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Chainsaw advice
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Test Tickle wrote: Hey, I am looking for a new chainsaw, as I'd like to start harvesting more wood to feed the habit. I'd love to hear any advice you folks might have. I know I want a gas powered saw, and I suppose it's better to buy a longer bar rather than a shorter one -- my old 16 inch was a little lacking sometimes. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. tt One of the "standard" recommendations is the Husquvarna Rancher 455. I just bought mine, so I can't endorse that recommendation yet. But they are sold at regular chain-saw outlets (where I got mine), plus Lowes and Sears (warranty work is handled differently for Lowes and Sears) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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My favorite arborist uses Husky saws. I went to the local dealer, and
he said that you have 2 choices, a Husky, or a Sthil. Most of the loggers I see use the Sthil, most of the arborists, and landscapers use Husky. I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy Ralph E Lindberg wrote: In article , Test Tickle wrote: Hey, I am looking for a new chainsaw, as I'd like to start harvesting more wood to feed the habit. I'd love to hear any advice you folks might have. I know I want a gas powered saw, and I suppose it's better to buy a longer bar rather than a shorter one -- my old 16 inch was a little lacking sometimes. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. tt One of the "standard" recommendations is the Husquvarna Rancher 455. I just bought mine, so I can't endorse that recommendation yet. But they are sold at regular chain-saw outlets (where I got mine), plus Lowes and Sears (warranty work is handled differently for Lowes and Sears) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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I need to add something. Both Husky and Stihl make multiple levels of
saws. There may be 3 -- consumer, 'rancher' and pro. My first saw was a small, consumer grade Stihl and it was not much to write home about. If was bulky about starting, etc. My current saw is a Shindiawa which is super and starts on the first pull. You've probably never heard of them because they don't make a consumer grade at all. Also remember that you can cut a 30" log with a 20" bar -- you just have to walk around it. Bill robo hippy wrote: My favorite arborist uses Husky saws. I went to the local dealer, and he said that you have 2 choices, a Husky, or a Sthil. Most of the loggers I see use the Sthil, most of the arborists, and landscapers use Husky. I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy Ralph E Lindberg wrote: In article , Test Tickle wrote: Hey, I am looking for a new chainsaw, as I'd like to start harvesting more wood to feed the habit. I'd love to hear any advice you folks might have. I know I want a gas powered saw, and I suppose it's better to buy a longer bar rather than a shorter one -- my old 16 inch was a little lacking sometimes. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. tt One of the "standard" recommendations is the Husquvarna Rancher 455. I just bought mine, so I can't endorse that recommendation yet. But they are sold at regular chain-saw outlets (where I got mine), plus Lowes and Sears (warranty work is handled differently for Lowes and Sears) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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robo hippy wrote: I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy I'm curious to know how you guys use these huge chainsaws. Where do you go to cut wood with these? Do you have wood delivered to cut? What kind of wood are you cutting? I just finished removing some Osage from my hedges, and an Oak tree, and trimmed an Ash tree, a Chinese Elm, a Pine tree and a Black walnut tree. I harvested the Osage and some of the Chinese elm. I'm not sure if I'm going to save any of the Oak or Ash, other than as firewood. I split some of the Osage and stored it in the barn with some other wood I have. The 2 to 4 foot lengths of Osage logs I put in the barn were all that 2 men could handle easily. I did it all with a 12" chainsaw. The small chainsaw is light enough that it is easy to handle with one hand. Every time I gas and oil the saw, I touch the chain up with the file (3 strokes per tooth on the small saw, takes no time) and make sure it is properly tensioned. I did have the advantage of the Versa-lift when I trimmed these trees. I have to give the chainsaw and the Versa-lift back on Friday. I'm retiring. So, I'll be in the market for a chainsaw, too. Here's a link to some pics. http://murrayranch.com/TreeTrimming.htm Don |
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Oh my friend,
It is not the kind of trees that you are cutting, it is the size of those trees. Anyone cutting big trees wants the longest bar that he can get. Understand that With a long bar, I can cut a 2 inch diam. log, or branch, as well as cut down, or cut up, a tree that is more than twice the diam. as my bar is long. I have cut down pine trees where the 22 inch bar on my saw did not break the bark on the tip side, and I have cut down pine trees that were 24 inch diam. with a 14 inch bar. And believe me that given a choice, I would much rather have a long bar on my saw than I would working my tail off trying to cut down, or cut up, a tree with a short bar. There are reasons why they sell 60 inch bars, and there are trees to match, and there are trees that are too big for even those monsters. There is another reason for a long bar, it is because with the longer chain it does not have to be sharpened as often. That is one of the reasons that the loggers in my area use a loop bar. that long chain means that they can cut for a long time before the need to put on a sharp