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chainsaw reccomendation or advice ?
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50
conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb |
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robb wrote: I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Hi, If I were you I'd buy Stihl or Echo. I have both Echo at home and Stihl out at my cabin. They won't let you down and it will last long time. |
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On 2011-09-23, robb wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? Do you think all opinions you read here are going to be unanimous!? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . Popular Mechanics has several comparisons and reviews. Here's one for what you seem to be looking for: http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...30-c-be-review Note the comments about the carbide chain. I have no experience using chainsaws, whatsoever, but being a combustion engine freak, I always read other people's opinions/reviews with interest. Seems Stihl and Husqvarna are the two biggies and both are considered top quality by pros and DIY'ers alike. It will probably come down to what which one you like the feel of. You should try both out beforehand by renting one and actually using it. Tool rental places often have more than one brand and/or model of chainsaw, it being an extremely popular rental item. As a long-ago tool rental mechanic, I can guarantee it's the one place you can go to discover a tool's shortcomings. I can also tell you the biggest maintenance issue with chain saws is constantly sharpening the cutting teeth. Make sure whichever brand you get, the chain is easily accessable and removeable. Also inquire about chain sharpening tools, cuz you'll damn sure be using them. That's why that carbide chain sounded like a good thing. OTOH, while carbide last for a long time, it's even more difficult to sharpen. Good luck. nb |
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On 9/23/2011 10:15 AM, robb wrote:
I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . .... I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Go ahead, buy a cheap piece-of-**** Chinasaw...and when it craps out after half a day's use, then go to a Stihl dealer and buy a real chainsaw. Seriously, I used to buy chinasaws from lowes depot. In my opinion, chinasaws are pure junk. They don't start easily, they don't idle right, they don't run right at high speed, they vibrate like hell and their cheap chinasaw chains constantly stretch and come off. Chinasaws are more trouble than they're worth! Do yourself a favor - go buy a Stihl. |
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On Sep 23, 10:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb I can tell you this, do NOT buy a Homelight. They are a piece of junk. I made about 25 cuts with one and it crapped out. Took it back to HD and got a Poulan Wood Shark. I haven't had any problems with it, but a lot of people in here frown on Poulan. |
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On Sep 23, 3:15*pm, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Stihl or Husqvana are the best makes IME. Oregon comes next. Pay peanuts get s**t. Leave Homelite and McCulloch well alone. |
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On Sep 23, 10:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Son and I had problems with both our Poulan Wild Things. Would not buy another Poulan or any other chain saw advertised for occassional use. Only good thing with HD is that they refunded son's purchase after about 3 months. |
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On Sep 23, 9:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Jonsered, Husky, Stihl, Echo are the better brands. 50 years ago it was Homelite...very good but not light weight. |
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robb wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Echo makes good saws, but they are a little underpowered for the number of cubic inches -- that just means they are detuned a little, which probably adds to their longevity. As far as I know, all Echo saws are "professional" saws, but perhaps low-end pro. Stihl and Husqvarna sell multiple grades of saws, and the lowest grade of Husky (models 235 and 240) are just rebranded Poulans painted orange, although they appear to have better air filters. Northern Tool has rebuilt Husky 435's (that model is made in Sweden) on sale right now for considerably less than $200. That's probably the best deal around. Next would be an Echo 440 or 500 from Home Depot. -Bob |
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The quality probably suffered. I bought a Homelite about 15
years ago, for occasional use. Model PS-33. I've been very pleased with it. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ron" wrote in message ... I can tell you this, do NOT buy a Homelight. They are a piece of junk. I made about 25 cuts with one and it crapped out. Took it back to HD and got a Poulan Wood Shark. I haven't had any problems with it, but a lot of people in here frown on Poulan. |
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On Sep 23, 7:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb By the description of what you want to do with one, you need a quality saw. Stay away from all the el cheapo's. Your targt price for a saw that will probably stand up to the work is $300 or above. The cheap saws are all plastic and flimsy plastic at that. My neighbor bought at Wild Thing and asked me to show him how to use a chainsaw. Right out of the box it would not run. I have been using saws for over 30 years and nothing I could do would make it run more than a few seconds after it ran out the 'choke' charge. The chain brake handle broke with out any rough handling. Snapped off one side right at the pivot bolt. The other el cheapos are about the same quality. You reallyshould buy from a regular dealer because with that use you _will_ going back for service. Bottom line "the joy of cheap price is paid for by the sorrow of poor quality" Harry K |
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On Sep 23, 9:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb After a couple of years, the Husqvana I had would not start until I made up a fresh can of gas for it every time. It would not start at all with gas that I had mixed up just the day before. I heard that that was common with that brand so I got rid of it. Now, for what little I've been doing lately, I use an axe or a saw. Great exercise for this old feller. |
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"Country" wrote in message ... On Sep 23, 9:15 am, "robb" wrote: I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb After a couple of years, the Husqvana I had would not start until I made up a fresh can of gas for it every time. It would not start at all with gas that I had mixed up just the day before. I heard that that was common with that brand so I got rid of it. Now, for what little I've been doing lately, I use an axe or a saw. Great exercise for this old feller. reply: A 26 ton splitter works fine, too. After having my sternum split into two pieces by some kind of special bone splitter the doctor uses, it hasn't been up to splitting any wood. I mean I can still do it manually, but why? I can still do a lot of things, a lot of them pretty hard, such as metalworking. But for splitting a few tons of wood, I'll take the easy way out. You do whatever winds your clock. Steve |
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Stay the hell out of the big box stores and buy from someone who stocks parts and makes repairs, your saw will be properly set up and the money tends to stay in town.
