Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

--
Dbdblocker
Planet Earth

Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

Hmmm,
Make sure battery does not die on your smart phone.

On 2011-06-28, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

On 6/28/2011 10:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.


Yeah, and they said that small digital cameras would be gone because all
cell phones have them....never happened.

Also, wrist watches are supposed to go away because cell phones have a
clock....never happened.

I just can't see myself running CorelDraw or PhotoShop on my smartphone.

Don

notbob wrote:

On 2011-06-28, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

Yep. A friend of mine has an ipad and it's nice for some things, but
even in the limited time I spent playing with it I found quite a few
times where a keyboard, mouse and larger display were really needed. I
also do the CAD/CAM and CNC control on desktop type PCs, with a 26"
monitor on my CAD/CAM PC. I certainly won't be doing any CAD/CAM work on
a tiny phone or tablet screen.

On 6/28/2011 11:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

What is an "always on Internet browser"?

On 6/28/2011 11:32 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-06-28, wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

Actually pretty accurate. Desktop sales continue to decline each year in
favor of more portable devices.

The newer smartphones do a pretty good job of panning and zooming. My
phone has an 8 megapixel camera so I am pretty sure it does photos and
video (it also does stuff like scanning barcodes and has software that
allows me to take a picture of a document and convert it into a PDF and
send it via its full featured email client if I want), I can certainly
do spreadsheets and I have no idea what cam/cam is.

And I do use the wireless hotspot for my tablet notebook.

Cellphone providers are becoming Drug Pushers.
They get you hooked on Smartphones, then they
start raising Data use pricing.

Dbdblocker wrote:

Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

I take it you have not seen the videos MS released on Windows 8 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I

On 2011-06-28, George wrote:
Desktop sales continue to decline

"Desktop sales continue to decline" != "on the way out"

nb

On 6/28/2011 10:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a
larger screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill
computer desk sales. Works for me.


You just showed us you don't know a whole heck of a lot about computers.

Hint: smart phones and tablets are designed for the consumption of
content. Desktop pcs are used to create content. Bandwidth and
consumption limits are also constraints that affect mobile computing
to a greater degree.

Mobile computing doesn't supplant desktop computing. What it's doing
is expanding the computer market.

On 6/28/2011 11:54 AM, George wrote:
On 6/28/2011 11:32 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-06-28, wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

Actually pretty accurate. Desktop sales continue to decline each year
in favor of more portable devices.

And the reason is because the desktop market has reached saturation.
More than 75% of the population owns one (or more) already. So instead
of buying another one, they are buying a mobile device. For most
people, it's not replacing their desktop, it's being used in addition
to their desktop.

George wrote:

....


Actually pretty accurate. Desktop sales continue to decline each year in
favor of more portable devices.


Which are ok for either req'd portability and/or the small viewpoint
few-minute task...


The newer smartphones do a pretty good job of panning and zooming. My
phone has an 8 megapixel camera so I am pretty sure it does photos and
video (it also does stuff like scanning barcodes and has software that
allows me to take a picture of a document and convert it into a PDF and
send it via its full featured email client if I want), I can certainly
do spreadsheets and I have no idea what cam/cam is.


But panning and zooming is _very_ time-consuming for _real_ work of any
great magnitude. And the input devices for manual interaction are, to
coin a phrase, "pathetic" simply owing to the size factor.

The workstation isn't going away; simply the number of alternates for
other purposes is going up. I'd wager a fair amount of any decline in
sales is tied to economic conditions more than the form factor for the
market wherein workstations are important.

There are simply different types of work being done on the different
platforms and I don't see that the large scale work is going to go away
but the more or less trivial application has always outclassed the
"power user" in sheer numbers and will continue to do so.

But as another poster notes, it's a far different thing to say that
other markets grow than that the whole workstation market is going away


And I do use the wireless hotspot for my tablet notebook.

imo, $0.02, etc., etc., etc., ...

--

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:39:05 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote Re Computers on the way out:

Yep. A friend of mine has an ipad and it's nice for some things, but
even in the limited time I spent playing with it I found quite a few
times where a keyboard, mouse and larger display were really needed.

+1 on that. My experience exactly.
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

"Dbdblocker" wrote in message
.com...
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The smartphone
with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a tablet to connect
to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger screen. Portable,
mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk sales. Works for me.

--
Dbdblocker
Planet Earth

Stupid is as stupid does, Db.

Steve

On 6/28/2011 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-06-28, wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

I agree. it's like comparing a mac-in-toy to a pc.


--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On 6/28/2011 11:14 AM, IGot2P wrote:
On 6/28/2011 10:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.