chain. And there is less chance of a kick back while cutting at strange angles. I learned to keep sharp chains on hand to swap out during the day while cutting, and sharpen the chains at night for use the next day. I also learned that you can only hand sharpen the chain a couple of times before it has to be resharpened, and reformed, with a jig to put all the teeth back to the same size. Else it starts to cut sideways and wears out your bar. And a dull chain is Dangerous, and becomes a man killer. If you haven't had to do that yet, then you haven't cut any wood yet. I am sure that your chain will last for years yet, While some wear out their chains so fast that they buy their chain in long rolls and make up their chains as needed. I am by no means a pro. But I have not only heated my home with wood for 30 years, but also cut up my trees into lumber with a chain saw attachment. Yes I too have and use a short bar electric saw, but even it has an 16 inch bar on it. Zap Don Murray wrote: robo hippy wrote: I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy I'm curious to know how you guys use these huge chainsaws. Where do you go to cut wood with these? Do you have wood delivered to cut? What kind of wood are you cutting? I just finished removing some Osage from my hedges, and an Oak tree, and trimmed an Ash tree, a Chinese Elm, a Pine tree and a Black walnut tree. I harvested the Osage and some of the Chinese elm. I'm not sure if I'm going to save any of the Oak or Ash, other than as firewood. I split some of the Osage and stored it in the barn with some other wood I have. The 2 to 4 foot lengths of Osage logs I put in the barn were all that 2 men could handle easily. I did it all with a 12" chainsaw. The small chainsaw is light enough that it is easy to handle with one hand. Every time I gas and oil the saw, I touch the chain up with the file (3 strokes per tooth on the small saw, takes no time) and make sure it is properly tensioned. I did have the advantage of the Versa-lift when I trimmed these trees. I have to give the chainsaw and the Versa-lift back on Friday. I'm retiring. So, I'll be in the market for a chainsaw, too. Here's a link to some pics. http://murrayranch.com/TreeTrimming.htm Don |
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Don Murray wrote: robo hippy wrote: I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy I'm curious to know how you guys use these huge chainsaws. Where do you go to cut wood with these? Do you have wood delivered to cut? What kind of wood are you cutting? ... My last saw was an 18, often way to short, which is way the Husky is a 20 You also need to consider where people live. Robo and I live in "tall tree" country. I cut down 4ft (diameter) tree's just to build the house, and those had grown up in the years since the loggers came through, twice. The guys in my tree service told me they cut a grove of old-growth a couple years ago (the ground was too steep to recover them as logs). The trees were 6 feet at the base and so tight they used actual jack hammers to split them (all Doug Fir/Hemlock/etc). A friend has a Big-Leaf Maple that must be 5 foot across -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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Hi Don
Have a look at this album I have, it shows some of the wood I cut, this is why I have a few chain saws,one 16" electric one for in the shop, two gas chainsaws for "out there", one is a 18" poulan pro that has stood up well, but has not the power to pull a long bar chain around, so I also have a MS 361 Stihl with a 24" bar, and a 18" spare bar, the saw could handle a 36" if needed but there are few logs that I could not handle with the 24" bar, but have run into that problem with the 18" bar and that is very frustrating, however you also have to be able to handle those large pieces of wood, and that is getting harder as the wood seems to get heavier as the years go by ;-)) As for the makes of chain saws, well I think there are only 3 or 4 that have not been bought out by the big boys, like Poulan, Echo and those that where under the Electrolux control are now owned by Huskqvarna, so I would say if you want to have someone service your saw when needed you better get it where they will and are able to do so, or be ready to buy a new one every time the saw doesn't want to work. http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum30.html Have fun aand take care Leo Van Der Loo Don Murray wrote: robo hippy wrote: I got a Husky with a 24 inch bar and was told that I could put a 28 inch bar on it. I am amazed at how many times I have wanted a 36 inch bar, and am considering one some time in the future. robo hippy I'm curious to know how you guys use these huge chainsaws. Where do you go to cut wood with these? Do you have wood delivered to cut? What kind of wood are you cutting? I just finished removing some Osage from my hedges, and an Oak tree, and trimmed an Ash tree, a Chinese Elm, a Pine tree and a Black walnut tree. I harvested the Osage and some of the Chinese elm. I'm not sure if I'm going to save any of the Oak or Ash, other than as firewood. I split some of the Osage and stored it in the barn with some other wood I have. The 2 to 4 foot lengths of Osage logs I put in the barn were all that 2 men could handle easily. I did it all with a 12" chainsaw. The small chainsaw is light enough that it is easy to handle with one hand. Every time I gas and oil the saw, I touch the chain up with the file (3 strokes per tooth on the small saw, takes no time) and make sure it is properly tensioned. I did have the advantage of the Versa-lift when I trimmed these trees. I have to give the chainsaw and the Versa-lift back on Friday. I'm retiring. So, I'll be in the market for a chainsaw, too. Here's a link to some pics. http://murrayranch.com/TreeTrimming.htm Don |
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