You don't need anything bigger than a 16" bar, the high revving engines now 13,000 rpm cut very well and a bigger saw is just bigger aches and pains at the end of the day. The midrange of saws would be the ms290 aka farm boss by Stihl but it's a lot heavier than what you need. |
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"beecrofter" wrote in message news:14332735.141.1316878314456.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37... Stay the hell out of the big box stores and buy from someone who stocks parts and makes repairs, your saw will be properly set up and the money tends to stay in town. You don't need anything bigger than a 16" bar, the high revving engines now 13,000 rpm cut very well and a bigger saw is just bigger aches and pains at the end of the day. The midrange of saws would be the ms290 aka farm boss by Stihl but it's a lot heavier than what you need. I bought a 16" bar Husky, and if I had it to do again, I would go no smaller than 18", and probably would get a 20. If I had it to do again, I would get a Stihl, but am happy with my Husky now I learned how to start it. Pull it and give it no gas until it has fired and is running. Probably in the directions, but I seem to have misplaced them ........ Like any tool, there's always some situation every once in a while when you need that little extra. Steve |
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On 9/24/2011 1:15 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message news:14332735.141.1316878314456.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37... Stay the hell out of the big box stores and buy from someone who stocks parts and makes repairs, your saw will be properly set up and the money tends to stay in town. You don't need anything bigger than a 16" bar, the high revving engines now 13,000 rpm cut very well and a bigger saw is just bigger aches and pains at the end of the day. The midrange of saws would be the ms290 aka farm boss by Stihl but it's a lot heavier than what you need. I bought a 16" bar Husky, and if I had it to do again, I would go no smaller than 18", and probably would get a 20. If I had it to do again, I would get a Stihl, but am happy with my Husky now I learned how to start it. Pull it and give it no gas until it has fired and is running. Probably in the directions, but I seem to have misplaced them ........ Like any tool, there's always some situation every once in a while when you need that little extra. Steve I know this defies all odds but I fired up the crapsman/Poulan today for the first time since spring. Third pull it fired up like usual and ran fine. The only thing wrong with it is the chain doesn't stay tight. That's my only complaint in about 10 years. It was a returned unit that was repaired, on clearance, for $50. It's probably only cut about a cord of wood a year. A year or two ago I replaced the clutch because the teeth were worn from me running it with the chain either too tight and/or too loose. Now they have a different way of adjusting the chain tension and I'm tempted to get a new one but the posts I read here tell me I'd be crazy to expect to get a 2nd one that actually works. Did I really get the one in a million that actually works? |
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"Steve B" wrote:
I bought a 16" bar Husky, and if I had it to do again, I would go no smaller than 18", and probably would get a 20. And I would go exactly the opposite way. I have a 50cc, 20" McCulloch chainsaw. I purposely wanted 20" to deal with an older willow tree that had a large trunk, and with the longer bar you need a larger engine. Once I dealt with that tree, everything else (managing a 2 acre wooded lot) would be served with a 16" saw that would be far lighter and easier to handle.. |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:58:23 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote: "Steve B" wrote: I bought a 16" bar Husky, and if I had it to do again, I would go no smaller than 18", and probably would get a 20. And I would go exactly the opposite way. I have a 50cc, 20" McCulloch chainsaw. I purposely wanted 20" to deal with an older willow tree that had a large trunk, and with the longer bar you need a larger engine. Once I dealt with that tree, everything else (managing a 2 acre wooded lot) would be served with a 16" saw that would be far lighter and easier to handle.. Personally I like a small saw with a long bar - My little Remington came with a short bar - I replaced it with a longer one - it makes it a lot more flexible (for pruning etc) and added VERY little weight.And the little monster can handle the long chain in softer woods |
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On Sep 24, 12:07*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Country" wrote in message ... On Sep 23, 9:15 am, "robb" wrote: I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb After a couple of years, the Husqvana I had would not start until I made up a fresh can of gas for it every time. It would not start at all with gas that I had mixed up just the day before. I heard that that was common with that brand so I got rid of it. Now, for what little I've been doing lately, I use an axe or a saw. Great exercise for this old feller. reply: A 26 ton splitter works fine, too. *After having my sternum split into two pieces by some kind of special bone splitter the doctor uses, it hasn't been up to splitting any wood. *I mean I can still do it manually, but why? *I can still do a lot of things, a lot of them pretty hard, such as metalworking. *But for splitting a few tons of wood, I'll take the easy way out. You do whatever winds your clock. Steve Well, if I was cutting tons of wood I would use a different tool. The wood I burn to heat the house these days comes in pellets in 45 pound bags. That winds my clock. The big willow tree in my yard does cause me some extra work after a wind storm or ice storm tho. -C- |