Yeah, and they said that small digital cameras would be gone because all
cell phones have them....never happened.

Also, wrist watches are supposed to go away because cell phones have a
clock....never happened.

I just can't see myself running CorelDraw or PhotoShop on my smartphone.

Don


LOL! and i can't even see my self having a cell phone. Much less a
smart one.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On 6/28/2011 5:35 PM, A. Baum wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:08:25 -0400, Dbdblocker wrote:

Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

You'll not experience the actual computing power of a desktop in a tablet
or smartphone for a good while to come. They couldn't touch this 4 ghz
quad core AMD/Asus combo with 8 GB ram, NVidia CUDA support and 2
terabytes of SATA 3 storage. Oh, forgot the 32" HD monitor.

Nor can most people afford the no-longer-unlimited cell phone data
plans, and there are vast parts of the country where cell phones barely
work, if at all, for voice calls, much less a high speed data connection.

I think all these writers predicting the end of last-decade technology
have never been to fly-over country. Desktops and laptops, and hard
cable internet connections, will be with us for the next couple of
decades, unless somebody invents a new way to blanket the country with
wireless signal.

--
aem sends...

On 6/28/2011 11:32 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-06-28, wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

All those things will be in the cloud. 10 inch tab not big enough? They
will get bigger.

On 6/28/2011 1:21 PM, Hell Toupee wrote:
On 6/28/2011 10:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a
larger screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill
computer desk sales. Works for me.


You just showed us you don't know a whole heck of a lot about computers.

Hint: smart phones and tablets are designed for the consumption of
content. Desktop pcs are used to create content. Bandwidth and
consumption limits are also constraints that affect mobile computing to
a greater degree.

Mobile computing doesn't supplant desktop computing. What it's doing is
expanding the computer market.

There are some laptops that have big enough screens and keyboards that I
could see one as a desktop replacement but it would have to be a quite
fast and powerful laptop for me. Besides, I'm as blind as a bat and
absolutely have to have a big screen monitor or I can't do anything. As
far as a cellphone goes, I have the simplest cellphone I could get
because I just want a freaking phone that makes phone calls, nothing
else. :-)

TDD

On 6/28/2011 5:19 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:35:16 +0000 (UTC), "A. Baum"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:08:25 -0400, Dbdblocker wrote:

Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

You'll not experience the actual computing power of a desktop in a tablet
or smartphone for a good while to come. They couldn't touch this 4 ghz
quad core AMD/Asus combo with 8 GB ram, NVidia CUDA support and 2
terabytes of SATA 3 storage. Oh, forgot the 32" HD monitor.

Is that thing water cooled and over clocked :-/


No, that water cooling is reserved for the real processors. Intel.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

"Steve Barker" wrote

LOL! and i can't even see my self having a cell phone. Much less a smart
one.

--
Steve Barker

Like Gene Simmons, I refuse to have ANYTHING around that's smarter than
................ ME!

Steve ;-)

Heart surgery pending?
www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

On 6/28/2011 5:27 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 6/28/2011 5:35 PM, A. Baum wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:08:25 -0400, Dbdblocker wrote:

Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.

You'll not experience the actual computing power of a desktop in a tablet
or smartphone for a good while to come. They couldn't touch this 4 ghz
quad core AMD/Asus combo with 8 GB ram, NVidia CUDA support and 2
terabytes of SATA 3 storage. Oh, forgot the 32" HD monitor.

Nor can most people afford the no-longer-unlimited cell phone data
plans, and there are vast parts of the country where cell phones barely
work, if at all, for voice calls, much less a high speed data connection.

I think all these writers predicting the end of last-decade technology
have never been to fly-over country. Desktops and laptops, and hard
cable internet connections, will be with us for the next couple of
decades, unless somebody invents a new way to blanket the country with
wireless signal.


Subspace communications planet to planet. I already know some people who
seem to be from outer space. ^_^

TDD

Congoleum Breckenridge wrote in
:

Cellphone providers are becoming Drug Pushers.
They get you hooked on Smartphones, then they
start raising Data use pricing.


I wish someone would bring back the old time phonebooth;the REAL old ones
where you could sit down,close the door,and talk without others able to
listen in. then we would not have to hear THEM yammer,and they would not be
walking around not looking where they're going.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On 2011-06-28, Dbdblocker wrote:

All those things will be in the cloud.

Another fantasy scam!!

I won't even put my real name on the internet, let alone important
data. In case you haven't been paying attention, hackers are hacking
everything in sight, including govt security agencies! Putting
information on the cloud is a fool's game.

10 inch tab not big enough? They will get bigger.

