nonsense. It does require a certain level of care, however, but so does
electricity and any other energy source. Consider the number of
residences and miles of pipeline that _didn't_ "go boom".

All of the incidents you describe were the result of an error of
commission or omission -- lack of maintenance is certainly a problem
that needs addressing on older lines, that is true.

--

On 12/17/2013 6:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

8 people in the hospital one dead. I'm sure I'll find pictures or video
soon, perhaps I should turn on the TV? o_O

TDD

On 12/17/2013 9:41 AM, Pete C. wrote:

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Safe is, as safe does. I'd not cancel all gas
service because a few people are unsafe. Any
more than I'd outlaw guns because a few people
rob banks.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 12/17/2013 10:01 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

8 people in the hospital one dead. I'm sure I'll find pictures or video
soon, perhaps I should turn on the TV? o_O

TDD

Who needs more bad news? I don't.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:54:55 AM UTC-6, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned

out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It

destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families

and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults

to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.

The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking

other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was

messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding

up with a gas leak. o_O






We now know the freeloader hypocrite lives in a southern redneck, racist ******** - that explains a lot.

Maybe you can get a job doing cleanup instead of sucking off the tit of
tax payers.




BIRMINGHAM, Ala., Dec. 17 (UPI) -- Rescue crews searched Tuesday for two people reported missing after a gas line explosion at an apartment complex in Birmingham, Ala., officials said.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:41:03 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Do some research before you blurt out statements like "Gas simply
isn't safe for residential use, and is even dangerous in industrial
settings." Give us some facts, not opinions. Nothing is 100% safe.

Gordon Shumway wrote in
:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:41:03 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:
Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season,

Bull****.

and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Do some research before you blurt out statements like "Gas simply
isn't safe for residential use, and is even dangerous in industrial
settings." Give us some facts, not opinions. Nothing is 100% safe.

Just ignore him. "Pete C" is a well-known Usenet kook who happens to have a "thing" about
the supposed grave hazards of natural gas. He's been spouting the same garbage for
years. Hardly anyone takes him seriously.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:01:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

8 people in the hospital one dead. I'm sure I'll find pictures or video
soon, perhaps I should turn on the TV? o_O

TDD

35 photos:

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/12/explosion_at_birmingham_apartm.html#incart_river

I read in a different report the second floor slab landed on a couple
on the first floor, rescued...

On 12/17/2013 09:41 AM, Pete C. wrote:
Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Millions more people die from strokes, cancer, liver disease, dementia,
heart disease and diabetes yet that doesn't stop the McJunkFood chain
from selling slabs of fat, salt and sugar disguised as food.

Got any of those diseases yet? Have some more fast food, you will!

On 12/17/2013 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 8:41 AM, Pete C. wrote: ...

... Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, ...

Nonsense. It does require a certain level of care, however, but so
does electricity and any other energy source. Consider the number of
residences and miles of pipeline that _didn't_ "go boom".

All of the incidents you describe were the result of an error of
commission or omission -- lack of maintenance is certainly a problem
that needs addressing on older lines, that is true.


5 children and 3 adults have been injured and are hospitalized. 1 woman
was found dead in the rubble. I feel for the poor folks especially the
children. I don't like it when children are hurt. o_O

TDD

On 12/17/2013 6:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

Just curious, why would you think that when you really don't have a clue
as to what happened?

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ...
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Thanks for posting that. I didn't see this on any of the morning news shows today. Wake up call for everyone to check their utilities & appliances.

One dry winter days I used to keep a pot of water simmering on low on the gas stove. One time I smelled gas and saw that the flame had gone out. First thing I did was turn the knob off. Not that bright -- to turn the flow off from the 'low' setting, it first increases the gas flow, then fires an arc to light the gas. Fortunately there was not enough gas to light. Next time I'll remember to open the doors and air out first.

On 12/17/2013 10:01 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/17/2013 6:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

8 people in the hospital one dead. I'm sure I'll find pictures or video
soon, perhaps I should turn on the TV? o_O

TDD

There was a couple in Indianapolis who rigged their n.g. supply to blow
up their house for insurance money prosecuted last year, I believe.
They turned on gas and rigged a timer to cause explosion. I believe it
failed on the first try, so they went back to make adjustments. When
the house blew up, it destroyed several neighboring homes and killed two
neighbors. One clue to their guilt was that they took their cat with
them when they left, I think.

In article ,
Norminn wrote:

O
neighbors. One clue to their guilt was that they took their cat with
them when they left, I think.

Close they boarded it while they overnighted at a casino. Twice. First
of all who boards a cat overnight and secondly it was the only two times
in the years-long history of the cat that it was boareded for any
reason. Rocket scientists they weren't.
--
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.²
‹ Aaron Levenstein

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:00:53 -0600, IGot2P wrote:

On 12/17/2013 6:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

Just curious, why would you think that when you really don't have a clue
as to what happened?



Unless I'm wrong, this link implies there was another explosion a
distance away, a different time. And. Reports of smelling gas by
neighbors (not the first time).

If reports were made to the unities about gas smells and nothing was
done to correct it -- I smell money.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/12/explosion_at_birmingham_apartm.html#incart_river

Per Oren:
If reports were made to the unities about gas smells and nothing was
done to correct it -- I smell money.