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On 09/24/2011 03:37 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
On 9/24/2011 1:15 PM, Steve B wrote: wrote in message news:14332735.141.1316878314456.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37... Stay the hell out of the big box stores and buy from someone who stocks parts and makes repairs, your saw will be properly set up and the money tends to stay in town. You don't need anything bigger than a 16" bar, the high revving engines now 13,000 rpm cut very well and a bigger saw is just bigger aches and pains at the end of the day. The midrange of saws would be the ms290 aka farm boss by Stihl but it's a lot heavier than what you need. I bought a 16" bar Husky, and if I had it to do again, I would go no smaller than 18", and probably would get a 20. If I had it to do again, I would get a Stihl, but am happy with my Husky now I learned how to start it. Pull it and give it no gas until it has fired and is running. Probably in the directions, but I seem to have misplaced them ........ Like any tool, there's always some situation every once in a while when you need that little extra. Steve I know this defies all odds but I fired up the crapsman/Poulan today for the first time since spring. Third pull it fired up like usual and ran fine. The only thing wrong with it is the chain doesn't stay tight. That's my only complaint in about 10 years. It was a returned unit that was repaired, on clearance, for $50. It's probably only cut about a cord of wood a year. A year or two ago I replaced the clutch because the teeth were worn from me running it with the chain either too tight and/or too loose. Now they have a different way of adjusting the chain tension and I'm tempted to get a new one but the posts I read here tell me I'd be crazy to expect to get a 2nd one that actually works. Did I really get the one in a million that actually works? FWIW, mine starts and runs fine, but it's sloppy about oil -- it seems every time I pick it up, it has left a puddle. |
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Craftsman would be my choice.mainly because of previous experience,
however I imagine they are all from the same co now. On 9/23/2011 10:15 AM, robb wrote: I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs and occasional downed trees from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb |
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On Sep 24, 8:39*pm, jimmy wrote:
Craftsman would be my choice.mainly because of previous experience, however I imagine they are all from the same co now. On 9/23/2011 10:15 AM, robb wrote: Craftsman is (or used to be) made by Poulan and may be good if used for short/medium duration once a week. |
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I picked up a recon Poulin for $99 and it starts and runs fine.
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"Tony Miklos" wrote Now they have a different way of adjusting the chain tension and I'm tempted to get a new one but the posts I read here tell me I'd be crazy to expect to get a 2nd one that actually works. Did I really get the one in a million that actually works? Most everything WORKS, at least for some period of time. It's just when you really get it out and use it quite a bit that you find out how good it is. To cut one cord of wood a year is light use. I'm surprised your carb rubber and gaskets last from year to year. Poulans work, and there are a few that last a long time. Just not many. Steve |
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On 2011-09-25, Steve B wrote:
To cut one cord of wood a year is light use. I'm surprised..... I'm surprised most of the respondents to this post are smart enough to even breath! nb |
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Thanks for that... oh mighty judgmental one.
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notbob wrote:
On 2011-09-25, Steve B wrote: To cut one cord of wood a year is light use. I'm surprised..... I'm surprised most of the respondents to this post are smart enough to even breath! nb Breathe. ;-) -Bob |
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On Sep 23, 10:15*am, "robb" wrote:
I have done the google searches. Now the internet is filled with 50/50 conflicting advice and reviews. Does anyone her have experience with the big retailer brand gas powered chainsaws ? I am looking for probably 18"- 20" *gas powered chainsaw to clear and thin out *some under brush, saplings, scrub oaks, limbs *and occasional downed trees *from my parents wooded property ( there is about 2 acres of overgrown *wooded area they want cleaned up ) . So, i was looking at the big box DIY stores and i see *Homelight, Poulan, ECHO, Stihl, Blue Max, Ryobi, *Poulan Pro, Husqvarna with prices from 149 - 499. I would like to stick *to lower end prices. Is there a best of the cheap ? thanks for helpful replies, robb Whichever brand you decide on get a professional model, Quality is long remembered ...price is soon forgot. |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:28:35 -0600, Robert Neville
wrote: wrote: You can swap out that Paul Bunyon thing you bought on a whim for a shorter one for $30 and have a choice. My point was that chainsaws that come with longer bars stock typically have heavier engines. You can certainly swap out a shorter bar for a longer one if all you are cutting is scrub and branches, but if you need the longer bar for cutting trunk, you probably need the heavier engine. Trimming cherry trees requires a longer reach more than a thicker cut - which is why I put on the long bar - but the little monster just grunts and goes when I need to cut. |
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