Yeah, like I'm gonna hump around a 19" cellphone/pad.

nb

--
vi ...the root of evil

On 2011-06-28, Jim Yanik wrote:

I wish someone would bring back the old time phonebooth;the REAL old ones
where you could sit down,close the door,and talk without others able to
listen in.

Better yet, I wish it were legal to take 'em out with a small blowpipe
firing darts dipped in a powerful, yet harmless, sleeping potion.

"Well, I was jes talking to SueEllen and she said yakyakyak..... erk!!
snore"

nb

On 2011-06-28, A. Baum wrote:

Air cooled 3.2 ghz quad. O'clocked to 4 ghz per core = 16 ghz.
Asus M4A87T-E mobo, the o'clocker's choice. Core and DDR3 3200 sync
among other voltage/freq/CAS tweaks make it the clocker's dream.

Linux OS, Never a problem, hard freeze, unexpected reboot etc.
I do a lot of video mastering and building to DVD and Blu ray.
I breeze through compilations and transcoding at 13x realtime
or more depending on the project. Without hardware support and relying
upon software codecs what takes now 30 minutes to finish would take
several hours on an i5 Intel based Windoze box.

Thanks! I took notes.

nb

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:10:53 -0700, Oren wrote:



A "real processor" (Intel) uses mineral oil for coolant :-/

_Building a Mineral Oil Cooled PC _

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80eUcUVrmw

That's a good one. I'll give it to my son, who's an overclocker.
He uses dry ice or liquid nitrogen, so this will give him a laugh.

--Vic

On 2011-06-28, A. Baum wrote:

Air cooled 3.2 ghz quad. O'clocked to 4 ghz per core = 16 ghz.
Asus M4A87T-E mobo, the o'clocker's choice. Core and DDR3 3200 sync
among other voltage/freq/CAS tweaks make it the clocker's dream.

Linux OS, Never a problem, hard freeze, unexpected reboot etc.

A, would appreciate some more tech spec info.

Been a long time since I overclocked anything and am way outta date.
If it's linux compatible, count me interested. . At least give me a
direction fer AMD info. Looking at the M4A87T line of mobos, now.

nb

--
vi ...the root of evil

On 06/28/2011 11:08 AM, Dbdblocker wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales. Works for me.



Internet browser that is always on? LOL - PC's have had that for a
*very* long time. Not to mention a screen that is actually visible for
those beyond kiddie/teenage vision, keyboard and mouse to type/browse
with and enough horsepower to actually do some work.

You listen to way too much hype dude. Bet your calloused thumbs are the
size of Texas.

LMAO,
John

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:08:25 -0400, Dbdblocker
wrote:

Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out. The
smartphone with it's always on internet browser is coming in. Use a
tablet to connect to your smartphone's own hotspot if you want a larger
screen. Portable, mobile use anywhere. Should also kill computer desk
sales.

I can' make you a great deal on a beautiful computer desk. It has 4
legs.

Works for me.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:54:19 -0400, George
wrote:

On 6/28/2011 11:32 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-06-28, wrote:
Looks like desktop and laptop computers are on the way out.

Nonsense.

Can't do graphics, photo, cam/cam, spreadsheets, and a dozen other
things on a cellphone or even a tablet. Yes, full desktops boxes will
lose popularity for many purposes and no doubt get smaller in size,
but will never be "on the way out", any more than TV's. Another
thing. I'll never use a cellphone or tablet for anything I need to
view. I'm a geezer and can't see something that small fer dammit, and
EVERYONE'S eyes get worse with age and EVERYONE ages.

nb

Actually pretty accurate. Desktop sales continue to decline each year in
favor of more portable devices.

That's partly because everyone has a computer now, and many have no
need for a better one.

About 20 or 30 years ago, the most sold power tool was a sabre saw,
because everyone who used tools already had an electric drill.

The newer smartphones do a pretty good job of panning and zooming. My
phone has an 8 megapixel camera so I am pretty sure it does photos and
video (it also does stuff like scanning barcodes and has software that
allows me to take a picture of a document and convert it into a PDF and
send it via its full featured email client if I want), I can certainly
do spreadsheets and I have no idea what cam/cam is.

And I do use the wireless hotspot for my tablet notebook.

On 6/28/2011 5:58 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Steve wrote

LOL! and i can't even see my self having a cell phone. Much less a smart
one.

--
Steve Barker

Like Gene Simmons, I refuse to have ANYTHING around that's smarter than
............... ME!

Steve ;-)

Heart surgery pending?
www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide



Na, i just don't need one. Bad enough having a land line. Ever notice
that every time a phone rings, someone WANTS something?


--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:23:31 -0500, dpb wrote:

George wrote:

...


Actually pretty accurate. Desktop sales continue to decline each year in
favor of more portable devices.