Something like that happened with PECo (was "Philadelphia Electric
Company) some years back while I was working for them.

Google "Norristown Gas Explosion".

After something like an hour, somebody finally called the fire
department which did respond - but just in time to witness the
explosion.

IIRC, two people died and PECo wound up forking over 13 mil in damages.

Having been in meetings with the VP in charge, my opinion was that the
employees in that sector were so demoralized that nobody was available
to make a timely inspection of the reported area. She was, as they say
in Philly, "A real piece of work".
--
Pete Cresswell

On 12/17/2013 12:00 PM, IGot2P wrote:
On 12/17/2013 6:54 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

Just curious, why would you think that when you really don't have a clue
as to what happened?


I've seen fires caused by folks fooling around with gas in cold weather.
I'm guessing that someone could have been screwing around with a space
heater. Temps have been very low around here for the past week. The was
some talk about them smelling gas during the Summer and there was no
explosion last summer. Me and my late friend GB repaired a lot of gas
lines for folks who tried DIY with their gas appliances. If a tiny leak
develops in a space heater, the place can fill with gas and when the gas
comes in contact with pilot light on the water heater, you get a big
boom. I certainly don't find anything amusing about the accident because
there were children harmed and that makes me mad. Alabama Gas is very
good about responding to reports of leaks no matter what neighborhood it
is. I've call the fire department before when I caught a strong odor of
a gas leak when I was driving through a neighborhood and the fire
department and gas company responded quickly. It wasn't a small leak if
I could smell it while driving. If a leak had been reported to Alabama
Gas, I know darn well the guys would have been right out there tracking
it down. o_O

TDD

On 12/17/2013 12:12 PM, Guv Bob wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in
message ...
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it
turned out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile
from me. It destroyed a two story brick apartment building
containing two families and several children were sent to Childrens
Hospital and several adults to another hospital. The report is that
two adults are unaccounted for. The explosion leveled the building
sending bricks into the air striking other buildings and breaking a
lot of windows. I think somebody was messing with a gas line,
trying to get a gas heater working then winding up with a gas leak.
o_O

TDD

Thanks for posting that. I didn't see this on any of the morning
news shows today. Wake up call for everyone to check their utilities
& appliances.

One dry winter days I used to keep a pot of water simmering on low on
the gas stove. One time I smelled gas and saw that the flame had
gone out. First thing I did was turn the knob off. Not that bright
-- to turn the flow off from the 'low' setting, it first increases
the gas flow, then fires an arc to light the gas. Fortunately there
was not enough gas to light. Next time I'll remember to open the
doors and air out first.


I have a big pot, a very big pot of water on the stove to provide
humidity on very cold dry days and set a very low flame under it but if
my roommate opens the window behind the stove, a brisk breeze will blow
out the pilots and the burner. Fortunately, the house is old and not
hermetically sealed like a lot of new homes so there is a lot of air
infiltration to dilute any gas. ^_^

TDD

On 12/17/2013 2:56 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

I've seen fires caused by folks fooling around with gas in cold weather.
I'm guessing that someone could have been screwing around with a space
heater. Temps have been very low around here for the past week. The was
some talk about them smelling gas during the Summer and there was no
explosion last summer. Me and my late friend GB repaired a lot of gas
lines for folks who tried DIY with their gas appliances. If a tiny leak
develops in a space heater, the place can fill with gas and when the gas
comes in contact with pilot light on the water heater, you get a big
boom. I certainly don't find anything amusing about the accident because
there were children harmed and that makes me mad. Alabama Gas is very
good about responding to reports of leaks no matter what neighborhood it
is. I've call the fire department before when I caught a strong odor of
a gas leak when I was driving through a neighborhood and the fire
department and gas company responded quickly. It wasn't a small leak if
I could smell it while driving. If a leak had been reported to Alabama
Gas, I know darn well the guys would have been right out there tracking
it down. o_O

TDD

That's neighborly of you, to call in gas leaks.

Might be KABOOB!!!! there might be tits everywhere.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:54:55 AM UTC-6, The Daring Dufas wrote:
At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned

out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It

destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families

and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults

to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.

The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking

other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was

messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding

up with a gas leak. o_O



TDD

Thank goodness unionized firemen,police and EMS showed up .. huh ?

We know no republicans would risk their life doing that work, but they
certainly expect those workers to.

On 12/17/2013 11:18 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/17/2013 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
On 12/17/2013 8:41 AM, Pete C. wrote: ...

... Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, ...

Nonsense. It does require a certain level of care, however, but so
does electricity and any other energy source. Consider the number of
residences and miles of pipeline that _didn't_ "go boom".

All of the incidents you describe were the result of an error of
commission or omission -- lack of maintenance is certainly a problem
that needs addressing on older lines, that is true.


5 children and 3 adults have been injured and are hospitalized. 1 woman
was found dead in the rubble. I feel for the poor folks especially the
children. I don't like it when children are hurt. o_O

Bad things sometimes happen to good (or at least innocent in the present
circumstances) people....then again a 13 yo died (or is braindead altho
still on ventilator last I heard) after a "routine" tonsillectomy in LA
area just the other day.

While unfortunate, do we now not do any more tonsillectomies?

--

In article ,
Pete C. wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Far more people have been killed in fires caused by electrical wiring and
device defects than by gas explosions or gas asphyxiation. Perhaps
electricity simply isn't safe for residential use either.



--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry W. - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:26:20 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

That's neighborly of you, to call in gas leaks.

Heck. I called in a water meter leak at my house. The meter maid was
here to fix it two hours. (large woman) Turned out to be the
neighbor's meter leaking. She turned some tools, fixed it, and
everybody was happy, happy, happy.

It sounded like my water meter box when I called.

"Larry W" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Pete C. wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Far more people have been killed in fires caused by electrical wiring and
device defects than by gas explosions or gas asphyxiation. Perhaps
electricity simply isn't safe for residential use either.

This reminds me of the gas company vs electric company battles in the late 19th century when they were both fighting for control of the lighting market.

Gordon Shumway wrote:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:41:03 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Do some research before you blurt out statements like "Gas simply
isn't safe for residential use, and is even dangerous in industrial
settings." Give us some facts, not opinions. Nothing is 100% safe.

They used to market nat gas as "clean, safe, dependable", now it's just
"clean and dependable", do you think they dropped "safe" for no reason?

Doug Miller wrote:

Gordon Shumway wrote in
:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:41:03 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:
Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season,

Bull****.

Just search the reports. I posted the actual stats from NFPA or some
such some time ago and it was something like 4,000+ residential gas
explosions per year.

Larry W wrote:

In article ,
Pete C. wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

At 2:30am the house shook like it would from a sonic boom and it turned
out to be a gas explosion in a neighborhood within a mile from me. It
destroyed a two story brick apartment building containing two families
and several children were sent to Childrens Hospital and several adults
to another hospital. The report is that two adults are unaccounted for.
The explosion leveled the building sending bricks into the air striking
other buildings and breaking a lot of windows. I think somebody was
messing with a gas line, trying to get a gas heater working then winding
up with a gas leak. o_O

TDD

Hardly a day goes by without a gas explosion somewhere in the US during
heating season, and even outside heating season they seem to be at least
monthly. Gas simply isn't safe for residential use, and is even
dangerous in industrial settings - recall the gas pipeline explosion in
CA, the gas explosion at the power plant under construction in CT, a gas
pipeline explosion under and apt building in NJ I think it was, etc.

Far more people have been killed in fires caused by electrical wiring and
device defects than by gas explosions or gas asphyxiation. Perhaps
electricity simply isn't safe for residential use either.

Have you looked at the actual stats? I believe NFPA has some good ones
showing 4,000+ residential gas explosions per year.

On 12-17-2013, 16:04, dpb wrote:
While unfortunate, do we now not do any more tonsillectomies?

We do far fewer than we used to. Not because they are dangerous,
but because they are usually unnecessary.

--
Wes Groleau

Answer not a fool according to his folly,
lest thou also be like unto him.
Answer a fool according to his folly,
lest he be wise according to his own conceit.
€” Solomon
Are you saying there's no good way to answer a fool?
€” Groleau

On 12/17/2013 10:23 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Just search the reports. I posted the actual stats from NFPA or some
such some time ago and it was something like 4,000+ residential gas
explosions per year.


I don't care. I am not giving up NG to get fleeced by the power
company.

On 12/17/2013 9:54 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

Far more people have been killed in fires caused by electrical wiring and
device defects than by gas explosions or gas asphyxiation. Perhaps
electricity simply isn't safe for residential use either.

This reminds me of the gas company vs electric
company battles in the late 19th century when they
? were both fighting for control of the lighting market.


Do you also remember all the safety concerns about
motor cars, and how they needed someone on foot with
a red flag, ahead. To not scare the horses.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 12/17/2013 11:23 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Just search the reports. I posted the actual stats from NFPA or some
such some time ago and it was something like 4,000+ residential gas
explosions per year.


In my half century of life, I can only remember one
hearing about a residential gas explosion. And that
was a suicide. If memory serves.

With 4,000 a year, you'd think a couple would be
within the range of my news and information radio.

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On 12/17/2013 11:24 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Have you looked at the actual stats? I believe NFPA has some good ones
showing 4,000+ residential gas explosions per year.


I'd sure like to see a URL. I did a search, including NFPA
web site, and can't find that stat.

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Christopher A. Young
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On 12/17/2013 11:24 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Have you looked at the actual stats? I believe NFPA has some good ones
showing 4,000+ residential gas explosions per year.


I'd sure like to see a URL. I did a search, including NFPA
web site, and can't find that stat.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
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On 12/17/2013 11:24 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Have you looked at the actual stats? I believe NFPA has some good ones
showing 4,000+ residential gas explosions per year.


I'd sure like to see a URL. I did a search, including NFPA
web site, and can't find that stat.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Daring Dufas : Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote:

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We now know the freeloader hypocrite lives in a southern redneck, racist ******** - that explains a lot.

75.108.241.151 Conroe, Texas, US

What was that about southern ********s?


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