Which are ok for either req'd portability and/or the small viewpoint
few-minute task...


The newer smartphones do a pretty good job of panning and zooming. My
phone has an 8 megapixel camera so I am pretty sure it does photos and
video (it also does stuff like scanning barcodes and has software that
allows me to take a picture of a document and convert it into a PDF and
send it via its full featured email client if I want), I can certainly
do spreadsheets and I have no idea what cam/cam is.


But panning and zooming is _very_ time-consuming for _real_ work of any
great magnitude.

This is even why, as good as computer maps are, if I have a paper map,
it's better because I can pan and zoom in a centisecond.

And the input devices for manual interaction are, to
coin a phrase, "pathetic" simply owing to the size factor.

The workstation isn't going away; simply the number of alternates for
other purposes is going up. I'd wager a fair amount of any decline in
sales is tied to economic conditions more than the form factor for the
market wherein workstations are important.

There are simply different types of work being done on the different
platforms and I don't see that the large scale work is going to go away
but the more or less trivial application has always outclassed the
"power user" in sheer numbers and will continue to do so.

But as another poster notes, it's a far different thing to say that
other markets grow than that the whole workstation market is going away


And I do use the wireless hotspot for my tablet notebook.

imo, $0.02, etc., etc., etc., ...

"mm" wrote
That's partly because everyone has a computer now, and many have no
need for a better one.


I started with an 8088 computer with two floppy drives, no hard drive. I
bough new ever second generation and each was a big improvement. Faster,
better software, new gadgets like a color monitor, then a mouse, 300 baud
modem, etc. What I have today is as fast as I can use, the internet is fast
enough for video, my monitor is a nice flat screen. New computers have only
a small increment of improvement for home and light business use. Unless it
breaks, I won't ever buy a new one just for more features and speed.

Four months ago I needed a new phone so I got a smart phone. It is handy,
but it does not replace my desktop computer. It does have one nice feature
though. I can take it into the bathroom and instead of a magazine, I can
read the news on the phone.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:11:18 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


"mm" wrote
That's partly because everyone has a computer now, and many have no
need for a better one.


I started with an 8088 computer with two floppy drives, no hard drive. I
bough new ever second generation and each was a big improvement. Faster,
better software, new gadgets like a color monitor, then a mouse, 300 baud
modem, etc. What I have today is as fast as I can use, the internet is fast
enough for video, my monitor is a nice flat screen. New computers have only
a small increment of improvement for home and light business use. Unless it
breaks, I won't ever buy a new one just for more features and speed.

Four months ago I needed a new phone so I got a smart phone. It is handy,
but it does not replace my desktop computer. It does have one nice feature
though. I can take it into the bathroom and instead of a magazine, I can
read the news on the phone.

Doesn't the shower get it wet? Wait a sec, didn't the shower get the
magazine wet too?

"Steve Barker" wrote

Na, i just don't need one. Bad enough having a land line. Ever notice
that every time a phone rings, someone WANTS something?

97.5% of my incoming calls are from SWMBO. I could very easily do without a
cell phone, and I am constantly being reminded of putting it in my pocket.
I don't mind for the important stuff, but when it is to just .......... what
you doing? how's it going? stuff, sorry, I'm busy. Go to voicemail.

I see people with sad sorry lives walking up and down the aisles at the
market blabbing every detail of their sad sorry lives LOUDLY over the phone.
Hell, just hook them up the PA system.

Sheesh.

Steve

"notbob" wrote

Yeah, like I'm gonna hump around a 19" cellphone/pad.

Wouldn't that be called a laptop? Or a MaxiPad?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Honey, where's my MaxiPad?

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2011-06-28, Jim Yanik wrote:

I wish someone would bring back the old time phonebooth;the REAL old ones
where you could sit down,close the door,and talk without others able to
listen in.

Better yet, I wish it were legal to take 'em out with a small blowpipe
firing darts dipped in a powerful, yet harmless, sleeping potion.

"Well, I was jes talking to SueEllen and she said yakyakyak..... erk!!
snore"

nb

They DO make cell phone jammers. Not for sale in the US, but available
overseas, and guess what? They ship to the US! Don't like some jerk
talking on his cell at a quiet place, or during church? Imagine, going a
whole dinner, or church service, or your progeny's piano recital without a
single cell call.

ZAP!

I want one.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

On 2011-06-29, Steve B wrote:

I want one.

Wouldn't we all! Unfortunately:

"Anyone caught manufacturing, selling, owning, or using a jammer in
the U.S. is punishable by an $11,000 fine and up to a year in prison
for each offense."

Have a good attorney on retainer.

nb